Learning Words - 100 Words a Day?

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    How fast can we learn words? What does knowing a word mean? Here is my blog post on this subject: blog.thelinguis...
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    Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here. I posted a post on my Blog The Linguist on Language (I’ll try to remember to leave a link here) where I talked about whether we can learn 100 words a day. I think since I started Czech I have learned more than 100 words a day. Maybe 150 words a day, I don’t know. I describe all these numbers on my blog post. Basically, LingQ says that I know 25,000 words, but that includes non-words, numbers and names. How many of those there are I don’t know, maybe 10%. Plus, I have saved about 20,000 links, which includes a number of phrases.
    Of the words that I have saved I don’t know how many I know, but I think I know maybe a third of them. So 25-28,000 words in there and then I said that and you’ll see this all on the exchange on my blog. Various people have challenged different aspects of this. Stefan from Denmark said, well yeah, that’s true in an inflected language like Czech where a noun might have six or seven different forms, verbs have different forms. In English there are fewer forms. I mean we do have ‘I go’, but we have ‘he goes’, ‘you go’, ‘we go’, ‘went’ and ‘gone’, so we have a few forms of the verbs. Probably verbs we have as many forms as the Czechs have, but in nouns we just have the singular and the plural and the Czechs might have six or seven. So if I have, theoretically, 25-28,000 words in Czech, what is that equivalent to in English?
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    Timelines:
    0:20 How many Czech words I have learned.
    1:15 Number of words vary depending on a language.
    3:29 Do you only know a word when you can use it?
    4:40 My first goal is comprehension.
    5:18 Even in English I know more words passively then use actively.
    7:23 Nailing all words down is not realistic.
    8:26 Passive vocabulary grows incidentally.
    9:34 Focus on passive vocabulary and active one will come.
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  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

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    • @רונהלוי-ה1ז
      @רונהלוי-ה1ז 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi thanks for the tips I am currently learning Spanish and I got into what lingQ recommended but it translates into English is it possible to choose another language? How do you do that? Thank you

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    1) Make sure you have a large vocabulary. The words you don't understand may be important. Read more. Read novels, not just short articles.
    2) Write. Keep a diary. Use new words and phrases when you write.
    3) Learn some handy key phrases to use in conversation.
    4) If you are a LingQ member, save a lot of key phrases and then review them in flash cards, with your native language on the front, and the English on the back.
    5) Don't worry and keep speaking. You will improve.

    • @pathologicpicnic
      @pathologicpicnic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Native language in the front? You mean target language on the front?

    • @michaelvaguet3655
      @michaelvaguet3655 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      many say you have to forget your language to learn the new one and here, you say use your own language, I am lost .....

    • @Thelinguist
      @Thelinguist  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need your own language. You learn new things based on having a point of reference, languages you know.@@michaelvaguet3655

    • @michaelvaguet3655
      @michaelvaguet3655 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      U take anyone English, he says we have to learn the way babies learn …. So I don’t know I’m lost and frustrated!

    • @majingurkan2110
      @majingurkan2110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelvaguet3655 that makes absolutely no sense since there are peoples who know over 20 languages. Dont even think about trying to forget your native language lmao this is just ridiculous

  • @sleslie23
    @sleslie23 10 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Even in our native languages, passive vocabulary is much larger than active vocabulary.

    • @Crashandburn999
      @Crashandburn999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhh you sure about that?

    • @michaelshort2388
      @michaelshort2388 7 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Yep. I am a native English speaker and there are words which I never myself, but if I see them written I will understand their meaning. There's also a lot of words in English that I have no idea what they mean, simply because I rarely come across them and have no need to know them.

    • @trevorsharp460
      @trevorsharp460 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Michael Short there are studies based on this that I'm a tad too lazy to look up right meow. I think it might be 10,000-20,000 and like 30,000 words passively

    • @gallenfier
      @gallenfier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Acquitted of all charges, Double-Jeopardy ruled to be at play."

    • @avradio0b
      @avradio0b ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crashandburn999 Oh yeah. Especially in a language like english which has a lot of "combined" words (e.g., 'sunbathing' = sun + bathe) that make it easy for a native speaker to infer meaning the first time they see the word.

