LDS, Look into battery Desulfation, It helps defeat the consequence of using lead-acid in the battery chemistry. The plates on the batteries build up layers of lead-sulphate over time that insulates the plates from the electrolyte, reducing the batteries' overall capacity and reducing performance. A desulfator will usually create high voltage peak waveforms that break apart these crystals (lead sulfate). This is called pulse conditioning. After the battery has been desulfated (which takes usually a pound of battery per day so yours might take about 30 days=30 pounds or so) The electrolyte redissolves the lead sulfate crystals turning it into highly concentrated sulfuric acid just like a new battery again. Hope this helps :)
TCircuitry HD You can program it based on your battery specifications. It takes several hours to do it and you can either manually trigger it to do it or set it to do it monthly, which is what I have right now.
Commsprepper My charge controller (Morningstar TS-45) does an automatic equalization each month. You have to program it with the manufacturer specifications for the kind of battery you are using but then it automatically does it for you so I never worry about it.
LDSreliance Thanks for responded to my comment. Do you have experience programming the custom settings for charge voltages? I have not found any videos on the programming of Morningstar controllers. I am looking to buy a TS-MPPT-60 because I need the ability to set custom charge voltages to match Trojan batteries (13.2 float, 14.8 bulk, 15.5 equalization). Right now I have a Xantrex C35 and manual run equalization because the equalization voltage is fixed at one volt above the bulk setting. So when I have to equalize I re-adjust the bulk from 14.8 to 14.5 then start equalization.
Yes, I set mine. The directions that come with the charge controller are very easy to understand and well written. It has a chart of settings you can use for various types of batteries or (better yet) get them from the manufacturer. You just take off the cover of the controller and there are some dip switches that you set based on what settings you want. Pretty easy.
Yes, that is true. There are quite a few ways to test a battery. This video was more to demonstrate how to test the chemistry if you needed to. If you test a battery and think that a cell is bad this would be the next step to make that determination.
So I had charged my battery is up and all the cells where in the red zone and a couple didn't even lift a float. This was supposedly at a full charge when I took the measurements. Not a single cell bobbed up to the green line.
My car battery is in the red at the moment as I've been out of work & the car hasn't had a good run except today when it was nearly flat & I drove it to a job interview,it was a 92 kilometre trip in both directions which charged it up a bit. My car has a security system,LCD clock & odometer to run when the ignition is switched off so it has a parasitic drain on the battery. I hadn't driven the car since Saturday night so it was midday today I left & it was slow to crank over. My point is that the battery was at 12.42 volts (3/4 charged) when I got back & it passes the cranking test where it cranks at 10.1 volts for 15 seconds with the fuel & ignition systems disabled. When I bought the battery in 2016,the gravity was always showing in the white (fair) mark & that's its brand new measurement,its open circuit voltage was 12.42 volts then. I'm not sure how old it was then but I got the 420 CCA battery for $111 AUD on sale reduced from something like $170 AUD & maybe when I get a job the big 180 amp will charge it up more !
+TheSamhi You have to correct for the outside air temperature. There is a gauge on the bottom of the hygrometer that will tell you what correction number to use based on what the temperature is.
In case you are still interested, the subtraction of 16 is for temperature compensation. The exact same density of electrolyte will float the hydrometer to different levels at different temperatures. So you add or subtract based on the chart on the hydrometer to get a standardized reading.
Here is a great link to a part 1 of a series of the best tutorial on youtube on how to do so. th-cam.com/video/ecmDgoKK-UE/w-d-xo.html You can buy cheap desulfator circuit boards pre-soldered on ebay, buy more professional ones, or build them yourself.
I'm a layman when it comes to lead acid batteries. I'm as confused as before even after seeing your video. How did you get your temperature value of 16? Where did you measure it? Where did you suck the liquid into the hydrometer from? Nothing was explained clearly... Thanks for nothing.
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This is the best out of the four I've watched!
Thanks! I appreciate that.
LDS, Look into battery Desulfation, It helps defeat the consequence of using lead-acid in the battery chemistry. The plates on the batteries build up layers of lead-sulphate over time that insulates the plates from the electrolyte, reducing the batteries' overall capacity and reducing performance. A desulfator will usually create high voltage peak waveforms that break apart these crystals (lead sulfate). This is called pulse conditioning. After the battery has been desulfated (which takes usually a pound of battery per day so yours might take about 30 days=30 pounds or so) The electrolyte redissolves the lead sulfate crystals turning it into highly concentrated sulfuric acid just like a new battery again. Hope this helps :)
TCircuitry HD Yep, my charge controller does this automatically once a month.
