500 billion high speed rail orders, why did Britain choose Japan instead of China?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- In 2020, the British High Speed 2 is planned to be constructed, and China is one of its qualified partners. Once the cooperation with the UK is reached, it will bring China 56 billion pounds of high-speed rail orders. However, in 2021, the British side suddenly announced that a Japanese company would be responsible for the project. How is this going? Is China's high-speed rail technology inferior to Japan's? In fact, China has made a lot of efforts to win this order.
China's state railway company said it could build the line in just five years and at a much lower cost, according to a letter seen by Building magazine. The CRCC letter, also been seen by the Financial Times, states: "We are certain that we can offer a cost that is significantly lower than the projections we have seen." "The advantages are, in our opinion, too great to dismiss on the basis that there are obstacles to overcome." "You will find that the Chinese way is to seek solutions, not linger on obstacles and difficulties."
However, on Dec. 9 2021, a joint venture between Hitachi, Ltd. and Alstom SA of France has won a £1.97 billion (about ¥300 billion) contract to supply next-generation high-speed trains for Britain's High Speed Two (HS2) railway line project. The companies announced that the venture will design, build and maintain 54 trains for the HS2 project, which will initially link London and England's Midlands region. They will 'deliver Europe's fastest operational train, capable of operating at maximum speeds of 360 kilometers per hour,' according to the Alstom website. So, as for China, which has such a sincere attitude and a world-leading high-speed rail technology, why did the UK reject it?
OK, in today’s video, let’s dive deep into this issue.
Why did we choose Japan? America made us NOT choose China. And we, of course, obeyed our masters!
As they say in Britain, "the proof of pudding is in the eating"... Just like they chose Nokia over Huawei in the 5G networks, a decision that be seen as foolish and unwise over an imaginary threat of national security concerns that the great peoples of the Peoples Republic of China ❤️ 🇨🇳 may have nanometre leprechauns embedded in their networks, but more like leprechauns stirred up by US CIA operatives... 🔥 🔥 🔥 MAKE AMERICA THE PARIAH OF THE WORLD 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🔥 🔥 🔥
Japan is their ally. I think it's enough reason why they chose them.
Dad became a son?
The bankrupt UK will not work with china, simple
Japanese people with experience in high-speed rail construction are over seventy years old! All young people should start from scratch! Bless England!
Not to worry. UK no longer has the money to do the project. Japan will regret this project.
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains.
The project will fail because Japanese technology is outdated and also Japan doesn’t have rare earth, which is essential in the making of trains..
@@bell-xk5dd
What sort of technology are talking about , dont you realise those critical parts in China HSR depend on Japanese component. Almost all or 100% China EC vehicle used Japan Nidec electric motor. Without those Kawasaki blue print in HSR, China had failed to build it own HSR ( 20 yrs trial but failed) including those simple HSR wheel supplied by German manufacturer.
@@Ukit50 pls post your evidence /links here
Probably won't be completed and good for Japan too because payments would never be coming. 🤣🤣🤣
Hope don’t regret when it delayed or cost over run and Japanese ditch the project don’t ask China for help
You know the cost will overrun. Nobody can predict every little itty-bitty scenario. How much it is overrun by is a different story? I figure with the UK pound dropping like a rock, the cost will be overrun by 100%.
China won't help them. It's about money and integrity instead of politics or engineering.
No surprise...UK is a US poodle that has to obey ...woof..woof.
And influence from PM’s motherland -- India.
Losing the Contract is hard to swallow especially so much hard work had been put in. However, there's a Chinese saying, "For the man at the frontier who has lost a horse may be a sign of good fortune, who knows?"
Yes, look at India and Japan now, 5 years past, nothing !
@@joelchoy312 Actually, the first trial run of India's Mumbai-Ahmedabad High-Speed Rail project (MAHSR), is scheduled for August 2026 between Surat and Bilimora (63 km).
@@anjalicgirl ok，By 2026, it was said that traffic would have to be opened in 2031.
Don't bother helping anyone who is extremely jealous and despises you. Even if after you have try your best and build it to a high standard for them, they will try to nitpick, find fault with you and spin it in a bad way for their people.
Like Donald Trump did to his sub-contractors. Some went into bankruptcy.
Never help a country which never appreciates one's help and kindness but in fact will turn around and hit you in the face... MAKE AMERICA THE PARIAH & UK THE PARIAH OF THE WORLD 🔥 🔥 🔥 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🔥 🔥 🔥
China should forget about all Five Eyes countries.
And that comedic country with the big I
It's their prerogative. After all they have been together anti Chinese. It does not matter they don't pick China. At least it gives China a clear message that all is still the same with their attitude, and that their relationship remains status quo for any future consideration.
Well, china COULD lay down her nuclear weapons and become a free republic with free and fair elections and multiple competing parties.
a sunset atitude means nothing🤪
Vietnam: The north-south high-speed railway is 1,000 kilometers.
Japan: Built before 2050!
Vietnam: Deal!
India chose Japan to build HSR. They started the project at around 2012/13. Skip to these days, the route has only built 10 km. All of the project is abandoned.
India will have 50km operational just before the next election. Modi will make inauguration and use this event as electoral propaganda
Indonesia choose China over Japan on their Train projects too, and is now completed.
@@ricflair4052 I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
Is the land acquisition completed? I heard some Indian farmers refused to sell their lands hence that is the problem for the delaying.
I believe India claim the HSR project with Japan is ongoing...
Japan already had 2 failure HCMC and India. Both till now are still unresolved. UK will be the 3rd hahahahaha
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
Probability is quite high and you can bet on it.
