Is Aspas Really A Baiter?

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  • @AddisonFlay
    @AddisonFlay วันที่ผ่านมา +620

    If mibr makes it to an international this year, aspas is THE goat

    • @sk1llzfps
      @sk1llzfps วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      not gonna happen

    • @bootao1671
      @bootao1671 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      They won't

    • @marc0z198
      @marc0z198 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Whether it will happen or not, let’s see how this comment will age.

    • @sk1llzfps
      @sk1llzfps วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@ If they make it then I will be happy, considering first game how Aspas played I'm not sure.

    • @MyDarkgaia
      @MyDarkgaia วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@bootao1671 the same way EDG never won an inetrnational? Riiight

  • @Nesness-69
    @Nesness-69 วันที่ผ่านมา +384

    Let’s be real you can’t be hating on Aspas… guy is him

    • @jolteddd1388
      @jolteddd1388 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      you can tho. he went +1 against 100t while playing with he team he made. asuna doubled his first engagements and over-tripled his first bloods with fewer first deaths.

    • @lonecontrol
      @lonecontrol วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      ​@@jolteddd1388 chill bro lol I know about your effort to go after statistics just to have reasons to talk bad about him haha

    • @IwoleK
      @IwoleK วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@jolteddd1388 I don't like aspas, but to be honest, when you are playing that much for so long, it's impossible to be positive all the time lol

    • @jolteddd1388
      @jolteddd1388 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lonecontrol huh i used the same stats they used in the video? he is not that great

    • @Nesness-69
      @Nesness-69 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@jolteddd1388 LMAO WHAT DID ASUNA ACHIEVE IN HIS FULL CAREER? Nothing. Aspas one year of his career diffs asuna all life time career.. and the insane thing Aspas is the only one to stay at his level for 4 years and this year we will see.

  • @5iddy6
    @5iddy6 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

    Aspas playstyle changed a lot from Loud to Lev. Plus, a variety of duelist he is, easily can take space or lurk when team needs. Plays all of the duelist if team needs and his stats over the years show the same,.
    Nice vid Platoon always pleasure to see such detailed analysis on the game we all love.

    • @wqeqwejkqsjdkasd
      @wqeqwejkqsjdkasd 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      WE all love is insane

  • @shantanubiradar3172
    @shantanubiradar3172 วันที่ผ่านมา +256

    lemme summarize : NAAH, he is the GOAT.

    • @HidaKAnub
      @HidaKAnub วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      THATS WHAT IM TALKING BOUT. THATS WHY HES THE MVP! THATS WHY HES THE GOAT, THE GOAT!

  • @MIXeDHeN
    @MIXeDHeN 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Oh no he went from 29 % to 25 % TOTAL BAITER OH NOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @wmxl77
    @wmxl77 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Another think I mind is important is the sentinel meta evolution, with the cypher buff the simple dash to bomb becomes a lot harder than the Chamber/kj meta

    • @thrivinganarchy5267
      @thrivinganarchy5267 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This might change with the introduction of Tejo which hard counters sentis like kj/cypher

  • @snoozy1622
    @snoozy1622 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    What an incredibly in depth analysis, no one does it like you. He brought up points no one would have thought of

    • @relevantious9326
      @relevantious9326 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yo are you 9 years old

    • @BerserkerValo
      @BerserkerValo วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@relevantious9326 finally

  • @kifako_476
    @kifako_476 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    man, ive been watching ur vids for so long now, and ur still somehow underated. Wish you good luck bro

  • @firepizza5004
    @firepizza5004 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Great Video, but something that I got me curious about your statistics is that you only are comparing him to his team, which in my opinion is not very telling of anything, since players in a role are biased to have Statistics that fit that role. Tex being an exception is interesting, but I would like to see how those Aspas stats compared to other duelists (and their respective teams), since this would be a better indication if he is baiter or not given his role on the team.

    • @superdedipro123
      @superdedipro123 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly. The entire video is not objective but aimed at certain audience.