  • @Schurfable
    @Schurfable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Hearing you say that forgetting is common is a lot more motivating than hearing about those who supposedly remember everything.
    I'm getting tired of these 'secrets' which only seems to work for those who share those 'secrets'

    • @craigs6045
      @craigs6045 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There are no secrets, only hard work. Work. Work.

  • @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned
    @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned 10 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Here's a tip. Take a song you like, get the lyrics, learn all the words in it, then go listen to it and sing along.

    • @BlueCatSW9
      @BlueCatSW9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like using that technique for Korean. Once you’ve learn enough you can then focus on pronunciation (with the right song), which will be my first kind of output for the language.

  • @RedfieldRant
    @RedfieldRant 10 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    For my German exam I had to learn 300 words a week.
    A technique I used was to associate the word with an image, not the translation into English. For example: I would attach an image of a bed with the word 'bett' and know bett as what it looks like, not the English word 'bed'

    • @Mcwsmurf1
      @Mcwsmurf1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Du bist stimmt aber bett ist ein bisschen einfach ja?

    • @Octopussyist
      @Octopussyist 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** Good for you - but where would you put 50 new pieces each day?

    • @tauceti8341
      @tauceti8341 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'd like to add on that and say when you don't know a word your studying for go on google.(the nation goes here) i.e. google.de (for germany) select the image tab then type in the word to get an image for it. It's helped my recall immensely.

    • @CountryBoyGay
      @CountryBoyGay 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mcwsmurf1
      May i correct you ;P?
      "Du hast recht, aber Bett ist ein bisschen einfach, oder / nicht / oder nicht?"

    • @Mcwsmurf1
      @Mcwsmurf1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CountryBoyGay thanks :)

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Language learning is not a sport and not a competition. Language learning is personal. We learn for our own goals. The tests are relevant only for those who want or need to be tested. I speak 12 languages, and have only ever been tested in 2 of them.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    @LearningFrenchNow To me fluent just means comfortable, able to converse on a variety of subjects.
    Advanced means more, an ability to write and speak almost without errors, almost like a native.
    I am Advanced in French, Japanese, Mandarin, High Intermediate in Spanish , Swedish and German, Intermediate in Italian, Portuguese, Cantonese, Portuguese and Russian. High beginner, in Czech, (but able to read a lot), and high beginner in Korean.
    But I can improve!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    People who have learned many words by listening and reading don't speak like that. They speak well. Students of French in Canada's school system are usually unable to even sound like Tarzan in French after ten years in the system.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is a great measure IMHO. It mostly measures your reading activity, since you only count as "known", words that you have met and not saved for review. The more you read the more you learn. Furthermore, I often save for review many forms of the same root word. Different forms have different functions. For example, act, actually, active, inactive, activity, react, reactive, action, activate etc. are part of the same root word. If you know one, you don't you know them all.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was only ever tested in French and Mandarin, almost 50 years ago. Since then I have learned to use 9 more foreign languages, without tests, and am working on two more. I have no need for tests.
    Karate and language learning? Most sports do not have levels or belts. People just play them and enjoy, like languages.
    What do you mean by words I am "supposed to use?"
    Don't understand test obsession unless you need them for a job or to get into a school.

    • @nikkijubilant
      @nikkijubilant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Steve for showing that tests are artificial. I agree with you, tests for language level are only useful for work or school placement, such as, what class do we slot you in?

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    active words you can use, passive you understand

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @CorinWright I doubt if that is the case. Of course, using the words helps you remember them. it is always a tug of war between reading more to acquire more words, or starting to use them to help you remember them. All languages seem hard to to understand at first and gradually become clearer.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @usenetposts I have spent about an hour or two a day, mostly reading and listening. Words are learned mostly from context, incidentally, not from any deliberate word review effort.

  • @Vondur
    @Vondur 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I first started using LingQ I was really strict about which words I'd click as "known." After a while I started using Steve's more lenient method of clicking words that I recognize in a certain context. I find that this actually helps me to learn the words because when I see that I "know" it in LingQ it gives me a little boost of reassurance that the word actually is what I think it is.

