Turkish guy here. When British invaded, Russia helped us. When Russia invaded, British helped us. They rather prefer to have it under our rule in spite of the other enemy. And in time we have grown very good at maintaining this foreign balance policy in politics.
Anything happen in turkey is just automatic When we busy in ukraine war u not the smart 1 to exploite the political situation But india that humiliate us by transferring the benefit to u Ukraine is total lose for us not even bcoz u r lucky Our ally just dumb in the extreme
City population was only 50.000 during 1453 which was easy to control and assimilate. Now the city population is 15 million. Its nearly impossible for Europe or Russia to control and assimiliate the city, they can never transport millions of people to the city.
Thats a fairy tale that they tell you, the importance of the city was always its the strategic location, not the buildings. City had only 50.000 population before 1453, now the population is 15 million. The city turned into entirely different city and much bigger city after 1453.
There's still the possibility of retaking old constantinople as an overseas part of greece due to the greek cultural heritage. They don't need the entirety of istanbul
It was the Romans who built it. Still what Romans have built is not comparable to the city's current form. Turks expanded it into Asia and turned it into a megacity, almost a small nation on it's own.
British invaded istanbul during the nationalism movement but since people in allied forces were sick of war and greeks were defeated they decided to retreat. Also along with ruler of egypt who rebelled against the ottomans, and several countries like bulgaria and russia were pretty close to arriving istanbul but other countries, since it would shape the power incredibly, didn't allow and help the ottomans
The Greeks never attempted to take Constantinople back in the war of 1919-22 because it wasn't their target. Constantinople was under international occupation after WW1 and the Great Powers made it clear to the Greeks that they wouldn't take Constantinople. The Treaty of Sevres signed between the Entente (including Greece) and the Sultan's Ottoman Government in 1920 didn't give Constantinople to Greece. The target of Greece in the war of 1919-22 was to defend the Greek population of Asia Minor and the Pontus region from the aggresion of the Turkish Nationalists. That's why Greece started advancing deeper and deeper in Asia Minor (at first with the agreement of the Great Powers and then by herself) until she was finally halted on the outskirts of Ankara.
It’s surprising how much talk there is online about the "Reconquest" of Constantinople and the hatred toward Turks. This obsession with "reclaiming" the city comes from romanticizing the Roman/Byzantine past. It’s based on an idealized version of history that ignores the reality of what actually happened, like the internal conflicts, changing alliances, and the eventual decline of the empire. Empires rise and fall, and history is much more complex than a simple story of "good vs. bad." Romanticizing the past creates unrealistic expectations and fuels ideas like "reconquering" a city, which ignores how much things have changed. Istanbul is now a metropolis with a population larger than Greece, and this nostalgia disregards the tens of millions living there today, implying their erasure for the sake of a long-lost past, a past which is lost not only due to turks as you all know quite well. Ironically, the name "Istanbul" itself comes from the Greek phrase "eis tḕn Pólin," meaning "to the city" and it’s rooted in the very history that some claim to defend The world is moving forward in every way, but this kind of thinking is stuck in the past. Instead of fantasizing about something unrealistic, it would be better to focus on building understanding and working together.
Iberian Reconquista was not done in a day. Until this idea survives, the non-european turks will have to stay on alert, they will never be legitimized with a piece of Europe. Times change, and the old ways of war can come back, millions of non europeans can be repelled back at any time then.
Asking for another crusade after 1453 is pretty insane, consider the absolute disaster of the crusade of Varna in 1444 in which all of eastern Europe united.
Yeah for real. Most of Eastern Europe was absolutely devastated by the death of Władysław and left his constituent kingdoms bickering with eachother, on top of all of the humiliating losses at Varna
In the fourth to fifth centuries, the population of Constantinople is estimated to have been between 250,000 and 1,000,000. In 1453, Ottomans invaded the city which had declined to a village of 50,000. The city had long before the arrival of Turkmens lost its previous size and fame!
My friend, in 1878 after defeating the turks at Plevna and Shipka pass, the Russians had an open road to Constantinople. However, the western powers were wary of Russia's ambitions and they weren't going to allow it, so the Russians stopped at San Stefano and agreed a ceasefire. After the renaissance and industrial revolution, Constantinople fell out of interest from the west. No more crusades. And since there the greeks in 1821 choose an hellenic identity over a roman one, that meant no revival of Byzantine Empire, thus only the homogeneous Hellenic Greece was interested in taking Constantinople but still they were no match for Turkey.