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I definitely researched this but overlooked it in the edit. Basically any team with a traditional hard entry looks like Aspas's FB/FD distribution in 2022/2023 (SEN/EDG have Zekken/KangKang taking the most with a big proportion).
      Exceptions are teams like 2023 EG, where Boostio/Demon1/Jawgemo split first engagements and 2024 G2 who sometimes played no duelist at all and flexed entry roles across the entire team. Both these teams also had above average attack side lengths implying a similar playstyle to 2024 LEV.

    • @mickeymackleberry3554
      @mickeymackleberry3554 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@platoonval Thanks for adding comparison to other teams. Cuz i thought the video was really good but i also thought that you missed this crucial context for that part of the video. Adding this information really ties your entire analysis together. good shit

  • @uresfffff222
    @uresfffff222 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Aspas leaving lev was a big mistake, imagine how strong lev would be with Aspas and demon1 same team 🤩

    • @zeddexel
      @zeddexel วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      they both play the same role so it wouldnt really work

    • @mrblueaxolotl8528
      @mrblueaxolotl8528 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@zeddexeldemon1 is mainly a controller player

    • @durak4371
      @durak4371 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      So we just living in a fantasy world where money doesnt exist?

    • @maril1
      @maril1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@durak4371yes thats what "imagine" implies

    • @durak4371
      @durak4371 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@maril1 "aspas leaving lev was a big mistake" as if there was an another option

  • @kurtpearl
    @kurtpearl วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I think the game has evolved to a point where hard-entries are nearly impossible at the tier 1 level. The best thing duelists can do in the style of gameplay valorant has evolved into is create space. Jett smoke dash and live while team gets info or flashes, raze throw nade and satchel in but if you have no info or no more supporting util, you're dead, which is likely towards the mid-round. The amount of util this game has now and the skill of players has changed the way duelists have to play. Oxy is another example. Cracked player who "baits." Create space, sit in your smoke as jett until you see enemies on the map and then fight. At the tier 1 level, duelists can only play as well as their supporting team allows. Gather info, take engagements that are in your duelists favor, and they can easily snowball a round, especially if you have a player like Aspas on your team. It's not black and white "baiting" or "hard entrying" anymore. Duelists have to play slower because of the evolution of the game in pro play.

    • @king_thanos_2116
      @king_thanos_2116 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      KangKang,zekken and Derke are literally hard entries lmao. It's possible to be a hard entry and also drop numbers

    • @yourfavoritezoomer9104
      @yourfavoritezoomer9104 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think its just a product of the current meta. Stalling and holding agents are getting extraordinarily strong and sites are getting harder to push. I don't think hard entry is impossible, but you have to be more methodical now. If you hard push a site you are gonna either get stalled by sentinel utility or face the might of a 5 man retake flood and all of the utility that comes with it with no utility of your own.

  • @babusseus1105
    @babusseus1105 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Amazing video as always! I hope you can cover some comp related things now that we have such a diverse meta. Maybe who the best sentinel is, how Vyse is performing etc

  • @basilb4524
    @basilb4524 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This video was mainly looking at Aspas in entry vs lurk positions, but I think another interesting point I'd like to see someone crunch the data on, is Sideshow and Sliggy's observations where supposedly, Aspas tends to play for his life in some situations where he should be sticking the defuse, or playing to be more active in a 1vX scenario, or he should be hunting but instead he's saving, etc.
    But at the end of the day, even they said it's a pretty debatable topic and it wasn't the major reason lev were lost the matches that they did

  • @Falou7896
    @Falou7896 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    My personal issue with Aspas playstyle is not about entries because he is fairly good at it but that he is almost always the duelist where he is the last one alive on his team. This makes it seems like he entries, get the first blood and then disappears for the midround letting his team die.

    • @blankvlr
      @blankvlr วันที่ผ่านมา +73

      sacy commented on this (in portuguese), aspas is one of if not THE safest duelist for any team to pick
      why? he RARELY overheats, he does his job real good and doesn't die meaninglessly while also being a really good aimer/team player

    • @akami_1513
      @akami_1513 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      that makes no sense if you've watched one match

    • @SirCruxful
      @SirCruxful วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      A duelist job is to take space and maybe get an entry. Why wouldn’t you want aspas to be last alive to clutch up in your team?