  • @adamschultz3799
    @adamschultz3799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I realize this is 8 years later, but I think it's so funny how your videos keep on being recommended exactly as I need them! I am using LinQ to supplement my Chinese and this is helpful advice that I don't have to get so hung up on a word. Learn it and move on. If you see this, thanks a million!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @4RleF Keep reading and listening. You cannot use them all, and you are going to forget some. Don't worry about it.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just read and listen a lot, and words that I need to learn just naturally repeat themselves. I have no idea how often I need to see a word to remember it. This depends on the word itself and many other factors.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which language to study is up to you. Try LingQ. There are 20 languages there.

  • @addcandelaria4935
    @addcandelaria4935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for this video, Mr. Kaufmann! I find that this is actually what's happening with my language learning journey right now. I used to deliberately learn the words and, often, I will not move on until I have learned or understood every single one in the article or dialogue. But it was too difficult, I progressed very slowly and very few words were actually retained in my brain. Several months later, due to lack of time, I decided to just go and take whatever I can of the journey. Meaning, I read stuff when I could, listened to the language as much as I could through podcasts, movies and songs because I just didn't have the time anymore to actually dedicate several hours in a day to sit down and focus on studying the language. In truth, I find that I do learn more new words this way. I can't remember how many times I have come across the word "설명" but it never stuck until I heard it in a drama and instantly, it's a new word that I now know.
    Anyway, I just wanted to stress the importance of "passive learning". Not to say that it can ever replace "active learning", but it's a great big help.

  • @caldoaguado7476
    @caldoaguado7476 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The more I watch your videos, the more I find myself agreeing with your views on learning languages. Thank you for sharing your ideas!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, after learning Russian with its Cyrillic alphabet, I am really enjoying Czech with its Latin alphabet. The tones are important but I just meant that it is hard to try to nail them in the beginning. Like most things, after enough exposure it will be easier. You need to get a feel for the rhythm, and as difficult as it seems, you will get better. Focus on listening, not speaking or pronouncing, at least for a long time. Then when you start speaking everything, including tones, will be easier.

  • @sergiovramos
    @sergiovramos 11 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I learned about 450 words of french in two days, but I still needed to make a review because after a few hours I'd forget them. And I could tell all of them for a while, and once again, they would escape...So It's possible to learn more than 100 words, but you'll have to refresh them. As you keep doing this, learning more words gets harder because you'll have 200 more words every day to revise.

    • @Antaressum
      @Antaressum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      450 is a bunch, most people can't even dream of learning that many words but I know is possible... however you still have to revise them and learn them in context, otherwise you'll have a vague understanding of their meaning and all the possible ways they can be used.
      Anyway, learning that many words is possible and is really accelerates your learning process.

    • @catcat-jx2bz
      @catcat-jx2bz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I learned 10000 words a day

    • @MG-ln1yw
      @MG-ln1yw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I learned to talk Mandarin fluently backwards in 1 day.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Neuroneos I certainly cannot use them. If you listen to my video and read my blog post you will see that I can only recognize them in context. Most of them are learned incidentally through the massive reading and listening that I do. You do not learn words one day and use them, or even recognize them the next day. It is a gradual process of getting used to words. You do not know when they will stick.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Neuroneos I first learn by reading (and LingQing) and most of the incidental words come from reading I think. I reinforce my sense of them by listening. You have to notice the words here and there for them to stick.

  • @pauostosq
    @pauostosq 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All your videos are terrific. I'm a language learner and your advices and comments have helped me a lot. Thanks!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for commenting.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I developed my language learning techniques while learning Mandarin. Listen, and read, lots. Find things that interest you. Put in the time to learn the characters, and don't worry too much about the tones, they will come.

  • @BohemianCocoNat
    @BohemianCocoNat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Steve, you are so easy to listen to. I have not heard of Lingq until finding your channel last night. Seeing how much you work i think your website deserves some Love. hopefully i will be able to further my chinese and maybe motivate my partner to study Czech more :) both tricky languages in their own right. Thanks again for the pep talks ;) I enjoy them a lot and always feel better about one thing or another once im done listening.

  • @GroupCaptain-LionelMandrake
    @GroupCaptain-LionelMandrake ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephen is great. Such a good person to learn from. I’m listening intently to every word he speaks.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which language and what do you mean my daily conversation? In English I would am for 8- 0,000 words. The most important thing is to enjoy the language, to listen to and read things of interest. The rest will take care of itself.

