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  • 💥NEW PATCH💥NEW FARMABLE VOID LEGENDARY & LIVE ARENA UPDATE! | Raid: Shadow Legends
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  • @TheToledoTrumpton
    @TheToledoTrumpton ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You are absolutely right about speeding up old content. As someone who has been playing less than a year, that old content is getting harder not easier. All the Tournaments, Arenas, events and so on are just getting harder and harder, because existing players are just getting further and further ahead.
    This new content isn't going to do me any good. I am struggling to get out of bronze 2 for tag team. By the time I am competitive in this new stuff, either the game will be dead, or I will be.

    • @philosophist9562
      @philosophist9562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have also been playing less than a year but I'm looking forward to this. Good way to get a great legendary champion not to mention the fun to be had in that gamemode. You will never catch the biggest whales in games like this unless you whale even more.

    • @boki1693
      @boki1693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see your point. If I didn't have a "trained monkey" job that allows me to play Raid most of the night, I would be right there with you.

    • @TheToledoTrumpton
      @TheToledoTrumpton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@philosophist9562 We will see, but if it is anything like the rest of the game, you are not going to get the legendary champion for a year or two, if ever, playing at the lowest level.
      You can get a free legendary with Plarium points too, you can get the supreme champions with all the fragments, and you can get sacred shards from tag team arena.
      Why do you think the Leggo's will be less unobtainable in he new game mode?
      All this is going to do is give the non-whale players that have been playing for years another leggo, to get stronger and make all the content even less attractive to newer players.
      But at least you aren't crazy enough to put money into the game at this stage.

    • @TheGamerReaper
      @TheGamerReaper ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheToledoTrumpton My great grand kids will get the Plarium points legendary lmao

    • @kyleatkinson5452
      @kyleatkinson5452 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@philosophist9562 but the champ will be locked behind gold 3 tier, which if tag arena is any indicator youll never reach because as you said youll never catch up to the whales

  • @thunderbug8640
    @thunderbug8640 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don’t want to do Arena but i do because of the great hall and missions, I don’t want to do Tag Team Arena but i do because of missions and Drex, I don’t want to do live arena but i will because of great hall v2 and no doubt missions. Locking stuff for PVE, some of it pretty essential, behind PVP "gates” as an "incentive" to play the crappy PVP side of raid just annoys me to no end.

  • @josynaemikohler6572
    @josynaemikohler6572 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I am a bit concerned about the fragments for that champion, since they appear to be available only for the "flat mile stone rewards". Sounds like there is a point, where unlike with Hydra, Doomtower etc. where you progress very slowly, you can not get more Fragments of him flat out until you manage to pull into the higher echolons of live arena. Which for most accounts is probably very unlikely to achieve.

    • @apoc7
      @apoc7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      yep, its "give the players who are already at the top 1% of pvp, a great pvp champion"

    • @slyfondle1885
      @slyfondle1885 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ramantu 2.0

    • @TheTrueChrono
      @TheTrueChrono ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I belive could be like normal arena, with people lvl 40 at gold 5, or could be like tag team arena, basically everyone sitting at bronze to farm drex and then gl to push. We will see, but the champ look very strong!!!!

    • @JohnGangi
      @JohnGangi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Based on what’s shown and said in the preview, it seems the ranking is like classic so there is no time gate for ranking. Appears to be no player cap. And only lose rank after Gold 1 which means getting to gold 1 is just a grind assuming you can at least win some battles. So the question is how hard will it be to go from Gold 1 to Gold 3, it will be harder than classic because you can’t cherry pick easy fights, if the matchmaking is bad then it will be very frustrating.

    • @TheTrueChrono
      @TheTrueChrono ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnGangi sure, still, is not an impossible achievement or a ramantu like grind! but is also not like classic arena

  • @dylank.4498
    @dylank.4498 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve never been a big PvP fan. I just hope these live arenas aren’t going to prevent people from getting things done like dailies, advanced quests, or any of the fragment or fusion champion events. I will lightly mess with the live arena, but really won’t make it my top priority at all.

    • @RedDeadRobot
      @RedDeadRobot ปีที่แล้ว

      I could be wrong,but I'm 99% sure I remember hearing they will add a quest for it. Like 3v3, they will try to force it. If they do add em,it will be an advanced quest. Personally I already ignore them.

    • @dylank.4498
      @dylank.4498 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedDeadRobot yeah but 3v3 isn’t a requirement for things like fragment fusions or regular fusions.

    • @RedDeadRobot
      @RedDeadRobot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylank.4498 Oh, sorry,I miss-read your statement. You meant time wise. I thought you meant showing a quest in so that ppl would be forced to run it to complete the lot and get end reward,daily or 3v3.

  • @tkt546
    @tkt546 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Where are the area bonuses for Iron Twins, Sand Devil, and Doom Tower? Did they forget about these?

    • @TheDarkVyers
      @TheDarkVyers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No they didn't forget. They just hate the players that don't spend and wouldn't want to make that "high end" content easier for them.