    • @skwidlol
      @skwidlol วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      duelists have been miscontrued, I think people think they need to run in kill kill kill till they die, while this can be effective, at the highest level it is a lot more realistic and round winning to have a good entry space holder, Aspas is an amazing space holder

    • @Brandon-m4s7w
      @Brandon-m4s7w วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      yes, he gets first blood, gives his team space, and plays safe with the man advantage up. that is the basic role of a duelist lmfao. also, wait until you find out its the team making decisions for him, he's just better at executing the decisions

  • @Goutham.070
    @Goutham.070 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Derke and Aspas are the only duelists, who performed consistently at the highest level.

  • @jos9343
    @jos9343 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    0:37 basically sums it up perfect

  • @xanman2003
    @xanman2003 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Great vid. One thing I would’ve loved to see is something related to Bren and other’s comments about “not playing to his outs in clutch scenarios”

    • @xanman2003
      @xanman2003 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ oh yeah? I missed a lot of the lev games at champs. The only reason that line stuck out to me is it’s one that sideshow and others have said has a bit of truth in to it

  • @koluj192
    @koluj192 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    great video. I think when you say that the scene in general became more tactical and aspas had to adapt to it, it would make you point way stronger if you made a comparison of aspas with duelist stats across the board.

  • @distafn
    @distafn วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    He’s not but I swear some aspas fans are unbearable, miniboo outfrsgs him in the lower finals at champs last year and they are replying with death threats when all miniboo did was tweet a little banter before the game 😭

    • @akami_1513
      @akami_1513 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      he has nothing to do with that tho

    • @venatus000
      @venatus000 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine Aspas coordinate those fans

    • @marklywednesday
      @marklywednesday วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      “Vai morrer” isnt a death threat bro, is a thing people chant in brazil when u want the make noise to make pressure, we chant this even for sacy at his time at sentinels and he answered clutching, after that he laughed in live, Boaster and Yinsu understood its cultural in lock in , u guys dont even try to understand

    • @thomas-x3g
      @thomas-x3g 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@marklywednesday Even though it's a chant to really just put pressure on, isn't it very clear that it's "you're going to die" in the game? Virtually? I honestly think these Valorant kids don't have the IQ to simply think

    • @marklywednesday
      @marklywednesday 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thomas-x3g bro, thats the normal chant for EVERYTHING in brazil. playing football, volleyball, boxing, ufc, valorant, cs, even kids in school football chant like that, if u say thats a death thread for any brazilian they would laugh, thats just part of the psychological game of the home crowd advantage.

  • @lorenzoalves3691
    @lorenzoalves3691 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sacy said once when they were on loud, not to try fix others mistakes so in some cases he is the last standing it may be helpful to make a better teamplay style after reviewing the vod

  • @uresfffff222
    @uresfffff222 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He wasn’t always a baiter tbf , back in 2022 when loud won champs his playstyle was lot more aggressive, that is what made a lot of us fall in love with his plays. Ever since he’s been more of a lurking duelist.

  • @shashankchudasama8882
    @shashankchudasama8882 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man you have to be my fav valo analyst learnt a lot from you…hope you succeed and get a coaching job because whoever gets you will have time of their lives

  • @rayyyzzzzz
    @rayyyzzzzz วันที่ผ่านมา

    sacy once said that aspas became very disciplined and he waits for every util and resource thats how he gets a lot of kills

  • @AdityaPal_sciencepal
    @AdityaPal_sciencepal วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video and analysis!

  • @criswinjoshua9837
    @criswinjoshua9837 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A lot of people hear some stats Andy say a good player is a baiter and run with that opinion, because they are better than their favourite player 💀Players like Aspas and Demon1 just have a different playstyle than a Dive in dueslit who just go in a die, but if they are actually set up by the team with proper support they can Entry, but most of the time players like these two are so good in mid and late rounds to clutch it because there are much less util in the game and you have to just win the gun fight which is something players like Demon1 and Aspas excel at

  • @UMCsnow-mn8ku
    @UMCsnow-mn8ku วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is probably obvious but it seems top international teams always had a strat to run a duelist lurk: Optic yay, EG Demon1, Loud/Lev aspas, etc

    • @frosthammer917
      @frosthammer917 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I feel like plenty don't as well. I don't really remember Derke lurking, this year neither EDG nor TH didn't do that really either. Its very team dependent.

