Děkuji Alexis, přes jazykovou bariéru, tak nějak poslouchám a dostávám se do klidu, aniž všemu rozumím. I když i dostávání se do klidu je iluzí, jen je mi dobře.
Thank you for pointing out the contradiction of Tony saying this is "the ultimate compassion" or something like that. You are right that with no Self there is no compassion. It's too bad though that you making any kind of point is also a contradiction. It doesn't really matter.. but it is just what's happening...in awareness... that's unconditional love
Alexis: “ waxing and waning of a dream of separation is an illusion’ ♥️ Ariane: “ The devil bite's dirty, we wax and wane, The devil bite's dirty, we wax and wane’ ♥️ My apologies Bjork 😅 for singing Cocteau Twins !!!
You must have thought that you got this, otherwise why would you keep repeating it, and what would be the purpose of it, if there is no one to get it. The truth is there is something to get, otherwise how have you got it, The mistake that's being made, is that your truing to say that non dual is the same as everything that is dual, and everything is non Dual, but this is the opposite to reality, Which is that non Dual is nothing to do with anything, not this world, or cosmos or whatever you want to call it, or the emotions and thoughts you have in it, The oneness of the cosmos, is consciousness, which does exist within it, But non Dual is not consciousness and cannot exist within it, so in fact is a totally separate entity, if we are to call it anything at all, so is not all there ever is has been or will be, and everything your saying is it, like everything arising out of this nothingness, is not arising out of anything, because nothing ever arose out of nothing or anything, apart from the delusion of a thinking mind, And whilst the mind is thinking, it's still trapped within that delusion. No matter how much you try to deluded yourself to the contrary, Non Dual is eternal, and contrary to popular believe so is the cosmos, but this does not mean they are the same, as one is real and one is not real.. And one did not arise out of the other, which implies that one came first and created the other, or there was a big bang, Which is all a delusion, of the thinking Dualistic mind, that cannot grasp, what Eternity is, and believes that everything must have a beggining and a end, and time and space, And how can you call others stuff when you don't even know your own, because none of you new age nondualist are saying much at all, just repeating the same old stuff, that Tony Parsons was saying a couple of decades ago now, and he wasn't saying much, because he don't know anything, or very little, or though he was following Osho for a while, but at least he had something to say, It's all Tony is saying or more taking on, the same as the rest that have followed him, is a strategy, where there, refusing everything, especially thing they can't answer, by saying you don't exist, so to answer there questions, would be just going along with they do exist, Which really is just a cop out, from answering what he cannot answer because he doesn't know, because all he knows is the tape recorder words that he keeps pumping out, which ain't nothing much at all, and can be grasped by anyone that listens, to the recording enoght, Which shows itself by the dozens if not hundreds of people that are popping up, claiming they are no dual, One for every walk of life. And this is when there have only been a couple of handfuls before, throughout recorded history, So forgive me for not being suspicious, that not everyone could be non dual, and there may be some bullshit floating about.
@hadynbarr5716 And you think Tony Parsons and this guy are not just another story. And this is why until the no thought point is reached, that the true sense of nothing is reached, until then, it's just another story, no matter how it is worded. And how much they try to make out, that there story is some how not another story, The story ends when the mind that creates them comes to a end, because how can no mind create anything, so how can no mind be a Story. Only the story of no mind which is the nothingness of non dual, But at least it is known how it came about, albeit the knower no longer exists, Which is a lot better than trying to make out it just happened spontaneously, one minute you were there, the next gone. Which in fact is a impossibility and outright lie, by someone who just cooked up a scam, and cashed in on it from day one, he figured that if Osho can say it happened to him spontaneously and he earned millions out of it, why can't I, But the problem with these spontaneous awakenings, if you believe them, is they have nothing to teach, because they don't know how they got there, What you supposed to sit around a wait till it happens to you, which can be assured is never going to happen, so it's all rubbish, and only people who can't do it the real way, are going to listen to, hoping there is a short cut. And there is not, a simple as that.
