The best part is…no latency! Zero! Very cool! I still have my Roland VS-1824CD that I bought in the early 2000’s. Still working perfectly. It’s so nice having the faders and transport buttons.
cool and ya I just love recording with a multi track recorder and mine has served me well for many years I know for me as long as they keep making multi track recorders that will be the way I record my music.
@@alanmartin4780 it’s ok to export the tracks from your recorder to a daw, for mixing and small edits, considering you’re out of the recording phase. Going out the daw into a console, then back into the daw or a 2 track tape machine could be fun!
Thanks for that video, I really enjoyed seeing your set up. This is what the internet is great for in my opinion: people who are passionate about what they do and passing it on. I’ve been playing and writing songs for years but had almost given up trying to record because sitting in front of a computer was killing it for me. Then I learnt about going DAWless from people like you. I got myself a little Tascam 8track and honestly it’s been a revelation. I LOVE it! Thanks again for the vid man. ✌🏻
thanks for watching and the great comment and I am glad that my video helped and tascam makes great multi track recorders!. For me it is the only way to record as I hate using a DAW I am a keep it simple stupid kinnd of person and you can make great recording with a multi track recorder. And just FYI Jimi Hendrix recorded all his stuff on a 4 track multi track recorder that used tape back in the day.
Thank you for posting this. I'm a recording artist who is strictly old School. I have a Zoom R24 multi track recorder that I have been using since 2012. I use it to record all of my albums and have had no issues with it whatsoever. I love the simplicity of hardware recorders. My studio is DAW-less and all of my recordings have been nothing less than outstanding. Computers crash when things go wrong and the plug-ins just make the recording process difficult and sound artificial. I have been recording this way dating back to analog Tascam recorders and I prefer it that way. Again, thank you for posting this. Great minds think alike. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
thanks for the great comment and this is the only way I record as well I have no DAW in my studio as well. And I have been recording with a track recorder all my music career and I get great recording out of it as well. So it has been nice to see there are other's out there as well that like and appreciate it still as well.
Exactly no having to buy the next upgrade or version to keep your DAW running multi track recorders or a one time buy it learn it use it and you are good to go. And I believe they also will make you a better player as well just because of there more old school style when recording. I say that because I always play through the whole song when I record each part I do not record in pieces or sections. thanks for watching and the great comment.
Of course . Example : nothing can replace the radio in ur car , Internet doesn't really offer a better alternative. Analog is powerful and stable and simple and never stops
Great video! I have been recording with the same eight track Zoom MRS-802 digital multitracker since 2007. I still use it almost everyday and have recorded over eight albums worth of material on it. The biggest reason why I still use it is that I've become so familiar with it's functions that accessing all of it's features is second nature to me- which means I don't need to think of anything technical except for the music while I'm tracking a part. It also has never crashed or failed on me even once after all these years which is a big plus.
Awsome and ya that is why I still use mine as well because I know it so well and it has served me so well over the years thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.
Thanks Shawn. Good to know. I bought the same Zoom MRS802 years ago but never used it - just about to start now though so glad it’s a good piece of kit
I still have my Yamaha AW1600 and my Roland VS2400CD. I look after them well and they don’t give me any issues. Love these old stand alone digital recorders.
Back in the day, when I recorded my CD I used a Roland VS 1680. I did my recording exactly like Rocktalk101. I too am 'old school' and started on a 4 track tape deck. Since I got back into recording in the last few years, I have been using computer based DAWs. Most of the time, if I'm not fixing an issue (my God, the issues) of some sort, I'm sitting slack jawed and starry eyed in front of my computer staring at a bewildering array of plug-ins and effects and oh the possibilities are so endless that I don't actually DO anything. Another reviewer described Multitrackers as 'focused' and I agree. I spent 6 months going through plug-ins just to see what I had. The other thing I don't like about PC DAWs is all the....artificialness. I don't like click tracks. I don't like auto-tune. I don't like the temptation to just fix it in editing instead of becoming a better musician and getting the take right. My approach this time is real guitars plugged into real amps and real drums recorded with real microphones into a multitracker, with minimal editing and production.
thanks for this great comment and you covered so many reason's that are the same reasons I still record with a multi track recorder. And I like the fact that you pointed out the part about instead of just fixing it learn to be a better musician and get the take right which is so great that some other them myself understands that. As long as there will be multi track recorders being sold that is what I will use to record with. thanks for watching and commenting as well really appreciate it.
I hear you! I've been recording on a Roland vs1824 unit for years and I absolutely love that machine they're so sturdy and professional built like a tank anyway I have the same issues with my DAW..crashing, latency issues the BS just never ends!! I sold my old ROLAND XP 50 wish so bad I still had that keyboard anyway I'm looking into the zoom r24 I suppose.... I have the zoom live track but like I said those things are like toys compared to those ROLAND units
It took me too long to figure out it is quicker and better to have another go. Even with a multitracker I was still laying down a bunch of sloppy takes then taking hours stitching them together. My playing improved a lot when I stopped doing that!
thanks for the comment and watching the channel and I am glad it helped that is why I made the video in the first place to hopefully help the next person tryin gto figure out how to use a multi track recorder.
I have the Fostex VF-160. 16 Tracks simultaneously with the use of an ADA8000. Bought it new as a recording package from Musician's Friend back in 2002. Still going strong! Fostex made some great multi-tracking machines. The only thing we do different is, I dump all of the tracks to CD, and import them into protools and mix/master there. Great video man! Glad to see there are some old school multi-trackers still out there!
thanks appreciate the great comment and ya I tried the whole dump onto my computer and mix in a daw thing just didn't work for me. I like to keep it as simple as possible.
I agree. I’m old school too. I love how tactile MTRs are. I love the “hands on”. The sliders. The record/play/wind buttons. The track mute/play/record buttons. The gain controls. It’s what I liked about the old reel to reel recording studios, where recording was a craft, not just a lesson in software manipulation. Everyone’s telling I need to move over to Logic Pro, and I’ve tried both it, Cubase and Cakewalk, and hand on heart, I didn’t like any of them. It sounds kind of soulless. Everything’s done with plug ins. And (to me anyway) it’s overly technical and complex. With the MTR I’ve had a song’s worth of drums done, plus a bass and two guitar tracks in a day. A full week of fiddling about with a drums plug in on Logic and I still didn’t have a song’s worth of drums I was 100% happy with. My MTRs a Zoom R16. But I also have a Boss Micro BR80, which I use for quick, on the fly song idea capture. The finished sound with the Zoom though is superb, particularly the on board mastering settings. I’ve used a live drum kit, an Alesis electronic kit and an Alesis SR16 drum machine. All easy to do (though the drum machine is far less disturbing to the neighbours!). You’re right. They’re so easy. Plus, you can pick up the zoom R16, put a hand full of batteries in it, take it to rehearsal and record the entire band! You can’t to that with a DAW. Great video and thanks for letting me know I’m not the only one who prefers these over DAWs.
thanks for watching the video and you are not the only old school recording guy out there and for me as long as they make multi track recorders that is how I will record. I to do not like D.A.W.S and I do not like plug ins and I agree using those makes the music sound soul less for sure. I use real drums or my Alesis SR18 for recording drums as well. I have been looking into getting the zoom R16 as well seems like a great unit.
It is your preference. I can be better&faster(10x) with DAW than with portable multitrack recorder. And i don't know how to make some manipulation on portable multitrack recorder.
Back in 1993, I bought an Ensoniq ASR-10 and, in 1995, began recording its tracks onto cassettes, using a Tascam 4-track Portastudio. Put out a couple of album's worth of recordings that way and, since it was digital-to-analog, the sound was pristene.
@@user-cg4wp1im1r yes, it’s all personal preference. I agree (having used DAWs) that it can be faster using DAW, but I’d suggest “better” is subjective as it depends entirely on the end sound you are hoping to achieve. The stuff I’ve done with cubase, Logic and cakewalk all sounded over polished/pristine, even superficial and over produced (I liken it to the recording equivalent of plastic surgery!😅). The stuff I’ve done on the MTRs, has more warmth, depth, spontaneity and “liveness” to it, as it is definitely more difficult to manipulate or post record rectify the recorded tracks (other than put the signal through effects/modelling etc). I’m not saying I won’t ever use DAW again, but my first preference is definitely the “hands on” of the MTR. But all that matters ultimately, is we keep making music - however we can and however it makes us happy.
thanks for watching and check out sweetwater.com for multi track recorders they have some great tascam and zoom one forsale that are not to expensive at all. also not sure if ebay is a thing for you guys over there but you can find my exact recorder that I am using on there used sometimes as well as others like it. also reverb.com is another great place to look as well.
I'm an "old-school" studio artist myself...I started my journey with a Fostex MR-8, went through a couple of those, an MR-16 like yours, then on to Tascam's 24-tracks (2488, MkII, then Neo). But all for the very same reasons you do. I've TRIED several DAW/computer-based recording solutions - even the easy-to-use ones like Gar/Band - but I like the hardware approach, and like you, am unlikely to depart from it, as long as I'm able to make music! Am just recently discovering how many people are like me in the DAW vs H/ware debate, so now I don't feel like such a dinosaur. And I make a pretty decent recording too...
glad to know there a few of us still out there that still like to use track recorder's. I will keep on using one as long as they still exist as I really do not like using daw's on computers at all.
Great video! We are a couple of old school guys as well. We live in different states and use two TASCAM DP-32's to record our original music by sending SD cards back and forth (I said we were old school) then we post it on our TH-cam channel. We do it for fun and keeping our friendship alive despite the miles between us.
nice video, I was given the Tascam 2488MKii digital portastudio for free. It had a few issues, but nothing that a cheap can of contact cleaner couldn't fix. It now works perectly with no issues. For a 24 track recorder it sounds really great. Happy recording.
awsome I am actually planning on getting the new tascam 24 track recorder in the near future just have an extra one around I also use the zoom H4n pro 4 track hand held recorder for a lot of stuff it is were IUsually start recording ideas for songs and putting them together.
Great recorder. I've been using the Fostex vf160 16 track recorder for years. It's probably going on 20 years old now but it still works great. Rock on brother!
I still have my old gear. My BR-900 to me still has some nice effects. I am recreating my set -up to include inputs from my 4-track tape (!), old pedals and almost-analog stuff. The overall sound is just different, like records to mp3. Thank you for posting this for the ideas for this.
awsome and thanks for watching and 4 track tape I remember those days for sure I used to have a multi 4 track recoder that used cassette tapes to record those were the good old days for sure!
Hi bro’…Doc here again..👍🎸🎤🎩😎.. I finally got the Multitrack sussed..After much deliberation..swearing, ranting & raving..& as you suggested..th3 manual..I went through all the steps again..& no record to Cd???..I saw the USB host drive on the back of the MR16..plugged one of my independent Cd writer recorders in the back of the host..went back to burn Cd!!..& BOOM…It started to burn..🔥🔥🔥..checked the TOC & yep.. the track was on Cd..so repeated the steps..burnt all my tracks onto Cd..😎👍..So success at last..The trouble was with my Cd writer burner..replaced the internal Cd writer with a new one..😎💪👍..Sweet az..We’re Rockin & Rollin..thanks for all you help bro..very much appreciated..When ya got your “Patreon up & running ..I’ll happily bounce you some wickedly deserved 💰💰💰..Keep On Rockin bro”..Doccin Surfers Paradise..Gold Coast, Qld Australia Downunder..Cheeeeeehhuuuuuuuu
Up until 2000 I used a Fostex DMT8 v2 MIDI Timecode sync'd to an Atari 1040STE with 4MB RAM, and that was running Steinberg Cubase. That was controlling two Yamaha MU100R rack synth modules, that had a vocal harmoniser and virtual wind/string boards. They both had a combined total of four audio inputs, fully controllable by MIDI and had multiple FX processors assigned internally to those inputs. I had a virtual mixer in Cubase and so I could fully automate the mix of the Fostex digital multitrack recorder, by having the track outputs go into the Yamaha MU100R synth audio inputs. There was very little that setup could not do, that my modern PC DAW does now, and it was bullet proof for reliability and ease of use. Once the mix was ready to master, I would record it to my Fostex D5 DAT recorder, and from that to a standalone CD recorder.
Enjoyed video. I have a Boss BR-800. Just getting started. Timing is key on this all-in-ones. You have to be able to play to click track (or drums) because you can't move or stretch or process as easily as you can on a PC - which is a good thing. I confess, recording I have K.I.S.S. turn out the best.
Great video Rocktalk101. Reading all the comments under this video makes me feel justified in my recent decision to go back to using a multi track recorder. I started with a Yamaha MT50 four track tape machine before graduating up to a Fostex DMT8 VL digital recorder with the analogue mixer. I did some of my best recordings on that machine. I moved into computer music with Reason and Cakewalk rewired and I made quite a few albums that way, and I admit that those tracks still make money for me to this day, but they don't have the warmth of the multi track recordings from the hardware. Running a hybrid set up of an analogue studio with hardware analogue synths, drum machines etc going through an analogue desk into Logic is a lot more closer, and I have been happy with the results, but I am now decided to get a digital recorder as an alternative or companion to using a DAW. With computers and DAWs they are always being upgraded so you end up having to buy a new computer when your old one no longer is compatible to the software. I just wasted money on another Mac just to find out if I want to put Logic on it I would have to upgrade as the version that I have on my main Mac is old as I turned off automatic updates on my computer. I'm off to purchase a Tascam DP32SD right now and get back to the old school workflow.
first thanks for watching the video and I am glad this video has made you feel more justified in your decision to go back to a multitrack recording system. I have always recorded with a multitrack since back in the day when I had a 4 track that used a tape. I messed around with a computer DAW but I just did not like it at all and like you said with all the update's glitches that can come with them as well as it cause your computer to freeze up or crash from time to time as some other's have said I just find it not to be as good as using a multi track recorder. So for me I will us a multitrack recorder for as long as they keep making them.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it and I agree with you. Having a multi track recorder is essential. I've just come back from paying down on the Tascam DP32SD, and a Yamaha MT120 that had just come into the shop. That means I will have had the 50, the 100 and now the 120. I need a four track to play my old tapes and to record and get that four track demo sound. I will pick them up at the end of the month. For me being free of the CPU limitations and the upgrade rubbish just makes it worthwhile
I worked like this for many years but with a Roland digital 24 track workstation. It was able to output to a monitor and be controlled by mouse and keyboard. I had it synced to an ancient Atari with Cubase and an Akai sampler. If I was still in a full band I might still be using it. When my partner in music and life and I dissolved the band but wanted to continue making music I started experimenting with Garageband which came free with my Macbook Pro. Have to say, 3 years later that I’d never go back to my old school set up. I cant imagine sacrificing the level of control and graphic clarity I have now. I have a couple of nice little interfaces, Logic Pro on a new Macbook and a selection of soft instruments like Ezdrummer. I still record my tube guitar via a miked tube amp though. I’ve never had major latency problems.
Thanks for the comment but fo rme I just love using multi track recorders it has worked great for me my whole music career and does everything I need it to do. I am a keep it simple stupid kind of guy and this for me is just perfect.
Coming from a similar background recording on cassette 4-track, I have to say that I like both I like to use physical machines but I have so much flexibility on the computer! I myself am working a series of TH-cam videos on getting professional products (music and video) using older equipment!
thanks for the comment and watching the video and awsome that you like using both nothing wrong with that at all . And good luck on the youtube videos as well.