    • @UMCsnow-mn8ku
      @UMCsnow-mn8ku 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@frosthammer917If you count chamber, then Derke was a lurker back in 2022. It is just that Fnatic aims to have to rigid roles, so when Derke is on duelist, he is always in the pack ready to entry and the lurk shifted to mostly Alfajer on senti (also can play or used to play duelist ). However, I do agree with your overall point as some teams don’t even run lurks.

  • @zorax-_-7962
    @zorax-_-7962 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a strat based baiter is w because like mentioned his mechanics made it possible to do both play slow and assist his team and create crazy opportunities for his team with his successful entries.

  • @DageLV
    @DageLV 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    imo your job as a duelist is to make sure your team doesnt die, even if you die in achieving that goal. So if you allow enemy to frag your team, then youre playing wrong. Sure, brimstone or something needs to remain alive, itd be understandable, if they dont frag out in oportunistic situations, but duelist should.

  • @othoud4439
    @othoud4439 วันที่ผ่านมา

    tejo can be compared to breach as an initiator, but although they initiate fights for space the same way, it still feels different, tejo just feels more aggressive and overall more broken. a video on this agent can be good

  • @drew26
    @drew26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Make a video on Verno or S0m and their playstyle and how it enables them to be super flexible at specializing in multiple roles with stats to back it up.

  • @namson2005
    @namson2005 วันที่ผ่านมา

    tex getting some recognition is great, bro is heavily underrated.

  • @koiiinu
    @koiiinu วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    no mentions of com hard supporting aspas for kills?

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Definitely c0m and his entire team were great support players for him!

  • @showtimeblc
    @showtimeblc วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hes not a baiter hes the best trader you will ever see

    • @kainaim4240
      @kainaim4240 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure but is duelist the best role then?

    • @showtimeblc
      @showtimeblc วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @kainaim4240 i wouldn't put him in other roles tbh if you ask him to be a pure entry he will do it just as good as the others but you can still get more value if you just let him play the way he wants

    • @fasterbaiter
      @fasterbaiter วันที่ผ่านมา

      Duelists are supposed to be traded not trade right?

    • @Flamezz74-
      @Flamezz74- วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kainaim4240 WHAAAA

    • @showtimeblc
      @showtimeblc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fasterbaiter well yes in theory but you can work around it when you have a talent like aspas

  • @Dysthy2751
    @Dysthy2751 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I feel missing in this video is the engagement after the post plant or in the retake scenario? It maybe affects the perspective of the viewer about the Aspas's playstyles.

  • @BegadWagdy
    @BegadWagdy 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i think count overall first engagement doesnt mean he is always entry or not when you play defense as a jett you gonna have too many first blood with op for example you should count attack side first engagement

  • @anirudhkashyap23
    @anirudhkashyap23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He does what his team needs, he can give entry or can lurk and not whiff

  • @komilkhudoyqulov7229
    @komilkhudoyqulov7229 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think these "baiter" and "stats playsr" allegations started first in stage1 playoffs when he was saving in their bonus rounds in a 1v2 or 1v3 winnable situations. Co-streamers were angry at the fact that he had to try to do damage to enemys economy in 1v3 bonus even tho he doesnt win the round. Then, it arised again when they threw a 3-4 round lead against EDG on Abyss, because Aspas was getting a pick on mid, and was not switching his weapon to entry in a 5v4 resulting in many round losses. I think criticizm was correct but bit nitpicky because we have seen Aspas hard entry on raze in the same series, but still it was more of team communication failure than his fault I think.

  • @troua2001
    @troua2001 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is probably the reason why keznit is also being accused as a baiter. shyy and melser have higher first encounters.
    icy also has very similar 1st encounters with leaf

  • @bananavey
    @bananavey วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    have you considered making a video on ANGE1? (somewhat akin to the boaster & fns ones and also talking about his spacemaking and whatnot)

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I actually have had it in the idea notebook for more than a year but never got to building out a video for it! If we get some good games from NAVI this season maybe I can whip something up😉

  • @sphinxjya7049
    @sphinxjya7049 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What is the music at the start of the video?