If you want WWII subjects that many young people have never learned: Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939; Soviet occupation of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (1939, and the second time starting 1945); Katyn massacre; Irena Sendler; the Doolittle Raid; Operation Torch; invasion of Salerno; Monte Cassino; Anzio; Slapton Sands; Raoul Wallenberg; Stalin’s purges before, during, and after the war.
@@phoenix51472 Yes. All of these suggestions are from the past, and many of 60 Seconds Knowledge video subjects are about countries, empires, or people that no longer exist.
Great powers preferred much weaker player to own this city. Otherwise, British Imperial fleet would never leave the Bosphorus after 1918 or Russians would have already conquered in 1878.
Too strong of defenses and too many factions want to take it for themselves. Hence they are satisfied of the Turks for spite against each other. Next topic, why Israel haven't taken al-Aqsa mosque, please.
After 1750s Ottoman Empire wasnt that much powerful like in15th,16th,17th Centurys.Russia could be invade Istanbul in 1812 but Napolonic wars saved the day. İn 1829 ,Russia arrived 60 km near to Istanbul but Brıtısh Empire saved the day.İn 1879,samething happend again and Brıtısh Empire stopped Russia but for this ,they took Cyprus from Ottomans. İn 1839 ,Even Kavalalı Mehmet Ali Pasha( The Egypt Governer of Ottomans) beat Ottomans and came to Bursa and he could take Istanbul easily but this time Russia sent troop to Ottomans for support,France didnt suppoert Egypt and Brıtısh Empire supported Ottomans also and after that Ottoman Army menaged the beat his own Pasha!!! İn 1913 nearly end of Balkan war, Bulgaria almost captured Istanbul but Turks did good defence in the end. İn 1918 Allied powers(Brıtısh Empire) fınally took Istanbul but Russia supported Turkısh Natıonel Movement against them. Istanbul could be reqounquered a lot of times but We call this Diplomacy and Policy! ( I am Turkısh btw)
Considering the outcome of WW1, Turkey has been very lucky to maintain its actual territory. Costantinople should have returned back to Europe(also for geopolitical reasons) and other minorities deserved to be independent (Armenian and Kurdisish).
You don't know what you are talking about. City had only 50.000 population before 1453, now the city has 15 million population. Its transformed into something entirely different than before.
There is no sense in wasting resources to take this forgotten city, because the economic and cultural heartland of the world had already been shifted to Europe and North America. This city does not represent and value for the Western World. Russian's would be the last and the only one who is still interested in the symbolic significance of Constantinople since Russians consider themselves as the successor of the Byzantine Empire on cultural ground!
@@timurjack8773 I wll make my point more clear. With the defeat of ottomans and the disintegration of the empire, borders could have turned much worse for Turkey, if only the winners powers wanted to or Russia was still in. By the way Constantinople population in 1920 was roughly 1 million
@@tremannaik99in this world nothing is deserved its earned. Turks fought an independence war and beat armenians and greeks and EARNED the right to overturn the terms of their surrender in world war 1.
@@alicanmutlu7193 only because British and its allies decided not to intervene to get terms respected; than Russia too busy with its revolution. It was a peculiar situation that Turkey took advantage of .
There's still the possibility of retaking old Constantinople as an overseas part of Greece due to the Greek cultural heritage. They don't need the entirety of istanbul
Reconquest? Western powers were too busy fighting eachother while barely holding back the Ottomans from conquering all of Europe.😂 In modern times it lost most of its strategic significance.
Turkish guy here. When British invaded, Russia helped us. When Russia invaded, British helped us. They rather prefer to have it under our rule in spite of the other enemy. And in time we have grown very good at maintaining this foreign balance policy in politics.
Anything happen in turkey is just automatic
When we busy in ukraine war u not the smart 1 to exploite the political situation
But india that humiliate us by transferring the benefit to u
Ukraine is total lose for us not even bcoz u r lucky
Our ally just dumb in the extreme
your right you know history and your honest turk. that city location is too strong, they don't want to see it in the hands of europe rivals
City population was only 50.000 during 1453 which was easy to control and assimilate. Now the city population is 15 million. Its nearly impossible for Europe or Russia to control and assimiliate the city, they can never transport millions of people to the city.
