Some historical backgrounds: After the Sino Soviet conflict, China urgently needed some vehicles that could withstand the impact of Soviet tanks. However, considering that China's anti tank missiles only developed on a large scale after the reform and opening up, using anti tank fighter vehicles is the best choice. Considering that China was one of the earliest countries to use 120mm artillery technology (Object 122 TM&WZ1224), using existing 120mm artillery and developing automatic loading machines is the best choice. After experiments, in reality, his shells can reach a penetration depth of 0 °/460mm at a distance of 2000m, which is enough to penetrate the frontal armor of T72A, T64, and T55. The use of 58x caliber artillery can even achieve a penetration depth of 0 °/700mm at a distance of 2000m. With the approval of the central government, this vehicle was officially equipped in 1988. Due to the disintegration of the Soviet Union during service, this vehicle lost its enemies. Resulting in an annual production of only 10-15 vehicles. Meanwhile, the service of AFT08/AFT09, ZTZ96 (Type-88C), JH7&JH7A resulted in this vehicle losing its advantages even in the 1990s. Finally, in 2017, this vehicle was completely retired from the reserve forces. Some models: Prototype car: ① The prototype using the Type 59 tank chassis is referred to as "PTZ59" in some games. ② A prototype using the chassis of the Type 69 tank. ③ A prototype using a 58xcaliber 120mm gun. The meaning of camouflage in Chinese is “Level 2 Overlimit”（二级超限 èr jí chāo xiàn）: Refers to the goods transported by train exceeding the width, and the exceeding width is classified according to the level: Level 1 Overlimit, Level 2 Overlimit, and Super Overlimit
I read that some Chinese factories can produce Type 59 and Type 69 tanks armed with full modernized FCS and a 120mm gun, is that true? Because that would be awesome to see.
@@AllMightyKingBowser Some 59/69 tanks exported to countries such as Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Iraq were actually equipped with 125mm guns. In addition to using an old-fashioned chassis, the entire tank has actually been redesigned, known as Type59G/Type69QM/VT1, and so on. They use turret designs and electronic equipment similar to the ZTZ99A tank (optional according to the budget of the purchasing country), but do not use automatic loading machines. They are specifically used for export to Southeast Asia and Africa. As for the 120mm gun of the mbt, it has actually been discontinued from development. Type59/69 has indeed experimented with 120mm guns, but this is because there are too many tanks that can suffer significant losses during the experiment (QN506 is also a similar consideration. A private company purchased the chassis of Type 59 tanks at a scrap price and installed their own company's developed gadgets). China has not officially equipped or exported mbt that use 120mm guns. Why does ZTZ88/96/99 not use a 120mm gun and tail loading machine? Due to lack of experience and outdated technology. The shell used in PTZ89 has a very high charge, resulting in a huge volume of the loading machine and extremely high recoil when firing the shell. This is also why the PTZ89 has weak protection and such a foolish large head, and its maneuverability is poor (although it was not designed to maintain long-term maneuverability).
@@PAUL-ESNEED I mean, it faces unstabilized heavy tanks which have armour being the only thing they've got for them, armour which this shoots clean through without aiming. Maybe not undertiered but definitely a menace in a downtier and a menace in an uptier. It's not like I am saying this as a player without experience in it, I have about 100 games in it.
@@badrepputation there is a thing called obj 120, and yes PTZ89 do have a better round and reload speed, but it cannot compete with ture mbts like leo a1a1, of40, t62m1, or actual light tank like rooikat MTTD and hell even WMA301, mobility is important
@@badrepputation the real thing we need is br decompression, when T54s and leo 1s without STAB are at 8.0 that can meet all the 9.0, you'd thought 9.0 is a really good br, but if you play 9.0 you will find out you also get way outclassed by 10.0 (9.3 is actually even worse)
Clicked on the vid because I remember dying twice to a PTZ89 on Hurtgen Forest, lo and behold it was you haha. Pretty cool, first time I have noticed being in a youtube video.
