So I bought the 7.5 joule version, with an 11 joule valve, and a power kit. After stripping the aluminum firing pin, I finally was able to get it out and make the change. In my haste, some pieces came dislodged. If it wasn’t for your easy to follow step by step instructions, I’d have a paper weight. Thanks man!
I know this is a old video but I wanted to say a huge THANK YOU!! I did a power upgrade on my TR50 and didn't want to take the shortcuts of the disassembly knowing that I would have springs everywhere. Followed the detailed and well explained instructions and everything went perfectly. Thanks again!!
Thank you - I found this absolutely the clearest and best video for fitting back together all those fiddly springs and levers in the trigger mechanism.
I got the TR50 7.5 Joule version. Then I went to HomeDefence-24 and got the HDR50 7.5 Joule version valve upgrade kit that made it 3 times more powerful. The pressure chamber in the 11 Joule version is smaller so not as powerful as the 7.5 Joule version With the Valve kit and remove the valve (throttle in the pressure chamber) Increases the performance to over 20 joules!
Wow! You didn't need to show how to replace all the springs and levers but Thank You a Ton that you did!! I tried to fix a problem and ended up with a ziplock full of parts. You saved my HDR50 For Sure. Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge!!
*_Thank you for such well put together step-by-step set of instructions!_* I left the C02 cartridge in my tr50 and broke the valve! So, I upgraded it following your instructions and it took me about an hour with all the double-checking (rewinding & play)!
I think the result of the change-over should have been part of this video. Simple before and after results of impact, velocity and overall hitting power demonstration really should’ve been shone here.
Impressive video. Could you extend the explanation of the internals. Especially how the gun actually shoots. What is different once it is under pressure. What exactly are the sequence of events when you pull the trigger, rotate the mag, push out the firing pin, actually fire and the retraction of the firing pin. It would be REALLY interesting and helpful to do a fully cycle explain video on the HDR50.
Damm I opened it and every spring flew out I thought I wasn't going to be able to assemble it together but you were very clear on how to position everything 😃
thank you so much, the springs had gone every where and I managed to put it back together. I then saw one spring out and new inevitably I would have to under do it all. was thanks to your video I saw it was part fo the sidewafds mechanism that helps the magazine turn. thank you sooo much for video, very helpful! 🙏
I have upgraded my T4E .50 Cal Revolver with a TR50 11 Joule Valve Upgrade. The video on the dis-assembly and re-assembly was great - I even took some pictures on my cell phone to ensure that I put all of the items together correctly. My problem is this,,,, after reassembling the unit, the cylinder does not rotate correctly. Is there a video on making the magazine turn available for viewing?
Instead of using a metal flat screwdriver to separate the halves of the pistol. You might want to start out using guitar picks. Guitar picks are made of a heavy plastic very thin very strong. Great way to start separating the two halves without scratching or marring plastic or painted surfaces
Leave springs, triggers and things in place (with left hand). Put in the bits and pieces from HD-24. For 25 ish joules. 8.3g chrome steel balls. Will need a sandpaper cigar to lightly sand out the chambers (not much) just snugg. Be careful now, you have something different.
why is it you have it on your website but you cant ship it due to you dont have the product in stock and you tell customer that you wouldnt have it til 2022 summer but you have customer cash already but no product ship
I screwed my TR50 up. I ordered the 11 joule valve and removed the block. I had an issue with a spring but got it back in place. When I fire the gun, the co2 dumps completely 1st shot and seems to jam. Could I have a trigger mechanism issue or can I not operate the gun without the valve block? I realize the heavy CO2 usage and I’m fine with that. I have my HDP 50 set up like this and I get 5 hard shots. That is enough for a self defense situation. Any advice is appreciated.
I just got a TR50 but haven’t fired it yet. The shots are very difficult to push into the clip. Yes, I’m pushing them into the clip from the downstream / barrel side, other side is impossible. I have .50 yellow pvc shot AND .50 cal steel bearing type shot, but neither push in very easily. I have two other Umarex guns (HDS68, HDP68) that have much looser tolerances and easier to load. Is this a problem?