  • @MrSuckit206
    @MrSuckit206 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Not sure if anyone noticed, but in the live arena great hall, each location has a "grade" next to it, and the higher the grade, the more medals needed for each tier. The lower tiers are the easier content and the higher tiers looking like clan boss/hydra.

    • @ltekbas
      @ltekbas ปีที่แล้ว +11

      to get hydra tier 9-10 takes 2000 medals and to get potion keep tier 9-10 500 medals

    • @ryantoth531
      @ryantoth531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ya im looking for cb

    • @adwardyudin
      @adwardyudin ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep, still probably going to focus on CB and Hydra... It does seem to be easier than the current great hall though, considering the amount of crests you win per victory, which is definitely a relief. The current great hall is an absolutely absurd grind, like 4-5 years IF you are VERY active??? absurd... thankfully this looks to be substantially quicker to max.

    • @davidebellomo358
      @davidebellomo358 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adwardyudin Actually.. CB is solved without the need to add any more area bonus, you can reach UNM with a lot of different compositions, it can help to have some more speed, acc or damage, but that's temporary untill you can get there with gear. Hydra is where the money is for me definitely. That and maybe dungeons now that there's the hard stages

  • @jackobatgaming
    @jackobatgaming ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You are right, time spent in game is one of Raid's biggest issues and why I eventually stopped playing. Some people might be ok with just not doing everything and just doing what they can reasonably fit in... but many gamers are not those people. They WANT to feel like they are keeping up and competitive (at least at the level they are at, they know they won't ever compete with whales). If they can't play the game correctly, they'd rather find a game where they can.

    • @Grimreaper213w3
      @Grimreaper213w3 ปีที่แล้ว

      08

    • @killerb187r.o.dstunna9
      @killerb187r.o.dstunna9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a big issue for people who don't play the game all the time, that's why I want live Arena to be on all the time.

    • @chasep7734
      @chasep7734 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @Gilgaladt
      @Gilgaladt ปีที่แล้ว

      I quit 2 or 3 weeks ago after the CvC with personal rewards (After 18 months) It had been months that I already felt like having a second job. Just as you pointed out I'm no the guy to skip Faction wars because glyphs are so damn important, I don't feel like skipping DT hard because Dark Fae gives an amazing set, I don't feel like wasting energy so I'm always spending it to be under 130. The Great hal bonuses are insane but take ages soooooo I'm grinding every single day. Don't get me startet on Iron twins, or the sand devil, or sitting in TTA Silver 3/4 and trying to push Gold 1. 3 weeks ago I said " enough !! " Amazing game but I'll gladly pass, the real life out there is more important.

    • @younggod4228
      @younggod4228 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do anybody still play wow? It’s been about ten years for me. I see people playing LOL but it don’t hit like WOW do to me.

  • @tobybryant5217
    @tobybryant5217 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I can't state enough how much I hate the fact Raid forces you to do pvp to progress in pve.

    • @thefknzipster9137
      @thefknzipster9137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You dont have to do pvp for pve at all, good gear is suffice, it just helps

    • @frickxnas
      @frickxnas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@thefknzipster9137 as a person who pushed mostly dmg now I regret not having that extra 80 accuracy and resistance in twins tower. It's a huge boost but I do like arena so it's ok

    • @dariusjankovskij8364
      @dariusjankovskij8364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just cheese all the fights. There are plenty of 1 champ enemies.

    • @beachbumb71688
      @beachbumb71688 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean no one forces someone to play or engage-content comes out all the time we don’t have to play it-the next summoning tournament we don’t have to pull shards. But if people had the money or had saved up the resources/time they can. I recommend playing a different game and switching back and forth-it might help manage your hate.

    • @JnoEL1
      @JnoEL1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Zayn H That's a great point but without progressing in pvp you can't get arbiter or gold tokens for your great hall. So yea I agree with you but can't ignore how much more investment of time this game would require someone that can't compete in pvp

  • @clemsonalum98
    @clemsonalum98 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I see a lot of potential problems with this arena thing. First of all, the 30 MIN overall time limit is way too long. You are going to get a lot of trolls who build super defensive teams who simply wait for the other person to quit, because very people will want to stick around for 30 mins for one battle. So the first adjustment needed is a reduction of the 30 MIN. I also think 15 sec per turn is too long, it should be 10 at most. The draft also looks too long. The time sink just for one battle could be huge. There also needs to be a mechanism so both don't get penalized in a draw. I think its a great idea but the implementation as it stands now is full of fatal problems.

    • @fangsclaws9631
      @fangsclaws9631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      great comment i completely agree this looks like an upcoming time disaster . Average medium speed match with that Draft seems like a 7min per token INSANE

    • @Yeet42069
      @Yeet42069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      15 sec is fine, 30 minute is not, it should be 5 at best, even 10 is too long for a single match

  • @Teardropbrut
    @Teardropbrut ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Live arena is very low priority for me, I haven't even tried the hard dungeons and I have played over three years and currently limiting my playtime

  • @gyranthir
    @gyranthir ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MSF did this and it failed miserably.