  • @Ved0x7
    @Ved0x7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    does that mean that Demon1's playstyle is goona fit well with Leviatan? since he plays similiarly to aspas

    • @firezera
      @firezera วันที่ผ่านมา

      most definitely yes, but he's not a duelist so I don't think the comparison means anything

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely on Jett maps, but aspas's Raze was still a massive part of LEV's success and widened their map pool by a lot. My guess is that we'll see Tex flex to Raze for certain maps.

    • @Ved0x7
      @Ved0x7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I was thinking about it and I think king would probably be the best fit for raze since demon1 can play smokes like Astra and brim on those maps, e.g. lotus, bind, fracture, split are brim/astra maps

  • @Jeregolnumber9
    @Jeregolnumber9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A duelist that is playing the baiter role isn't as bad as what people think. Well yeah, baiter is just a role and let's not overthink about it because with good tactics, you know who should be the entry and who should the baiter that will play good trades. The roles will be well organised. No worries. Baiter on duelist works like a False 9 in football, it's definitely not a bad role.

  • @ATHRxeyz
    @ATHRxeyz 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Also, even though aspas didnt make many first engagements compared to his sentinels or lurking teammates, that does not mean hes a baiter. If his team is running a default or even a 4 and 1 play with someone like tex or tuyz lurking then no shit tex and tuyz have a higher chance at getting that first blood

  • @Kuro-bk7wi
    @Kuro-bk7wi 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The reason people call aspas a baiter is not cause of his first engagements but rather cause on lev whenever he was in a clutch he wouldnt try to win it and would just play for the kills

  • @cry_csgo
    @cry_csgo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So players aren't allowed to change their playstyles now?

  • @1TapWay
    @1TapWay วันที่ผ่านมา

    On lev he definitely wasn’t taking first contact as much compared to before but maybe that’s how they wanted to play around him

  • @delly8172
    @delly8172 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Could you explain why aspas has a lower acs than zekkem and zekkem has a lower rating which is more impactful?

  • @Burpingtogheter
    @Burpingtogheter วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    tldr: no, no he isn't

    • @aminonpulse
      @aminonpulse วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thx bro

  • @KWCHope
    @KWCHope วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, there is a reason the commentators say he is a stats player

  • @ryanrojan-tw2cf
    @ryanrojan-tw2cf วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe an analysis on the recent MIBR game because people said it was rigged due to the tech issue and even trash talked aspas, so what's his role on MIBR?

  • @fores7ght
    @fores7ght วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    now one on "was derke the problem with fnatic?" or something along those lines?

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely an interesting idea, thanks for the suggestion!

  • @celeriter
    @celeriter วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let me summarize: Aspas glaze (even though he deserves it). However, bro… Aspas is def baiting 💀💀

  • @eliiko6616
    @eliiko6616 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He is not just a mere baiter, he is a master baiter.

  • @MrSzoSs
    @MrSzoSs 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    it's actually 5head cuz every org will think ur best in the world and give u insane contracts but you gonna lose a little more over time from winning less tournaments!

  • @kimo0306
    @kimo0306 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    on loud the whole teams used their util all for aspas to get entry kills, on lev they didnt do it as much so he baited to get kills

  • @plagx3428
    @plagx3428 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    idk I always thought that it is the thing about Aspas. He can bait when he wants or do whatever. He doesn't care what ppl will say. Not there for show. He goes in. Does what he thinks is best. Go next.