I did this upgrade which I purchased from directly from ANSgear Paintball and after installation I inserted a new umarex co2 cartridge and fired a few rounds and put the gun away. several days later I went to fire the gun and all the co2 was empty! Before i did the 11 joule valve upgrade i would leave my gun fully charged with a new co2 punctured and ready to fire for weeks at a time and go to fire it and not a drop of co2 leaked at all. So someone please tell me why I'm now leaking c02 after valve upgrade. Called ANSgear and they told me to call umarex USA because he's never heard of someone leaving a punctured co2 in the gun for long periods of time and not leak. What am I suppose to wait for an incident to arise and need my gun then have to insert new co2 and wait to pucture it so I can fire a round or 2 and then have all the co2 leak out!????
I basically ruined my gun trying to install the 11 joule upgrade. Watched this video over and over while attempting to get all the fussy little parts back in working order and it doesn’t work. I have to take it apart again and try over…
Great video I'm waiting on an upgrade part for my T4E TR 50 and was wondering what was involved in installing it I don't expect it to go as smoothly as it was for you but you have probably done it a few times but I'm confident I will be ok I take wrist watches apart and clean then & reassemble on a daily basis I figure if I can repair old antique watches I cam manage this but I'm still saving this video for reference thanks for a awesome video
Hello, You are a good teacher, I went on your website, I would like to buy the one that is already upgraded with the new valve. I do not know exactly which one it is. Do you have a problem shipping to Canada. If you take the time to answer me, tell me which one it is.
what is the strongest hottesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst mods can you do to this ,can you at least get 30 joules with same barrel ? if yes ,then just think how much more after that 2 piece double length barrel set up !!!!!
Forget my last question figured it out that one little spring that go's into the triangle and comes to add tension moved and I missed it so I watched your video and saw what I did wrong 11 joules kicks ass🤪🤪🤪🤪
I have that doubt but it seems to me that it is screwed because I have seen another one that has grooves around it and it was a crimped valve. It seems to me that the ones with the two holes are screwed.
Il manque le plus important, la mesure au Chrony avant et après le debridage ! Si c'est pour gagner 2 ou 3 joules, le jeu n'en vaut pas la chandelle sans compter que ce genre de manips accélèrent le vieillissement et la fiabilité de l'arme 😕
Mine just arrived today and have ordered the upgrade. Hope all goes well lol. Thanks for a great video and your time to teach us the ins and outs. Will be watching more. Would love to get max power out of this beast
So I bought the 7.5 joule version, with an 11 joule valve, and a power kit. After stripping the aluminum firing pin, I finally was able to get it out and make the change. In my haste, some pieces came dislodged. If it wasn’t for your easy to follow step by step instructions, I’d have a paper weight. Thanks man!
This is the best instructional video on TH-cam about this marker. Thank you for going over each individual spring. Doing good work.
I know this is a old video but I wanted to say a huge THANK YOU!! I did a power upgrade on my TR50 and didn't want to take the shortcuts of the disassembly knowing that I would have springs everywhere. Followed the detailed and well explained instructions and everything went perfectly. Thanks again!!
Thank you - I found this absolutely the clearest and best video for fitting back together all those fiddly springs and levers in the trigger mechanism.
Hey there i installed the 11 joules valve system and ive only been able to shoot about 6 shots then the co2 is gone is that normal?
Agree
I got the TR50 7.5 Joule version.
Then I went to HomeDefence-24 and got the HDR50 7.5 Joule version
valve upgrade kit that made it 3 times more powerful.
The pressure chamber in the 11 Joule version is smaller so not as powerful as the 7.5 Joule version
With the Valve kit and remove the valve (throttle in the pressure chamber)
Increases the performance to over 20 joules!
I am waiting for 7.5 power kit to arrive and I know it won't be a full valve assembly like this. Does it come with instructions?
do you know how many fps its shooting at 20 joules?
@@rawbeejay
No, but the power kit must improve the power. I've just never seen a video for the 7.5 power kit.
@@danielquesnel130
Thanks. I'm still waiting for the Power Kit to be delivered.