Love it! Great guitar tone. If you got good outboard, no need for plug-in compatibility; they're just watered down algorithms of the _real_ thing. The DAW is a remarkable innovation but I think to some degree it's not bringing out the best in musicians and may impede many up & comers from mastering their instrument. I just hope it's not desensitizing future music fans with bionic simulated perfection. I switched over to HD recording with _Emagic_ around 2001, for doing film scores and soundtrack work. Due to improvement of my workflow, my creativity gradually began to descend into "potboiler" category. When I finally decided to release a new album a decade ago, I set up the old _XT 20 ADAT_ machines and mackie board, probably last time _anyone_ on the planet has tracked on SVHS lol. The increased difficulty of navigating old tech apparently reinvigorated my mojo. I firmly believe adversity is the _best_ fuel for artistic inspiration and I'm afraid DAW recording may be taking something from the art.
thanks you for the great comment and very well said and I could not agree more. As I have said in other comments for me recording with my multitrack recorder makes me a better player as I play my songs and parts all the way through when I record instead of this record a section and just cut and past. I do not know how many recording sessions I have seen where the band records an album just doing it in bits and pieces and then putting the song together and after it si all done then they ahve to go learn how to actually play the songs they just recorded. Which they should have already know how to play before the start of recording. My old band we would record ideas and stuff and then take those ideas and put them into songs then learn the songs we wrote and then after we had them down tight then would would go record them not the other way around.
I have a BR 1600 CD and it’s deep. I downloaded a disc for an update from Boss. I also have a iPad Pro with a few different DAWs and they can be a headache. Thanks for your channel.
To Michael.. I also have a Boss BR16, I am very familiar with it, I don't know how long you had your machine but if you have any questions feel free to contact me. Also.. Can you reply with some information or how to get update disc ?
While the daw world is dealing with computer freezes, crashes, lost data, software upgrades, OS updates, viruses, new software learning curve, outdated hardware, new laptop… the multitrack standalone musician is creating laying down tracks same as it was then and now. Btw slaving everything to the recorders midi out is unheard of these days.
thanks for the great comment and it is so funny the comments I get on people that never new multi track recorders even existed and still exist. On top of those that are going back to the multi track recorder over there daw as well. I personally will always record with a multi track recorder as I always have as long as they exist. and I will make sure to have a few extra around so I always can lol!
Good to know I'm not the only old school weirdo who doesn't record on a computer! I prefer my Yamaha AW1600. Why? Because with a DAW and the endless plugin options, there are WAY TOO MANY choices to make. I know my workflow very well now, so when I record, it's quick & easy. Sometimes it's good to have limits!
I don't thing we are the weirdo's I think we are the smart ones lol! and ya DAW can be over whelming and it also causes you to not be as good of a player in my opinion because you can just always fix everything in post. Some of the best songs and albums out there actually have mistakes in them that turned out to be great mistakes that made the song or the album. Now they want to time a line everything and fix every little thing and most new music sounds like a damn robot is playing it in my opinion. There is something to be said for keeping it simple. thanks fo rthe great comment.
awsome! and I have been looking at getting the tascam 24 or 36 as an upgrade to the fostex that I have been using for so many years but the one thing I love about my fostex is it can actually mix master and burn a CD for me so it is a great all in one for me.
A good video, thank you! I prefer using multi-trackers too. I have the Tascam 32SD, but before I bought that I bought the Tascam DP08EX which is very affordable with good quality sound, but not enough tracks for me, hence upgrading to the 32SD. I do still use the 8 track for "musical sketches". Whenever people start talking about home recording they usually say "get a DAW" which I think is very narrow-minded. You can record some excellent tracks using multi-trackers, the sound quality has improved greatly and they are a lot easier to use. Also, they are very "musical" in the respect you end up recording tracks all the way through and get better at playing whatever instrument you play, instead of getting lazy and recording in bits and pieces which I found I used to do when I used the old Steinberg Pro 24 on the Atari (yes, that's going back some!).
I could not agree more with you on all these things I will never use a DAW as long as there are multi track recorder's available to use. And yes the DAW has made people lazy and and yes recording and playing your songs all the way through will definitely make you a better musician hands down and that is just one of the many reasons I like using a multi track recorder as well as I feel you get a better recording as well but that is just me I am old school and I love using my DAW and I do not have to worry about paying for new updates for it or it crashing on me or any of the other crap that happens and come using a DAW. thanks for the great comment and watching the channel.
@@Rocktalk101 Thank you! I know I have become a much better musician since going down the multi-tracker route! Some examples are on my TH-cam channel, but I feel like I'm just beginning! Hopefully one day I might "get somewhere", but to me it's the journey that's fun. 👍👍
well if you listen to the song memory by silverflow featuring tammy smith on my channel that was recorded with my 16 track recorder it is also the song you first here when you go to my home page. SO check it out and then you can tell me what you think. I also have some new songs that will be getting released soon that will have been recorded with it as well. you will be able to find them on this site and silverflows band site as well.
I still have my Korg D1600 but now I use an MPC One because I got fed up with the linear multitrack paradigm after 40 years. I like the freedom of recording each section of a song and being able to swap them around or try adding a pre-chorus or whatever and if I don't like it I can just leave it out - much easier than editing it in and then having to delete it. It's also a lot of fun to sample my playing and chop it up and come up with things that I wouldn't have come up with otherwise. The disadvantage with the One is no mic preamps but I could use a USB audio interface with it if I needed multiple mic preamps. As I don't need that I use an ART Voice Channel for mono tracks. I've gone back to the way I used to record on my Tascam 244 so I record with EQ and compression. It's a much quicker way to record and prevents me second guessing my decisions.
I just bought the Fostex-mr16 as want to start doing voice-overs and a pod cast program. I would like to see you demonstrate how to actually burn a cd from something you have recorded. This is all new to me and just a little confusing. I can get the voice recorded but haven't been able to get the info to the cdr. But I believe that I will love this unit once I get a handle on how to use it.
I love the multitrackers.It's a shame they don't do MIDI on the new ones otherwise I'd get a new one. I have a Zoom MRS108 which was fitted with a Flash Drive.You have a great way of explaining your workflow.Thanks
thanks for watchin the channel and the great comment appreciate that. I have been recordin gon my Fostex MR16 for many years and love it. I tried DAW route and hated it I am a keep it simple stupid kind of person and using a muti rack recorder is just simple and easy to me.
Honestly I love this DAW less workflow. Looks so cool and is super fast. Use alot of hardware when tracking into cubase or pro tools but this jist as good
thanks for the comment and yes I think it is just as good as any daw or pro tools stuff and for me it is a lot easier and faster to use. I have had this particular unit for many many years since 2005 or 2006 and it has been serving me well. thanks for watching the channel appreciate it.
Kool stuff man. What would be your favorite strategy for recording vocals ?. . what preamps of special equipment? and how do you do the mastering ? Congrats and Greetings form El Paso Tx
Ok I do not use any pre amps at all and My recorder has built in EQ which I use a standard setting on it which is one of the pre programed one though you can change it how ever you like. No special equipment either I use an MXL condencer mic and run it through my vocalist live 4 which is a vocal processor I have owned for many years. then straight into the recorder line 1. ad some reverb adjust the volumes and let er rip. I will also us a sure SM48 cardioid mic as well when layering the vocals together. as far as mixing and mastering my recorder is set up to do that so all I have to do is set the mix levels were I like them then hit the master button and it does the rest. if you go to my play list and look up music videos all the ones from the band silverflow which is my band were done with this recorder so you can check them out and hear how it sounds when finished. hope that helps and thanks for watching have not been down to El Paso keep rocking!
@@Rocktalk101 . . . The Digitech Vocalist Live 4 pedal that you mention helps for sure . . I have a Live 2 and it has a very good sounding preamp, the vocals improve for real. In regards to the mastering I didn´t know it uses a "master button" so there´s the function. I used to have an Alesis Masterlink I belive was the name and it was Ok to finalize the mix. Thanks for your response and greetings.
@@jeffokriya3389 yes on this particular model there is a mastering button once you get your levels and mix how you like it all you have to do is hit the master and finalize button and it is done. and the best part is if you do not like it you can go back and fix things and do it over which is really nice.
I nearly bought another standalone digital multitrack back in 2021. It was the legendary Yamaha AW4416 and it was local for a very cheap price. Like a lot of old gear, it would likely need some work to replace ageing or failing components, moving faders and backlit displays etc.
thanks for all the great commentts for me like I have said I will always use a track recorder for recording as they are just easy to use at least for me they are and rock solid reliable and I just enjoy using them more then a DAW. We all have are preferences this just happens to be mine.
@@Rocktalk101 Yeah even though I fully understand PC setups, all that staring at screens etc just kills my creativity and spontaneous jams. I bought myself an old Yamaha QS300 keyboard workstation in 2021 for next to nothing, and it sounds great, has a sophisticated but simple to use sequencer, lots of tactile buttons and sliders. Within seconds of switching on, I can be jamming away and recording. Then two button pushes and all backed up. Even back with my old Fostex setup and Atari Cubase, I spent more time using the controls of the Fostex, only occasionally glancing at the computer to check stuff. My PC setup I have to strain my eyes looking at tiny plugin windows, and fiddling with stupid mouse or laptop trackpads. The playback/recording control transport gets lost under other windows. I had none of those aggravating issues with the Fostex way of working! Old school is best!
@@EgoShredder yep those are just a few of the issues I had as well with a daw searching for stuff losing it under another window I hared using a mouse or the touch pad to do things. Much easier and more satisfying to push a fader up and down with your hand then a mouse in my opinion. Like I said I will always record this way.
I hate using a computer to make music. I have a DAW that I actually like but I hate dealing with all the problems/issue that come with computers like latency, updates, RAM, etc. Quick question how do you like using that Alesis drum machine? I’ve been thinking about getting one.
Ya that is just some of the reasons I still like using my 16 track recorder I do not have to dealwith all the issues that come with using a DAW on the computer. And I love using my Alesis SR18 once you get the hang of how to use it and create your on drum tracks it is a blast to use and works create I use it for live solo shows as well because I can program full songs drum fills crash and all that good stuff and create full songs from start to fish and then at just a touch of a foot switch start them and then it will end on its own when the song is at the end just like having a real drummer play with you. it take a little bit to learn but is well worth it in the end and there are some grea youtube videos out there on it that will help you figure it out faster then if you ae just rying to learn it through the manual. I highly recommend it as a drum machine to get.
Cool demo! Does this version have side chain? I'm looking at getting this or the R20 in New Zealand once I move there from South Australia. Using the MPC for now but it's too heavy for only two inputs.
yes it has phantom power for mic recording it also has on board setting to change the style of mic recording if you only have one kind of mic I.E. dynamic/condensor etc: You can use any type of mic you want with it. if you want to hear some full recording just watch my music videos I have released this past year with my band name silverflow and you can hear exactly how it sounds with a full mix recording.
Tascam did skiped the midiport on DP-24/32 SD, and i miss it,..to be able to sync a drum maschine, nither have zoom any midiport,..for shure i love the way you do it, i started in the 90's at a Fostex x-26,...then a Tascam 244, then Fostex XR-7,..then Fostex DMT-8vl,...and a couple of Zoom's MRS-4 and MRS-8,...Today i use TEAC-3340s Reel2Reel,..Tascam DP-32SD, and a Zoom R8,..and i love it. Computers naah,...use them too,..but love the oldskool way i got a kick of it to get out on a track full of good happy accidents and comitments,..Thanks man for shareing
@@Rocktalk101 Hi =) i have a Q about how you record your guitars/Bass? Do you record direct from mic/D.I thru Amp and pedals in to a track, and so to speak record direct to track and commit, Or do you record one channel Amp/Pedals, and a dry channel to mix both later?,..One Q more is do you compress the signal before or after the Pedals,..on the way into track.? Thanks dear friend
@@aftertheendtimes So I always record the drums first and that is direct in from my drum machine after I have created the drum tracks. then I direct line record my guitar parts straight from either an amp with direct line out or I use my boss GT-1000 direct line out straight into the multi track recorder. every think is recorded on separate tracks and then EQ leveled mixed and mastered it gets compressed during the mastering phase which the track recorder does automatically when mastering the final track.\hope that helps.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks a ton dear, Always learning from others, and it is fun to ask someone like you that has a fot still in the oldskool way of recording like me, cos All new producers talk DAW, a ton of vst's and ruels that includes dry tracks on guitar and bass aka clean D.I and then the effected channel with compressors, dist, effected, and a lot of editting,..I feel that it kills the in the moment feeling and live feel, it is not autentic,..real, once again thanks for anwering me,
@@aftertheendtimes anytime and feel free to ask me anything if I can answer and help I will. I am very old school when it comes to recording all this new stuff is just way to much over kill. and I agree you loose the feel and flow in the moment with all this time a lined crap and all this extra editing. some of the best music recorded was done on small 4 tracks that using to use tap back in the day you got 1 or 2 takes to get it right. Jimmy hendrix himself recorded everything he ever did on a 4 track recorder. there is an old saying just because you can do it does not mean you should and for me less is more. thanks for watching the channel and appreciate the questions and comments.
I've been on both sides of the track. I started with a Zoom MRS 1044. I must confess, using a DAW on my computer is a tad bit easier; but I do miss messing with the faders physically.
ya for me using a multi track is easier and I enjoy it more but I will say what ever or which ever works best for you is what you should use. I ma not against a DAW I just prefer a multi track recorder instead.
your right. i dont understand why more people dont use these for production. plus , with multitrackers , you can input any source you want and then track out that way. im even thinking on using my android tablet with minimal daw apps and drums , then just track into the recorder, and only use the tablet for loop time .
tascam all my life and i'm 52 been using them for the past 35 years im currently using two different tascams now a neo 24 track and i just bought the sd24
awsome! I am 53 been using tascam and fostex multi track recorders all my life. I am planning on getting the tascam 24 trackk myself here soon as well. thanks for watching and the great comment.
Hi just come across this video. I started with a little 4 track tape machine, then bought the MD 8 track and used that twice, then the Yamaha AW16G came out. I still have the Yamaha AW16G which I bought late 90s I think. I recorded about 30 40 songs using intrumental (Karaoke) tracks so really I just had to add vocals. I got so damm frustrated with Compression that I eventually gave up and untill now the 16 track stayed in the box. I'm once again trying to get my head around the compression. I think all multi track recorders are more or less the same. Could you possibly do a video on how you are compressing vocals? and what Pre Amp do you use? I'm currently using the Art Studio V3 preamp. It would be amazing if you could share your compressing knowledge. Please. Thank You in advance for any advice. (At the time I bought the Yamaha 16G there was no videos on youtude like there are now.)
ok so as far as pre amps I run my vocal through a vocalist live 4 vocal processor then straight into the recorder imput than as far as the compression on my recorder there is a standard compresion setting that you can use so I just have that on with the stock settings that my recorder came with. Fairly siimple and straight foward for me hense why I really like my 16 track recorder. I am a keep it simple stupid guy and that is how I try and record thigns as well as simple as I can.
😅 Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge! I am looking at buying a Boss BR1200 cause its close to my country town. Im a 60s model and using a DAW and computer is not a option. I'm only a solo player and after 45 years of playing i haven't got any of my own songs recorded. Could you please tell me what you think about the boss br1200. It's importantly got the CD Burner in it. So glad I found you on utube!! Thanks from a land down under
So I do nor know anything about the br1200 but boss makes great products and I use a lot of boss stuff. the fact it has the CD burner is a definite plus.
I'm still working oldskool as well and I'm annoyed how many new electronic instruments lose many functions (even basic ones) if you don't hook them up to a computer. I don't want to sit behind a computer when making music! Using a Zoom HD16 which I put an SSD in.
it is always nice the hear about other's that still like to record old school as well and I agree it is annoying that it seems like everything new coming out has to be hooked up to the computer to get its full function out of it. Thanks for the comment and watching the channel.
awson I have had a zoom Q2 I have used for years as well as my muti track recorder and now I am using the Zoom Q8n for all my videos and I am really enjoying using it as well.
@@Rocktalk101 But on all these recorders, wouldn't you want to at least import to Audacity t (or whatever DAW) to polish up parts, remove bad notes, shrink down level on certain parts, fade out/in etc...etc... or is this possible with what you have?