  • @zweiosterei
    @zweiosterei 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got to agree. Listening to Steve talk about language learning is delightful in itself.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @cccEngineer What is higher than advanced?My 4 best are English, French, Japanese, and Mandarin

  • @xzxjessxzx
    @xzxjessxzx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been learning Japanese for 5 weeks and I already feel this is true. I study a few words or short sentences, but not for too long, and then move onto another topic or watch some TH-cam language videos. Then I read them again a few days later and they start to feel familiar and after doing this a few times I can remember quite a lot of them now pretty well. I feel like the harder I try to force myself to remember things, the more likely I am to forget.

    • @kaisel917
      @kaisel917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hows your japanese today?

  • @bositkhonsotivoldiev
    @bositkhonsotivoldiev ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too had the idea of sticking to only 10 words a day. But now you prove this method wrong and you are right sir. I was stuck to learning only 10 words which held me back and took forever. Now, I'm gonna continue learning words without worrying about them. You literally saved my day! I love your approach and mindset when it comes to learning languages.

  • @dogodomo3998
    @dogodomo3998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If you have both the time and motivation to do so it is very achievable. I am an English teacher currently on vacation from work. I am learning +100 words a day on Memrise. 100 words is my daily goal but yesterday for example I covered 147 new words. If you convert new words into very memorable images and combine that with a spaced repetition program like anki or memrise like I'm using at the moment it becomes possible to both learn and remember a ridiculous amount of information. But, I have the time available to study for six hours a day for 5 days of the week this month. Obviously not everybody has that luxury.

    • @thewierd_thewonderful996
      @thewierd_thewonderful996 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dogodomo is memrise really very useful?

    • @dogodomo3998
      @dogodomo3998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For me it is. Using a spaced repetition program is the fastest way to learn vocabulary and retain it in your memory. A lot of people like to create decks using Anki for example. The process of creating your own cards on Anki can make the word more memorable for you. The problem I had with that was that making the cards took up more time than actually learning so I was wasting time instead of being efficient. On Memrise every deck you could want is already pre made, there are pre made decks for Anki as well of course, but the most beneficial thing for me was the fact that they have points and leader boards. Some people don't really care about that kind of thing but for my personality it allowed me to tap into my competitive side to keep me studying everyday to keep myself on top. That might sound stupid but you have to do whatever works for you. If I'm just studying for myself I am very lazy but I love to win, even if it's just meaningless points. You can also create your own pictures or whatever to aid you on Memrise like you would on Anki if some words are causing you particular trouble. What I suggest is learning how to use more powerful memory techniques like converting words and information into crazy and memorable pictures in your head. This seems to allow words to stay in your head longer than the usual graph for memory loss over time suggests. A great book I recommend reading is 'Moonwalking with Einstein'. It's about how a normal journalist trained for a year and became national memory champion. Also, 'Fluent Forever' which will teach you more or less the same techniques but geared specifically for language. It is the best book on rapid language acquisition that I have come across so far and you will learn a lot about how to study in ways that work with your brain instead of against it. Anyways, this was a long response and probably more information than you needed but hopefully I was able to provide you with some value. Best of luck in your studies :)

    • @thewierd_thewonderful996
      @thewierd_thewonderful996 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dogodomo​ thanks a lot for the response and ur valuable time☺

    • @thewierd_thewonderful996
      @thewierd_thewonderful996 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dogodomo will try memrise for sure

    • @ashleytaylor994
      @ashleytaylor994 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dogodomo how do you create image associations? For example pato means duck. Do you see the word pot and imagine it on a ducks head?

  • @pedroochoaolivas
    @pedroochoaolivas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I learned the word “subscribe” I know It and I can also put it in action:)
    A new sub here!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Il se peut que vous m'ayez mal compris. Pour moi l'apprentissage d'une langue passe d'abord par la comprehension. Pour pouvoir lire, ou même écouter des livres sur le pays et sa culture, il me faut d'abord et surtout, des mots, beaucoup de mots. Une fois que je comprends la langue, le reste est plu facile.

  • @ConraDargo
    @ConraDargo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredibly inspiring to hear this! As someone who struggles with learning new Japanese words for active usage, I shall take more pride in the passive words that I already know of as well as _new_ ones that I manage to remember about! And to not worry so much about _when_ or even _if_ I’ll be able to actively make use of new vocabulary.