    • @007whiterussian2
      @007whiterussian2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I played msf when it came out and it was fun for a day but just took forever to do

  • @Blindeyeseesfar
    @Blindeyeseesfar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    20:00 he's not a musician, he's a gladiator

  • @kershka89
    @kershka89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    there was a mode exactly like this in marvel strike force and its been the most hated mode for the past 2 years. now nobody plays that mode. hopefully raid will do a better job of it

  • @JGmann
    @JGmann ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm happy to see that the live arena quests is seperate quests and not part of advanced quest. Was afraid I had to log in at very specific times to complete the advanced quests.

    • @capusvacans
      @capusvacans ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry, it will become an advanced quest soon enough once ppl figure out that the great hall bonusses are pretty worthless compared to the time spent getting them. So less players will start bothering with this, and tadaaa, you get an advanced quests just so they can pad out the nr of players participating in this.
      They did it for 3v3, srsly how many ppl would completely skip this if it wasn't for the advance quest? Same for hydra, that quest also came in later when they noticed that ppl just didn't bother playing it.

  • @domross
    @domross ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You made a good point about high end players.. most of which won't need an extra 30% attack in potion keeps so could get pretty bored very quick unless theirs actually something to go for

  • @WiLDRAGE777
    @WiLDRAGE777 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Great Hall is not surprising; it's just a way to force engagement in their PVP by locking out PVE stat progression.

    • @Tainwulf
      @Tainwulf ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup if there was no great hall I'd never even bother with this feature at all. I don't care about PvP at all and it's annoying I HAVE to deal with it at all just to do my dailies. Guess I'll just run whatever I have to for dailies on auto win or lose.

    • @ChrisOwens-wg4zm
      @ChrisOwens-wg4zm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love this comment, this is so true, I had hopes that this wouldn’t be the way they went but I should have known better

  • @007whiterussian2
    @007whiterussian2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing with live arena in a game like raid is there really isn’t any strategy in how you play the battle, the strategy is in the team comp and gear. It’s not like swgoh where matches can go either way and the character kits are very complex. In raid it’s just debuff,buff, nuke so I don’t know how different it would play out manually vs auto in live arena

  • @karlgunterwunsch1950
    @karlgunterwunsch1950 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing almost everyone overlooks is the „the champion must be unique across BOTH teams“, so you can no longer do a Arbiter vs. Arbiter speed race…

    • @Dumbrkid
      @Dumbrkid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s only in Gold. In bronze and Silver you can have the same champion on opposing teams

  • @shaneandera1409
    @shaneandera1409 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's still going to be a grind to get this new "hall" filled up. They made a valiant effort to give a good amount of crests for each win (70 on g4). There goes another 5 years of gaming to max out this hall.

    • @volkerhohne6446
      @volkerhohne6446 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Go only for the imporant one, live FK Speed, Hydra and maybe CB stats for damage and Survaivavility

    • @MD-ek6yt
      @MD-ek6yt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I reckon longer, 2 years ftp and I've only got 10% of great hall done.

    • @shaneandera1409
      @shaneandera1409 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's definitely going to be nice adding certain stats to like clanboss, and being able to prioritize one area of the game from the beginning.

    • @xFaZeDii
      @xFaZeDii ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel the same I’m not really looking forward to live Arena I don’t like PvP stuff in general I’m not very good at it. The game will probably die out before I get enough wins in live arena lol

    • @volkerhohne6446
      @volkerhohne6446 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xFaZeDii Why does everyone hate PvP, it is the thing i enjoy the most

  • @MadMartigan3
    @MadMartigan3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Biggest issue I see about the stalling is if you are going to lose anyways you can stall and force the other player to get a loss as well.

    • @LuuLBV
      @LuuLBV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you can stall for 30 minutes without beinng defeated, then you are not .. defeated

    • @joshfry575
      @joshfry575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can already see Paragon cheese in the future…

    • @siromnomnom6510
      @siromnomnom6510 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuuLBV but let’s say you both are a stall team, then who should win for live arena?

    • @RazvanStefan
      @RazvanStefan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshfry575 there are couple of counters for that...

    • @joshfry575
      @joshfry575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@siromnomnom6510 no one, so it will probably be a case where someone will try to piss off other players to quit. I’d imagine if someone quits, the other player gets a win

  • @vladimirsemkovich3021
    @vladimirsemkovich3021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tag arena in Gold 1 take 7-10 minutes to complete, so only to do daily 5 fights it takes up to 40 minutes if you want to win and don't have a super speed team. They definitely need to do something with that

    • @pglanville
      @pglanville ปีที่แล้ว

      Use one man defense for most of the week. That fixes your tag time issue.

  • @Yolozaur69
    @Yolozaur69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:54 "we don`t have too much people left so it would have been useless to keep it open non stop" but said different in "tech" terms.