  • @sosaS2
    @sosaS2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this feels like the baitzera discourse all over again lmao

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a throwback 😂

    • @caminhaodelixo2
      @caminhaodelixo2 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      which was even weirder as that was literally cold's role, he was never the entry

  • @durak4371
    @durak4371 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lesgooo platoon video

  • @figgop
    @figgop 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The essence of the video: Aspas is baiter and that's okay

  • @hatcheese3766
    @hatcheese3766 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    NEW PLATOON VIDEO

  • @nou-jn6uz
    @nou-jn6uz วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    yes, but only because im still upset over the 100t loss

  • @Sg190th
    @Sg190th วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'll take fooda's words over platchat icl 😂

  • @adl1719
    @adl1719 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One could say he's a MASTER... at the title

  • @LazyNyx
    @LazyNyx วันที่ผ่านมา

    can you make a vid on one of the prx players?

  • @sonatine3266
    @sonatine3266 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Leo is the most deadly player in Valorant by numbers (disconnected duels etc.) and overall also the highest rated player at VLR - before aspas. So I don't think they are "benefitting" from the algo there, they are just the best. Derke, Chronicle, Alfajer, RieNs, zekken, Sayf, something, Less, SUYGETSU, Wo0t, Shao etc. are also below the best players in the ratings over the years and who have guessed - they belong to the best.

  • @hamidmehaseb1243
    @hamidmehaseb1243 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nah man haters will always try to bring you down when they are jealous

  • @soraorganik
    @soraorganik วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not really that surprised that aspas wasn't the player with the most first engagement on Lev. You literally have tex, Mazino and Kingg ON THE SAME TEAM alongside aspas. Idk if anyone remember but Lev had the 3 best Americas players for Stage 2.
    I'd like to see you compare this play style to GenG's. Meteor and T3xture had the same dynamic as Tex and Aspas imo

  • @sleepytoast3666
    @sleepytoast3666 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a solid video but I think you should have compared more fk/fd from other players to give us a baseline to understand the numbers. And I think you should have looked at how many times was he last alive and how those situations played out to give the haters a more honest shake. But overall it was a sweet video

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for the feedback makes a lot of sense!

  • @LordVader-j8u
    @LordVader-j8u วันที่ผ่านมา

    if mibr make it this year, then no matter what ppl will say aspas will become the best player to ever to touch this game

  • @rudrasingh2547
    @rudrasingh2547 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you can make a video about how prx lost his relevancy with valorant being less hard entry game(in case they dont qualify for bangkok) and if they do , try telling what they fixed in this year.

  • @Anthony-dy2cv
    @Anthony-dy2cv วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Aspas is the type of player that you can insert in nearly any scenario/scheme/play style and he can excel.
    That's what's special about Aspas, and it's why he succeeds no matter what team he's on. He's the ideal FPS player.

  • @LucasBrands16
    @LucasBrands16 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    imagine taking into account what someone from platchat says. they never get anything right

  • @rafaelmayer4317
    @rafaelmayer4317 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People don't realize that Sacy coached Aspas to be this way. So he could use better the utilitys that he provided for him, Americans don't know that in the start of his career he was a mad dog running and entering bombs like a maniac to get 3ks or more. He's not a baiter, he just plays right.

  • @UrFada
    @UrFada วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:14 Com caught lurking as usual

  • @Realdeal1627
    @Realdeal1627 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    derke is miles ahead of him in terms of pure role gameplay

  • @Pairofrickowens
    @Pairofrickowens วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Asapas masterbaiter? 😮

    • @killexyt4063
      @killexyt4063 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      master baiter and master entry he can do both

  • @inan1tas
    @inan1tas วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope for video about Cryo my goat. Hope to see him in tournament in irl and get autograph.

  • @ATHRxeyz
    @ATHRxeyz 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My question is why. Why change up aspas play style as a coach or igl. If aspas is that good of an entry why not js allow him to entry. I understand lev was not trying to base their game play around aspas but to basically completely disregard his ability to entry is stupid. The meta even in 2024 might've been to play slower yes, but people like Zekken and zmjjkk clearly showed that you can still open rounds up perfectly fine by being that entry. Aspas has that skill and ability to be that entry so why in the hell would lev not play to that strength?

  • @008ay.sumanth7
    @008ay.sumanth7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If he is baiter, then 99.99% of valorant players are baiter

  • @edyyet9120
    @edyyet9120 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i mean the guy left the team for a reason

  • @jms7634
    @jms7634 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nah bro. fnatic avoided him all rounds in the grandfinal. he went toe toe vs prime yay chamber bro

  • @ayanmondal1953
    @ayanmondal1953 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    mibr will make it to an international ..!!!!!!