I got the kit for the 7.5j the barrel and aluminium drum. Ammo maker too. It’s quite the marker now.
Wow! You didn't need to show how to replace all the springs and levers but Thank You a Ton that you did!! I tried to fix a problem and ended up with a ziplock full of parts. You saved my HDR50 For Sure. Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge!!
Same bro I thought I was fucked
Thank you Sir! This is the best step by step video on how to do this, which I did with no problems.
*_Thank you for such well put together step-by-step set of instructions!_* I left the C02 cartridge in my tr50 and broke the valve! So, I upgraded it following your instructions and it took me about an hour with all the double-checking (rewinding & play)!
I think the result of the change-over should have been part of this video. Simple before and after results of impact, velocity and overall hitting power demonstration really should’ve been shone here.
Impressive video. Could you extend the explanation of the internals. Especially how the gun actually shoots. What is different once it is under pressure. What exactly are the sequence of events when you pull the trigger, rotate the mag, push out the firing pin, actually fire and the retraction of the firing pin. It would be REALLY interesting and helpful to do a fully cycle explain video on the HDR50.
The best video on this I have seen yet, thanks. Can you use pepper balls after the upgrade
Get the pepper on ebay otherwise no
You really dont need pepper balls if you upgrade a 7.5. and use proper ammo.
Damm I opened it and every spring flew out I thought I wasn't going to be able to assemble it together but you were very clear on how to position everything 😃
I have 30joule t4e with plain steel balls, devils spikes and devastator hdr ammo. Valve block removed and powerkitV2 installed. Very powerful waepon
Thank you for this content, the best guide on youtube, very clear and precise.
lots of luck for your channel
Best step by step video out there thank you for all the details
thank you so much, the springs had gone every where and I managed to put it back together. I then saw one spring out and new inevitably I would have to under do it all. was thanks to your video I saw it was part fo the sidewafds mechanism that helps the magazine turn. thank you sooo much for video, very helpful! 🙏
I have upgraded my T4E .50 Cal Revolver with a TR50 11 Joule Valve Upgrade. The video on the dis-assembly and re-assembly was great - I even took some pictures on my cell phone to ensure that I put all of the items together correctly.
My problem is this,,,, after reassembling the unit, the cylinder does not rotate correctly. Is there a video on making the magazine turn available for viewing?
Excellent video! Thanks for just making an instructional video,,, instructional. I’ll be referencing it soon when my valve upgrade arrives.
I own this as well my wife carries it everywhere in her purse. I have all my guns set just above 450 on the crono ! 50 cal riot ball from Valken !
even at 7 joules, this thig packs a Whallop, can't wait to see 11 joules
Instead of using a metal flat screwdriver to separate the halves of the pistol. You might want to start out using guitar picks. Guitar picks are made of a heavy plastic very thin very strong. Great way to start separating the two halves without scratching or marring plastic or painted surfaces
Have you tried your luck in watchmaking and repairing mechanical time pieces !
You are a natural .
More Light Please. Thank You!
I just ordered the Home Defense Tactical Kit 2 from your website tonight. Pretty stoked for it to arrive so I can test it out at my range. HNY Folks
Thank you for your work and a fantastic explanation I have, I have a question, that valve, the valve tube is screwed in, right?
That screw hanging was driving me nuts! 😂
Leave springs, triggers and things in place (with left hand). Put in the bits and pieces from HD-24. For 25 ish joules. 8.3g chrome steel balls. Will need a sandpaper cigar to lightly sand out the chambers (not much) just snugg. Be careful now, you have something different.
My stock cylinders seem way way too snug. That sandpaper trick sounds like the ticket, thanks.
@@grintrap4455 Yes mate. a bit of round round sanding and trying will give you a nice heavy shooter. Got mine on the bed-stand.
HD-24 what is this and where can I buy it?
@@DDesigner123 Home Defense 24 sells things to upgrade your marker
Excellent very detailed tutorial helped me to swap out my 7 to a 20 and got me to subscribe thanks so much
How?
@@mohamedkallon1491 how did it help?