  • @Sam-uu2nx
    @Sam-uu2nx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It really shouldn't be based on who has the better gear. EVERY CHAMP SHOULD BE MAXED. Plarium can figure out the stats. But every one should be fully 6 star, awakened with whatever blessing and end game stats. That way it's who's the smartest, not who spent the most

    • @samuraifuzz5038
      @samuraifuzz5038 ปีที่แล้ว

      A fair fight doesn't benefit the whales.

    • @royshaul2392
      @royshaul2392 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the goal of this game isnt to give everyone a fair fight ... this game exists to milk players for money hehe

  • @joshuasmith4643
    @joshuasmith4643 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unfortunately if they never implement a system to where we battle friends and clan mates(eventually a guild wars) this live pvp will be just like normal pvp but a time window.

  • @cryptfire3158
    @cryptfire3158 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:20 I'm so tired of Raid pretending that 25% more CD increases your champions overall CD by 25 percent.
    So far in the game what they actually have been doing is "ADDING" 25 CD whenever they "pretend" they are giving you 25% more.

  • @artur1682
    @artur1682 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hydra speed/accuracy/resistant stats will be the first ones to pick up and getting ready for UNM difficulty. Unless they introduce soon hard dungeons 11-20. Imagine that for newer players getting the demon lord stats can be more important to have UNM clan boss solved as soon as possible.
    Really hyped about new void nuker. My account is avoided by top nukers of any affinity, so considering that my best option so far is Supreme Elhain he seems like a straight upgrade. Have to save some gems and buy monthly gem pack :)

  • @likelemmyidabasest3882
    @likelemmyidabasest3882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds pretty cool overall, biggest concern is the rng/luck/money factor, if your shard pulls suck and you're ftp this could be a nightmare, though maybe that's the point, to encourage spending. In fact, it is. Will wait and see though, depends how they calculate your lvl etc.
    Interesting for sure though.

  • @wheresthepudding946
    @wheresthepudding946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually really like how the live arena is only open at a set time (kinda depending on how that time aligns with my schedule)

  • @brandonr.2807
    @brandonr.2807 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Raid only survives because there are players who will pay to win. They wouldn't release a feature that did not HIGHLY skew in their favor.

    • @tivox
      @tivox ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, if I spent 10k on a game I would at the very least expect to have a big edge over a f2p player.

  • @Slaadi
    @Slaadi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the various games I've played, having live arena open at scheduled times never worked for me. So I ended up dropping those games.

  • @Stubbsie8
    @Stubbsie8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am REALLY not looking forward to the new great all that looks like an even bigger and more intense great hall then the one we have currently which already takes more then a year of playing every day and doing every reset to complete. But it offers such big bonuses you cant really ignore it either. I play the game for the PvE but now im going to be forced to do an extra 30 minutes a day in live arena to boost PvE stats

    • @1962recon
      @1962recon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3 years and I am still grinding on the current Great Hall!

    • @capusvacans
      @capusvacans ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is nothing in the game that you can't beat without those new great hall stats. I will completely ignore it. Just think of it this way, those stats will save you at most 10 minutes a day while grinding various areas (and won't save you any time in clan boss or hydra).
      The way the system works, at it's worst a single battle could take up to 40 minutes. So is spending hours in live gearVgear arena really worth speeding up other areas of the game by a tiny amount? Imo it simply isn't.
      In a sense those bonusses are great for ppl who struggle clearing the pve content the way it is now, buuuut, those ppl won't have the gear or champs to compete in silver or gold anyways, so they'll just manage to upgrade the stats by a tiny amount. So even for them the bonus from these stats will be a huge waste of time.
      Honestly, unless you are a completionist or a sadist, there is no reason whatsoever to bother with any of this.

    • @Yeet42069
      @Yeet42069 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is considerably smaller, only relevant ones are cb and hydra and in that order if you can't down unm. The dungeons can be good for solo builds and new players who progress, but are not necessary.

    • @jacobbaartz7710
      @jacobbaartz7710 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro, chill. I skip Hydra and I'll still attempt PvP. You'll live without it.

  • @joepocica5287
    @joepocica5287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody I’ve seen yet has pointed out that Clan Boss is on there. Sooo if you start dumping crest/medals/shinines into the speed bonus… There goes your teams speed tune! Gonna have to constantly be regearing your champs until you can max it out.

  • @gprawdzik
    @gprawdzik ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I said this when it was first announced and I’ve said many times since as well. Arena is no longer pvp (player vs player), 99% of all battles are gonna be pvs (player vs stone skin)
    Stone skin, in my opinion has ruined arena.