  • @danielmunteanu962
    @danielmunteanu962 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi sir! I am so happy to see your passion for the learning process. When we can start a conversation in romanian about this topic ? I will be glad to speak about that

  • @cesargil5997
    @cesargil5997 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Good discussion. However when I came here I was attracted by the title and curious how you do it in order to learn 100-150 words a day! Do you use flashcards, many rehearsals per day, or simply have a good memory on top of it...? It would be enriching if you could share what techniques you apply.

    • @Thelinguist
      @Thelinguist  9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I just read and listen a lot and use LingQ. Most of my words I learn without realizing it. I don't think the deliberate study of words is as effective.

  • @magneticlanguagesofudon5499
    @magneticlanguagesofudon5499 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's where a study of the bits and pieces, i.e. the smaller words, will help in understanding the more complicated words. As I always I enjoyed this video. Keep up the good work ! :)

  • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
    @MichaelSmith-fg8xh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Passive vocab is super important when talking to natives.. they'll forgive you mangling words but they won't persist if you don't understand them.

  • @oakenguitar3
    @oakenguitar3 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if you have taken the language in school for a year or 2, it won't be too hard to try this. find a list of 2000 to 3000 of the most frequently used words or word families of a language. write a set of about 300 words down with a translation and say them out loud as you write them and repeat the next week and the next so that every week you're reviewing the same 2000 to 3000 words for about a month. 6000 words and you'll be able to read and watch movies and understand at least 70 percent.

  • @anotaelmail
    @anotaelmail 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelente video de vocabulario pasivo y activo. Lo mejor que ví en internet. Gracias Steve. Saludos, Hernán de Argentina.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is wrong with that? As you speak more, the words that you have learned will come to you, but you will understand what people are saying.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to say since I do not study Japanese on LingQ except the odd article. Any word I save has Kanji in it. Do whatever works for you.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jjay75 People can Tag saved LingQs for root words or any other reason they want.

  • @evaannavonbehne8605
    @evaannavonbehne8605 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love listening to your videos. You are always right on point. And more than that you are honest, you do not have an agenda and you do not put down others in the business like I have seen on other videos.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @easportsitsinthegam1 I LingQ a lot of words. Whether this is from lots of short articles or from longer articles , I just want a lot of yellow highlighted words when I read. I agree that at first short articles are better, and then as we improve we can handle longer lessons.

  • @magneticlanguagesofudon5499
    @magneticlanguagesofudon5499 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good Steve, let's not get hung up on word counts. Once you learn the most useful ones the others will flow in with exposure. Understanding how words are derived or amalgamated from other smaller more common words is a key, I think, in any language. In learning Thai, this is very key, many words are just 2 or 3 smaller common words combined into 1 to form another word.

  • @ellsonmendesYT
    @ellsonmendesYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was thinking the same thing, if every new word I come across I have to force to use in my daily conversation, I'll say a lot of nonsense just to make use of that vocabulary. what I find myself doing is, if I encounter too many times the same word I write it down to look it up later if the context doesnt give me any clues.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Les leçons sont contribuées par nos membres. Ils doivent obtenir la permission de l'auteur ou créer des leçons eux mêmes. L'Hébreu est une language Beta: Nous ne faisons pas d'effort pour le soutenir. Eventuellement, si le nombre d'utilisateurs de notre site, et d'une langue particulière s'accroit, nous voulons essayer de mieux faire. Mais nous avons beaucoup d'idées et beaucoup de choses a faire; et nos ressources sont limitées.
    Toujours un plaisir de rencontrer un passionné des langues!

  • @mariajohnson2294
    @mariajohnson2294 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally life changing video. It takes so much pressure off, but also puts so much natural ability on! Спасибо большое!

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Je l'utilise mes langues pour communiquer, soit en conversation, soit pour communiquer avec l'histoire, et la culture à travers lectures etc. Les conventions langagières, et la perfection grammaticale m'interesse beaucoup moins. Ma precision dans la langue dans tous ses aspects, s'améliore à fur et à mesure que je l'utilise.

  • @boravsar1
    @boravsar1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was one of your best vids. thank you sir, now i feel more enthusiastic and also calmer.

  • @eragon2121
    @eragon2121 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well said, watching this video is like listening to my own internal thoughts, I agreed with all of it.