It's a shame the Greeks who founded the city could not take it back.
The old city might just be a memory at this point
Haha, Greeks never founded the city. It's much older. Learn history 😂
Thats a fairy tale that they tell you, the importance of the city was always its the strategic location, not the buildings. City had only 50.000 population before 1453, now the population is 15 million. The city turned into entirely different city and much bigger city after 1453.
There's still the possibility of retaking old constantinople as an overseas part of greece due to the greek cultural heritage. They don't need the entirety of istanbul
It was the Romans who built it. Still what Romans have built is not comparable to the city's current form. Turks expanded it into Asia and turned it into a megacity, almost a small nation on it's own.
British invaded istanbul during the nationalism movement but since people in allied forces were sick of war and greeks were defeated they decided to retreat. Also along with ruler of egypt who rebelled against the ottomans, and several countries like bulgaria and russia were pretty close to arriving istanbul but other countries, since it would shape the power incredibly, didn't allow and help the ottomans
as for christian fantasy of retaking it, grow up since it's delusional and annoying for many people
We just gonna ignore this 60s takes 98 seconds
The Greeks never attempted to take Constantinople back in the war of 1919-22 because it wasn't their target. Constantinople was under international occupation after WW1 and the Great Powers made it clear to the Greeks that they wouldn't take Constantinople. The Treaty of Sevres signed between the Entente (including Greece) and the Sultan's Ottoman Government in 1920 didn't give Constantinople to Greece. The target of Greece in the war of 1919-22 was to defend the Greek population of Asia Minor and the Pontus region from the aggresion of the Turkish Nationalists. That's why Greece started advancing deeper and deeper in Asia Minor (at first with the agreement of the Great Powers and then by herself) until she was finally halted on the outskirts of Ankara.
It’s surprising how much talk there is online about the "Reconquest" of Constantinople and the hatred toward Turks. This obsession with "reclaiming" the city comes from romanticizing the Roman/Byzantine past. It’s based on an idealized version of history that ignores the reality of what actually happened, like the internal conflicts, changing alliances, and the eventual decline of the empire. Empires rise and fall, and history is much more complex than a simple story of "good vs. bad." Romanticizing the past creates unrealistic expectations and fuels ideas like "reconquering" a city, which ignores how much things have changed. Istanbul is now a metropolis with a population larger than Greece, and this nostalgia disregards the tens of millions living there today, implying their erasure for the sake of a long-lost past, a past which is lost not only due to turks as you all know quite well.
Ironically, the name "Istanbul" itself comes from the Greek phrase "eis tḕn Pólin," meaning "to the city" and it’s rooted in the very history that some claim to defend
The world is moving forward in every way, but this kind of thinking is stuck in the past. Instead of fantasizing about something unrealistic, it would be better to focus on building understanding and working together.
Iberian Reconquista was not done in a day. Until this idea survives, the non-european turks will have to stay on alert, they will never be legitimized with a piece of Europe. Times change, and the old ways of war can come back, millions of non europeans can be repelled back at any time then.
Totally agree
What is Constantinople worth?
Nothing.
Everything.
I understood that reference!
Asking for another crusade after 1453 is pretty insane, consider the absolute disaster of the crusade of Varna in 1444 in which all of eastern Europe united.
Yeah for real. Most of Eastern Europe was absolutely devastated by the death of Władysław and left his constituent kingdoms bickering with eachother, on top of all of the humiliating losses at Varna
Also city population was only 50.000 before 1453, now the city has 15 million population. Its transformed into something else.
In the fourth to fifth centuries, the population of Constantinople is estimated to have been between 250,000 and 1,000,000. In 1453, Ottomans invaded the city which had declined to a village of 50,000. The city had long before the arrival of Turkmens lost its previous size and fame!
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Then stop fooling around youtube and start making lots of babies.
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My friend, in 1878 after defeating the turks at Plevna and Shipka pass, the Russians had an open road to Constantinople. However, the western powers were wary of Russia's ambitions and they weren't going to allow it, so the Russians stopped at San Stefano and agreed a ceasefire.