  • @hansvonmannschaft9062
    @hansvonmannschaft9062 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gladiators were the "rock stars" of the era, devs knew this, and you were spot on with your guesses 😀. He was missing just one skill: *_"Are you entertained?"_*
    I like the overall idea, but, let it be known, specially for the young or unfamiliar, *_Thar be purposeful stalling,_* - For example, World of Tanks, 12 years old this year, mentioned in both posts and splash screens: *"A Draw means BOTH TEAMS LOSE".* You can imagine what's the deal there. So, there'll also be frustration. Other than that, yeah, sounds good. You made good points by the way, HH, regarding who'd feel compelled to do LArena. I'd say anyone wanting the champ at first, not sure afterwards. Great vid, thank you! 😃👍🏼

  • @taklampan650
    @taklampan650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The void lego looks absolutely insane! Wonder if he's gonna be a powerhouse for demon lord as well if his A1 hits hard enough. Would love to see it tested

  • @PolariusKarnun
    @PolariusKarnun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Depending on how it's coded, the 30% damage from the Zeal gear could be wimpy, comparable to ignore defense, or EXODIA OBLITERATE

  • @kevinsykes580
    @kevinsykes580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with you the band should be after the third pick also I wish they would come up with some type of system where if you're short let's say 30% of your brightness for a fusion you can pick up the rest some other way!

  • @lAsteriosl
    @lAsteriosl ปีที่แล้ว

    14:30 Not just like Classic Arena. In Classic Arena - Gold medal cost 4 Bronze or 2 Silver. Here they have the same value.
    20:17 If enemy have 5 buffs - his A1 going to straight up killing because of passive.

  • @OnePiece4ev3r
    @OnePiece4ev3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing rarely mentioned, I'm kinda worried about connectivity to be honest. In some other gacha RTAs if the other person had bad connection a match could take a while. Beside that I think the picking phase will probably see people picking something like duchess,pythio, 2x dps and whatever other dangerous pick you might have i.e nekh. I don't think anyone would wanna risk going in with no damage or no reviver.
    Another interesting thought is what happens when someone picks an all-tank team in an attempt to force the other person to surrender lol

    • @DetoNateFPS
      @DetoNateFPS ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking this, but its live pvp. Someone will eventually make a mistake or the other player could force buffs to come out before attacking and holding off an attack for the right moment. Tank teams have always existed in RTAs and I don't think it'll be too crazy. Besides, this new dude will smack hard, and Ronda will have such a high pickrate for this.

  • @NotY0urHeroo
    @NotY0urHeroo ปีที่แล้ว

    He's not a musician, he's a gladiator/"arena" fighter. "Encore", "crowd favorite" etc are referring to his battle performance .Cool flavor for an arena champ tbh.

  • @6gm9pipiar
    @6gm9pipiar ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for everything i wanted to give my point of view about what u say at 13:50
    If ppl invest time on PVP cuz they like it more...
    its great to have improoves in PVE since ure playing PVP becouse is the content of choice, but you could end up to behind in everything...
    most MMO's have this "choose your path" while improove in any aspect

  • @sotos2575
    @sotos2575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i agree completely hades, the game MUST become faster to complete, it takes about an entire day to complete all daily content to get all rewards in the daily tab, either a times 4 speed or a complete skip if the dungeon/campaign is complete. For the love of god im sure i speak for the entire community, make the game faster. So they prove to us that they listen to us and dont ignore the community

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00 ~ 110%, Totally and COMPLETLY agreed! This game NEEDS a "time re-work" from the ground up! They need to give us some time back. Thi sis not a "day job", should not feel like "work". This is supposed to be "fun", and currently I find NO fun in "spending" crazy time jus to "do stuff", like to be "competitive", or at least "pass up" some of 'the required' things!
    Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!

  • @williamblaze5527
    @williamblaze5527 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the timed windows. When I played marvel contest of champions, it was clutch knowing exactly what time war starts

  • @chalicedungeonenjoyer
    @chalicedungeonenjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im looking forward to having some fun with this but at the same time i know im never gonna be able to compete for plat or even high gold tiers if this goes anything like tag team arena. i have some good champs (think like a handful lol) but as a low spender i just dont have enough champions to be able to build some specifically for this, especially the ones considered S or even A tier. like yeah sure i have brogni but i need him on my cb team hahaha

  • @liamc1633
    @liamc1633 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing we didn't talk about (maybe other comments have) is that since Bronze crests can't unlocked higher % hall ranks there is another paywall as you put it, instead of allowing bronze crests to contribute at a reduced rate.

  • @MarEvayave
    @MarEvayave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more space in our gear inventory for all these new sets they are adding. Also, what a whalefest this system will be and forcing you to participate via quests and making other players even more OP. Now normal arena and 3v3 will be harder if you don't also play the new content because your opponents will get stronger from all the benefits in live arena.

  • @bobberrt930
    @bobberrt930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    quite frankly my first reaction at seeing that there are only 5 live arena token was relief...

  • @pocketqueens830
    @pocketqueens830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah, was hoping the live arena champ wouldn't be locked behind a system that people with already stacked accounts can only access. More like drex you can get over time even if you aren't lucky or good.

  • @aaronguinn7299
    @aaronguinn7299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the content Hades! Quick question though, with the new Great Hall expansion does that mean the old Great Hall benefits are only for PvP now and we need to grind out live arena for the PvE bonuses now or will the old great hall still count towards PvE content and the new expansions just provides more benefit?