@@Blueguitar007 I can do all of that with this recorder and then some! this will do everything a DAW will do except be able to downlaod different type of plug ins. But as far as fixing notes and stuff like that what I do is record 3 or for tracks of each part and take the best of those playing the song all the way through. that is how they used to have to do it with the old reel to reel tape and it makes you a better player as well as really get food at playing your songs or what ever song you are recording. and it foes not really rake any more work in the long run because going back and editing and punching in and out parts to fix mistakes can actually end up taking you more time in the long run. Well that is at least how it works with me anyway.
I started doing “sound on sound” recordings till I got a Tascam Porta One in 1987…. Then I got a Tascam 688 MKII MIDI….. then VS-890…… then moved to DAW based recording (Steinberg Cubase) in 1998. Today I still use a DAW (Cubase Pro 12) and my iPad Pro (Cubasis)….. I still have my Tascam Porta One and Roland VS-890….. what I added to my DAW is a Alesis ADAT XT that is sync’ed to my DAW….. I like how quick I can get my tracks down and edit them on a DAW compared to a stand alone unit…… everyone has their own preference……
yep they do but I can record just as fast on my stand alone unit as I can with a daw or at least that has been the experience for me I feel my stand alone unit is just easier and simple to use and has worked for me for many years but ya everyone has what they like and do not like for sure.
@@Rocktalk101 The main issue with using a DAW is that some people get caught up with all the options that are available for you to record to the point that they are not getting any recording done. Trust me, I was one of them. You don't get side tracked with the visuals when working with a stand alone unit.
@@Rocktalk101 Think I will bring out my Roland VS-890 and see what I can come up with..... I can midi sync my laptop with EZDrummer 3 for drums since I sold my Boss 550 MK II drum machine a few years back..... Great video.....
@@Bernz66 I have several different drum machines I use for recording drums. My Alesis SR18 is amazing but just got this new boss drum and looper pedal that has just been great to work with have recorded a few songs with it already it has really impressed me so far.
What is it about the fader - you can't beat it for control. I used a Boss 800 for many years - and have recently switched to Tascam DP 32. Great clip - well done
thanks for the great comment and watching the channel and I have been looking at the tascam 24 or the DP-32 for awhile now going to get one or the other soon Just to have another one and a newer version multi track recorder before they stop making them all together which I hope never happens.
Yes I am still DAW-less I will always record on a multi track recorder as long as the exist. I got my CD duplicator from musicians friend years ago can't rememebr the brand name at the mment but they have several or did on there site back when I bought mine. And yes they are very practtical if you are going to be making a duplicating your own CD's rather then sending them out to get mass produced. I use to do all my label and logo printing on my CD's as well as mass producing them all in house for many years. and I still make C.D.s of my original music for people that want it in house hense why I have a CD burner in the first place. But with all the new tech out there you can send your stuff out to companies now that will do all the art work and everything for a good price so you have to decide which way you really want to go when procing your CD's
@@Rocktalk101 I see… and is there still a market for CD’s as regards your music fans? Do they tend to fall into a particular age demographic? Also… I’m looking to get an all-in-one self-contained unit like your Fostex but perhaps 24-track. Any recommendations?
@@MrSeeker42 the tascam 24 track is what I would get if it was me as that is the one I plan on buying next for myself as well but none of the newer ones have CD burners built in anymore you will have to download your music to your computer and then get an external CD burner for your computer if it does not have a built in one and then you can burn the master then pop it into the cd duplicator and make copies. as far as my music fans they get all my songs off of itunes spotify and all the other streaming services out there these days. I still keep my CD duplicator and all the other stuff to make a professional C.D. just in case someone actually ask's for a C.D. and also to burn C'D's for promo packs for giving to venues to get gigs in clubs as they want to see and here your songs and if you have a professional looking and sounding C.D. in the promo pack that goes a long way to getting the gigs. As far as age groups I have had people of all ages at my gigs if you write a good song and are a good live performer I feel you can bridge age gaps when it come to good music.
@@Rocktalk101 thank you for sharing from your experience as well as your recommendation. Nowadays It’s strange promoting something without being able to give a physical media. It sort of loses its value by being completely virtual. We’re you thinking about the Tascam 2488 or a more recent model?
@@MrSeeker42 the TASCAM DP-24SD 24-track Digital Portastudio is the one I was talking about. and yes I think it sucks that everything virtual and for me I still like a good old CD in my hands. I will always be old school when it comes to music I like a good real amp Orange being my favorites none of this plug in crap my boss GT-1000 or some good ol stomp box pedals and my MR16 track recorder and I am off and recording!. and all this everything ahs to be time allined perfectly stuff is crap to! sounds like a bunch of AI robots playing music no groove and no soul. But that is just my opinion.
I watched this just to see what you had to say about multitrack vs. DAW/computer. And not only do you use an MR16 like mine, but your drum machine is an Alesis as well. Mine is an Alesis SR-16. And I love both of my machines
Awsome and a great combo to have for recording or playing live, I went back and forth on if I should get the 16 or 18 but just said the hell with it and went with the 18. Both are great drum machines in my opinion. thanks for watching the channel and the great comment I appreciate it.
Great video. Learned some new things. Question is how do you transfer the data? Can the MR 16 transfer the master track to a thumb drive or computer or other device? Or is it limited to just burning them on the internal cd burner? These days hardly anybody uses cds anymore. And transfering cd tracks to a computer and then sending the files through email has always been a challenge for me. Could you do a video on transferring the tracks to an external source if there are any so we can send tracks over the internet? Thanks
it can and does transefer files or your master track/song to a computer Via a usb cord all you do is plug it in and follow the promps to transfer your files to the computer that is how I get all my stuff out on the streaming services. But I also can burn an actual CD aas well if I choose and I do do as well to keep on file or make duplicates to give to people. this spacific recorder is very easy ro use and I have been recording song on it for many years. If you go to my play list and look up music videos you can hear how a final song sounds and comes out as I have several music videos I have released .
@@Rocktalk101 Yes. I've had my MR16 since 2014 & I've done many CDs and mixes on it but never got far enough along in the manual to the wav file section. I'm still using Windows XP(pro) so I was glad to see it's compatible and I'll soon be transferring my files cuz I need to get into streaming and sharing these tracks with my clients and students. I believe I'll still have to download a driver or file program from fostex to make it work. Is that correct? I've still got a lot to learn. I'll check out your other videos. Thanks.
@@bobbycottonwood000 So you are going to need a spacific cable that has the USB conection on one end and then the conection that hooks into the MR16 so look were it plugs into there and make sure you get tthe right conection. I was able to find the right cable at walmart so should be easy to ge one. Second get your manual out and go to the section that tell you how to export your riles to a computer it will walk you right through what you need to do to make it happen. Now if I remember correctly I think I did have to go to the fostex website and down load the right driver to my computer so yes you may have to do that but I do remember it was easy to find and download. I will try and make a video on how this process works as well in the near future. And it is nice to hhave a fellow MR16 guy out there. I will also say I am still earning all kinds of things it is capable of but I try and keep my recording simple and straight foward as well. if you have anymore questions are ever need help do not hasitate to reach out and I will try and help the best I can. that is litterly why I make videos in the first place is to try and help others as best I can with what I know.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks for your help and thanks for your videos. I'll let you know how it turns out. I studied recording engineering at a local college for 3 semesters in 2012 & 13. We started out using pro tools but I felt like I was way over my head. Overall I did very well on the course but pro tools was my biggest challenge. My guitar player turned me on to the MR16 in 2014 but he didn't know anymore than we did but that was when CDs were still king. I had an akai dps12 for several years before. (& Still have it. The hard drive was limited so I switched it out and doubled the memory). But I wound up having to take it to the college studio and dumped the tracks on their daw and made CDs that way. It was more complicated and time consuming b'cuz I had to transfer the tracks in real time. So I'm glad I found the Fostex and have been using it since for all sorts of projects.
@@bobbycottonwood000 ya I am a keep it simple kind of guy and DAW especially freaking pro tools get way to complicated. Jimi Hendrix recorded all his stuff on a 4 track tape recorder. Recodring does not have to be complicated people just make it that way. And me personally if you start time alining everything and trying to make it perfect then you loose the emotion and the soul of the song or album abd things staart to sound robotic. But that is just my opinion. And if you took songs that were recorded back in the 70's 80's and 90's and shoved them into pro tools they would sound a lot different actually like shit lol! I love the fact I can just plug this thing in adjust my settings hit the record button and off I go! back in the day bands played the whole song all the way through the did 3 or 4 takes and kept the best take and that was it, Now with things like pro tools the record parts of songs or a riff and then cut and past or copy and past to creat a song and then do all that other editing stuff. Then the band has to learn the damn song they pieced together which is just crazy to me.
Could not agree more as I am a keep it simple stupid kind of guy I will keep using a mulit track recorder for as long as they keep making them. thanks for your comment and watching the channel.
Thank you, for the presentation. With regards to drum machines, presently most new models seem to be built around analogue classics. I am interested in a model that can handle regular pop/rock genres besides those analogue sounds. 2. Preferably it should also have song mode so I can sequence the different patterns into a song. Your suggestions are much appreciated. Tq.
I use the Alesis SR18 Portable Electronic Drum Machine With Effects and I highly recommend it as you can create any drum patterns you want and sequence them all together any way you want with drum fill's cymbal crashes ETC: it has a litl bit of a learningcurve but once you get it you will love it. there are several video's on line about it as well.
I see a lot of love for the korg KR55 PRO from people who want those features (beware there is no midi unfortunately and that part doesnt get any love). The drums sound like the Korg trinity which i have done amazing drum tracks with. Tip: run digital drums thru tech 21 Bass Driver DI you will be amazed.
recorded my first band's first album on this thing back in like 2002 ish i used to take it to each musicians house and record their part lol there were like 8 of us what a nightmare hahaha
@curtis roberson Same here, I have the OG Tascam DP-24 with MIDI and CD! When I first bought it back in the day you were the first person I saw on TH-cam with it!
My big challenge is ......getting afinal finished product that not only sounds good in earbuds or headphones, but also on a house stereo or car stereo ........... I usually can only get a mix that sounds good on ONE thing only not all of them . Its almost like the mix needs to be done using whatever it will most be listend to on.
well I will tell you I have burn many a CD and ran out to my truck to listen to it then came back in the studio and changed a few things and did it again. I have gotten to the point now though with my recorder that I knid of have it figured out but it is all trial and error my friend but you will get it just keep plugging away.
I don't use cds at all anymore, but I don't like using a daw very much at all. Does this device have an SD card drive or USB drive that you can record songs to or do you have to record to cd?
I must have got my MR-16HD in 2008 or so. Many versions of these …MR-8’s have 8 virtual tracks, 2 inputs, mk2 MR-8’s have an onboard microphone (not sure how the quality would be …MR-16 has]d many versions …the standard version had like 2gb of memory, MR-16CD had cd drive like yours, MR-16HD has 40gb hard drive, I’m sure there was a “both version” with the CD and hard drive. I’m sure if one could find a version lacking any of these feature one could add a hard drive or CD burner.
Some push buttons have broken on mine, but I’ve fixed them. Still going solid. Other Fostex recorders that came before were the Fostex VF-160 and VF-80 …which I’ve seen in pawn shops and such ….looking around the manuals I’m sure they were released in 2004-2007ish. They have effects but lack the USB connectivity.
I have a korg d3200. When I turn it on its ready to go. Ive used computers but it takes to much time to keep up on matenance and also latency problems. Id rather go the korg and focus on making music.
awsome and ya I agree and am the same way all I do is turn it on adjust sound levels and start making music. I am a keep it simple stupid guy and I love using a track recorder to record my songs it is what works best for me. thanks for watching and the great comment.
The only issue is when in breakadown.... hard to find parts to repair them. I used Boss BR1800n 900CD. n only last Month I had to let go the 900CD due to no more motherboard available. 😝
Yes I am a fellow fisherman I actually have another youtube channel called bravobassin that is an outdoors channel that has fishing shooting hunting and reviews of fishing gear, guns, knives, axes, kayaks and all kinds of other outdoor gear. Basically it is all the outdoor stuff I like to do. I have a lot of great fishing videos on the channel so check it out if you are interrested adn do me a favor anf hit the subscribe but on that channel as well if you would not mind, i would appreciate it for sure. thanks for watching thie channel and for the comments.
@@Rocktalk101 cool I'll definitely check it out. Besides my dog my two favorite things in the world are most definitely playing music and fishing. And it takes up 2/3 of my TH-cam watching for sure. The other third is probably aliens and nephilim's lmao 🤣 with a splash of Bigfoot thrown in usually.
@@JasonCarrara Ya I love to fish I used to be sponsored to fish and I used to compete in kayak fishing tournaments many years ago but gave the sponsors and the tournament stuff up. I still love being in the outdoors and love to fish as much as I can but no more pressure to try and win or get in the top ten anymore lol!
@@Rocktalk101 yea and I hear fishing professionally is super expensive too. I'm probably going to start a fishing TH-cam channel this year though we'll see how it goes.
@@JasonCarrara ya it gets pricey for sure I do not miss it. I just like to relax when I fish and I was never relaxed fishing tournaments I was always stressed out and fishing is suppose to be fun and I was not enjoying fishing when I was competing. But now I am back to just enjoying it again. the one piece of advice I will give you for starting a youtube channel is just be you and be honest and real and do not try and copy anyone elses channel style just do you.
Well I love my multi tract recorder I will tell you to get at least an 8 track or more and if you can go for a 16 track model as it will allow you much more versatility.
Who is going to bring their plugins to gig with them.I have a zoom live trak 12 but I do record to a DAW mostly. I don't use plugins though but I run through a zoom G5N pedal board into the amp then XLR out of the amp to the interface.
well the recorder is 20yrs old so you can only get one like it used on ebay or reverb but there are many like it available at sweetwater or american music supply I would check out the tascam 24track or there 8 track depending on your needs but if you can offord it go for the 24 track. as far as my drum machine you can get that there as well or from musicians friend it is the SR18 by Alesis.
I used to have a Tascam 4 track. Over 30 years ago! I am 67 year old lady who has a musical. I really liked your video and wish you lived around the corner from me!! I need to record about five of my songs from my show to put on a cd and go around to the different playhouses in south Florida. I am stuck at the recording part. I am afraid to invest in equipment because I live with my mom and have very small space. Know anyone in south Florida? I am on facebook. Is there anyway we can communicate? Don't want to put my phone number here as too many eyes might see it and my email as well. Also, besides cd's can these finished works be put into the computer as newer, digital formats? Like WAV, MP3, so the song could be sent out in an email or a compressed file?
So there are many options out there for yo uthat do not take up a lot of space and will work great for you. the TASCAM DP-008EX Digital 8-Track Pocketstudio or the Zoom R8 8-Track SD Recorder, Sampler & USB Interface these recoders will alllow you to record mix and master your music and down load it to your computer in mp3 and wav files and then you can burn them on a cd or send thin digitally. you can find lots of multi track recorder forsale at these places musicians friend, american music supply, and sweetwater sound there are many in diffierent price ranges to fit your budget as well. There is a little learning curve to each of them but by reading the manuals and watching tutorial videos on youtube you will be able to figure it out pretty easy. You do not need a big space to record music you can literally set up a recording studio in a small bedroom on a desk these days. it does not take a lot of equipment it just take a couple of things and you are off.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks so much for answering!! Yes, I have been searching for alternatives and have seen those small machines. I would have to get some other gear, like cables, a mic (even though some have external mics), a drum machine and a musical keyboard. (although if I had the right keyboard I could use the keys to do a drum track.) Thanks again for answering!!
if your looking for a multi track recorder check out sweetwater they still sell them and have a good selection and prices as well for them. and the cowbell as well lol!
Can anyone recommend the best place to find percussion and drum loops including world music loops that I could use with a digital multitrack recorder such as this? I'd love to not have to spend $5k on a Mac if I can help it. I miss the days of analog like most of you.