  • @trieudeptrai
    @trieudeptrai 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    your solution to learn vocabulary is so great.you amaze me.i'm understanding a lot.thank you very much.

  • @_tanzil_
    @_tanzil_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the only one from whom i got the best suggestions... 👍❤️

  • @ДенисПлахотя-о2ч
    @ДенисПлахотя-о2ч ปีที่แล้ว

    Every episode is a proof that you know topic from several directions like a highest level of dive in theme you learn

  • @jamesheron7112
    @jamesheron7112 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and great take on language learning in general. I speak english as my first language and at the moment learning German. When I listen to you're podcasts in German the message from this video really rings true. I can understand pretty much all of what you say to whoever it is that you are in conversation with but find it harder to follow what it is the native german speaker is saying. It's always very obvious that you are easily following the conversation but you're playing it safe when it comes to speaking. I actually discovered your channel about a week ago and it's such a great, easy system. And super addictive!

    • @Thelinguist
      @Thelinguist  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Heron Thanks and good luck.

  • @zulkiflijamil6172
    @zulkiflijamil6172 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent explanation.

  • @AdnanSayeed
    @AdnanSayeed 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you 100%. I can read classical Arabic poetry, understand words in diverse Arabic dialects etc. but, I can't actively use those words. Still, I don't hesitate to say that I have a wide vocabulary in Arabic. Sometimes, when say in Iraqi friend uses an Egyptian or Palestinian dialect word, I fail to make the word and it's meaning, ie I don't recognize a word that I associate with a particular context when I come accross it outside that context.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would not get too concerned about phrasal words. Learn whatever words and phrases you come across in your reading and listening.

  • @ACzechManGoingHisOwnWay
    @ACzechManGoingHisOwnWay 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ultimately what these declensions are good for... They allow one to express stuff with fewer words. E.g. compared to English, using the right declension saves you an extra "with", "by", "through", "via", "using" etc. that you would need in English in order to successfully convey the meaning. You can also skip the subject (I, he, she, they, we etc.) in a sentence in many cases because the verb's declension expresses it already.

  • @beiramar8
    @beiramar8 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Steve !
    Im From Brazil I learn many things and many words in English with you.

  • @ingridveilleux4786
    @ingridveilleux4786 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fascinating topic that you have addressed. I've had this question in the back of my mind for years. Great food for thought.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree nariotto. I was reading Tolsty without a strong grasp of the declensions, and stil enjoying. I would save each form of the nouns in LingQ and review them. I would study the phrases where these words appeared. Their functions were different depending on ending. Gradually I got better at producing the cases correctly. So for me learning each form of the word as a different word was helpful.

  • @markforda1
    @markforda1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS IS A TRULY AWESOME VIDEO WITH A TRULY AWESOME MESSAGE

  • @dmorgan0628
    @dmorgan0628 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank-you Steve for this great video, I'm only semi-fluent in Spanish being a mixed blood but have been putting a lot of time with German, these are amazing tips.

  • @grumly85
    @grumly85 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd say, both Neil and you are right, if a word can be used at will and/or be understood in a context, then it is mastered (which in a way makes the passive vocabulary grow).
    Besides, what you say from 6:00 is obvious, when some word/expression makes sense to you, since you heard/read/heard it, then you can use it without doubt.
    Thanks anyway for your video.

  • @abdalaez
    @abdalaez 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm great at learning/memorizing each single word by word instead learning a whole sentence at once, when i memorize the words, and THEN listen to the sentence, i can easily memorize that sentence, if that makes any sense.
    I used to be the worst in english, then i tried to simply .... memorize words, my goal was 1000 word, and i did it in about 50 days along with their spelling which took most of the time for me, but then, when i watched movies, TV shows, cartoon ....etc and saw how people use those words, it was so easy for me to learn that language.
    but that's me, and how I learned, now i'm trying to learn Norsk, my goal is again 1000 word, actually 1043 and i'm following the same technique and it's much easier for me this time because in a way, English is similar to most Germanic languages, what i mean is, if you can speak English, or English is your first language, you will have much better time learning, unlike if you were let's say speak Arabic or Indian and don't speak English, or one of the Germanic languages, if i want to clarify further i would say, it's like this , the way people use words there, are kinda the same, for example when you wanna say something like " i love you" you will need 3 words, the same in norsk "jeg elsker deg" but in Arabic it's " احبك" "ahabic" it's 2 in one words, another example is something like "the chosen one" that's 3 words, in arabic it's "المختار" "almuktar" , again, 2 in one, it's not a direct link but if your mind is used to use words like this, it will have a easier time learning, anyway...
    after i finish 1000 words, i will try to read, explore, chat, and i think everything will come naturally.