@@Nomadman4life how did you do it?
Thanks I used this ! Worked great. Hard to get screws out tho
why is it you have it on your website but you cant ship it due to you dont have the product in stock and you tell customer that you wouldnt have it til 2022 summer but you have customer cash already but no product ship
I know right?
Hi,
great video. How would we know if we have one already in gun please? The box says 450 fps. Its only a few months old. Thanks.
This is great! Thank you!
I followed your video step-by-step and installed the 11 joule valve but now the round magazine spins freely and is loose. What did I do wrong???
Great explanation, many thanks
A question, to remove the entire valve, do you need to disassemble all the clamps? It seems that
Great.
Excellent vidéo. Many thanks to you.
Awesome video. Thank you.
I screwed my TR50 up. I ordered the 11 joule valve and removed the block. I had an issue with a spring but got it back in place. When I fire the gun, the co2 dumps completely 1st shot and seems to jam. Could I have a trigger mechanism issue or can I not operate the gun without the valve block? I realize the heavy CO2 usage and I’m fine with that. I have my HDP 50 set up like this and I get 5 hard shots. That is enough for a self defense situation. Any advice is appreciated.
Sehr gutes Video! Danke
a diy spring compression tool seems like it would be easy to brew up for that barrel spring
Cmon it will take longer to fabricate that than it would be to do by hand😂
Cool video but if the camera was zoomed in more and the light was not so bright you could see a lot better !!!
This bud is for u
You can upgrade to 16 plus joules there is a utube vid on the kit and it’s super easy
I just got a TR50 but haven’t fired it yet. The shots are very difficult to push into the clip.
Yes, I’m pushing them into the clip from the downstream / barrel side, other side is impossible.
I have .50 yellow pvc shot AND .50 cal steel bearing type shot, but neither push in very easily.
I have two other Umarex guns (HDS68, HDP68) that have much looser tolerances and easier to load.
Is this a problem?
Wow there's no freaking way I'm doing that I should have got to 11 Joule version.
Do you do upgrade for a fee? What the highest power you can modify this air gun to?
What happens if you do not put all the screws on the outside cover in the correct place?
My 7.5 joules &11 joules valves have gotten mixed up. Is there a way I can visually tell which is which?
Yeah there's no way I'm doing that. I don't suppose some gun shop somewhere would do this for me for a price?
Why couldn't you use this for parts to upgrade the hdp50 as well?
Is that valve passing on TR 50 2gen 13j ???
Awesome video
does your ammo cartridge spin freely when you have no pressure on the trigger? just wanted to see if I got a lemon or if that is just the design
Has anyone tried a 3.5" 16g CO2 cartridge instead of a the standard 3.25" 12g cartridge?
when are you guys expecting all the umarex stuff to come in rory??? Also what version of the hdx are u guys going to offer???
I did this upgrade which I purchased from directly from ANSgear Paintball and after installation I inserted a new umarex co2 cartridge and fired a few rounds and put the gun away. several days later I went to fire the gun and all the co2 was empty! Before i did the 11 joule valve upgrade i would leave my gun fully charged with a new co2 punctured and ready to fire for weeks at a time and go to fire it and not a drop of co2 leaked at all. So someone please tell me why I'm now leaking c02 after valve upgrade. Called ANSgear and they told me to call umarex USA because he's never heard of someone leaving a punctured co2 in the gun for long periods of time and not leak. What am I suppose to wait for an incident to arise and need my gun then have to insert new co2 and wait to pucture it so I can fire a round or 2 and then have all the co2 leak out!????
I basically ruined my gun trying to install the 11 joule upgrade. Watched this video over and over while attempting to get all the fussy little parts back in working order and it doesn’t work. I have to take it apart again and try over…
Thinking about buying this just to shoot targets but I live in NY and well I dont know if it is permitted, never inquired
Excellent explanation there, thank you! Just one question: Is this TR.50 the same model as the HDR.50 in Europe/Germany??
yes its the same. in Germany its called HDR for home defense revolver
can you put that in water or can it handle water
Hi can you do this to the T4E HDP version, as I see it doenst have screws to open it apart?