I personally think that every tank in the game should have a scout drone. Having literal eagle eye vision is just way too much of an advantage to limit to only certain tanks.
I don't think tank destroyers should get UAVs because the light tanks on your team should be marking and scouting enemy tanks. It kinda splits the roles and, in my opinion, is better for gameplay
I litreally just got this tank...I also watched your last video on it which was like 2 years ago. Was wondering when a new video will come out about it. Whats a coincidence
@@schwartzprime3045 you mean cuz it's basically a Tiger II ? I hope sweden mains don't get excited about it, cuz the 6.7 lineup is not great and will get full uptiers 95%
@@JaykeBlayde that's what i meant yeah, the skin it has later in the pass looks really nice, but besides that it's basically a reskin on an existing vehicle.
@@JaykeBlayde the 6.7 is decent as you get the PBV501 (bmp-1 w/o atgm) and the Bandkanon, as well as the charioteer, but if you go to 7.0 you get the ZSU-57-2
@@otlad Charioteer is 6.3 and is only good at rushing to cap a zone no reverse and no depression with a shell that shatters half the time. Bkan is only good for hiding behind buildings and waiting for bros to go by. PBV501 also fast but is made of paper no depression and unreliable grenade that can't shoot thru fencing/trees. You face IS-2, IS-3, IS-6, T34, T29 literally every single match. Nothing fun at Sweden 6.7, at all. And I'm using Level 150 expert crews on those also.
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 correction tiger 2 is 6.7 while the vidar is 8.0 so in proper line ups they will never meet. The point i was making are Lasers and Darts are fighting super Heavies with long reloads and no technologies in which to fight outside of knife fighting in which No armor best armor syndrome serves much better found in these style of tank VS that of the superheavies
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 If your playing arcade then tech tree tiger 2 and the prem are 7.0 but most conversations are about Ground realistic in which Tiger 2 tanks are 6.7
I love this tank. I've played about 600 matches with this vehicle. I'm an average player but I have 1200 kills in 600 games. The 5 second reload comes in very handy. And this tank surprisingly has a trolly armour and it survives a lot of hits. The only big issue is the 14 degrees per sec turret rotation. You get screwed in city maps
It's nowhere near as good as in world of tanks, it has a pretty good gun but that is kind of where the advantages end for it, a lot of vehicles, like the one in this video, can pretty much kill it at any angle
Some historical backgrounds:
After the Sino Soviet conflict, China urgently needed some vehicles that could withstand the impact of Soviet tanks. However, considering that China's anti tank missiles only developed on a large scale after the reform and opening up, using anti tank fighter vehicles is the best choice. Considering that China was one of the earliest countries to use 120mm artillery technology (Object 122 TM&WZ1224), using existing 120mm artillery and developing automatic loading machines is the best choice.
After experiments, in reality, his shells can reach a penetration depth of 0 °/460mm at a distance of 2000m, which is enough to penetrate the frontal armor of T72A, T64, and T55. The use of 58x caliber artillery can even achieve a penetration depth of 0 °/700mm at a distance of 2000m. With the approval of the central government, this vehicle was officially equipped in 1988.
Due to the disintegration of the Soviet Union during service, this vehicle lost its enemies. Resulting in an annual production of only 10-15 vehicles. Meanwhile, the service of AFT08/AFT09, ZTZ96 (Type-88C), JH7&JH7A resulted in this vehicle losing its advantages even in the 1990s. Finally, in 2017, this vehicle was completely retired from the reserve forces.
Some models:
Prototype car:
① The prototype using the Type 59 tank chassis is referred to as "PTZ59" in some games.
② A prototype using the chassis of the Type 69 tank.
③ A prototype using a 58xcaliber 120mm gun.