    • @Scheerzaaah
      @Scheerzaaah 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abd -L- Azeez Then*

    • @mozalomakoto
      @mozalomakoto 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're crazy person. is it true, admire you lot of

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @decafry Уже читал.

  • @arrotoxietak
    @arrotoxietak 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    What about learning "dead" languages like Ancient Greek or Latin? Any advice? Thanks.

  • @LadyJapananimemanga
    @LadyJapananimemanga 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for your advice! LingQ is really helpful!

  • @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned
    @WithmeVerissimusWhostoned 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    And as for verbs in English vs Czech, since you've mentioned it.... And just to give people an idea..
    To go - Jit
    --------------
    I go - Ja jdu
    You go - Ty jdes
    S/He goes - On/a jde
    We go - My jdeme
    You go - Vy jdete
    They go - Oni/Ony jdou.

  • @Eggnificent
    @Eggnificent 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @needmanshini Usage of keigo has to be done within a certain minimum maximum threshold.
    3. Academic/literary Japanese is almost never used in coversations. These words often are reserved just for writing. That's why there are books on just writing in Japanese for Japanese and foreigners.
    4. International students will always know grammar better than the Japanese people, but usually will not use Japanese on their level unless they are actively making an effort to increase overall fluency.

  • @komkohblllkvvcvv
    @komkohblllkvvcvv 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for post, interesting arguments. i'm gathering information on productive language learning. i want to learn english better then i'm doing now, want to grow my vocabulary because there are more opportunities in life when you learn international language. My native language is lithuanian, quite difficult language. Also I can read, speak and write in russian, because before our nation got independence we were in Russia's influence. So there were lot of people who spoke in russian and i grew up in such enviroment were i been able to listen and speak in russian. Later in school I choose Russian lessons and get to knew language letters and how to write them.
    Yeah I know my english grammar is not very good, so thanks for patience.
    Good luck in your pursuit.

  • @nicolasespindola2852
    @nicolasespindola2852 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knowing a word is not a matter of whether you know it or not. It's not a binary variable. It's not about black or white, 1 or 0, yes or no. Knowing a word is more of a "how much" instead of a "do or do not". In my opinion, I prefer the term "master a word". Mastering a word involves both the ability to recognize it and the ability to use it. You can be able to recognize it (while reading or listening) and even use it, but both of them only at some extent. It is impossible to say that you can recognize or use a word perfectly in every situation. What you do can say is that you can recognize it an use in a wide variety of contexts. That's why I consider this knowing-a-word thing more of a gradient and not a monochromatic factor. The only way to advance through that gradient is massive listening and reading, together with loads of speaking and writing. It takes time but at the end of the day it pays off.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Iceland1944 We can enjoy the language passively too.

  • @iNBungs
    @iNBungs 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been a martial artist for a long time, grading tests here and in learning in general are for other people to classify you. Thats all I can see. All the testing I did in martial arts was at others requests/force. Not testing did not stunt my learning nor did testing improve it, it only provided basis for someone else to label me. Whether I am learning martial arts or a language my enjoyment and self awareness of my knowledge are all that matter

  • @Michelle-go4io
    @Michelle-go4io 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Listen to or read something (or many things) you can tolerate and understand with a dictionary, even if it takes several repetitions.
    2. Look up at least 100 words or expressions each day. Choose the words where you can't infer the meaning.
    3. Repeat daily until you can understand more and more difficult material.
    4. By doing this you will come across and understand the most common words hundreds of times and will find it easy to start using them.
    5. Start talking every day while continuing to do the above.

  • @romanvladimirovichpetrikov4947
    @romanvladimirovichpetrikov4947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Sir , for learning Russian. Peace and Respect from Russia.... Have a successful and happy life, everybody !