  • @j4yp350
    @j4yp350 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont let Brencasts talk shit to aspas my goat

  • @bootao1671
    @bootao1671 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Do you realize the reason LEV lost to EDG on Abyss is because Aspas was holding an Op in mid 5 rounds in a row, doing anything but entrying for his team.

    • @halalola432
      @halalola432 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      do u think Aspas solo bought that op? It was a team decision

    • @1TapWay
      @1TapWay วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      maybe king aka his igl told him to do that? Like the vidoe said they’re a very slow defaulting team and probably wanted to get a pick

    • @nhiil4495
      @nhiil4495 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@1TapWay yes probably, but he never ever dropped it to entry, like that was ridiculous, and even if his igl says to do that, when time runs low u cant keep that op as a duelist, u HAVE to ask for a switch with the sova or whoever stays in the back, u cant keep an OP 24/7 as a solo duelist thats stupid and it showed

    • @igorramos5063
      @igorramos5063 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nhiil4495 but who decides this is the IGL and the Coach, maybe Aspas asked for entry and King said no, or maybe not, the fact is that this problem is a tatical problem, not a duelist problem

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@halalola432Aspas had a lot of power on lev , in case you don’t know

  • @МПС-ъ4р
    @МПС-ъ4р 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    aspas is clean baiter 100%
    playing behind teammates

  • @tarkanhee5503
    @tarkanhee5503 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can you do a vid on yay and analyze why he had no success in 2023 dsg and 2024 bleed compared to 2022 and what he needs to do for 2025

    • @raghav1461
      @raghav1461 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The thing is, it is team dependent. Yay had arguably the best igl, the best flex player, the best smoker and the best initiator at the peak of their careers. He had people he could depend on who set him up for success. Also, his aim along with the broken chamber helped as no one was quite that good at that time. Now. I believe there are players like verno, narrate, miniboo, woot etc. newbies who have just as good aim. Even now, raw mechanical skill wise, I would put him top 5.

  • @jagannathmondal1301
    @jagannathmondal1301 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Calling aspas a baiter is itself a bait..

  • @hypnotic_o
    @hypnotic_o วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aspas is already the goat

  • @MrMiftah100
    @MrMiftah100 วันที่ผ่านมา

    to be fair anyone shititing anybody in 2024, including boostio
    i'd say let Bren have his way, it's not like Caster opinion really matter anyway to the game

  • @seanhartman4080
    @seanhartman4080 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    idk if youve done this but i feel a "how good REALLY was tenz?" on some clout sht yk

  • @ruzenmazn1823
    @ruzenmazn1823 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Before you watch the video, the one word answer is NO.

  • @valophobia2410
    @valophobia2410 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aspas is my dad

  • @Budwad9000
    @Budwad9000 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I just got enganged with my cousin 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Shinigami9w
    @Shinigami9w วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always find the aspas rant stupid the guy always does fragging and always plays for the team and yeah the VLR recency bias is wild like only after the rant they came to realisation that he is a baiter lol other they will always call him the goat why would they not say during his time in loud I genuinely feel bad for aspas getting the unnecessary hate .

  • @brendoZ933
    @brendoZ933 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Platchat's opinion is shit and the same thing, they get everything wrong. Just because one guy said that the quote is a baiter the entire internet "oh stop to think and it's true" now explain to me how 1 player who theoretically is considered a baiter when he gets to the top 4 almost every time?

  • @pranavkonkimalla07
    @pranavkonkimalla07 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i mean even if he is a baiter, idc cause hes still good

  • @jakobyte
    @jakobyte วันที่ผ่านมา

    bruh why would he entry when he is on a team full of noobs

  • @Trackball_
    @Trackball_ วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes

  • @uresfffff222
    @uresfffff222 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me derke is better , very excited for him on vitality possibly one of the best teams 2025

  • @nekoest
    @nekoest วันที่ผ่านมา

    But wait, is blameF a baiter?