I use an alesis SR18 drum machine which has multible kits in it as well as allows you to create your own drum patterns and fills and program complete drum tracks from beginning to end it is an amazing piece of gear and no computer or expensive DAW needed! I use it all the time. it is great for recording or even using in a live show setting if you are a solo artist. There are many other drum machines that so this as well and they do not cost that much either which is nice so they will not break the bank.
if it has a direct line out on the back then yes you can if not you will have to mic up the amp cab or speaker it has. Also if it has a speaker line out to hook up another speaker cab then that can work as well and go direct into the recorder but a direct line out is the best way if it has that.
I have been able to do some really good mixing and mastering on mine that has never been an issue but I also am a keep it simple stupid kind of person as well.
@@Rocktalk101 I just meant like when I eq an instrument, I can't seem to get in depth with cutting certain frequencies out, like I could on a DAW. I greatly prefer working with the hardware stuff. I'm just new to recording and can't seem to get the sound I want.
@@camlong89 gotcha ya it takes some time to get things dialed in and find the best way to get the right sound you want. Hell I am still working on it myself but I have finally come to a good place were I can make pretty decent recording now lots of trial and error but it is worth it in the end. Keep working at it and you will get it.
Reality is you need to get it right not just fix it in the mix later. My first 2 track was bouncing down from one caset to another lol wow and flutter where not an effect back then lol@@Rocktalk101
@@rodkrell1 I 100% agree and that is why when I record my songs it is not in pieces. I play the song all the way through each time for each part. Some times I have to do many takes to get it right and then I take the best take from them. It also makes you a better player in the long run as well as really making you learn your songs. I have watched many videos of bigger bands in the studio recording songs in pieces and then after they are done you will hear them say wow now I have to learn how to play my song I just recorded. But for me I already know how to play my song before I record the dang thing! lol! Anyway I love multi track recorders and it is my favorite and only way I will be recording my music. thanks fo rthe comment and watching the channel.
I dont like to copy a guitar track vs playing it twice. ... I prefer the sound of a 2nd guitar playing the same thing, because there will be different nuances the other guitar track doesnt have., The tracks wont be indenticle & I like that & I just pan one slight right & one slight left
Well I agree with you that it is better to play the track twice rather then cpy and past the track as it will give it more of a stereo sound effect which does make it sound fuller in the mix for sure. And better for that matter as well. But some people prefer to copy and paste I do both depending on what I am recording at the time.
One question that i have is that how i align tracks if i record from pc/whatever without sync ????? I know there is a trim somewhere but i can't imagine aligning all tracks or should i try it first?
Well on my muilti track recorder I use there is time counter at the top of the screen you can see so it shows you exactly where you are in the song so if you are dragging dropping different tracks you can drop it exactly where you want to. But the way I record is I always lay down my drum tracks first then I reset back to zero and play the rhythm tracks the I do the same thing for the bass tracks as well. Then I will just punch in the leads and what ever other little licks or sections I want using the punch in and out functions. But I always play the song all the way through when playing my guitar rhythm tracks and bass tracks I never do it in sections. I also never use any sync or time a line feature's when recording either because I feel if you time a line everything trying to make it so perfect you loose the feel and real flow of the music and it starts to sound like a bunch of robots playing the song. so many people stopped actually listening to the music and started watching it on a computer screen and trying to make it so perfect that the feel and flow of music has been lost in recording these days. But that is just my opinion but one that I and Slash both agree on that is why he still records on old reel to reel tapes and plays with his whole band in the studio together in a live setting and they take the best take out of about 4 takes and that is what ends up on his albums. Just some food for thought anyway. As far as recording on a computer with a DAW I never use a computer just my 16 track as I hate daw's I like recording the old school way. But your DAW should have a time counter as well to help you a line your songs as well just depends on what you are using. Not sure if that helps but I hope it does. thanks for watching the channel.
@@user-cg4wp1im1r ok cool I have not tried that one out but it should be the same as far as recording I mean you can cut a splice and drop things in where ever you want and you can record your songs piece by piece as well my suggestion is to get you drum tracks recorded then you can just punch in and punch out each section of the song if that is how you like to record or you can just play all the way through like I do. But like I said as well don;t be so worried about everything being exactly time a lined I mean you want it to be as close as you can get but music has a flow and some of the best mistakes made while recording ended up being some of the best parts of the greatest songs out there. try just listening with your ears and if it sounds good to you the go for it and stop focusing on what it looks like on a computer screen. That is my suggestion anyway. And just keep working on it I am always trying to get better at recording all the time but there is a point were you just have to say that is good and I am good with it and then hit that export button lol! anyway wish you the best and if you have anymore questions I will do my best to help answer them.
WHY Pan the drums when your just recording??? I only pan when Im uploading into Audacity to record the mix. Thats when I need the panning. unless im missing something?
I do not pan my drums when recording you can pan them later when mixing and mastering if you want to. Also why did you ask me what a daw is when you are using Audacity? that is a type of DAW?
yes that is a good deal this recorder was around $599 when it was new so ya if you can get one that is in good condition for$150 that is not a bad deal at all in my opinion.
Thanks very much for 5his video..Iv3 had my MR 16 Multitrack player recorder for about 10 years now & only ever made 1 Cd..I haven’t used it for years until this month. I’ve recorded 2 songs into the MR 16..but I can’t remember how to convert the songs into “Wave Files” .?? So I can make a Cd.. Could you help me out & show me how to do this please.. thanks.. Doc in Surfers Paradise..
ok so first you have to turn your song into a stereo wave file by usimg the bounce mode to tracks 15/16 stereo wave file which the buttons for that are just under your display screen. ater doing that choose the song and go to CD-RW in your menu click on that then click on CD-burn then click on track at once then pick your track and then click on burn to CD and that is it. after you put how ever many songs you want on the CD then hit finalize and it will master the cd and pop it out. that is the quick down and dirty way to explain it, there are video's on youtube already about how to do this as well. Hope that helps.
Thank you so much for helping me with this ..I've got a lot of recordings in my Fostex.. that I do plan to record bone day.. We bought this Fostex so we could make our own CDs .& Now I'm going to do that .. many thanks for all your help today..much appreciated.. Doc' in Surfer's Paradise Qld Australia..😎👍🎸🎙️🎩🎹
Thanks again..I have tried looking for other videos that explain what you have said, but couldn’t find any?.. but your explanation is great 👍 & I’ll follow onto that..Like you, I’m old school..& also did the ‘Tapes’..back in the day with various twin tape decks..& back then sold hundreds of tapes we made up..& that was great..my instrumental cd I made on my foster several years ago, is still going 💪..and I’m still selling good numbers of them to this day..which tells me..that there is still good sales to be had from peeps still buying CDs..Once again..thanks for all your help, very much appreciated.. Cheer’s.. Doc’..Surfers Paradise..
it is a fostex 16 track recorder you can still find them used from time to time on reverb and ebay as they do not make them anymore. I bought mine new back around the mid 2000's some time.
Just picked up An mr8.2k multytracker Im an 0ld fashion guy My self...so...my dilemma is ...how to Record an listen... How to set up the audio...thanks.
ok to play back what you recorded there you have to de activate the track you recorded on first then rewind that back to the beginning and either use head phones that there should be a plug in for or usually there are input outs that will allow you to hook it up to monitors which I have mine set up for both ways to record and listen to playback. sometimes the head phone out can be run to a set of monitors as well just depends on the recorder. hope that helps.
please, tell me what to buy, i do not want some ones used problem so what unit could i trust, i just bought the zoom r 20 but its going back, i dont like it and its very hard to use. i've had Fostex f d8 and i could understand it but it was 750.00 back in the 90's and i now find it bleeding tracks together, why i dont know but it makes it useless and wasted money, i bought a used Tascam DP -O1FX/CD it is too complicated and does not explain each move in a way that is understandable for average people, i have the manual downloaded and have to keep battling it to just sequence the strange switches to guess if its going to be working when and where i'm at with it, its just annoying and up for sale. i will never use a computor to record it does not speak to me right and its not understandable. its as if it in Martian 95% i had a focusrite interface and reaper downloaded but it just did nothing and like a bridge that was not there. i'm not able, i have the money but feel like when after all this money will anything work for me?i get robbed then sell this junk off. from what your saying here i might be best with tascam 16 track if fostex has no new models to buy that are not nutty and useless like this zoom r20 touch screen mess of a grief to use, when things are complecated the last thing i need is blocked up touch screen aggravating me with its constant going to the wrong place and even if it does get right then is locked on that page because swiping page was a no no before but ok now but does nothing, i was visioning my hammer smashing it. one thing i only do is buy from a store with return in 45 days or 14 days. not through the mail. i can not take much of that.
well if you did not like the zoom then I would recommend looking at some of the tascam recorders as they are a little more old school and easier to navigate but they all have learning curves but the tascam 8 track or 24 track might be what you are looking for they are close to what my fostex is an how it works. unfortunatly fostex does not make any recorders any more which sucks as mine is over 20yrs old and still working great! but depending on how many tracks you need I would try a tascam and see if you like it.
Just got the zoom r20 yesterday. Giving it a 30 day trial. Heard all the positive and complaints. But when I used it, so far it works perfect minus it not being able to go above 44.1k at 24bit. It saves all the tracks in separate wav files that I can later put in fl studio to run filters and tweak.
The worst thing about a daw is that you spend all your energy trying to set it up and when it's time record it's dinner time. Daw are in my opinion not for real musicians that want to record with real instruments.
So I have had a few people tell me they use this and a DAW together but I am not sure how they are doing that ir how they would link it together as I do not use a DAW.
Hi! I have an old Fostex MR16 HDCD working and my teens use for record and create music. However I have a issue or question about it. The usb data transfer wav to PC its a pain in the 😄 Works sometimes and not always. Loosing connection and taking time about 15min for some tracks. MR16 is updates with latest version and wavemanager also. Any tips or tricks? Please help or get me in contact with someone who can get me fix this little issue Thanks for a nice canal and videos!! Jocke sweden
Well I wish I could help you or give yo an answer but my best suggestion is to tty and send a message through the old fostex site and see if there is any tech support still available for it. I have been able to transfer my files just fine with mine so I can] really help out with that question.
@@joakimenoksson yes I just plug it into my computer and then I can download the files just fine no issues. there is a setting you have to set on the recorder to make it work as well just look in the manual and it will walk you through the steps.
@Rocktalk101 I just want to share a cover my boy and friends made with the mr16. Drums recorded with 4 mics. Bass straight in. Guitars also, or through boss katana 50 mk2. Vocals records with mics. Then all parts mixed and mastered In computer with ableton and so... th-cam.com/video/tBo6Pz14pb8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jQNeSIX-MfTtl-rN
So after the recording process there is a mix down button on the top that you will hit to mix and master your recording then you will turn it into a wav file so you can either burn it onto a CD or up load it to your computer or where ever you want all these functions are pretty easy to find ad do after recording through the menu section's of the recorder.
@@Rocktalk101 A button does a mix and mastering? I did not mean rendering the tracks to 1 file. I meant proper mixing and mastering......You are very limited to do that on the console as copared to a daw ;)
@@gibson2623 you have the same controls on on my 16 track as you do on a DAW the only difference is that one is on a computer and one is on an actual board and machine. You are not limited at all on mixing and mastering Some track recorders are more simple then others but with mine It can do everything a DAW can do for the most part. So I not sure where you are getting that it is limited on mixing and mastering? You don't Just hit one buttton and it mixes and master things the button I was refering to was for the final phase to create it into a wave file for export. you can adjust each track and EQ each track and ad or take out effects on each track control the levels and all the same stuff you do in your DAW. Your DAW is literally based on a multi track recorder all they did is create a multi track recorder for the computer.
@@Rocktalk101 You have all sorts of very good plugins in the DAW for mixing and mastering...Like 20 different Eqs, Compressors, Transient shapers, and what not....That s what I meant
@@gibson2623 And that is what I am saying as well my multi track has different EQ's, compresser's and all that stuff as well built into it not 20 of each but a couple of each I mean how many different EQ's and such do you really need to record? I like things simple and easy. But I did understand what you where saying. And thanks for the comments.
@@CSAN-II I am not sure what you mean by that? are you asking if you can add the name of songs and time stamp on the top of the CD as well if that is what you are asking then no it does not do that. You have to print your own label for the CD cover with that inforamation on it.
The best part is that it doesn't have TH-cam on it so you can't get distracted so easily. Thanks for this!
The best part is…no latency! Zero! Very cool! I still have my Roland VS-1824CD that I bought in the early 2000’s. Still working perfectly. It’s so nice having the faders and transport buttons.
cool and ya I just love recording with a multi track recorder and mine has served me well for many years I know for me as long as they keep making multi track recorders that will be the way I record my music.
Exactly
And no stupid driver issues or crashes!
COMPUTERS are Meant For BUSINESS NOT Music >> I Use a Zoom R24 Channel + a Korg pa3xpro Arranger Keyboard + a TC.Helicon live 2 Thats ALL YOU NEED 👌🎶
@@alanmartin4780 it’s ok to export the tracks from your recorder to a daw, for mixing and small edits, considering you’re out of the recording phase. Going out the daw into a console, then back into the daw or a 2 track tape machine could be fun!
@@facksvillain2296 Lol Theres Definitely No Fun in Going Back Into DAW !!! As I said In My Comments MUSIC Does NOT BELONG On COMPUTERS Lol
Thanks for that video, I really enjoyed seeing your set up. This is what the internet is great for in my opinion: people who are passionate about what they do and passing it on. I’ve been playing and writing songs for years but had almost given up trying to record because sitting in front of a computer was killing it for me. Then I learnt about going DAWless from people like you. I got myself a little Tascam 8track and honestly it’s been a revelation. I LOVE it! Thanks again for the vid man. ✌🏻
thanks for watching and the great comment and I am glad that my video helped and tascam makes great multi track recorders!.
For me it is the only way to record as I hate using a DAW I am a keep it simple stupid kinnd of person and you can make great recording with a multi track recorder.
And just FYI Jimi Hendrix recorded all his stuff on a 4 track multi track recorder that used tape back in the day.
Thank you for posting this. I'm a recording artist who is strictly old School. I have a Zoom R24 multi track recorder that I have been using since 2012. I use it to record all of my albums and have had no issues with it whatsoever. I love the simplicity of hardware recorders. My studio is DAW-less and all of my recordings have been nothing less than outstanding. Computers crash when things go wrong and the plug-ins just make the recording process difficult and sound artificial. I have been recording this way dating back to analog Tascam recorders and I prefer it that way. Again, thank you for posting this. Great minds think alike.
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thanks for the great comment and this is the only way I record as well I have no DAW in my studio as well. And I have been recording with a track recorder all my music career and I get great recording out of it as well. So it has been nice to see there are other's out there as well that like and appreciate it still as well.
Great video, there is also the fact that a standalone recorder will still work after you upgrade to the next version of Windows, not all DAWs will.
Exactly no having to buy the next upgrade or version to keep your DAW running multi track recorders or a one time buy it learn it use it and you are good to go.
And I believe they also will make you a better player as well just because of there more old school style when recording.
I say that because I always play through the whole song when I record each part I do not record in pieces or sections.
thanks for watching and the great comment.
"I'm old school". Possibly the best quote from a human being - works for everything, not just music
thanks appreciate it and thanks for watching the channel.
Might not sound as good coming from a dentist or neurosurgeon. 😲
Of course . Example : nothing can replace the radio in ur car , Internet doesn't really offer a better alternative. Analog is powerful and stable and simple and never stops
Great video! I have been recording with the same eight track Zoom MRS-802 digital multitracker since 2007. I still use it almost everyday and have recorded over eight albums worth of material on it. The biggest reason why I still use it is that I've become so familiar with it's functions that accessing all of it's features is second nature to me- which means I don't need to think of anything technical except for the music while I'm tracking a part. It also has never crashed or failed on me even once after all these years which is a big plus.
Awsome and ya that is why I still use mine as well because I know it so well and it has served me so well over the years thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.
I also have used a Zoom 8 to record all of my material. I love that machine.
