The Way Of The Ramapough

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  • @phunkyfeelone4855
    @phunkyfeelone4855 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for creating and sharing this video. I found out my father's maternal ancestors are part of the tribe. The last time I was in Jersey I was able to enjoy the mountain and small piece of tribal land. My direct lineage is from David & Christiana Degroat who moved to Essex County in the early 1800s. Stay blessed everyone ❤💛🖤💚

  • @colino5056
    @colino5056 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the BEST videos I have ever watched PERIOD.

  • @sunnt6137
    @sunnt6137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm learning so much I thank you for this!! My father passed last year and I most recently found out he was of Ramapough Lenape Indian blood. He was from Hackensack NJ. Our last names our Thompson, Mann and Defreese but mostly Thompson and Mann. Watching videos and educating myself on my heritage makes me feel closer to my dad but also gives me true purpose. Thankyou again!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @njhighlandscoalition
      @njhighlandscoalition  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If this production reached you at the level you described, that alone has made our efforts worthy of every frame.

    • @mzjackibaby
      @mzjackibaby ปีที่แล้ว

      My family also derives of Defreese and Mann on my father’s side ❤

  • @fjdubya5726
    @fjdubya5726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I grew up there and it will ALWAYS be a part of me, even as a white dude. I have fished, talked, jammed, smoked and drank with SO many of the Ramapo people. I know who they are and I will never forget.

  • @wisediscernment2403
    @wisediscernment2403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow something so profound yet so simple about the native Americans wisdom.

  • @AvitalShtap
    @AvitalShtap ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was so fascinating, philosophical, and helpful. It was a pleasure to see Chief Mann at yesterday's event in Liberty Park and I am so glad to have watched this this morning. I look forward to Indigenous Americans having more control of the govenment and finally restoring balance because I am understanding that Europeans and their descendants clearly can't know and love a land the same way as those who have tended to it for thousands of years. Thank you so much for sharing and making this publicly available.

  • @christopherredcloud1610
    @christopherredcloud1610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My grandfather was Norman vandunk Sr, part of the turtle clan of the ramapough lenape nation, im currently in the process of getting my tribal membership. Love our heritage and want to help be apart as much as I can

  • @jbbasralian
    @jbbasralian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Beautifully expressed by Chief Mann. Hear him.

  • @ayannadefreese1338
    @ayannadefreese1338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My cheif thank you for this lesson..my spirit knew!

  • @ReturntoNatureSkills
    @ReturntoNatureSkills ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this. I’m nearby to the ramapo and I am seeking to connect with anyone who cares and wants to remember these ways

  • @neoanimegirl
    @neoanimegirl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally got a chance to watch this. Great job cuz!

  • @BugzBbugin
    @BugzBbugin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am Shirley van dunk's & Thomas Milligan's grandson, and I know I am of lenape decent, but I have always wanted to know more of what was hidden from us as a people like who to speak there true tongue, and are history!

  • @SocialDocumentaryNetwork
    @SocialDocumentaryNetwork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Powerful and truthful! Thank you for telling this important history.

  • @TheJordanOliver
    @TheJordanOliver หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Learning about my roots a bit more thanks for this !
    Oliver here 💪🏻

  • @williammann9902
    @williammann9902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thank you for the knowledge.

  • @patrickhunter1761
    @patrickhunter1761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God’s first peoples of the world. May our spirits rise together in truth.

  • @anulacourtistownboard
    @anulacourtistownboard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this video and these lessons..

  • @Robbie12GS
    @Robbie12GS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the history lesson!

  • @LuciaBeans
    @LuciaBeans ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a white descendant of a Lanape woman who was traded for land in Pennsylvania. I am turning 50 this year and trying to learn about and recover the honor and story of my native ancestor whose story has been covered up by white culture domination. I have always been the "black sheep" of my family, struggling against the injustice of this Patriarchy. I feel my ancestor living inside my beating heart. I want to thank you, from my heart, for speaking and sharing. Wanishi.

  • @JoslynSmith-mq2pu
    @JoslynSmith-mq2pu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello I'm trying find my ancestors from my Great grand mother. I feelna great yearning that I belong

  • @JoslynSmith-mq2pu
    @JoslynSmith-mq2pu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chief Man i learn so much however i wish i new but i feel that im from youur tribe

  • @revdele
    @revdele 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Aho!
    If you know the beginning well, the end will not trouble you

  • @Leppres
    @Leppres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man definitely has the Heart of a Chief. I’m not Native American, however I believe in a Creator!! Mine is The Lord my God. Chief Mann put us all under the same moral compass of right and wrong wether you call him Creator, GOD

    • @Leppres
      @Leppres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We all do our best to walk the Earth and be thankful for the Garden we’re given to tend.

  • @brianferris1233
    @brianferris1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for posting 👍

  • @davehughes53
    @davehughes53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very , very knowledgeable man. One of my greatest friends and coworker is Johnny Degroat, I’m sure you know him and his family. Great dude!!

    • @Brandon68plus1
      @Brandon68plus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is he related to Harlan Degroat?

  • @lindareinsmith9005
    @lindareinsmith9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing. Thank you for Truth.

  • @comradebanana129
    @comradebanana129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Preach!

  • @nebulus111-0-
    @nebulus111-0- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please forgive my intrusion dearest
    ☆🌟Vincent🌟☆ may I praise your wonderful wisdom and wishes for our world 🌎, it is true that which you say, it is beyond any easy explanation that some people in our society believe somehow that they are born more equal than others...🌟🫂🌟
    Live Life and Love Life ❣️ 🫂 ❣️
    Permit me please in my own way thousands of miles from where you are to "whisper" your great name in sacred places 💫🙏💫
    Wonderful & Beautiful day's ahead Y'all

  • @scoutsbsatroop2802
    @scoutsbsatroop2802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Truth

  • @binther2006
    @binther2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    🙏🏽🦅💨

  • @KnittingMama0
    @KnittingMama0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ❤️

  • @toobeast5485
    @toobeast5485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amen Brother! National Recognition will come, keep the pressure up. Educate us in our schools, push local school systems to educate us on our states history (northern NJ schools).