After the renaissance and industrial revolution, Constantinople fell out of interest from the west. No more crusades. And since there the greeks in 1821 choose an hellenic identity over a roman one, that meant no revival of Byzantine Empire, thus only the homogeneous Hellenic Greece was interested in taking Constantinople but still they were no match for Turkey.
You're making me cry...
It's not too late.
You can always try.
Maybe its time.
If you are looking for subjects, how about the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa?
Or the Tunguska event of 1908.
Or Mount Pelee eruption in 1902.
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You mean the Soviet Union that no longer exists?
@@phoenix51472 Yes. All of these suggestions are from the past, and many of 60 Seconds Knowledge video subjects are about countries, empires, or people that no longer exist.
@@RealityOrganized Like the Eastern Roman Empire, as depicted in this video.
Great powers preferred much weaker player to own this city. Otherwise, British Imperial fleet would never leave the Bosphorus after 1918 or Russians would have already conquered in 1878.
Too strong of defenses and too many factions want to take it for themselves. Hence they are satisfied of the Turks for spite against each other.
Next topic, why Israel haven't taken al-Aqsa mosque, please.
Because of the British and French
After 1750s Ottoman Empire wasnt that much powerful like in15th,16th,17th Centurys.Russia could be invade Istanbul in 1812 but Napolonic wars saved the day. İn 1829 ,Russia arrived 60 km near to Istanbul but Brıtısh Empire saved the day.İn 1879,samething happend again and Brıtısh Empire stopped Russia but for this ,they took Cyprus from Ottomans. İn 1839 ,Even Kavalalı Mehmet Ali Pasha( The Egypt Governer of Ottomans) beat Ottomans and came to Bursa and he could take Istanbul easily but this time Russia sent troop to Ottomans for support,France didnt suppoert Egypt and Brıtısh Empire supported Ottomans also and after that Ottoman Army menaged the beat his own Pasha!!! İn 1913 nearly end of Balkan war, Bulgaria almost captured Istanbul but Turks did good defence in the end. İn 1918 Allied powers(Brıtısh Empire) fınally took Istanbul but Russia supported Turkısh Natıonel Movement against them. Istanbul could be reqounquered a lot of times but We call this Diplomacy and Policy! ( I am Turkısh btw)
Considering the outcome of WW1, Turkey has been very lucky to maintain its actual territory. Costantinople should have returned back to Europe(also for geopolitical reasons) and other minorities deserved to be independent (Armenian and Kurdisish).
You don't know what you are talking about. City had only 50.000 population before 1453, now the city has 15 million population. Its transformed into something entirely different than before.
There is no sense in wasting resources to take this forgotten city, because the economic and cultural heartland of the world had already been shifted to Europe and North America. This city does not represent and value for the Western World. Russian's would be the last and the only one who is still interested in the symbolic significance of Constantinople since Russians consider themselves as the successor of the Byzantine Empire on cultural ground!
@@timurjack8773 I wll make my point more clear. With the defeat of ottomans and the disintegration of the empire, borders could have turned much worse for Turkey, if only the winners powers wanted to or Russia was still in. By the way Constantinople population in 1920 was roughly 1 million
@@tremannaik99in this world nothing is deserved its earned. Turks fought an independence war and beat armenians and greeks and EARNED the right to overturn the terms of their surrender in world war 1.
@@alicanmutlu7193 only because British and its allies decided not to intervene to get terms respected; than Russia too busy with its revolution. It was a peculiar situation that Turkey took advantage of .
I still called it constantinople.. 💪🏻 we will have it back one day
Long time gone, Constantinople.
Nahhh sure in your wet dream 🤣🤣
It is owned by NATO today! No realistic power would dare to challenge American military power until the end of the 21st century
Lol, tragicomical comment.
Why was Constantinople not reconquered YET?*
Ever
😂😂
There's still the possibility of retaking old Constantinople as an overseas part of Greece due to the Greek cultural heritage. They don't need the entirety of istanbul
Reconquest? Western powers were too busy fighting eachother while barely holding back the Ottomans from conquering all of Europe.😂
In modern times it lost most of its strategic significance.
Conquest of Constantapole