Mike Bickle's Successors at IHOP-KC Reject His Strange Beliefs Except One
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- "They won't let go of one of the fundamental tenets that Mike taught... as if that's something God really wants, even as they're denying all his revelations, denying the prophetic history, denying that he ever heard God at all."
The Bickle Doctrine reviewed by pastors, leaders, and former members.
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Thank the Lord the flaws of the foundation are being exposed.
The 24/7 prayer room was man's idea.
There is nothing in Paul's 13 epistals about setting up a 24/7 prayer room.
It put so much pressure on people to keep it going in one location.
The whole lot need closing down and everyone getting proper jobs amongst the lost people who need to hear the gospel of grace.
That's the cult power he had over those people. Using Bob Jones. Trying to verify that he was an actual Prophet from God.
I got another thing to say. Jesus told the apostles I go away. And it's good that I go away because if I go away the Holy Spirit Will Come .The Holy Spirit's God folks and God dwells in US. Jesus didn't say I go away but you can come and visit me sometimes Bob in heaven. The Holy Spirit dwells in us .God is with us there's no need to go to heaven . Wow how deceived We were. Each person in that church will stand before God individually not corporately. They need to get rid of the community thing too we're all one community. We are individuals and our families are separate from the community. We are the body of Christ members of the family of God. Not the community of IHOP Kansas City Missouri
The leader must live at the same level and the rest of the body. Everybody works. Everybody shares. We enjoy equal care one for another.
Jesus does not need our money, but we must sincerely remember the pastor, he must have a million dollar house while the interns get nothing.
your ignorance is showing ...
@markstryzewski3028 look up the word "sarcasm"
Don't forget fancy cars, expensive outfits, private jets, etc while some church members can barely put food on refrigerator but must give the money for tithes
@@markstryzewski3028your small penits is showing
Thank you so very much for this verification ❤️ whew. God my heart thanks you so very much that others feel this way!!♥️
YES!!! Halleujah-AMEN!❤
So well said and reasoned. Thank you. 🙏 Amen.
Agreed. Doug and Blais are both well qualified to comment.
Yes. And it comes from the same scripture that wasn't applied to begin with. The Bible explains how to rightfully divide scripture to your church. Not just come to with new and supposed revealed words that God has not spoken.
Yes, this was sound wisdom.
Narcissistic Psychopathy in the Modern Christian Church might be a better title for this situation, or how about, Money Grubbing in Self-righteousness......
Exactly.This is true of many modern churches. From Joel osteenn to bethel to Hillsong. It's all a big money making machine with a ,"Christian face," the Gospel isn't fully preached or understood because they're to busy entertaining men with loud concert productions and flimsy storytelling messages with little to no scripture
@@wretchlikeme2506 Thank you Father for healing us.
I spoke out against this last year. I was ignored. The manipulative power that he had over young people to get them to invest precious time going to that place and singing and praying and playing instruments was cultish. It's okay to sleep at night. A matter of fact God plans us to sleep at night. And rest. Bob Jones was a false prophet Augustine was a problem false prophet and so was Cain. That's what it should have been addressed from the beginning was Bob Jones. And take all of Bob Jones's prophecies and throw them in the trash. I was there at South Kansas City Fellowship in 1983 and 84. And left when I became Metro Vineyard. Shut it all down. And I wouldn't have another prophet in that building forever . If someone says I feel the Lord is telling me this shut him down .I would just preach the word. I've got a prophecy for you. it starts in Genesis and it ends in the Book of Revelation and there's plenty in there to learn we don't need to know the heart of God for this moment .Please the manipulator the grand talker. Trying to verify how impressive he was an important that he was hearing from God personally
I would like to know more about the people who are funding this endevour. It seems obvious the past prophecy were staged. What did the money people think? Imo thats where the answers are.
I Thessalonians 5:19-23 “Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.
Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. He who calls you is faithful; he will surely do it.”
The Holy Ghost is saying , “pray without ceasing”
He is not saying IHOPKC without ceasing.
Freeeeeeeeeeedoooooom!!!
Please play this clip at the prayer house for eceryone to hear there...please. So true.
My life is a prayer 24/7
What we need is prayer without a hint of sexual immorality. A people who are observing Passover during this season. We are here and we are still praying!
This issue needs to be looked at critically, I think something is still out there
There are a lot of good intentions in that prayer room. With much respect to those who have labored imo there is much more glory to God to be won amongst people of the world. Get out there and win the world.