The meaning of camouflage in Chinese is “Level 2 Overlimit”（二级超限 èr jí chāo xiàn）: Refers to the goods transported by train exceeding the width, and the exceeding width is classified according to the level: Level 1 Overlimit, Level 2 Overlimit, and Super Overlimit
I read that some Chinese factories can produce Type 59 and Type 69 tanks armed with full modernized FCS and a 120mm gun, is that true?
Because that would be awesome to see.
@@AllMightyKingBowser Some 59/69 tanks exported to countries such as Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Iraq were actually equipped with 125mm guns. In addition to using an old-fashioned chassis, the entire tank has actually been redesigned, known as Type59G/Type69QM/VT1, and so on. They use turret designs and electronic equipment similar to the ZTZ99A tank (optional according to the budget of the purchasing country), but do not use automatic loading machines. They are specifically used for export to Southeast Asia and Africa. As for the 120mm gun of the mbt, it has actually been discontinued from development. Type59/69 has indeed experimented with 120mm guns, but this is because there are too many tanks that can suffer significant losses during the experiment (QN506 is also a similar consideration. A private company purchased the chassis of Type 59 tanks at a scrap price and installed their own company's developed gadgets). China has not officially equipped or exported mbt that use 120mm guns.
Why does ZTZ88/96/99 not use a 120mm gun and tail loading machine? Due to lack of experience and outdated technology. The shell used in PTZ89 has a very high charge, resulting in a huge volume of the loading machine and extremely high recoil when firing the shell. This is also why the PTZ89 has weak protection and such a foolish large head, and its maneuverability is poor (although it was not designed to maintain long-term maneuverability).
Maybe a PLZ 83-130 video when you do get it?
PLZ-83 bideo first
I'm surprised at how very few people play this, it's very underrated.
And undertiered TBF.
@@badrepputationNot really. It could be 9.0 at best, but the platform just isn't very good.
@@PAUL-ESNEED I mean, it faces unstabilized heavy tanks which have armour being the only thing they've got for them, armour which this shoots clean through without aiming. Maybe not undertiered but definitely a menace in a downtier and a menace in an uptier. It's not like I am saying this as a player without experience in it, I have about 100 games in it.
@@badrepputation there is a thing called obj 120, and yes PTZ89 do have a better round and reload speed, but it cannot compete with ture mbts like leo a1a1, of40, t62m1, or actual light tank like rooikat MTTD and hell even WMA301, mobility is important
@@badrepputation the real thing we need is br decompression, when T54s and leo 1s without STAB are at 8.0 that can meet all the 9.0, you'd thought 9.0 is a really good br, but if you play 9.0 you will find out you also get way outclassed by 10.0 (9.3 is actually even worse)
Clicked on the vid because I remember dying twice to a PTZ89 on Hurtgen Forest, lo and behold it was you haha. Pretty cool, first time I have noticed being in a youtube video.
I love how you are one of the only youtuber that enjoys playing china. All other WT youtuber barely even acknowledge china in the game
PTZ89 is such a extremely underrated vehicle, you rarely ever see them
I personally think that every tank in the game should have a scout drone. Having literal eagle eye vision is just way too much of an advantage to limit to only certain tanks.
One of the most underrated tanks in the game
This thing is so insanely fun
Get well, Justin.
Love your content my man keep it up, cannot wait to see your streams!
Finally some attention to this monster
I love the ptz89 so much, its really effective even at 10.7
I don't think tank destroyers should get UAVs because the light tanks on your team should be marking and scouting enemy tanks. It kinda splits the roles and, in my opinion, is better for gameplay
When you say "tank destroyers", do you refer to what the game classifies as a TD or what a TD is in real life?
Least give the open top TDs like the M113 or UDES scouting.
@@badrepputation I mean the tanks and vehicles that the game classifies as tank destroyers
@@badrepputation nope :3
I litreally just got this tank...I also watched your last video on it which was like 2 years ago. Was wondering when a new video will come out about it. Whats a coincidence
Very nice video!
i love you justin >_
I'm grinding China and my 8.0 deck is really cool and there are many cool tanks in the Chinese tech tree❤
Cant wait for the Kungstiger vid when it comes out
why? it's already in the game...