Hello, great video! Can you do the same for Umarex m&p 9 T4e too? Thank you in advance. Sorry for my bad English I’m French 😅
Great video I'm waiting on an upgrade part for my T4E TR 50 and was wondering what was involved in installing it I don't expect it to go as smoothly as it was for you but you have probably done it a few times but I'm confident I will be ok I take wrist watches apart and clean then & reassemble on a daily basis I figure if I can repair old antique watches I cam manage this but I'm still saving this video for reference thanks for a awesome video
Feel free to give us a call @ (805)522-8700 & we would be glad to help you out with all of your questions.
@@ANSgearPaintball would it be a good home defense gun. Just wondering.
@@ANSgearPaintball i would like to see a video on the gun 🔫. Showing how strong it is.
Very you beautifil video... And you are very chef nthis contest!!
Hi , can you do this upgrade to the Pistol version? The T4E HDP?
I have the new valve from ANS Gear, where can I send it to get this mod done?
The 7.5 is best for tinkering.
Leaving the main spring compressed just cannot be good for long-term storage
how can you tell if its 7 or 11 joules? all it says that its 360 FPS.
Rory, my kit came with a valve in the box, labeled C571-D1 which valve is it? Thinking my 11 joule may be already installed.
May be wishful thinking.....
What is the number on your removed valve?
Did you put the pin in I never seen it
7.50 to 11j..Is it just the volym restrictor ?
Anybody know if the 11 Joule valve work with pepper balls?
I lost the spring at 18:12. Where can I get an other one?
Can you do this with the umerex hdp 50 pistol?
Rory from ANS Gear.....How bout some TECH VIDEOS my dude.
Yes
Hello, You are a good teacher, I went on your
website, I would like to buy the one that is
already upgraded with the new valve.
I do not know exactly which one it is.
Do you have a problem shipping to Canada.
If you take the time to answer me, tell me
which one it is.
Feel free to give us a call @ (805)522-8700 & we would be glad to help you out with all of your questions.
Where do you order these air guns do you have.a book to order
what is the strongest hottesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst mods can you do to this ,can you at least get 30 joules with same barrel ? if yes ,then just think how much more after that 2 piece double length barrel set up !!!!!
YOU REALLY HAVE AN EXPRESSIVE WAY OF DOING THINGS ,VERY UNIQUE !!!!!!!
i love how when spring shot out, you basically had ZERO reaction...bravo
Good video brother
How do we contact you for the upgrade. ? Sir
where can i order replacement springs
Can I send you my 7.5 joule version and have you upgrade it for me?
Forget my last question figured it out that one little spring that go's into the triangle and comes to add tension moved and I missed it so I watched your video and saw what I did wrong 11 joules kicks ass🤪🤪🤪🤪
Thanks for making this video, it will be very helpful when I go to do my upgrades on my HDR50. Do you know if they make a rifled barrel for this gun?
Is this valve crimped and threaded?
I have that doubt but it seems to me that it is screwed because I have seen another one that has grooves around it and it was a crimped valve. It seems to me that the ones with the two holes are screwed.
Can you still fire pepper rounds with this updated to the 11J kit?
Can you do the upgrade for me if I send it to you ?
how do you tell the difference of the 11 and stock one that comes with t4. i mixed them up. dont know which one which please help
🌞👍🥂☕
bad business not shipping product when its paid for
Il manque le plus important, la mesure au Chrony avant et après le debridage ! Si c'est pour gagner 2 ou 3 joules, le jeu n'en vaut pas la chandelle sans compter que ce genre de manips accélèrent le vieillissement et la fiabilité de l'arme 😕
Pain ball gun.
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I would ruin it.
PUSH CAP that's what it is called.
That crazy spring is not "a given" if your steady it will stay put. Just anticipate. Have a look at RUNE REBEL.
Mine just arrived today and have ordered the upgrade. Hope all goes well lol. Thanks for a great video and your time to teach us the ins and outs. Will be watching more. Would love to get max power out of this beast
Buena explicación sólo faltó zoom. Gracias 👍