@@chasgotthespins6124 cool!
I know this comment was a year ago, but do you have a link to your material? I'm interested in what you have produced.
Thanks Shawn. Good to know.
I bought the same Zoom MRS802 years ago but never used it - just about to start now though so glad it’s a good piece of kit
I still have my Yamaha AW1600 and my Roland VS2400CD. I look after them well and they don’t give me any issues. Love these old stand alone digital recorders.
thanks for the great comment I love them as well.
Back in the day, when I recorded my CD I used a Roland VS 1680. I did my recording exactly like Rocktalk101. I too am 'old school' and started on a 4 track tape deck. Since I got back into recording in the last few years, I have been using computer based DAWs. Most of the time, if I'm not fixing an issue (my God, the issues) of some sort, I'm sitting slack jawed and starry eyed in front of my computer staring at a bewildering array of plug-ins and effects and oh the possibilities are so endless that I don't actually DO anything. Another reviewer described Multitrackers as 'focused' and I agree. I spent 6 months going through plug-ins just to see what I had. The other thing I don't like about PC DAWs is all the....artificialness. I don't like click tracks. I don't like auto-tune. I don't like the temptation to just fix it in editing instead of becoming a better musician and getting the take right. My approach this time is real guitars plugged into real amps and real drums recorded with real microphones into a multitracker, with minimal editing and production.
thanks for this great comment and you covered so many reason's that are the same reasons I still record with a multi track recorder. And I like the fact that you pointed out the part about instead of just fixing it learn to be a better musician and get the take right which is so great that some other them myself understands that. As long as there will be multi track recorders being sold that is what I will use to record with. thanks for watching and commenting as well really appreciate it.
I hear you! I've been recording on a Roland vs1824 unit for years and I absolutely love that machine they're so sturdy and professional built like a tank anyway I have the same issues with my DAW..crashing, latency issues the BS just never ends!! I sold my old ROLAND XP 50 wish so bad I still had that keyboard anyway I'm looking into the zoom r24 I suppose.... I have the zoom live track but like I said those things are like toys compared to those ROLAND units
It took me too long to figure out it is quicker and better to have another go. Even with a multitracker I was still laying down a bunch of sloppy takes then taking hours stitching them together. My playing improved a lot when I stopped doing that!
Great!!! I love it. I'm old school too! Excellent Video! Thank you
well cool glad to hear there are a few more of us old school people out there and thanks forwatching the channel.
Love this, finally a tutorial that's explained simple so i can understand ❤
thanks for the comment and watching the channel and I am glad it helped that is why I made the video in the first place to hopefully help the next person tryin gto figure out how to use a multi track recorder.
I have the Fostex VF-160. 16 Tracks simultaneously with the use of an ADA8000. Bought it new as a recording package from Musician's Friend back in 2002. Still going strong! Fostex made some great multi-tracking machines. The only thing we do different is, I dump all of the tracks to CD, and import them into protools and mix/master there. Great video man! Glad to see there are some old school multi-trackers still out there!
thanks appreciate the great comment and ya I tried the whole dump onto my computer and mix in a daw thing just didn't work for me.
I like to keep it as simple as possible.
I agree. I’m old school too. I love how tactile MTRs are. I love the “hands on”. The sliders. The record/play/wind buttons. The track mute/play/record buttons. The gain controls. It’s what I liked about the old reel to reel recording studios, where recording was a craft, not just a lesson in software manipulation. Everyone’s telling I need to move over to Logic Pro, and I’ve tried both it, Cubase and Cakewalk, and hand on heart, I didn’t like any of them. It sounds kind of soulless. Everything’s done with plug ins. And (to me anyway) it’s overly technical and complex. With the MTR I’ve had a song’s worth of drums done, plus a bass and two guitar tracks in a day. A full week of fiddling about with a drums plug in on Logic and I still didn’t have a song’s worth of drums I was 100% happy with. My MTRs a Zoom R16. But I also have a Boss Micro BR80, which I use for quick, on the fly song idea capture. The finished sound with the Zoom though is superb, particularly the on board mastering settings. I’ve used a live drum kit, an Alesis electronic kit and an Alesis SR16 drum machine. All easy to do (though the drum machine is far less disturbing to the neighbours!). You’re right. They’re so easy. Plus, you can pick up the zoom R16, put a hand full of batteries in it, take it to rehearsal and record the entire band! You can’t to that with a DAW.
Great video and thanks for letting me know I’m not the only one who prefers these over DAWs.
thanks for watching the video and you are not the only old school recording guy out there and for me as long as they make multi track recorders that is how I will record. I to do not like D.A.W.S and I do not like plug ins and I agree using those makes the music sound soul less for sure. I use real drums or my Alesis SR18 for recording drums as well. I have been looking into getting the zoom R16 as well seems like a great unit.
It is your preference. I can be better&faster(10x) with DAW than with portable multitrack recorder. And i don't know how to make some manipulation on portable multitrack recorder.
Back in 1993, I bought an Ensoniq ASR-10 and, in 1995, began recording its tracks onto cassettes, using a Tascam 4-track Portastudio. Put out a couple of album's worth of recordings that way and, since it was digital-to-analog, the sound was pristene.
@@user-cg4wp1im1r yes, it’s all personal preference. I agree (having used DAWs) that it can be faster using DAW, but I’d suggest “better” is subjective as it depends entirely on the end sound you are hoping to achieve. The stuff I’ve done with cubase, Logic and cakewalk all sounded over polished/pristine, even superficial and over produced (I liken it to the recording equivalent of plastic surgery!😅). The stuff I’ve done on the MTRs, has more warmth, depth, spontaneity and “liveness” to it, as it is definitely more difficult to manipulate or post record rectify the recorded tracks (other than put the signal through effects/modelling etc). I’m not saying I won’t ever use DAW again, but my first preference is definitely the “hands on” of the MTR. But all that matters ultimately, is we keep making music - however we can and however it makes us happy.
Yes, I'm going this way. I'm getting back into production and doing remixes. That's the way I learned.
awsome!
Love your video. I always love using the old & simple way of recording but sadly I can't find any in Australia. Thanks for sharing
thanks for watching and check out sweetwater.com for multi track recorders they have some great tascam and zoom one forsale that are not to expensive at all. also not sure if ebay is a thing for you guys over there but you can find my exact recorder that I am using on there used sometimes as well as others like it. also reverb.com is another great place to look as well.
I'm an "old-school" studio artist myself...I started my journey with a Fostex MR-8, went through a couple of those, an MR-16 like yours, then on to Tascam's 24-tracks (2488, MkII, then Neo). But all for the very same reasons you do. I've TRIED several DAW/computer-based recording solutions - even the easy-to-use ones like Gar/Band - but I like the hardware approach, and like you, am unlikely to depart from it, as long as I'm able to make music!
Am just recently discovering how many people are like me in the DAW vs H/ware debate, so now I don't feel like such a dinosaur. And I make a pretty decent recording too...
glad to know there a few of us still out there that still like to use track recorder's. I will keep on using one as long as they still exist as I really do not like using daw's on computers at all.
Great video! We are a couple of old school guys as well. We live in different states and use two TASCAM DP-32's to record our original music by sending SD cards back and forth (I said we were old school) then we post it on our TH-cam channel. We do it for fun and keeping our friendship alive despite the miles between us.
thanks for the great comment and what a great way to keep your music going.
nice video, I was given the Tascam 2488MKii digital portastudio for free. It had a few issues, but nothing that a cheap can of contact cleaner couldn't fix. It now works perectly with no issues. For a 24 track recorder it sounds really great. Happy recording.
awsome I am actually planning on getting the new tascam 24 track recorder in the near future just have an extra one around I also use the zoom H4n pro 4 track hand held recorder for a lot of stuff it is were IUsually start recording ideas for songs and putting them together.
I have used a 2488 for years, and decided to use a DAW..now I’m back to my 2488 😅
Thanks for sharing this...needed the help to make a decision
glad the video could help and thanks for watching.
Great recorder. I've been using the Fostex vf160 16 track recorder for years. It's probably going on 20 years old now but it still works great. Rock on brother!
thanks and ya I love mine and will keep using for as long as I can.
I actually just bought a new ZOOM r20 16 track so I'm anxious to see how it works.
@@mikelozanoscustommodelshop8756 cool! let me know how well it does.
I still have my old gear. My BR-900 to me still has some nice effects. I am recreating my set -up to include inputs from my 4-track tape (!), old pedals and almost-analog stuff. The overall sound is just different, like records to mp3. Thank you for posting this for the ideas for this.
awsome and thanks for watching and 4 track tape I remember those days for sure I used to have a multi 4 track recoder that used cassette tapes to record those were the good old days for sure!
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Hi bro’…Doc here again..👍🎸🎤🎩😎..
I finally got the Multitrack sussed..After much deliberation..swearing, ranting & raving..& as you suggested..th3 manual..I went through all the steps again..& no record to Cd???..I saw the USB host drive on the back of the MR16..plugged one of my independent Cd writer recorders in the back of the host..went back to burn Cd!!..& BOOM…It started to burn..🔥🔥🔥..checked the TOC & yep.. the track was on Cd..so repeated the steps..burnt all my tracks onto Cd..😎👍..So success at last..The trouble was with my Cd writer burner..replaced the internal Cd writer with a new one..😎💪👍..Sweet az..We’re Rockin & Rollin..thanks for all you help bro..very much appreciated..When ya got your “Patreon up & running ..I’ll happily bounce you some wickedly deserved 💰💰💰..Keep On Rockin bro”..Doccin Surfers Paradise..Gold Coast, Qld Australia Downunder..Cheeeeeehhuuuuuuuu
glad to hear it man and keep rocking and glad I could help!
Great music and production.
Up until 2000 I used a Fostex DMT8 v2 MIDI Timecode sync'd to an Atari 1040STE with 4MB RAM, and that was running Steinberg Cubase. That was controlling two Yamaha MU100R rack synth modules, that had a vocal harmoniser and virtual wind/string boards. They both had a combined total of four audio inputs, fully controllable by MIDI and had multiple FX processors assigned internally to those inputs. I had a virtual mixer in Cubase and so I could fully automate the mix of the Fostex digital multitrack recorder, by having the track outputs go into the Yamaha MU100R synth audio inputs. There was very little that setup could not do, that my modern PC DAW does now, and it was bullet proof for reliability and ease of use. Once the mix was ready to master, I would record it to my Fostex D5 DAT recorder, and from that to a standalone CD recorder.
awsome and thanks for the great comment need more like that on here to show people that track recorders are still a viable option in todays world.
Enjoyed video. I have a Boss BR-800. Just getting started. Timing is key on this all-in-ones. You have to be able to play to click track (or drums) because you can't move or stretch or process as easily as you can on a PC - which is a good thing. I confess, recording I have K.I.S.S. turn out the best.
thanks for watching.
I'm Old School as Well Bro I Still Use My Boss BR 8 64 Digital Multi Track Recorder with Some Analog Out Board Gear Awesome Video Bro 💯
Awsome and it is good to hear that I am not alone in this!
appreciate the comment and you watching the channel.
I Always Say the Same Thing Lol, I Sub to Your Channel as Well @@Rocktalk101
@@DJPHAROAHE thanks I appreciate the sub as well.
Great video Rocktalk101. Reading all the comments under this video makes me feel justified in my recent decision to go back to using a multi track recorder.
I started with a Yamaha MT50 four track tape machine before graduating up to a Fostex DMT8 VL digital recorder with the analogue mixer. I did some of my best recordings on that machine. I moved into computer music with Reason and Cakewalk rewired and I made quite a few albums that way, and I admit that those tracks still make money for me to this day, but they don't have the warmth of the multi track recordings from the hardware.
Running a hybrid set up of an analogue studio with hardware analogue synths, drum machines etc going through an analogue desk into Logic is a lot more closer, and I have been happy with the results, but I am now decided to get a digital recorder as an alternative or companion to using a DAW.
With computers and DAWs they are always being upgraded so you end up having to buy a new computer when your old one no longer is compatible to the software. I just wasted money on another Mac just to find out if I want to put Logic on it I would have to upgrade as the version that I have on my main Mac is old as I turned off automatic updates on my computer.
I'm off to purchase a Tascam DP32SD right now and get back to the old school workflow.
first thanks for watching the video and I am glad this video has made you feel more justified in your decision to go back to a multitrack recording system. I have always recorded with a multitrack since back in the day when I had a 4 track that used a tape. I messed around with a computer DAW but I just did not like it at all and like you said with all the update's glitches that can come with them as well as it cause your computer to freeze up or crash from time to time as some other's have said I just find it not to be as good as using a multi track recorder. So for me I will us a multitrack recorder for as long as they keep making them.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it and I agree with you. Having a multi track recorder is essential. I've just come back from paying down on the Tascam DP32SD, and a Yamaha MT120 that had just come into the shop. That means I will have had the 50, the
100 and now the 120. I need a four track to play my old tapes and to record and get that four track demo sound. I will pick them up at the end of the month.
For me being free of the CPU limitations and the upgrade rubbish just makes it worthwhile
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio awsome! and ya let me know how it is going in a few months would love to hear how you are liking the new gear.
I worked like this for many years but with a Roland digital 24 track workstation. It was able to output to a monitor and be controlled by mouse and keyboard. I had it synced to an ancient Atari with Cubase and an Akai sampler. If I was still in a full band I might still be using it. When my partner in music and life and I dissolved the band but wanted to continue making music I started experimenting with Garageband which came free with my Macbook Pro. Have to say, 3 years later that I’d never go back to my old school set up. I cant imagine sacrificing the level of control and graphic clarity I have now. I have a couple of nice little interfaces, Logic Pro on a new Macbook and a selection of soft instruments like Ezdrummer. I still record my tube guitar via a miked tube amp though. I’ve never had major latency problems.
Thanks for the comment but fo rme I just love using multi track recorders it has worked great for me my whole music career and does everything I need it to do. I am a keep it simple stupid kind of guy and this for me is just perfect.
Coming from a similar background recording on cassette 4-track, I have to say that I like both I like to use physical machines but I have so much flexibility on the computer! I myself am working a series of TH-cam videos on getting professional products (music and video) using older equipment!
thanks for the comment and watching the video and awsome that you like using both nothing wrong with that at all .
And good luck on the youtube videos as well.
I'll be a multi-tracker for life. Nice video.
thanks me as well!
Love it! Great guitar tone. If you got good outboard, no need for plug-in compatibility; they're just watered down algorithms of the _real_ thing.
The DAW is a remarkable innovation but I think to some degree it's not bringing out the best in musicians and may impede many up & comers from mastering their instrument. I just hope it's not desensitizing future music fans with bionic simulated perfection.
I switched over to HD recording with _Emagic_ around 2001, for doing film scores and soundtrack work. Due to improvement of my workflow, my creativity gradually began to descend into "potboiler" category.
When I finally decided to release a new album a decade ago, I set up the old _XT 20 ADAT_ machines and mackie board, probably last time _anyone_ on the planet has tracked on SVHS lol. The increased difficulty of navigating old tech apparently reinvigorated my mojo. I firmly believe adversity is the _best_ fuel for artistic inspiration and I'm afraid DAW recording may be taking something from the art.
thanks you for the great comment and very well said and I could not agree more. As I have said in other comments for me recording with my multitrack recorder makes me a better player as I play my songs and parts all the way through when I record instead of this record a section and just cut and past. I do not know how many recording sessions I have seen where the band records an album just doing it in bits and pieces and then putting the song together and after it si all done then they ahve to go learn how to actually play the songs they just recorded. Which they should have already know how to play before the start of recording. My old band we would record ideas and stuff and then take those ideas and put them into songs then learn the songs we wrote and then after we had them down tight then would would go record them not the other way around.
I have a BR 1600 CD and it’s deep. I downloaded a disc for an update from Boss. I also have a iPad Pro with a few different DAWs and they can be a headache. Thanks for your channel.
thanks for the comment and watching the channel.