@@schwartzprime3045 you mean cuz it's basically a Tiger II ? I hope sweden mains don't get excited about it, cuz the 6.7 lineup is not great and will get full uptiers 95%
@@JaykeBlayde that's what i meant yeah, the skin it has later in the pass looks really nice, but besides that it's basically a reskin on an existing vehicle.
@@JaykeBlayde the 6.7 is decent as you get the PBV501 (bmp-1 w/o atgm) and the Bandkanon, as well as the charioteer, but if you go to 7.0 you get the ZSU-57-2
@@otlad Charioteer is 6.3 and is only good at rushing to cap a zone no reverse and no depression with a shell that shatters half the time. Bkan is only good for hiding behind buildings and waiting for bros to go by. PBV501 also fast but is made of paper no depression and unreliable grenade that can't shoot thru fencing/trees. You face IS-2, IS-3, IS-6, T34, T29 literally every single match. Nothing fun at Sweden 6.7, at all. And I'm using Level 150 expert crews on those also.
welp today my first day buying 25k golden eagles and i used your promo code so hope that helps out lol
The real weakness is the autoloader replenishment
Dont forget, this tank can fight the t32-E1 and the Is-4m...
So? It also has to fight the vidaar and that thing can fight even a tiger 2
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 correction tiger 2 is 6.7 while the vidar is 8.0 so in proper line ups they will never meet. The point i was making are Lasers and Darts are fighting super Heavies with long reloads and no technologies in which to fight outside of knife fighting in which No armor best armor syndrome serves much better found in these style of tank VS that of the superheavies
So like the titles of justins video is Reducing whats left of armor even more
@@SilverDawnbreak huh? I saw 2 or three vidaars on occasions in my 7.0 line up. And every single time there is always a king tiger
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 If your playing arcade then tech tree tiger 2 and the prem are 7.0 but most conversations are about Ground realistic in which Tiger 2 tanks are 6.7
Best 8.7 Tank Destroyer in the game
120mm 443mm dart, lazer range, full stabilize turret, good speed, 5 sn reload and 8.7 br. nice gaijin
So, maybe a Kungstiger video in the future?
Kungstiger? It's King Tiger or Konigstiger.
@@dense_and_dull That's what Sweden called it.
Will the PLZ 83-130 have a stabilizer? Do we know yet? Good vid 👍
Edit: nvm not stabilized 😢
Will you be streaming today?
Seriously need to get this vehicle, I’m so tired of t55ams and amds ruining all my fun
This thing easily deletes them xP
I love this tank. I've played about 600 matches with this vehicle. I'm an average player but I have 1200 kills in 600 games. The 5 second reload comes in very handy. And this tank surprisingly has a trolly armour and it survives a lot of hits.
The only big issue is the 14 degrees per sec turret rotation. You get screwed in city maps
i want an IS-7. it was my favorite tank in world of tanks before i stopped playing and im sad i cant play it in WT
It's nowhere near as good as in world of tanks, it has a pretty good gun but that is kind of where the advantages end for it, a lot of vehicles, like the one in this video, can pretty much kill it at any angle
Type 99 for sure
please do a type 99 vid. it is sooooo much fun
Begleitpanzer...not Beg Leit but Be gleit
Play the Ikv 91-105
How do I join your squadron?
Justin me and my friend were in that Flanders game with you and said hi but I guess you didn’t see it 😭
Can you give me tipps at 5.0? Pls im dying at this br
China is OP they have a APFSDS and laser range finder at 7.7
19:02 I actually think scout drones should have the ability to laser lock a target, to throw spike atgms at. yes from across the map
I Love CAS
"Sick intro" 😂😂😂
Justin I played a few matches w you and just wanted you to know this, I'd tk you : )
You sound dreadful haha 😭😭 Hope you get better soon...
3 diferent tipes of what XDDD
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