Digimon TCG | BT17-EX7 Diaboromon - A Counter to Imperialdramon?
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Breifly, I'm revisiting Diaboromon because in some play testing I found some interesting combos that could make it a great counter for Imperialdramon as it's being played in higher frequency. How powerful is it? Find out and some of the very niche rulings.
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Let's go! That inheritable effect of de-digivolve is so good!
Arguably the best element of the deck!
@@DIGI-PANDA 100000% agree!
I am a long time dia player. I feel like i never swing and get the draws off the egg like that. I havent played that egg in a while. Also im a huge fan of the old arma as you do not fill up your trash fast enough for the new one. The floodgate on lvl 7 is sweet too. Ive also replaced the other new arma with quartz as he is searchable and an instant out to the heavy tamer decks. The options are always changing around for me between the in theme one, and dg dimension. Sometimes even iron fisted just bc there is no out for deathx. dg is another out for floodgates too
SIDE NOTE: I have played in 2 evo cups and a few locals with all the new stuff and i havent beaten ancietgaruru once 0-4 (floodgates, chip damage and bouncing into an otk make it difficult) while i have only lost to imperial 1 out of 5 matches so your assumptions at the end are correct lol.
When given the chance, I feel like Imperial players will always go for the partition Paildramon over the starter deck variant.
The big thing about Ancientgarurumon is the ability to bounce the lowest level Digimon. This is where I'm postulating Monmon could be an addition. Is it good? Unknown and no verifiable results yet.
@@DIGI-PANDA huh, havent thought about the monmon. I was testing out the decoy again so in combination with each other it might be nice. I went 2-2 at both of my evo cups with the deck. I may post the profile on my other channel.
@@jkromes20 Since Ancientgarurumon targets the lowest level Digimon, it protects your level 4's and higher. And since Monmon can't be returned, Ancientgarurumon fizzles.
@@DIGI-PANDA In control variants, i'm not really a fan of the draw tsume as much due to Diaboromon being the most relevant deck in the format with the lowest DP statline. this is a problem since unless you're sacking your tsume stack, that Diaboromonis guaranteed to die in security. the new diabormon support leans towards blocker and de digivolve control where you dont want to swing with your EX6 diaboromon, and you want to give your tokens and ACEs jamming to guarantee they live the check. Dorimon or deletion tsume is generally better as it punishes deleting the main body or the blocker.
BT5 Arma is simply more valuable due to its cheap conditions to play and being the only lvl7 you can play for 3 mem that stops Evolution effects of lvl7s. this stops lvl7 Blast EVOs like paladin and other strong lvl7s like Ruin Mode from wiping out your tokens. BT17 is mainly there to recycle trash and be a late game cleaner/comeback factor.
I have experimented with clocks but without the use of BT17 Dia. it's not fun and the requirements to slot protection is too steep. So i am now testing Breath of the Gods as a clock replacement. Decoy kurisari is essentially "Scapegoat before it was cool" and Breath helps to provide bounce and DP reduction immunity for 2 mem. it's a lot more flexible than Clock as you can give any digimon the immunity. this means bounce immunity can be applied to Kokuwamon and BT17 Keramon so that decks like AncientGarurumon and Imperial will never be able to remove them from the field for that turn. As for the Decoy effect, it is not Decoy(Unidentified) but Decoy(Black/White), meaning any black and white digimon you add to your deck will have deletion protection from a token, including floodgates. The Security effect of Breath is also way more relevant than Clock, where it stops the opponent from attacking players compared to adding clock to hand.
Diaboromon overall is flexible with many playstyles, but the cards at hand encourage the deck to lean to a more reactive and counter heavy playstyle that punishes playing and evolving Digimon with the right setup. So having Decoy and breath helps extends diaboromon's persistence to be able to stay on the field and generate a wide board presence to cheapen EVO costs of new diaboromon stacks and to apply both offensive and defensive pressure in the mid to late game.
i can confirm monmon works great against ancientgaru, but the thing is that he’s a brick in pretty much every other matchup. i’d only put monmon in a deck if ancientgaru is your deck’s single achilles heel.
Kurisari can destroy any unidentified for the play reduction, there is a great combo having a lvl4 with ex6 or bt17 keramon on sources then for 2 mem (1 with tsunemon) you get the kurisari and a token, then evo into ex6 infermon who can pop the token to go into diaboromon on turn 2 and with 1 memory.
Love this card too for popping flood gates. You don't see too many prevention playing by effects right now though.
The other infermon is nice too as long as you have a token on board you can basically play out a diaboromon on your opponent’s turn for nothing
100% I love this deck more now but it's speed is slowly getting too slow comparatively.