To Michael..
I also have a Boss BR16,
I am very familiar with it,
I don't know how long you had your machine but if you have any questions feel free to contact me.
Also..
Can you reply with some information or how to get update disc ?
I have a Tascam 32 track and love it!!
While the daw world is dealing with computer freezes, crashes, lost data, software upgrades, OS updates, viruses, new software learning curve, outdated hardware, new laptop… the multitrack standalone musician is creating laying down tracks same as it was then and now. Btw slaving everything to the recorders midi out is unheard of these days.
thanks for the great comment and it is so funny the comments I get on people that never new multi track recorders even existed and still exist.
On top of those that are going back to the multi track recorder over there daw as well.
I personally will always record with a multi track recorder as I always have as long as they exist.
and I will make sure to have a few extra around so I always can lol!
Good to know I'm not the only old school weirdo who doesn't record on a computer! I prefer my Yamaha AW1600. Why? Because with a DAW and the endless plugin options, there are WAY TOO MANY choices to make. I know my workflow very well now, so when I record, it's quick & easy. Sometimes it's good to have limits!
I don't thing we are the weirdo's I think we are the smart ones lol!
and ya DAW can be over whelming and it also causes you to not be as good of a player in my opinion because you can just always fix everything in post.
Some of the best songs and albums out there actually have mistakes in them that turned out to be great mistakes that made the song or the album.
Now they want to time a line everything and fix every little thing and most new music sounds like a damn robot is playing it in my opinion.
There is something to be said for keeping it simple.
thanks fo rthe great comment.
I had a AW16 for years. Was amazing piece of gear for the price
@@X7_MERC_MAN_17 yep I love my 16 track for me it is the only way I like recording and it is simple and easy to use which I like.
I also still use my multitrack recorders and the midi ports makes it easy to mix down my Roland 10 track with my Tascam 24 endless recordings.
awsome! and I have been looking at getting the tascam 24 or 36 as an upgrade to the fostex that I have been using for so many years but the one thing I love about my fostex is it can actually mix master and burn a CD for me so it is a great all in one for me.
A good video, thank you! I prefer using multi-trackers too. I have the Tascam 32SD, but before I bought that I bought the Tascam DP08EX which is very affordable with good quality sound, but not enough tracks for me, hence upgrading to the 32SD. I do still use the 8 track for "musical sketches". Whenever people start talking about home recording they usually say "get a DAW" which I think is very narrow-minded. You can record some excellent tracks using multi-trackers, the sound quality has improved greatly and they are a lot easier to use. Also, they are very "musical" in the respect you end up recording tracks all the way through and get better at playing whatever instrument you play, instead of getting lazy and recording in bits and pieces which I found I used to do when I used the old Steinberg Pro 24 on the Atari (yes, that's going back some!).
I could not agree more with you on all these things I will never use a DAW as long as there are multi track recorder's available to use. And yes the DAW has made people lazy and and yes recording and playing your songs all the way through will definitely make you a better musician hands down and that is just one of the many reasons I like using a multi track recorder as well as I feel you get a better recording as well but that is just me I am old school and I love using my DAW and I do not have to worry about paying for new updates for it or it crashing on me or any of the other crap that happens and come using a DAW. thanks for the great comment and watching the channel.
@@Rocktalk101 Thank you! I know I have become a much better musician since going down the multi-tracker route! Some examples are on my TH-cam channel, but I feel like I'm just beginning! Hopefully one day I might "get somewhere", but to me it's the journey that's fun. 👍👍
@@pbcreative6388 it is a great journey for sure!
Hey, cool stuff. Would love to hear a clean final mix you’ve recorded on that :)
well if you listen to the song memory by silverflow featuring tammy smith on my channel that was recorded with my 16 track recorder it is also the song you first here when you go to my home page. SO check it out and then you can tell me what you think. I also have some new songs that will be getting released soon that will have been recorded with it as well. you will be able to find them on this site and silverflows band site as well.
Keep on rolling !
thanks
I still have my Korg D1600 but now I use an MPC One because I got fed up with the linear multitrack paradigm after 40 years.
I like the freedom of recording each section of a song and being able to swap them around or try adding a pre-chorus or whatever and if I don't like it I can just leave it out - much easier than editing it in and then having to delete it. It's also a lot of fun to sample my playing and chop it up and come up with things that I wouldn't have come up with otherwise.
The disadvantage with the One is no mic preamps but I could use a USB audio interface with it if I needed multiple mic preamps. As I don't need that I use an ART Voice Channel for mono tracks. I've gone back to the way I used to record on my Tascam 244 so I record with EQ and compression. It's a much quicker way to record and prevents me second guessing my decisions.
thanks fo rthe great comment appreciate you watching the video.
I just bought the Fostex-mr16 as want to start doing voice-overs and a pod cast program. I would like to see you demonstrate how to actually burn a cd from something you have recorded. This is all new to me and just a little confusing. I can get the voice recorded but haven't been able to get the info to the cdr. But I believe that I will love this unit once I get a handle on how to use it.
You can download the manual to the recorder from the fostex web site and it will walk you through how to download it and do the CD burning process.
I love the multitrackers.It's a shame they don't do MIDI on the new ones otherwise I'd get a new one. I have a Zoom MRS108 which was fitted with a Flash Drive.You have a great way of explaining your workflow.Thanks
thanks for watchin the channel and the great comment appreciate that.
I have been recordin gon my Fostex MR16 for many years and love it.
I tried DAW route and hated it I am a keep it simple stupid kind of person and using a muti rack recorder is just simple and easy to me.
Honestly I love this DAW less workflow. Looks so cool and is super fast. Use alot of hardware when tracking into cubase or pro tools but this jist as good
thanks for the comment and yes I think it is just as good as any daw or pro tools stuff and for me it is a lot easier and faster to use. I have had this particular unit for many many years since 2005 or 2006 and it has been serving me well.
thanks for watching the channel appreciate it.
Kool stuff man. What would be your favorite strategy for recording vocals ?. . what preamps of special equipment? and how do you do the mastering ? Congrats and Greetings form El Paso Tx
Ok I do not use any pre amps at all and My recorder has built in EQ which I use a standard setting on it which is one of the pre programed one though you can change it how ever you like.
No special equipment either I use an MXL condencer mic and run it through my vocalist live 4 which is a vocal processor I have owned for many years.
then straight into the recorder line 1. ad some reverb adjust the volumes and let er rip. I will also us a sure SM48 cardioid mic as well when layering the vocals together. as far as mixing and mastering my recorder is set up to do that so all I have to do is set the mix levels were I like them then hit the master button and it does the rest.
if you go to my play list and look up music videos all the ones from the band silverflow which is my band were done with this recorder so you can check them out and hear how it sounds when finished.
hope that helps and thanks for watching have not been down to El Paso keep rocking!
@@Rocktalk101 . . . The Digitech Vocalist Live 4 pedal that you mention helps for sure . . I have a Live 2 and it has a very good sounding preamp, the vocals improve for real. In regards to the mastering I didn´t know it uses a "master button" so there´s the function. I used to have an Alesis Masterlink I belive was the name and it was Ok to finalize the mix. Thanks for your response and greetings.
@@jeffokriya3389 yes on this particular model there is a mastering button once you get your levels and mix how you like it all you have to do is hit the master and finalize button and it is done. and the best part is if you do not like it you can go back and fix things and do it over which is really nice.
I nearly bought another standalone digital multitrack back in 2021. It was the legendary Yamaha AW4416 and it was local for a very cheap price. Like a lot of old gear, it would likely need some work to replace ageing or failing components, moving faders and backlit displays etc.
thanks for all the great commentts for me like I have said I will always use a track recorder for recording as they are just easy to use at least for me they are and rock solid reliable and I just enjoy using them more then a DAW. We all have are preferences this just happens to be mine.
@@Rocktalk101 Yeah even though I fully understand PC setups, all that staring at screens etc just kills my creativity and spontaneous jams. I bought myself an old Yamaha QS300 keyboard workstation in 2021 for next to nothing, and it sounds great, has a sophisticated but simple to use sequencer, lots of tactile buttons and sliders. Within seconds of switching on, I can be jamming away and recording. Then two button pushes and all backed up.
Even back with my old Fostex setup and Atari Cubase, I spent more time using the controls of the Fostex, only occasionally glancing at the computer to check stuff. My PC setup I have to strain my eyes looking at tiny plugin windows, and fiddling with stupid mouse or laptop trackpads. The playback/recording control transport gets lost under other windows. I had none of those aggravating issues with the Fostex way of working! Old school is best!
@@EgoShredder yep those are just a few of the issues I had as well with a daw searching for stuff losing it under another window I hared using a mouse or the touch pad to do things. Much easier and more satisfying to push a fader up and down with your hand then a mouse in my opinion. Like I said I will always record this way.
I hate using a computer to make music. I have a DAW that I actually like but I hate dealing with all the problems/issue that come with computers like latency, updates, RAM, etc. Quick question how do you like using that Alesis drum machine? I’ve been thinking about getting one.
Ya that is just some of the reasons I still like using my 16 track recorder I do not have to dealwith all the issues that come with using a DAW on the computer. And I love using my Alesis SR18 once you get the hang of how to use it and create your on drum tracks it is a blast to use and works create I use it for live solo shows as well because I can program full songs drum fills crash and all that good stuff and create full songs from start to fish and then at just a touch of a foot switch start them and then it will end on its own when the song is at the end just like having a real drummer play with you. it take a little bit to learn but is well worth it in the end and there are some grea youtube videos out there on it that will help you figure it out faster then if you ae just rying to learn it through the manual. I highly recommend it as a drum machine to get.
Cool demo! Does this version have side chain? I'm looking at getting this or the R20 in New Zealand once I move there from South Australia. Using the MPC for now but it's too heavy for only two inputs.
cool and glad you liked the video.
@@Rocktalk101 Still trying to find something with side chain on it though so might get the Octotrack
but this has 8 inputs.
Hey very good and well made! So…the mr16 has no fantom for mic’s recording?
yes it has phantom power for mic recording it also has on board setting to change the style of mic recording if you only have one kind of mic I.E. dynamic/condensor etc: You can use any type of mic you want with it. if you want to hear some full recording just watch my music videos I have released this past year with my band name silverflow and you can hear exactly how it sounds with a full mix recording.
Tascam did skiped the midiport on DP-24/32 SD, and i miss it,..to be able to sync a drum maschine, nither have zoom any midiport,..for shure i love the way you do it, i started in the 90's at a Fostex x-26,...then a Tascam 244, then Fostex XR-7,..then Fostex DMT-8vl,...and a couple of Zoom's MRS-4 and MRS-8,...Today i use TEAC-3340s Reel2Reel,..Tascam DP-32SD, and a Zoom R8,..and i love it. Computers naah,...use them too,..but love the oldskool way i got a kick of it to get out on a track full of good happy accidents and comitments,..Thanks man for shareing
thanks for the great comment and watching the channel really appreciate it.
@@Rocktalk101 Hi =) i have a Q about how you record your guitars/Bass? Do you record direct from mic/D.I thru Amp and pedals in to a track, and so to speak record direct to track and commit, Or do you record one channel Amp/Pedals, and a dry channel to mix both later?,..One Q more is do you compress the signal before or after the Pedals,..on the way into track.? Thanks dear friend
@@aftertheendtimes So I always record the drums first and that is direct in from my drum machine after I have created the drum tracks.
then I direct line record my guitar parts straight from either an amp with direct line out or I use my boss GT-1000 direct line out straight into the multi track recorder.
every think is recorded on separate tracks and then EQ leveled mixed and mastered it gets compressed during the mastering phase which the track recorder does automatically when mastering the final track.\hope that helps.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks a ton dear, Always learning from others, and it is fun to ask someone like you that has a fot still in the oldskool way of recording like me, cos All new producers talk DAW, a ton of vst's and ruels that includes dry tracks on guitar and bass aka clean D.I and then the effected channel with compressors, dist, effected, and a lot of editting,..I feel that it kills the in the moment feeling and live feel, it is not autentic,..real, once again thanks for anwering me,
@@aftertheendtimes anytime and feel free to ask me anything if I can answer and help I will.
I am very old school when it comes to recording all this new stuff is just way to much over kill.
and I agree you loose the feel and flow in the moment with all this time a lined crap and all this extra editing.
some of the best music recorded was done on small 4 tracks that using to use tap back in the day you got 1 or 2 takes to get it right.
Jimmy hendrix himself recorded everything he ever did on a 4 track recorder.
there is an old saying just because you can do it does not mean you should and for me less is more.
thanks for watching the channel and appreciate the questions and comments.
I've been on both sides of the track. I started with a Zoom MRS 1044. I must confess, using a DAW on my computer is a tad bit easier; but I do miss messing with the faders physically.
ya for me using a multi track is easier and I enjoy it more but I will say what ever or which ever works best for you is what you should use. I ma not against a DAW I just prefer a multi track recorder instead.
thank you🤠
your right. i dont understand why more people dont use these for production.
plus , with multitrackers , you can input any source you want and then track out that way.
im even thinking on using my android tablet with minimal daw apps and drums ,
then just track into the recorder, and only use the tablet for loop time .
thanks for the great comment and that actually sounds like a cool way to do it as well with the tablet.
tascam all my life and i'm 52 been using them for the past 35 years im currently using two different tascams now a neo 24 track and i just bought the sd24
awsome! I am 53 been using tascam and fostex multi track recorders all my life.
I am planning on getting the tascam 24 trackk myself here soon as well.
thanks for watching and the great comment.
Hi just come across this video. I started with a little 4 track tape machine, then bought the MD 8 track and used that twice, then the Yamaha AW16G came out. I still have the Yamaha AW16G which I bought late 90s I think. I recorded about 30 40 songs using intrumental (Karaoke) tracks so really I just had to add vocals. I got so damm frustrated with Compression that I eventually gave up and untill now the 16 track stayed in the box. I'm once again trying to get my head around the compression. I think all multi track recorders are more or less the same. Could you possibly do a video on how you are compressing vocals? and what Pre Amp do you use? I'm currently using the Art Studio V3 preamp. It would be amazing if you could share your compressing knowledge. Please. Thank You in advance for any advice. (At the time I bought the Yamaha 16G there was no videos on youtude like there are now.)
ok so as far as pre amps I run my vocal through a vocalist live 4 vocal processor then straight into the recorder imput than as far as the compression on my recorder there is a standard compresion setting that you can use so I just have that on with the stock settings that my recorder came with. Fairly siimple and straight foward for me hense why I really like my 16 track recorder.
I am a keep it simple stupid guy and that is how I try and record thigns as well as simple as I can.
😅 Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge! I am looking at buying a Boss BR1200 cause its close to my country town. Im a 60s model and using a DAW and computer is not a option. I'm only a solo player and after 45 years of playing i haven't got any of my own songs recorded. Could you please tell me what you think about the boss br1200. It's importantly got the CD Burner in it. So glad I found you on utube!! Thanks from a land down under
So I do nor know anything about the br1200 but boss makes great products and I use a lot of boss stuff.
the fact it has the CD burner is a definite plus.
@@Rocktalk101 thanks for getting back to me and I have subscribed to your excellent channel. Cheers
@@Blue66isback thanks for watching and subribing to the channel i really appreciate the support.
I want one of these machines
they don't make the fostex one I own anymore but tascam and zoom both make one like it that are great.
I'm still working oldskool as well and I'm annoyed how many new electronic instruments lose many functions (even basic ones) if you don't hook them up to a computer.
I don't want to sit behind a computer when making music! Using a Zoom HD16 which I put an SSD in.
it is always nice the hear about other's that still like to record old school as well and I agree it is annoying that it seems like everything new coming out has to be hooked up to the computer to get its full function out of it. Thanks for the comment and watching the channel.
I record live music home and club, for fun witha Zoom H1N and it sounds great.
awson I have had a zoom Q2 I have used for years as well as my muti track recorder and now I am using the Zoom Q8n for all my videos and I am really enjoying using it as well.