I listen to you more than Tony and Jim now - it's like you've taken the baton from them..😮
Děkuji Alexis, přes jazykovou bariéru, tak nějak poslouchám a dostávám se do klidu, aniž všemu rozumím. I když i dostávání se do klidu je iluzí, jen je mi dobře.
Brilliant!
Thank you Alexis for “this”
Thank you for pointing out the contradiction of Tony saying this is "the ultimate compassion" or something like that. You are right that with no Self there is no compassion. It's too bad though that you making any kind of point is also a contradiction. It doesn't really matter.. but it is just what's happening...in awareness... that's unconditional love
I totally agree with the notion of there's only what tis... 😊
Alexis: “ waxing and waning of a dream of separation is an illusion’ ♥️
Ariane: “ The devil bite's dirty, we wax and wane, The devil bite's dirty, we wax and wane’ ♥️
My apologies Bjork 😅 for singing Cocteau Twins !!!
You must have thought that you got this, otherwise why would you keep repeating it, and what would be the purpose of it, if there is no one to get it.
The truth is there is something to get, otherwise how have you got it,
The mistake that's being made, is that your truing to say that non dual is the same as everything that is dual, and everything is non Dual, but this is the opposite to reality,
Which is that non Dual is nothing to do with anything, not this world, or cosmos or whatever you want to call it, or the emotions and thoughts you have in it,
The oneness of the cosmos, is consciousness, which does exist within it,
But non Dual is not consciousness and cannot exist within it, so in fact is a totally separate entity, if we are to call it anything at all, so is not all there ever is has been or will be, and everything your saying is it, like everything arising out of this nothingness, is not arising out of anything, because nothing ever arose out of nothing or anything, apart from the delusion of a thinking mind,
And whilst the mind is thinking, it's still trapped within that delusion. No matter how much you try to deluded yourself to the contrary,
Non Dual is eternal, and contrary to popular believe so is the cosmos, but this does not mean they are the same, as one is real and one is not real..
And one did not arise out of the other, which implies that one came first and created the other, or there was a big bang,
Which is all a delusion, of the thinking Dualistic mind, that cannot grasp, what Eternity is, and believes that everything must have a beggining and a end, and time and space,
And how can you call others stuff when you don't even know your own, because none of you new age nondualist are saying much at all, just repeating the same old stuff, that Tony Parsons was saying a couple of decades ago now, and he wasn't saying much, because he don't know anything, or very little, or though he was following Osho for a while, but at least he had something to say,
It's all Tony is saying or more taking on, the same as the rest that have followed him, is a strategy, where there, refusing everything, especially thing they can't answer, by saying you don't exist, so to answer there questions, would be just going along with they do exist,
Which really is just a cop out, from answering what he cannot answer because he doesn't know, because all he knows is the tape recorder words that he keeps pumping out, which ain't nothing much at all, and can be grasped by anyone that listens, to the recording enoght,
Which shows itself by the dozens if not hundreds of people that are popping up, claiming they are no dual,
One for every walk of life.
And this is when there have only been a couple of handfuls before, throughout recorded history,
So forgive me for not being suspicious, that not everyone could be non dual, and there may be some bullshit floating about.
Cool story mate
@hadynbarr5716 And you think Tony Parsons and this guy are not just another story.
And this is why until the no thought point is reached, that the true sense of nothing is reached, until then, it's just another story, no matter how it is worded. And how much they try to make out, that there story is some how not another story,
The story ends when the mind that creates them comes to a end, because how can no mind create anything, so how can no mind be a Story. Only the story of no mind which is the nothingness of non dual,
But at least it is known how it came about, albeit the knower no longer exists,
Which is a lot better than trying to make out it just happened spontaneously, one minute you were there, the next gone.
Which in fact is a impossibility and outright lie, by someone who just cooked up a scam, and cashed in on it from day one, he figured that if Osho can say it happened to him spontaneously and he earned millions out of it, why can't I,
But the problem with these spontaneous awakenings, if you believe them, is they have nothing to teach, because they don't know how they got there,
What you supposed to sit around a wait till it happens to you, which can be assured is never going to happen, so it's all rubbish, and only people who can't do it the real way, are going to listen to, hoping there is a short cut.
And there is not, a simple as that.