Don't Paladin Mode literally OTK you with Dioboromon? He strips all the sources; and then unsuspends every swing as he botdecks your sourceless stuff. He botdecks the one that turns everything into a blocker first; and then just outright OTK's you. Or are tokens immune to this effect since they can't go into the deck?
It does. But one thing I learned in some test games is that if they can't ever get up to the Paladin Mode they can't OTK you. It's the control element that saves you. If they can't ever get to level 6, they can't ever blast into it. If they hard slam, they leave a 9 play cost body on board that's extremely vulnerable to cards like Diaboromon ACE.
Tokens aren't immune to the effect, and based on the wording of the effect, it doesn't have a clause that says "and if you do send a Digimon to the bottom of the deck, unsuspend this Digimon." It's worded in the generic do as much as you can kind of way.
Naturally, I considered PM ACE a problem, but that Keramon/Infermon combos is very nice.
Bt05 Armageddemon laughs in the face of PM Ace
@@kairusaotome95 I won't deny the deletion is kind of nice from BT16. And it is also searchable on the trainings. But agreed! It's just that On Play effect.
@DIGI-PANDA see, though, if they have to hard drop it, that's 6-7 memory they are forced to waste. At that point, you should have a Kurisari/Infermon waiting in breeding for the CounterAttack. Come back with Diaboro Ace and pop PM for a free extra 5 memory refund.
diaboromon in the movie: where is wallace.
diaboromon in the original: I am a godzilla troll, manifestation of human evil on the Internet with a desire to ruin everyone's lives.
Only thing good the English dub did for Diaboromon was give his line a proper voice.
@@kairusaotome95 I prefer the original, because Diaboromon in the original is just an animal that ruins people's lives.
@Leonardovideogoes I get that but at the same time he was modeled after the Y2K virus, to me the voice was more suiting than just a giggle sound lol. But hey to each their own, am I right lol
@@kairusaotome95 but be lol combine with diaboromon
Even though Willis isn't canonically a part of Our War Game.. I still kind of liked it.
BT16-005 Dorimon
I think it's a not bad card
Inherited Effect
[All Turns] [Once Per Turn] When another Digimon with ＜Blocker＞ is deleted, gain 1 memory.
This effect can perform well under certain conditions.
Because this effect targets Digimon with blockers.
My only issue with that egg it's only 1 per turn and locked into blocker
@@kairusaotome95 in my experience it’s been ok not amazing but neither are our other options. I’ve tried out the new egg too
@@jkromes20 The new Tsumemon egg has been working better for me honestly.
Definitely could also work.
PLEASE DO A MILLENNIUMMON ONE NOW THAT EVERY EVO IS OUT!
I will when the set is closer to release for English!
@@DIGI-PANDA THANKS MY FRIEND! THAT'LL BE MY NEXT DECK
Gennai works veeery good in Diaboromon.
Just so you can Evo into the ace? Doesn't seem that good
@@stratovarius996 With Infermon in Breeding and Gennai on Board the Enemy is hard on pressure and won't Attack because the De-Digivolve bevor the deletion is very strong. And Gennai helps a lot finding Arata.
This is true, that would pretty good to include.
I think you're overestimating the matchup just a bit. Having played Imperial against Diaboromon, I haven’t had much issue before or after BT17. Yeah it's a bit more annoying, its something that can be played around without too much issue.
Only a question to pose! Frankly, after watching Imperial this past weekend it felt like a lot of players saw bricking.
@@DIGI-PANDADefinitely. I will say, I think something that a lot of Imperial players get wrong is they disregard removal options in favor of using the line itself. Which is very good, don't get me wrong. But having security bombs is important, especially if you're bricking. To that end I've been playing around with things like using 2x Starter Deck Magnamon as I ramp up for the online St Louis regionals on the 28th. DeathX is another big addition I've added that I'm very happy with.
But if you're looking for a problematic matchup for Imperial, look no further than Dorugoramon. I JUST managed to get my first win against it last week. It's very problematic because the ability to delete tamers really messes with the tempo of Imperial, and when combined with De-Digivolve makes it a really troublesome matchup. It's why I added DeathX in the first place because it gives them something they almost HAVE to target besides my Paildra or tamers, and they can't just de-digivolve it to play around it like with Dragon Mode. But if Dorugoramon is running at all consistent and I'm bricking the slightest, it's almost a guaranteed loss.
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The evolution system is made up of an import of registered data, as true evolution is such a complicated system that no Digimon in the current world can perform it, as true evolution creates a new Digimon in this process.
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