@@Rocktalk101 But on all these recorders, wouldn't you want to at least import to Audacity t (or whatever DAW) to polish up parts, remove bad notes, shrink down level on certain parts, fade out/in etc...etc... or is this possible with what you have?
@@Blueguitar007 I can do all of that with this recorder and then some! this will do everything a DAW will do except be able to downlaod different type of plug ins. But as far as fixing notes and stuff like that what I do is record 3 or for tracks of each part and take the best of those playing the song all the way through. that is how they used to have to do it with the old reel to reel tape and it makes you a better player as well as really get food at playing your songs or what ever song you are recording. and it foes not really rake any more work in the long run because going back and editing and punching in and out parts to fix mistakes can actually end up taking you more time in the long run. Well that is at least how it works with me anyway.
I started doing “sound on sound” recordings till I got a Tascam Porta One in 1987…. Then I got a Tascam 688 MKII MIDI….. then VS-890…… then moved to DAW based recording (Steinberg Cubase) in 1998. Today I still use a DAW (Cubase Pro 12) and my iPad Pro (Cubasis)….. I still have my Tascam Porta One and Roland VS-890….. what I added to my DAW is a Alesis ADAT XT that is sync’ed to my DAW….. I like how quick I can get my tracks down and edit them on a DAW compared to a stand alone unit…… everyone has their own preference……
yep they do but I can record just as fast on my stand alone unit as I can with a daw or at least that has been the experience for me I feel my stand alone unit is just easier and simple to use and has worked for me for many years but ya everyone has what they like and do not like for sure.
@@Rocktalk101 The main issue with using a DAW is that some people get caught up with all the options that are available for you to record to the point that they are not getting any recording done. Trust me, I was one of them. You don't get side tracked with the visuals when working with a stand alone unit.
@@Rocktalk101 Think I will bring out my Roland VS-890 and see what I can come up with..... I can midi sync my laptop with EZDrummer 3 for drums since I sold my Boss 550 MK II drum machine a few years back..... Great video.....
@@Bernz66 yep could not agree more.
@@Bernz66 I have several different drum machines I use for recording drums. My Alesis SR18 is amazing but just got this new boss drum and looper pedal that has just been great to work with have recorded a few songs with it already it has really impressed me so far.
What is it about the fader - you can't beat it for control. I used a Boss 800 for many years - and have recently switched to Tascam DP 32. Great clip - well done
thanks for the great comment and watching the channel and I have been looking at the tascam 24 or the DP-32 for awhile now going to get one or the other soon Just to have another one and a newer version multi track recorder before they stop making them all together which I hope never happens.
Great vid. Are you still DAW-less? Also what is the CD duplicator machine you are using and are they practical in your opinion?
Yes I am still DAW-less I will always record on a multi track recorder as long as the exist.
I got my CD duplicator from musicians friend years ago can't rememebr the brand name at the mment but they have several or did on there site back when I bought mine.
And yes they are very practtical if you are going to be making a duplicating your own CD's rather then sending them out to get mass produced.
I use to do all my label and logo printing on my CD's as well as mass producing them all in house for many years.
and I still make C.D.s of my original music for people that want it in house hense why I have a CD burner in the first place.
But with all the new tech out there you can send your stuff out to companies now that will do all the art work and everything for a good price so you have to decide which way you really want to go when procing your CD's
@@Rocktalk101 I see… and is there still a market for CD’s as regards your music fans? Do they tend to fall into a particular age demographic?
Also… I’m looking to get an all-in-one self-contained unit like your Fostex but perhaps 24-track. Any recommendations?
@@MrSeeker42 the tascam 24 track is what I would get if it was me as that is the one I plan on buying next for myself as well but none of the newer ones have CD burners built in anymore you will have to download your music to your computer and then get an external CD burner for your computer if it does not have a built in one and then you can burn the master then pop it into the cd duplicator and make copies.
as far as my music fans they get all my songs off of itunes spotify and all the other streaming services out there these days.
I still keep my CD duplicator and all the other stuff to make a professional C.D. just in case someone actually ask's for a C.D. and also to burn C'D's for promo packs for giving to venues to get gigs in clubs as they want to see and here your songs and if you have a professional looking and sounding C.D. in the promo pack that goes a long way to getting the gigs.
As far as age groups I have had people of all ages at my gigs if you write a good song and are a good live performer I feel you can bridge age gaps when it come to good music.
@@Rocktalk101 thank you for sharing from your experience as well as your recommendation. Nowadays It’s strange promoting something without being able to give a physical media. It sort of loses its value by being completely virtual. We’re you thinking about the Tascam 2488 or a more recent model?
@@MrSeeker42 the TASCAM DP-24SD 24-track Digital Portastudio is the one I was talking about.
and yes I think it sucks that everything virtual and for me I still like a good old CD in my hands. I will always be old school when it comes to music I like a good real amp Orange being my favorites none of this plug in crap my boss GT-1000 or some good ol stomp box pedals and my MR16 track recorder and I am off and recording!.
and all this everything ahs to be time allined perfectly stuff is crap to! sounds like a bunch of AI robots playing music no groove and no soul. But that is just my opinion.
I watched this just to see what you had to say about multitrack vs. DAW/computer. And not only do you use an MR16 like mine, but your drum machine is an Alesis as well. Mine is an
Alesis SR-16. And I love both of my machines
Awsome and a great combo to have for recording or playing live,
I went back and forth on if I should get the 16 or 18 but just said the hell with it and went with the 18.
Both are great drum machines in my opinion.
thanks for watching the channel and the great comment I appreciate it.
Great video. Learned some new things.
Question is how do you transfer the data? Can the MR 16 transfer the master track to a thumb drive or computer or other device? Or is it limited to just burning them on the internal cd burner? These days hardly anybody uses cds anymore. And transfering cd tracks to a computer and then sending the files through email has always been a challenge for me. Could you do a video on transferring the tracks to an external source if there are any so we can send tracks over the internet?
Thanks
it can and does transefer files or your master track/song to a computer Via a usb cord all you do is plug it in and follow the promps to transfer your files to the computer that is how I get all my stuff out on the streaming services.
But I also can burn an actual CD aas well if I choose and I do do as well to keep on file or make duplicates to give to people.
this spacific recorder is very easy ro use and I have been recording song on it for many years.
If you go to my play list and look up music videos you can hear how a final song sounds and comes out as I have several music videos I have released .
@@Rocktalk101 Yes. I've had my MR16 since 2014 & I've done many CDs and mixes on it but never got far enough along in the manual to the wav file section. I'm still using Windows XP(pro) so I was glad to see it's compatible and I'll soon be transferring my files cuz I need to get into streaming and sharing these tracks with my clients and students. I believe I'll still have to download a driver or file program from fostex to make it work. Is that correct? I've still got a lot to learn. I'll check out your other videos. Thanks.
@@bobbycottonwood000 So you are going to need a spacific cable that has the USB conection on one end and then the conection that hooks into the MR16 so look were it plugs into there and make sure you get tthe right conection. I was able to find the right cable at walmart so should be easy to ge one.
Second get your manual out and go to the section that tell you how to export your riles to a computer it will walk you right through what you need to do to make it happen. Now if I remember correctly I think I did have to go to the fostex website and down load the right driver to my computer so yes you may have to do that but I do remember it was easy to find and download.
I will try and make a video on how this process works as well in the near future.
And it is nice to hhave a fellow MR16 guy out there. I will also say I am still earning all kinds of things it is capable of but I try and keep my recording simple and straight foward as well.
if you have anymore questions are ever need help do not hasitate to reach out and I will try and help the best I can.
that is litterly why I make videos in the first place is to try and help others as best I can with what I know.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks for your help and thanks for your videos. I'll let you know how it turns out. I studied recording engineering at a local college for 3 semesters in 2012 & 13. We started out using pro tools but I felt like I was way over my head. Overall I did very well on the course but pro tools was my biggest challenge. My guitar player turned me on to the MR16 in 2014 but he didn't know anymore than we did but that was when CDs were still king. I had an akai dps12 for several years before. (& Still have it. The hard drive was limited so I switched it out and doubled the memory). But I wound up having to take it to the college studio and dumped the tracks on their daw and made CDs that way. It was more complicated and time consuming b'cuz I had to transfer the tracks in real time. So I'm glad I found the Fostex and have been using it since for all sorts of projects.
@@bobbycottonwood000 ya I am a keep it simple kind of guy and DAW especially freaking pro tools get way to complicated.
Jimi Hendrix recorded all his stuff on a 4 track tape recorder.
Recodring does not have to be complicated people just make it that way.
And me personally if you start time alining everything and trying to make it perfect then you loose the emotion and the soul of the song or album abd things staart to sound robotic.
But that is just my opinion. And if you took songs that were recorded back in the 70's 80's and 90's and shoved them into pro tools they would sound a lot different actually like shit lol!
I love the fact I can just plug this thing in adjust my settings hit the record button and off I go!
back in the day bands played the whole song all the way through the did 3 or 4 takes and kept the best take and that was it,
Now with things like pro tools the record parts of songs or a riff and then cut and past or copy and past to creat a song and then do all that other editing stuff.
Then the band has to learn the damn song they pieced together which is just crazy to me.
Yes I still love old school way of recording a lot of DAWs are very confusing
Could not agree more as I am a keep it simple stupid kind of guy I will keep using a mulit track recorder for as long as they keep making them. thanks for your comment and watching the channel.
Couldn't find one on Amazon, but I did find the MR-8.
Ya the fostex 16 trackI have is no longer made you can find a few on ebay but the MR-8 works as well.
Thank you, for the presentation. With regards to drum machines, presently most new models seem to be built around analogue classics. I am interested in a model that can handle regular pop/rock genres besides those analogue sounds. 2. Preferably it should also have song mode so I can sequence the different patterns into a song. Your suggestions are much appreciated. Tq.
I use the Alesis SR18 Portable Electronic Drum Machine With Effects and I highly recommend it as you can create any drum patterns you want and sequence them all together any way you want with drum fill's cymbal crashes ETC: it has a litl bit of a learningcurve but once you get it you will love it. there are several video's on line about it as well.
@@Rocktalk101 thank you for your reply. For a while, I thought Alesis has stopped producing them. Will look these up.
@@christopherkiyui8071 thye make a SR16 as well but the SR18 has a lot more features.
I see a lot of love for the korg KR55 PRO from people who want those features (beware there is no midi unfortunately and that part doesnt get any love). The drums sound like the Korg trinity which i have done amazing drum tracks with. Tip: run digital drums thru tech 21 Bass Driver DI you will be amazed.
@@Rocktalk101 thank you. I got myself the SR16 about a month or so ago. It has all the features I need.
recorded my first band's first album on this thing back in like 2002 ish i used to take it to each musicians house and record their part lol there were like 8 of us what a nightmare hahaha
cool and ya I have had to do that as well in the past but 8 members ya that would have kinda sucked for sure lol! thanks for watching.
Hey brother awesome video. I record with a Tascam model 16 , and Tascam dp24 & dp 32
awsome! and thanks!
@curtis roberson Same here, I have the OG Tascam DP-24 with MIDI and CD! When I first bought it back in the day you were the first person I saw on TH-cam with it!
@@leogolive cool!
Me too 😉👍
awsome!
My big challenge is ......getting afinal finished product that not only sounds good in earbuds or headphones, but also on a house stereo or car stereo ........... I usually can only get a mix that sounds good on ONE thing only not all of them . Its almost like the mix needs to be done using whatever it will most be listend to on.
well I will tell you I have burn many a CD and ran out to my truck to listen to it then came back in the studio and changed a few things and did it again.
I have gotten to the point now though with my recorder that I knid of have it figured out but it is all trial and error my friend but you will get it just keep plugging away.
I don't use cds at all anymore, but I don't like using a daw very much at all. Does this device have an SD card drive or USB drive that you can record songs to or do you have to record to cd?
it does have USB so you can down load your finished songs or track straight to your computer and by pass recording on a CD.
@@Rocktalk101 thanks!
@@bt_8498 you are wlecome I am glad to help.
Please make a full editorial on this machine
I will see what I can do to make more full in depth video on this Track recorder for you.
I must have got my MR-16HD in 2008 or so. Many versions of these …MR-8’s have 8 virtual tracks, 2 inputs, mk2 MR-8’s have an onboard microphone (not sure how the quality would be …MR-16 has]d many versions …the standard version had like 2gb of memory, MR-16CD had cd drive like yours, MR-16HD has 40gb hard drive, I’m sure there was a “both version” with the CD and hard drive. I’m sure if one could find a version lacking any of these feature one could add a hard drive or CD burner.
Some push buttons have broken on mine, but I’ve fixed them. Still going solid. Other Fostex recorders that came before were the Fostex VF-160 and VF-80 …which I’ve seen in pawn shops and such ….looking around the manuals I’m sure they were released in 2004-2007ish. They have effects but lack the USB connectivity.
ya Fostex made a few versions back in the day actually wish they where still making them.
I have a korg d3200. When I turn it on its ready to go. Ive used computers but it takes to much time to keep up on matenance and also latency problems. Id rather go the korg and focus on making music.
awsome and ya I agree and am the same way all I do is turn it on adjust sound levels and start making music. I am a keep it simple stupid guy and I love using a track recorder to record my songs it is what works best for me.
thanks for watching and the great comment.
The only issue is when in breakadown.... hard to find parts to repair them. I used Boss BR1800n 900CD. n only last Month I had to let go the 900CD due to no more motherboard available. 😝
another positive is that you wont have to deal with "Latency when you got this route
thanks for the great comment appreciate you watching the channel and commenting on the video.
@@Rocktalk101 no problem! Now loan me 20 dollars 💵 and please 🥺
@@YoungBlaze nobody deals in cash anymore my friend its all about the bit coin these days lol!
This inspires me to go back and use my tamscam ex800. Bought it and used it twice.
awsome! and I hope you do go back and start using it again.
thanks for watching and the comment.
I see from the z-man hoodie you're also a fellow fisherman! Well there's two things we have in common already buddy LOL
Yes I am a fellow fisherman I actually have another youtube channel called bravobassin that is an outdoors channel that has fishing shooting hunting and reviews of fishing gear, guns, knives, axes, kayaks and all kinds of other outdoor gear.
Basically it is all the outdoor stuff I like to do.
I have a lot of great fishing videos on the channel so check it out if you are interrested adn do me a favor anf hit the subscribe but on that channel as well if you would not mind, i would appreciate it for sure.
thanks for watching thie channel and for the comments.
@@Rocktalk101 cool I'll definitely check it out. Besides my dog my two favorite things in the world are most definitely playing music and fishing. And it takes up 2/3 of my TH-cam watching for sure. The other third is probably aliens and nephilim's lmao 🤣 with a splash of Bigfoot thrown in usually.
@@JasonCarrara Ya I love to fish I used to be sponsored to fish and I used to compete in kayak fishing tournaments many years ago but gave the sponsors and the tournament stuff up. I still love being in the outdoors and love to fish as much as I can but no more pressure to try and win or get in the top ten anymore lol!
@@Rocktalk101 yea and I hear fishing professionally is super expensive too. I'm probably going to start a fishing TH-cam channel this year though we'll see how it goes.
@@JasonCarrara ya it gets pricey for sure I do not miss it.
I just like to relax when I fish and I was never relaxed fishing tournaments I was always stressed out and fishing is suppose to be fun and I was not enjoying fishing when I was competing.
But now I am back to just enjoying it again.
the one piece of advice I will give you for starting a youtube channel is just be you and be honest and real and do not try and copy anyone elses channel style just do you.
I want to get something like this so I can have a versatile setup with my MacBook Pro daw ie garageband
Well I love my multi tract recorder I will tell you to get at least an 8 track or more and if you can go for a 16 track model as it will allow you much more versatility.