  • @blspegasus7457
    @blspegasus7457 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank a lot it really helps me a lot,i was so obsessed with to know much vocabulary in the languages that I am learning , I wanted to use the whole words I read on lingQ and Wikipedia it was very frustrating when I didn't remember them

  • @HezyTech
    @HezyTech 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started learning Spanish two weeks ago. I started using LingQ one week ago. It’s says that I’ve learned 2100 words in a week. That’s 300 words per day. Most of the words I’ve learned have been from LingQ and my vocabulary is blooming. It’s easily possible, you just have to be motivated. I’ve changed my language setting on my and iPhone to Spanish. The only media I have been listening to and reading has been Spanish. I’m exposed to Spanish all day, everyday. It’s not difficult

  • @janvlk3746
    @janvlk3746 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve,
    I admire that you are learning my native language, It is really hard work. We learn czech language 9 years and still we are uncertain where ato use i or y.
    Přeji Vám hodně štěstí a radosti. Knihy , které bych doporučil napsal Karel Čapek.
    Jan

  • @op-force9937
    @op-force9937 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The point is to read a a plenty of books and magazines that talk about everything, because the frequency of repetition of a word increases, for instance it will stick in the long term memory

  • @NathanClingan
    @NathanClingan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure it was just an oversight, but regarding 1:41 , English nouns actually have 2 cases, not just 2--singular, plural, and possessive (though on an etymological level one could argue the possessive is a contraction of 2 words and therefore not a case, I suppose).

  • @rsloma71
    @rsloma71 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    People often tend to complicate their lives. The Steve's method of learning vocabulary is natural and just beautiful because reading is beautiful activity. Is it realy important to learn (in the sense Steve has explained), say, 100 words instead of 50 a day ?
    Thank you for the wonderful video. Rysiek.

  • @gbp287
    @gbp287 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree with what you said here but as someone who teaches ESL in a foreign country I find many of the students here, primary and in particular secondary school students, have a huge passive vocabulary however, they never push on and reach the stage of being able to use those words or grammar structures actively.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me language learning is mostly about learning words. So it would appear that we disagree.

  • @federicorazzoli3717
    @federicorazzoli3717 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Steve. Thanks again for your englightning videos. I have a question for you. You often discourage the use flashcards, but still LingQ has them. Are they there just because people wants them? Or do you think they can be useful in some cases?

    • @Thelinguist
      @Thelinguist  10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Federico Razzoli some people like them. I use them sometimes. People should do what they like. We offer a variety of resources and tools.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @rsloma71 Yes, yes, enjoyment is the key.

  • @Thiago-gm3sf
    @Thiago-gm3sf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came across this video in the right moment. I was starting to struggle in my target language because I have a good passive vocabulary but a can't use them well :)

  • @TsukatsukiRui
    @TsukatsukiRui 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for the info Steve! 教えてくれてありがとう!

  • @alexanderfossbrnd8287
    @alexanderfossbrnd8287 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was watching this and was agreed with him. And when the video was finish, i checked comments section and then i just see this video is 11 years ago!!!!!!!!!! and that was shocking because i trying to learn it now. I was watching this 24.November 00:06 to 00:17 and when i finish writing this i waiting to next minute to do this correct and the clock is now 00:26

  • @ManDuhPandaPooh
    @ManDuhPandaPooh 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I Think it really depends on your level of whatever language you are learning. I am probably an intermediate-advance in Japanese so i have a great understanding of the foundation of the language so all i need is to build my vocabulary. I have about 4 methods i study a day and one of them is i take a song in Japanese and take all the vocabulary i don't know and put it into my anki flashcard program. This has greatly helped me even though all the words are not useful for me as of yet.

  • @Thelinguist
    @Thelinguist  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no magic number. Just keep going at it. I suspect that the number of 5,000 will hold. You will find that you need more words than you think.

  • @DavidsonLoops
    @DavidsonLoops 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also it raises the question of passive vocabulary in our own native language (English), there might be 4 or 5 ways of saying the same thing, but we only need to use one of them and understand the other 4. That is perfectly normal EVEN in your native language. The only difference is, you might be more comfortable on using one of the others if you're a native speaker, but you can have that in another language too if you choose to work on that area. Right Steve?

  • @XanderLusk
    @XanderLusk 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed. I was speaking recently to someone in German. My friend asked me later 'did you KNOW what they said?'. I said 'yes' because I understood and could tell her in English what they said. Whether or not I could have USED the words myself is a totally different thing.