    • @marink701
      @marink701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good question but in all fairness ppl are gonna get very...not happy if the bad version happens XD

    • @aaronguinn7299
      @aaronguinn7299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Marin K oh absolutely. They would be insane to do that, but I mean it is Plarium lol

    • @JGmann
      @JGmann ปีที่แล้ว

      old great hall doesn't change

  • @robertshrout8878
    @robertshrout8878 ปีที่แล้ว

    ash did a test on seer the other day with masteries, helmsmaher (Chance of ignore def) vs Flawless execution +20% C Dmg. both masteries where close to even on seer. if the enemy has full hp it would be +55% c dmg i think that will be Better then ignoring 25% def but then again it will depend on just how much Def the enemys have. ash was testing on waves for the ice golem i think so would depend on the content more then anything maybe.

  • @TrackMediaOnly
    @TrackMediaOnly ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It looks like I'm going to hate this more than I thought I would. And more than likely they are going to use advanced quests to force you to play. If so and depending on how often they force me to win, this could be why I quit Raid.

  • @EKCO0310
    @EKCO0310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can see drokgul the Gaunt becoming a useful pick

  • @drummertheman
    @drummertheman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I 100% agree the ban phase should be before the last pick; let each person pick 4, ban 1, then get a single reactive pick post-ban to try and clean up or adjust for the ban a bit.

    • @drummertheman
      @drummertheman ปีที่แล้ว

      35 WINS to get one chest with some of the new artifact set sounds like grinding even one usable set of either of those is going to take an excruciating amount of time.

  • @beachbumb71688
    @beachbumb71688 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000 % agree we need to speed up the experience-allot of the content is so slow it takes forever to get through.

  • @twodeepmatt
    @twodeepmatt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think this garbage will add to the time sink of this game and letting them dictate what "window" I have to play the game is a terrible, terrible mistake.

    • @SSuser-go7jm
      @SSuser-go7jm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I partly agree. Live arena seems really fun, but time limits could be annoying depending on your schedule.

    • @mattshelton7423
      @mattshelton7423 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SSuser-go7jm I’m with this guy. I like how Live Arena looks, just not that it’s restricted to certain times. I think once they get out of the testing phase, people will definitely be in there enough to keep queue times down.

    • @SSuser-go7jm
      @SSuser-go7jm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattshelton7423 With “this guy” do you mean me or op?

  • @Sam-uu2nx
    @Sam-uu2nx ปีที่แล้ว

    The spinny graphic of Quintis reminds me of a game I used to play called For Honor. Looks exactly like the 1v1 duel arena

  • @JohnGangi
    @JohnGangi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the time limit was more like speed chess style, each player has say 3 minutes and the faster you take your turn the more time you have for later. 30 min total timer is ridiculous and even 15s per turn still seems long.

  • @cthulwho8197
    @cthulwho8197 ปีที่แล้ว

    I figure he’s a gladiator rather than a musician, that still means the likes of Crowd Favourite and Encore Performance makes sense. And Quintus is a Roman name.

  • @sturmwyvern1183
    @sturmwyvern1183 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right about the time spent in this game and I'm on the verge of quitting because of it. I wasn't a big spender, but now I'm a zero spender. I'm 4 years in and I'd say for the last 7-8 months now I've only logged in to do daily quests, there's just not enough time saving features. The time to reward ratio just doesn't seem worth it. I hate spending time farming for gear only to get disappointing pieces, and the few good pieces you get turn to trash when RNG rolls.

  • @Slackerino
    @Slackerino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantastic! more content for those for played for years and have super strong champions... sucks for everyone else...
    our current great hall is already a crazy struggle to complete and farm those medals, now there will be even more for 90% of the player base to struggle with farming..
    also to get that void champion you will need 4000 rating which is equal to gold 3, which most players wont get to because agian, either not insane whales or have not played for years.
    it seems like plarium really wants more players in raid, but they keep adding more content which newer players or less progress players wont touch for so long that the game might just be dead and gone before reaching that point.

    • @TheDarkVyers
      @TheDarkVyers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is exactly what I've been saying about Awakening. There's so much RNG and so little rewards for doing the twins that by the time you could get a full team of 6 star Awakened champs the game will be dead lol.

  • @Deamon187
    @Deamon187 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:00 events id say would cause you to want to play more than the 5 daily and id be willing to bet that it will come

  • @kevinj33
    @kevinj33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damage dealers without ignore damage are ready getting in the meta. See Turvold for example. Zeal set will do pretty well

    • @Yeet42069
      @Yeet42069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it won't. The dmg reduction even a little bit of armor provides is more than the dmg increase zeal gives, let alone on tanky units who you need it against...

  • @thegreathammer
    @thegreathammer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here I was somewhat concerned that Lydia would be my last free legendary void champ. Good stuff. Looks so fun imo!