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully, national recognition never occurs. You're culturally appropriating oppressive racists.

  • @evelynchase6985
    @evelynchase6985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My People

  • @RealJeremias
    @RealJeremias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i found out two years ago when I was 23, that I had Lenape, Nanticoke, Mistawokett, and Shinnecock ancestry. Life changed a lot for me since, its tough

  • @jamesjohnson3043
    @jamesjohnson3043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you treat outsiders who accidentally hike on to your land?

    • @elliottruga
      @elliottruga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will ask Chief Mann to respond to the several questions in the channel directed to him. But in advance of that I can tell you that the Clan owns very little beyond individual homesites. But where and when you might hike across lands of which they have a particular connection, whether by their tradition or by a contemporary ownership stake, if you are respectful of any privacy concerns and of the natural and spiritual values of the landscape, you would be welcomed.

  • @bunnysight
    @bunnysight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤💔❤️

  • @libertine40
    @libertine40 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha Ho to my boy Tony Standing Hawk! Straight up Ramapough from Ramapo, NJ! They treat our deeply melanated youth horrobly in Raritan county. So many of us are being further disenfranchised by our own European-mixed relatives (and many straight European; whose ancestors bought membership from USA, Inc) on these tribal councils playing the colonizers' game of ray-ce. We are Aboriginal Turtle Islanders not 'African' American. It's time to awaken from the American Dreaming and grow up.
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  • @thickbrianq
    @thickbrianq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you guys federally recognized?

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're not. They're LARPers. They used to identify as Tuscarora before then Unami Lenape, and now Munsee Lenape lmao.

  • @davehughes53
    @davehughes53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree on one thing. “You don’t have to learn to be a human being.” This is untrue, humans have to learn, emulate and be taught right from wrong. Many people grow up without love, positivity/ teachings, empathy etc... as an example , the Bible was created as a guide to humans on how they should live their life. Without the Bible as a manual on life , the world would be in more chaos then it is currently. The Bible is a guide and example to follow as parents don’t always do a good job instilling how to be a good human being

    • @elliottruga
      @elliottruga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was born a human being, I didn’t have to be taught how to be one. I don’t have enough knowledge to prove it but I have faith that people are for the most part naturally good, and they must be taught to be hateful. An original instruction includes respecting those who don’t agree with you, so bless you brother

    • @marigoldpluss
      @marigoldpluss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @davehughes53 : I am in my 70s and have seen some things.. I agree with you and believe that although born that way that people need to be taught what being a human ( humane ) is. Peace

  • @TerryMcKennaFineArt
    @TerryMcKennaFineArt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a disappointing video, but it disappoints as much of the current writing on the people who lived in the Ramapo region does. It would help to understand what elements of the old Lenape culture existed over the last 2 centuries. So did words survive? Rituals survive? I wish we knew more. Historically there have been isolated communities of mixtures of runaways slaves, apprentices and native peoples. Melungeons are an example. That NJ recognizes the group as a tribe may be helpful but it is not enough. And this video is a failure because it does not address the issue. It takes the chief at face value.

    • @njhighlandscoalition
      @njhighlandscoalition  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A failure because it whet your appetite for more information? I should fail that often! The lack of federal recognition is a problem, one that the Chief, with our and others' support, is a priority with action being taken. There should not be any implication here that NJ recognition alone is acceptable. In fact, there is such an inventory of abuse, genocide, marginalization, decimation, that to address them all over the course of the Tribe's history since first contact, it would easily overwhelm most viewers. This film is meant as an introduction to the majority of New Jerseyans who know nothing about its indigenous people.

    • @TerryMcKennaFineArt
      @TerryMcKennaFineArt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@njhighlandscoalition as a person who does videos, I suggest that this content was rambling and perhaps too long for what it accomplished. In any case, I am looking for other sources - similar to what is available for descendents of the Jews of Spain who converted to Catholicism but held on to some believes/practices that were leftovers from Judaism. So what stories, remnants etc were passed on. I also am curious about conceptually how a tribe is established under US law. Of course the Lenape were pushed out under colonial law..

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're of European (mainly Dutch) and Black descent. They have nothing to do with Lenapes. They preciously claimed to be Unami Lenape and Tuscarora before that. Now they're claiming to be Munsee Lenape cause they found out that Munsees are native to their land. Any traditions they celebrate were done cause of learning it via Google, not cause of any cultural continuity. Most self-identified "Native Americans" of the East Coast are LARPers (and this is especially true for those in the New York Metro area), the real ones mainly live in Oklahoma and Wisconsin nowadays. There's also some Munsee Lenape people who retained their language living in Ontario.

    • @elliottruga
      @elliottruga ปีที่แล้ว

      The archaeologist Ed Lenik, in his book, The Ramapo Mountain People, through his research was able to prove the direct link between those who identify today as the Ramapough Luunape , and live in the Ramapo Mountains between NJ and NY, are in fact, the descendant of the Munsee speaking Native Americans who inhabited the region prior to first contact. The hostility of the displaced Lenape living in Oklahoma and elsewhere is curious, unfortunate and self-serving.

    • @TerryMcKennaFineArt
      @TerryMcKennaFineArt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliottruga I think the group in OK e al have not made an issue about the NJ folks as having some Indian genes but rather that they did not retain a tribal structure. In any case the Federal govt does not recognize them so that creates a problem in terms of rights.