Who is going to bring their plugins to gig with them.I have a zoom live trak 12 but I do record to a DAW mostly. I don't use plugins though but I run through a zoom G5N pedal board into the amp then XLR out of the amp to the interface.
right! who is going to bring plug ins to a gig! lol! well said. thanks for the comment.
where did you buy the recorder and drum machine?
well the recorder is 20yrs old so you can only get one like it used on ebay or reverb but there are many like it available at sweetwater or american music supply I would check out the tascam 24track or there 8 track depending on your needs but if you can offord it go for the 24 track. as far as my drum machine you can get that there as well or from musicians friend it is the SR18 by Alesis.
I used to have a Tascam 4 track. Over 30 years ago! I am 67 year old lady who has a musical. I really liked your video and wish you lived around the corner from me!! I need to record about five of my songs from my show to put on a cd and go around to the different playhouses in south Florida. I am stuck at the recording part. I am afraid to invest in equipment because I live with my mom and have very small space. Know anyone in south Florida? I am on facebook. Is there anyway we can communicate? Don't want to put my phone number here as too many eyes might see it and my email as well. Also, besides cd's can these finished works be put into the computer as newer, digital formats? Like WAV, MP3, so the song could be sent out in an email or a compressed file?
So there are many options out there for yo uthat do not take up a lot of space and will work great for you. the TASCAM DP-008EX Digital 8-Track Pocketstudio or the Zoom R8 8-Track SD Recorder, Sampler & USB Interface these recoders will alllow you to record mix and master your music and down load it to your computer in mp3 and wav files and then you can burn them on a cd or send thin digitally. you can find lots of multi track recorder forsale at these places musicians friend, american music supply, and sweetwater sound there are many in diffierent price ranges to fit your budget as well. There is a little learning curve to each of them but by reading the manuals and watching tutorial videos on youtube you will be able to figure it out pretty easy. You do not need a big space to record music you can literally set up a recording studio in a small bedroom on a desk these days. it does not take a lot of equipment it just take a couple of things and you are off.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks so much for
answering!! Yes, I have been searching for alternatives and have seen those small machines. I would have to get some other gear, like cables, a mic (even though some have external mics), a drum machine and a musical keyboard. (although if I had the right keyboard I could use the keys to do a drum track.) Thanks again for answering!!
@@joycesander no problem and have fun recording once you get set up.
Cool song... you need more cowbell. (hah)
I'm old school, too... looking for one, Thanks.
Peace on earth.
if your looking for a multi track recorder check out sweetwater they still sell them and have a good selection and prices as well for them.
and the cowbell as well lol!
Can anyone recommend the best place to find percussion and drum loops including world music loops that I could use with a digital multitrack recorder such as this? I'd love to not have to spend $5k on a Mac if I can help it. I miss the days of analog like most of you.
I use an alesis SR18 drum machine which has multible kits in it as well as allows you to create your own drum patterns and fills and program complete drum tracks from beginning to end it is an amazing piece of gear and no computer or expensive DAW needed! I use it all the time. it is great for recording or even using in a live show setting if you are a solo artist. There are many other drum machines that so this as well and they do not cost that much either which is nice so they will not break the bank.
can you plug an amp that has different amp emulators, like the fender cyber twin, directly into the recorder?
if it has a direct line out on the back then yes you can if not you will have to mic up the amp cab or speaker it has.
Also if it has a speaker line out to hook up another speaker cab then that can work as well and go direct into the recorder but a direct line out is the best way if it has that.
I have a tascam dp008ex and I like it better than DAWs, however, I feel like the mixing/mastering doesn't let you get in depth like on a DAW.
I have been able to do some really good mixing and mastering on mine that has never been an issue but I also am a keep it simple stupid kind of person as well.
@@Rocktalk101 I just meant like when I eq an instrument, I can't seem to get in depth with cutting certain frequencies out, like I could on a DAW. I greatly prefer working with the hardware stuff. I'm just new to recording and can't seem to get the sound I want.
@@camlong89 gotcha ya it takes some time to get things dialed in and find the best way to get the right sound you want. Hell I am still working on it myself but I have finally come to a good place were I can make pretty decent recording now lots of trial and error but it is worth it in the end. Keep working at it and you will get it.
Reality is you need to get it right not just fix it in the mix later. My first 2 track was bouncing down from one caset to another lol wow and flutter where not an effect back then lol@@Rocktalk101
@@rodkrell1 I 100% agree and that is why when I record my songs it is not in pieces. I play the song all the way through each time for each part.
Some times I have to do many takes to get it right and then I take the best take from them.
It also makes you a better player in the long run as well as really making you learn your songs.
I have watched many videos of bigger bands in the studio recording songs in pieces and then after they are done you will hear them say wow now I have to learn how to play my song I just recorded.
But for me I already know how to play my song before I record the dang thing! lol!
Anyway I love multi track recorders and it is my favorite and only way I will be recording my music.
thanks fo rthe comment and watching the channel.
I dont like to copy a guitar track vs playing it twice. ... I prefer the sound of a 2nd guitar playing the same thing, because there will be different nuances the other guitar track doesnt have., The tracks wont be indenticle & I like that & I just pan one slight right & one slight left
Well I agree with you that it is better to play the track twice rather then cpy and past the track as it will give it more of a stereo sound effect which does make it sound fuller in the mix for sure.
And better for that matter as well.
But some people prefer to copy and paste I do both depending on what I am recording at the time.
One question that i have is that how i align tracks if i record from pc/whatever without sync ????? I know there is a trim somewhere but i can't imagine aligning all tracks or should i try it first?
Well on my muilti track recorder I use there is time counter at the top of the screen you can see so it shows you exactly where you are in the song so if you are dragging dropping different tracks you can drop it exactly where you want to. But the way I record is I always lay down my drum tracks first then I reset back to zero and play the rhythm tracks the I do the same thing for the bass tracks as well. Then I will just punch in the leads and what ever other little licks or sections I want using the punch in and out functions. But I always play the song all the way through when playing my guitar rhythm tracks and bass tracks I never do it in sections. I also never use any sync or time a line feature's when recording either because I feel if you time a line everything trying to make it so perfect you loose the feel and real flow of the music and it starts to sound like a bunch of robots playing the song. so many people stopped actually listening to the music and started watching it on a computer screen and trying to make it so perfect that the feel and flow of music has been lost in recording these days. But that is just my opinion but one that I and Slash both agree on that is why he still records on old reel to reel tapes and plays with his whole band in the studio together in a live setting and they take the best take out of about 4 takes and that is what ends up on his albums. Just some food for thought anyway. As far as recording on a computer with a DAW I never use a computer just my 16 track as I hate daw's I like recording the old school way. But your DAW should have a time counter as well to help you a line your songs as well just depends on what you are using. Not sure if that helps but I hope it does. thanks for watching the channel.
@@Rocktalk101 Thanks for reply. I have Zoom MRS 8.
@@user-cg4wp1im1r ok cool I have not tried that one out but it should be the same as far as recording I mean you can cut a splice and drop things in where ever you want and you can record your songs piece by piece as well my suggestion is to get you drum tracks recorded then you can just punch in and punch out each section of the song if that is how you like to record or you can just play all the way through like I do. But like I said as well don;t be so worried about everything being exactly time a lined I mean you want it to be as close as you can get but music has a flow and some of the best mistakes made while recording ended up being some of the best parts of the greatest songs out there. try just listening with your ears and if it sounds good to you the go for it and stop focusing on what it looks like on a computer screen. That is my suggestion anyway. And just keep working on it I am always trying to get better at recording all the time but there is a point were you just have to say that is good and I am good with it and then hit that export button lol! anyway wish you the best and if you have anymore questions I will do my best to help answer them.
WHY Pan the drums when your just recording??? I only pan when Im uploading into Audacity to record the mix. Thats when I need the panning. unless im missing something?
I do not pan my drums when recording you can pan them later when mixing and mastering if you want to.
Also why did you ask me what a daw is when you are using Audacity? that is a type of DAW?
I'm looking at tha recoder. I see one for $150. Is thatba good deal?
yes that is a good deal this recorder was around $599 when it was new so ya if you can get one that is in good condition for$150 that is not a bad deal at all in my opinion.
Thanks very much for 5his video..Iv3 had my MR 16 Multitrack player recorder for about 10 years now & only ever made 1 Cd..I haven’t used it for years until this month. I’ve recorded 2 songs into the MR 16..but I can’t remember how to convert the songs into “Wave Files” .?? So I can make a Cd..
Could you help me out & show me how to do this please.. thanks.. Doc in Surfers Paradise..
ok so first you have to turn your song into a stereo wave file by usimg the bounce mode to tracks 15/16 stereo wave file which the buttons for that are just under your display screen. ater doing that choose the song and go to CD-RW in your menu click on that then click on CD-burn then click on track at once then pick your track and then click on burn to CD and that is it. after you put how ever many songs you want on the CD then hit finalize and it will master the cd and pop it out. that is the quick down and dirty way to explain it, there are video's on youtube already about how to do this as well. Hope that helps.
Thank you so much for helping me with this ..I've got a lot of recordings in my Fostex.. that I do plan to record bone day..
We bought this Fostex so we could make our own CDs .& Now I'm going to do that .. many thanks for all your help today..much appreciated..
Doc' in Surfer's Paradise Qld Australia..😎👍🎸🎙️🎩🎹
Thanks again..I have tried looking for other videos that explain what you have said, but couldn’t find any?.. but your explanation is great 👍 & I’ll follow onto that..Like you, I’m old school..& also did the ‘Tapes’..back in the day with various twin tape decks..& back then sold hundreds of tapes we made up..& that was great..my instrumental cd I made on my foster several years ago, is still going 💪..and I’m still selling good numbers of them to this day..which tells me..that there is still good sales to be had from peeps still buying CDs..Once again..thanks for all your help, very much appreciated.. Cheer’s.. Doc’..Surfers Paradise..
@@doktorjfeelgood glad I could help and thanks for watching the channel and keep rocking my friend.
@@doktorjfeelgood no problem glad I could help.
what system is that you are using
it is a fostex 16 track recorder you can still find them used from time to time on reverb and ebay as they do not make them anymore. I bought mine new back around the mid 2000's some time.
Just picked up
An mr8.2k multytracker
Im an 0ld fashion guy
My self...so...my dilemma is ...how to
Record an listen...
How to set up the audio...thanks.
ok to play back what you recorded there you have to de activate the track you recorded on first then rewind that back to the beginning and either use head phones that there should be a plug in for or usually there are input outs that will allow you to hook it up to monitors which I have mine set up for both ways to record and listen to playback. sometimes the head phone out can be run to a set of monitors as well just depends on the recorder. hope that helps.
please, tell me what to buy, i do not want some ones used problem so what unit could i trust, i just bought the zoom r 20 but its going back, i dont like it and its very hard to use. i've had Fostex f d8 and i could understand it but it was 750.00 back in the 90's and i now find it bleeding tracks together, why i dont know but it makes it useless and wasted money, i bought a used Tascam DP -O1FX/CD it is too complicated and does not explain each move in a way that is understandable for average people, i have the manual downloaded and have to keep battling it to just sequence the strange switches to guess if its going to be working when and where i'm at with it, its just annoying and up for sale. i will never use a computor to record it does not speak to me right and its not understandable. its as if it in Martian 95% i had a focusrite interface and reaper downloaded but it just did nothing and like a bridge that was not there. i'm not able, i have the money but feel like when after all this money will anything work for me?i get robbed then sell this junk off. from what your saying here i might be best with tascam 16 track if fostex has no new models to buy that are not nutty and useless like this zoom r20 touch screen mess of a grief to use, when things are complecated the last thing i need is blocked up touch screen aggravating me with its constant going to the wrong place and even if it does get right then is locked on that page because swiping page was a no no before but ok now but does nothing, i was visioning my hammer smashing it. one thing i only do is buy from a store with return in 45 days or 14 days. not through the mail. i can not take much of that.
well if you did not like the zoom then I would recommend looking at some of the tascam recorders as they are a little more old school and easier to navigate but they all have learning curves but the tascam 8 track or 24 track might be what you are looking for they are close to what my fostex is an how it works. unfortunatly fostex does not make any recorders any more which sucks as mine is over 20yrs old and still working great! but depending on how many tracks you need I would try a tascam and see if you like it.
Just got the zoom r20 yesterday. Giving it a 30 day trial. Heard all the positive and complaints. But when I used it, so far it works perfect minus it not being able to go above 44.1k at 24bit. It saves all the tracks in separate wav files that I can later put in fl studio to run filters and tweak.
@@supjay3945 very cool! glad it is working for you!
The worst thing about a daw is that you spend all your energy trying to set it up and when it's time record it's dinner time. Daw are in my opinion not for real musicians that want to record with real instruments.
I could not agree more with you on that.
I had a Boss 16 track but the hard drive was so loud and slow I paid $1600 and sold it for $100
well that kinda sucks? I love my fostex it has been a great unit for me.
CN this recorder work withba DAW?
So I have had a few people tell me they use this and a DAW together but I am not sure how they are doing that ir how they would link it together as I do not use a DAW.
Hi!
I have an old Fostex MR16 HDCD working and my teens use for record and create music.
However I have a issue or question about it.
The usb data transfer wav to PC its a pain in the 😄
Works sometimes and not always.
Loosing connection and taking time about 15min for some tracks.
MR16 is updates with latest version and wavemanager also.
Any tips or tricks? Please help or get me in contact with someone who can get me fix this little issue
Thanks for a nice canal and videos!!
Jocke sweden
Well I wish I could help you or give yo an answer but my best suggestion is to tty and send a message through the old fostex site and see if there is any tech support still available for it.
I have been able to transfer my files just fine with mine so I can] really help out with that question.
I have mailed 🙂 have you tried usb and took out wav files?
@@joakimenoksson yes I just plug it into my computer and then I can download the files just fine no issues.
there is a setting you have to set on the recorder to make it work as well just look in the manual and it will walk you through the steps.
@Rocktalk101
I just want to share a cover my boy and friends made with the mr16.
Drums recorded with 4 mics.
Bass straight in. Guitars also, or through boss katana 50 mk2.
Vocals records with mics.
Then all parts mixed and mastered In computer with ableton and so...
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How do you mix and master, after you record? LoL
So after the recording process there is a mix down button on the top that you will hit to mix and master your recording then you will turn it into a wav file so you can either burn it onto a CD or up load it to your computer or where ever you want all these functions are pretty easy to find ad do after recording through the menu section's of the recorder.
@@Rocktalk101 A button does a mix and mastering? I did not mean rendering the tracks to 1 file. I meant proper mixing and mastering......You are very limited to do that on the console as copared to a daw ;)
@@gibson2623 you have the same controls on on my 16 track as you do on a DAW the only difference is that one is on a computer and one is on an actual board and machine. You are not limited at all on mixing and mastering Some track recorders are more simple then others but with mine It can do everything a DAW can do for the most part. So I not sure where you are getting that it is limited on mixing and mastering?
You don't Just hit one buttton and it mixes and master things the button I was refering to was for the final phase to create it into a wave file for export. you can adjust each track and EQ each track and ad or take out effects on each track control the levels and all the same stuff you do in your DAW. Your DAW is literally based on a multi track recorder all they did is create a multi track recorder for the computer.
@@Rocktalk101 You have all sorts of very good plugins in the DAW for mixing and mastering...Like 20 different Eqs, Compressors, Transient shapers, and what not....That s what I meant
@@gibson2623 And that is what I am saying as well my multi track has different EQ's, compresser's and all that stuff as well built into it not 20 of each but a couple of each I mean how many different EQ's and such do you really need to record? I like things simple and easy. But I did understand what you where saying. And thanks for the comments.
What about the Metadata?
what about it? what are you wanting to know?
So when you master a track and burn it to a CD, can you and the metadata?
@@CSAN-II I am not sure what you mean by that? are you asking if you can add the name of songs and time stamp on the top of the CD as well if that is what you are asking then no it does not do that. You have to print your own label for the CD cover with that inforamation on it.