Cult
Without a doubt. Those ensnared should know it has been established that cult participation is a question of timing not intiligence. IQ plays no part. Dont feel stupid. It could happen to anyone
@@knowsmebyname it’s what happens when you put your trust in man- I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus name!
The same Remnant Radio that gushed and blushed with adoration when Bickle was the guest
You can't see that video anymore - it was hastily taken down when the scandal hit.
you didnt see it either
Other sites have excerpts of that video. And yes, I was drawn to the Remnant channel when they had Heiser on but once I saw the gushing over Mike and the KC prophets vision I was done with them.
And they have openly repented and said how wrong they were. You may think, “wow how could so many people not see how bad Bickle was?” but reality is…God brought people to rebuke Mike for sexual sin in the organization and he would, as top leader, shut them down and not allow those people back. Many many many men and women were pigeonholed by MB. And the things they brought to him or the ELT, were shut down as the whistleblowers would be told, “ We will take care of that!” And nothing would be done.
Truly, the dots had to connect and God gave Bickle et al leadership who knew things, plenty of time to repent. Until now…and alllll the dots are connecting bcz it’s time NOW! Bickle is a classic narcissist manipulator. Just listen to Tammy Woods’ interview on Wake Up and Win. It blows the mind of most of us bcz we would never act the way Bickle did and still does. Hope that helps.
Love this!! So true!!
Hopefully IHOPkc actually considers the Gospel more carefully over "leadership" because ultimately Jesus is our only hope for eternal life.
He is the way!
Fabulous!!!
This is Soo right!!!
So then read the novel "Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke." Explains much. Very much. Is this the novel that seminaries should have had their students read before becoming pastors? Yes. This is a fun, yet profound read. Enjoy this page-turner!
Jesus told the woman at the well that “temple worship” from the Jews and “high place” worship from the gentiles is not part of the worship the Father desires.
Yet we keep building up these spectacular high places and furnishing them with gold and expensive decorations. We don’t actually believe Jesus. We actually believe our church is gonna save us, gonna get us into relationship with God through embracing its practices and policies many of which are not modeled for us by scripture. . .we have added an extra mediator, an extra teacher and extra fathers when Christ commanded that we not have those things as Christ is our sole appointed mediator, our sole teacher and we have a father in heaven.
“Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not call yourselves teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.”
Matthew 23
They have it backwards. There are loving people who care about each other at the church so of course they can stay in a self-supporting fellowship. Drop every single thing that came out of Bickle and the KC prophets including this nonsense of changing the expression of Christianity in one generation spreading all over the world.
Start with spreading the gospel and basic bible teaching. Stop twisting OT scripture to come up with new movements.
Amen! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is a mistake to say those who serve as staff in the global prayer room at IHOPKC are IDLE. They work very hard at what they do (musicians practice and rehearse, prayer leaders study and memorize scripture) and are required to serve off site at other locations, sharing the administrative tasks, physical labor, and charitable works. These folks are anything but lazy or idle.
idle? no.
taken advantage of? yep.
This is lame
agreed, this is lame
Like earth as it is in heaven ... IHOP has positively influenced prayer across the earth ... if you can't see that you're willfully blind.
Shut it down. It's still a cult.
Lazy Christians - "One good deed is worth a thousand prayers" - Zoroaster.
Get out of that dark room
Seven (7) times Y’shua said: “I know your works…”
@@miryamnae2164 the point is most churches are country clubs for boring white people - they forgot about being a light to your community. The church has an addiction to cheap entertainment/the prophetic movement is a joke
No putting grandma on the frontlines is wrong, wrong, wrong. Paul said, “first of all I would that men pray.” Men are called to be on the frontlines of the prayer movement.
If you were praying ferverent effectual prayer; there would be no time to violate the young silly star struck attention seeking girls!!! Get back on the frontlines men and stay there! We are in a war!!!!!
Your response is sin soaked. It is a typical, ordinary response of women who need the attention of men so badly that they will throw other women under the bus to get it. You have no heart for the young women who were betrayed, ravaged, and thrown away. You belittle them and you ought to be ashamed. If you think that men are going to admire you for this, some of the very lowest may be taken in. But you’ll never get what you want from this. Turn your attention and respect. learn how to respect and how to love Jesus.
It is the enemy that wants prayer to cease.
This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.”
A bunch of humanistic excuses not to worship. IHOPs prayer room is a wonderful ministry birthed by God. They put God first before their family and jobs.
If people didn’t want to be there they wouldn’t have been. So sad and cruel what’s been said and written here.