  • @MrJustUnlucky
    @MrJustUnlucky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope we get area bonuses for Doomtower too

  • @nicoleblack9602
    @nicoleblack9602 ปีที่แล้ว

    love how they clearly showed an example of a maxed out great hall overflowing with extra gold medals but I have yet to see what they'll do about that. there's gotta be a way to spend those

    • @enormicon
      @enormicon ปีที่แล้ว

      Check the latest Raid digest; can be exchanged for gear drops and charms (HH was on a live with DWJ when that news came out)🤙🏻

    • @nicoleblack9602
      @nicoleblack9602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@enormicon thanks

  • @chasepeterson1696
    @chasepeterson1696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of rough time windows... In my time zone (central US) there is really only one window available for anyone who works a 9-5 and the one open window is right at dinner time.

  • @jacobbaartz7710
    @jacobbaartz7710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the exclusive player picks, while interesting, would just feel more shit than intentional. I think the system is a copout of plarium so they don't have to look at reports of meta mirror matches.

  • @jxshbxyce5176
    @jxshbxyce5176 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ban is at the end because you draft into to comps, summoners war is the same. only in world championships is there a pre ban, and thats because all the whales know eachothers accounts and best champs so they insta ban them. My biggest hope is a seperate gear system for live arena because live pvp uses very differnt build normally, cleaves stop working at a higher level generally unless gear is insane

  • @NubeSkills
    @NubeSkills ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quintus feels like Taras but slightly off. Like a mirror image. Taras does Dec atk and Quintus does Dec def. Taras increases buff duration Quintus will rip them off. Taras will do more damage to enemies with buffs on allies. Quintas will do more damage to enemies that have more buffs. Very different but extremely similar.

  • @sendraks
    @sendraks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mix of PvP to get PvE bonuses doesn't sit right with me either. Aside from the enjoyment of doing arena, there's no reason to do it beyond bonuses for PvE.Its a bad design. As for balancing, I agree with you, it would be nice to see live arena bouts so that PvP is competitive and fair. However, that won't sit right with the whales and krakens, as it takes away their PTW advantage and Plarium don't want to undermine their own financing model.

  • @matthewzavala3096
    @matthewzavala3096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also in summoners war. You would be auras and skins for doing well in live arena. Also there was a shop to buy items.

  • @jackzanetti6235
    @jackzanetti6235 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get the limitations, but to be fair the 2 hour windows are kind of insane. I know I'm not UTC but let's just assume I was, 12 to 2 am I am asleep. 6 to 8 I am preparing for work. 2 to 4 I am still at work. Which leaves my only window as 8 to 10. It can be highly inconvenient for players especially if there are quests and rewards associated with it.
    My prime time for playing raid is set clan boss teams around 6 am while getting ready for work. Then I get most stuff done between 430 when i get home and 7 to 8 ish. After that I'm primarily cueing up for work again, cooking, pressing clothes etc and i hit bed at 10. Think the windows need to be either 3 hrs or 1 hr every other hour. Either way you get 12 hr coverage instead of 8 hrs and I think much more convenient access. But that's just me. Perhaps I'm an anomaly

  • @smokeythebeast8288
    @smokeythebeast8288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally I'm looking forward to this it seems fun. On top of that all those extra stats for Clam boss is going to make my clan boss team run a lot faster. I hate unkillable teams and think they are cheesy so I run the same comp I've been running for a while now. Brogni,Brago,geo,Krisk,and valk. It hits for around 75 million per key. That team takes about 15 minutes with all those extra stats I think that's going to drop my clambroth run down to 10 minutes. Hydra is well and this new Champion looks like he might be useful taking down shields in fire night

    • @wolfkingt
      @wolfkingt ปีที่แล้ว

      The first place I thought of was Fire knight lol

  • @RicoLen1
    @RicoLen1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You frequently mention how too much time is spent playing the game, but I only half agree. Doing your dailies should only take a finite amount of time, so in that I agree with you, however, if Plarium were smart, they'd be adding misc. things you could work towards that would allow people who WANT to spend all day playing their game to get something out of it as well. This is the approach MMOs have taken for years now and it's worked out for the benefit of everyone.
    In Raid's case, they should be adding new campaigns every 6 months or so to incorporate all the lore they've created around the game on their social media accounts and whatnot into the actual game itself. Faction specific campaigns would be an absolute blast, especially if you're given a new starter that is locked to the faction campaign until you finish it. Farming certain portions of the game should also allow people to points towards things like skins, or previous fusion fragments, and things like that.
    Essentially reward players who want to play the game all day long, but don't penalize players who don't have that much time either. Right now, what you're suggesting is that Plarium can't do both when we've seen plenty of models that have proven it can be done.

  • @keithstevens3934
    @keithstevens3934 ปีที่แล้ว

    Real balance would also include everyone’s great hall being the same. Either nothing or all maxed.

  • @Underwarts
    @Underwarts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahaha! Jury strikes! We lawyers have a brutal mindset advantage for this new content.

  • @vikasbadaya8170
    @vikasbadaya8170 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now a 4X button is needed. They could make it level locked like 3X unlock at lvl 50 and 4X unlocks at lvl 90

  • @Hammer701
    @Hammer701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's a gladiator that's why his skills are named that way.