Thats awesome. I wonder how long it does it for each month
TCircuitry HD You can program it based on your battery specifications. It takes several hours to do it and you can either manually trigger it to do it or set it to do it monthly, which is what I have right now.
How do you equalize your batteries? I have Trojan T-105RE batteries and they require a monthly charge of 15.5 volts to equalize the cells.
Commsprepper My charge controller (Morningstar TS-45) does an automatic equalization each month. You have to program it with the manufacturer specifications for the kind of battery you are using but then it automatically does it for you so I never worry about it.
LDSreliance Thanks for responded to my comment. Do you have experience programming the custom settings for charge voltages? I have not found any videos on the programming of Morningstar controllers. I am looking to buy a TS-MPPT-60 because I need the ability to set custom charge voltages to match Trojan batteries (13.2 float, 14.8 bulk, 15.5 equalization). Right now I have a Xantrex C35 and manual run equalization because the equalization voltage is fixed at one volt above the bulk setting. So when I have to equalize I re-adjust the bulk from 14.8 to 14.5 then start equalization.
Yes, I set mine. The directions that come with the charge controller are very easy to understand and well written. It has a chart of settings you can use for various types of batteries or (better yet) get them from the manufacturer. You just take off the cover of the controller and there are some dip switches that you set based on what settings you want. Pretty easy.
LDSreliance If you don't mind could I reach out to you when I get mine and work on the programming?
Of course. LDSreliance@gmail.com
You're going to want to test batteries while on float. Gravities reflect off voltage. Best way to check your batteries is internal resistance.
Yes, that is true. There are quite a few ways to test a battery. This video was more to demonstrate how to test the chemistry if you needed to. If you test a battery and think that a cell is bad this would be the next step to make that determination.
So I had charged my battery is up and all the cells where in the red zone and a couple didn't even lift a float. This was supposedly at a full charge when I took the measurements.
Not a single cell bobbed up to the green line.
My car battery is in the red at the moment as I've been out of work & the car hasn't had a good run except today when it was nearly flat & I drove it to a job interview,it was a 92 kilometre trip in both directions which charged it up a bit.
My car has a security system,LCD clock & odometer to run when the ignition is switched off so it has a parasitic drain on the battery.
I hadn't driven the car since Saturday night so it was midday today I left & it was slow to crank over.
My point is that the battery was at 12.42 volts (3/4 charged) when I got back & it passes the cranking test where it cranks at 10.1 volts for 15 seconds with the fuel & ignition systems disabled.
When I bought the battery in 2016,the gravity was always showing in the white (fair) mark & that's its brand new measurement,its open circuit voltage was 12.42 volts then.
I'm not sure how old it was then but I got the 420 CCA battery for $111 AUD on sale reduced from something like $170 AUD & maybe when I get a job the big 180 amp will charge it up more !
Yeah hopefully you can revive that battery.
hey man buy a desulphinator and desulphate your battery it works good
Why would deduct 16 from your number, Please explain?
+TheSamhi You have to correct for the outside air temperature. There is a gauge on the bottom of the hygrometer that will tell you what correction number to use based on what the temperature is.
Thank you much.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
@@LDSreliance Would it be more accurate to measure the temperature of the electrolyte.
can someone tells me why he subtracted 16?
In case you are still interested, the subtraction of 16 is for temperature compensation. The exact same density of electrolyte will float the hydrometer to different levels at different temperatures. So you add or subtract based on the chart on the hydrometer to get a standardized reading.
Here is a great link to a part 1 of a series of the best tutorial on youtube on how to do so. th-cam.com/video/ecmDgoKK-UE/w-d-xo.html You can buy cheap desulfator circuit boards pre-soldered on ebay, buy more professional ones, or build them yourself.
I'm a layman when it comes to lead acid batteries. I'm as confused as before even after seeing your video. How did you get your temperature value of 16? Where did you measure it? Where did you suck the liquid into the hydrometer from? Nothing was explained clearly... Thanks for nothing.