  • @chasepeterson1696
    @chasepeterson1696 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree about speeding up tag team arena. That was one of my first thoughts. I spend so much time on 3v3, and now spending tim on live arena, when will i have time for other game modes

  • @Korvac_one
    @Korvac_one ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another area of the game that I won't be doing. Thanks Plarium.

  • @bigu1874
    @bigu1874 ปีที่แล้ว

    While I can open Raid for a couple minutes during break time this will not be enough for a live arena match. The 4 slots quickly reduce to 1 for someone working in an office. A two hours slot instead of 8 hours over the day ... not looking forward to "have to plan" around that, if I want to play the game mode.

  • @geem9307
    @geem9307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Georgid can already benefit a ton from the additional 25% ignore def that lethal or savage gear gives you, this will be useless for him in comparison.

  • @johnjones8026
    @johnjones8026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could be good, i personally dont enjoy PVP on this type of game. I just do arena to get my medals for great hall, i do agree with you its so overwhelming! i am near late game and i am still working out what sets are worth it in the game. That great hall idea is stupid!

  • @dodeath
    @dodeath ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From one way it's nice the timing, so there is more people there. From other hand is another thing to schedule your life around raid... Specially if they force you do to it daily for some quests or makes keys daily (wrote to early.. they made it.. :D ).
    Edit: True on time. My clanmate planning to quit, because it just takes too much time.
    1300 items / 60 (around sets) = 21.67 item per set / 3.6 set of each set you can store... Ofc there is garbage, but basically you cant collect good items and just try different scenarios. So ridiculous to add more sets...

  • @TheDarkVyers
    @TheDarkVyers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you want to do a new arena that's more exciting and offers new challenges? Sure, but it's scheduled on a very small window, so you probably can't find time to play it.
    If it's anything like Plat reset (4am for my timezone) these windows will be while people in my timezone are sleeping or working. We might be able to play in 1 of the 4 windows.
    As for the final champ milestone being in Gold 3 good luck getting there if you haven't spent thousands for good arena teams. Don't forget Plat players will be in Gold 4/Gold 3 in Live arena.

  • @chasepeterson1696
    @chasepeterson1696 ปีที่แล้ว

    New champ look sweet! Only thing is the passive... says that pure damage ignores shield. does that mean the non-pure dmg doesn't ignore shield. so against a shield, you do (lets say) 20% max hp dmg ignoring the shield, then the actual hit smacks the shield. the fact that it ignores shield is not really helpful unless the enemy is near death.

  • @pvlapa
    @pvlapa ปีที่แล้ว

    As it is, doing this on my phone takes around 5 hours a day on and off to complete everything. Adding a lobby may be what some other players wanted but personally I can't afford to play this anymore, time wise. I'll just check in again next year if the managed to shave down total playing time.

  • @TheJmorales1978
    @TheJmorales1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope it’s going to be good and the champ does not take forever to get. Excited for this as I’ve asked for it for so long.

  • @adwardyudin
    @adwardyudin ปีที่แล้ว

    There wasn't a date they provided for the update was there?

  • @gubi69
    @gubi69 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Duchess and other heavy buff heroes are done for? Having 5-6 buffs if you go as 2nd team he can more or less oneshot everyone.

  • @stubzero6672
    @stubzero6672 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe an unpopular opinion but I've never had any desire to do live arena, all I see is another daily time sink and I'm guessing the scheduled times will be either while I'm sleeping or working. I still find it a joke that plat reset happens at the exact same time every single week with no consideration that different time zones exist.

  • @ric01232001
    @ric01232001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so maxed areana points people get new ones to gather, not a use for old ones, fun........

  • @matthewzavala3096
    @matthewzavala3096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how they changed the pick phase to 1/2/2/2/2/1 instead of 1/1……. I use to play summoners war when they did live arena you can gear chanps just for that game mode would be cool if they did that here.

  • @elmickeyable
    @elmickeyable ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the fact that they made the PVE easier. The only thing that worries me is that I haven't noticed an overall ranking. I know I can't be first, but I would like to know where I stand in the rankings

  • @wolffcaleb1
    @wolffcaleb1 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's not a musician, he's a gladiator. Very cool!

  • @MrTyk3lton
    @MrTyk3lton ปีที่แล้ว

    See a lot of concern for this - however something nobody seems to have mentioned from what I can see is that you don't lose any points until you get to Silver 1 which means people everyone at some point should hit it giving them access to the rewards relatively easily. Unless i've heard/misinterpreted it at 09:40 in the video?

  • @chrisdunn833
    @chrisdunn833 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the elephant in the room. Max great hall and 35k unused medals. No mention of letting you trade those in.

  • @Made4Slaying
    @Made4Slaying ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking about the future of the game these buffs to great hall are going to push newer players far far behind, people will be grinding more mythic/higher tiered gear which will push the difficulty of gold live arena out of reach of the newer players thinking maybe a year from now etc, I’m worried for the future of raid…

  • @johnlewis7715
    @johnlewis7715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work from 5pm to 3 am most nights so I will probably only be able to hit it a couple times a week 😢