@@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 has to be but it doesn’t matter simple because when the Brit goes to IMF with begging bowls in both hands that’s mean they are going to drag the payment for the longest time then sue japan for setting up in a debt trap by doing so uk doesn’t need to repay those debt! Hahahaha
@@user-vp1vl6yp9t they always like the beaches so it has to have water sipping in the cabin.
Your information about first Indian high speed railway projects is totally wrong, the first piller was cast in November 2021 and by now more then 158Km of Pillers are already casted, in just 1.5 year also the main problem which come in a way of this project is land acquisition which is also solved, the current Target to run first Bullet train in india is set to be 15 August 2026 and rest of the route was open for public by mid of 2027, also Indonesia bullet train project ( 142km) was small then India's project ( 540km) so it's obvious it take more time
In 2006, Japan also won over China the contract to build a high-speed train system in Vietnam. The work was supposed to start in 2020 and the project was planned to be completed by 2050. I am not sure the construction work was started at this moment.
Outside of Japan, the only Japanese High Speed train is a 350 km system in Taiwan. Given the proven records of the Chinese high speed train systems in so many places, the UK choice of the Japanese companies was very interesting.
The first Chinese high-speed rail was ours made in Japan. It was completely surprising that China would then sell high-speed rail to foreign countries at such an early stage.
@@user-xr1hj7dp6d China bought its HSR technology from Siemens of Germany with all rights and blueprints, Siemens even sent technicians to assist. there were less than a handful of Japanese items on China's first gen HSR.
the first generation of China HSR was 99+% German.
The first batch of high-speed trains in China did indeed have 20% built by Japan, and the remaining 80% of the technology was transferred to be built in China. At the same time, we have purchased some high-speed rail technology from Siemens and France. Design a high-speed railway that belongs entirely to our own technology based on the problems that arise. Trains using foreign original technology have been basically retired and no longer in use.@@user-xr1hj7dp6d
At Xi Jinping's visit to Hanoi, Vietnam announced that it had rewarded China with the contract for the high speed rail line between Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City. In 2006, the plan was to work with Japan to build the railway but a combination of events delayed it until now. Japanese efforts never got beyond the planning stage.
@user-ii2lm6kg2g My comment is quite sarcastic. This points out the danger of a country like China, which does not have basic technological capabilities, easily manufacturing high-speed railways through reverse engineering under guidance from the state.
VERY good for UK to pick JAPAN to build their HSR. Let us just take note between UK and INDIA which country their citizens will able to ride HSR for their daily routine. They is no loss to CHINA as other poorer country in other region needs CHINA help to build HSR.
India chose Japan to build HSR. They started the project at around 2012/13. Skip to these days, the route has only built 10 km. All of the project is abandoned.
@@GeorgeMartinus Only 10km in 10 years?!?
YES! VERY good for UK to pick JAPAN, because Japanese trains are full of water and British knew that long ago. ONLY Japanese trains can satisfy the water need for British. UK is a very dry place just like a dessert and British need to shower and drink water all the time.
@@GeorgeMartinus I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains.
Exactly. China has her hands full building up Africa and Arabia.
Good luck to UK and Japan, I mean a lot of luck because there will be a lot of cost over-run and delays.
Don't worry, the UK will make sure the taxpayers will pay every bit of it. Japan will be so happy.
They will need a lot of luck. Because the project will not finish within this century!
They won't need luck. They'll need a miracle.
Japan isn't building the railway ffs, just a French/Japanese company partnership won the train contract because others couldn't meet requirements - there are many many tenders for companies to compete, China's CRRC is shortlisted to provide electrification, this isn't a whole railway solution package offered by a country like in Asia
Not surprising at all.
Well Japan had a lot of struggle in construction these days. High speed train in India failed miserably while China almost completed High speed train in Indonesia. Japan failed to build the bridge in brasil which collapsed few month after completion sue to bad quality. After choosing Japan over China (due to political reason :pro US) they turn back to seek help from China to build the bridge. I'm a little bit worried for this project in UK. It's going to a long wait and long delay to my point of view. Also cost lot more than expected.
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains.
Japan can’t build any electronic and electrical stuffs these days because they don’t have any rare earth. China is the only country that’s producing rare earth. Rare earth is essential in the making of all electronic and electrical stuffs....without this minerals, it’s difficult for any country to produce trains, cars, TVs, even rockets....
This is why so many American corporations moved to China in the 80s and 90s, because China has an abundance of of raw materials, cheap manpower and of course “rare earth”....this is why all iPads are made in China
Never Andre estimate the Great people of CHINA 🇨🇳 7000 years of history and hard work ❤️🇨🇳❤️🇧🇭
No loss to china, UK is a waste of time and money if china invests in uk, huawei 5g telecom equiment in will be completely removed in uk, also uk nuclear power station banned china working on it, and uk forced chinese company to sell its share in a uk semiconductor company in suffolk, so you see the pattern its a waste of time and money for china.
@@عبدالرحمنالخليفة-ذ3ل Since you mentioned history, share a point with you.
Historically speaking, the current is the second time China has exported luxury goods. For the first time, China exported porcelain, silk, and tea that only Western kings and queens could afford.
Generally speaking, there are two ways for humans to help each other.
First is with words, the words of the truth of Jesus or universal values, such as Christianity, democracy, and human rights, etc., which Christians are best at and spread worldwide. In this way, we need someone in control, even bombs, to involve the truth and values, which you have yours and I have mine, etc.
The second is with the material. Without truth, the Chinese have been spreading material stuff since the silk, china, tea, etc., on the ancient Silk Road to today’s made in China on one belt and one road. In this way, we need no one in control, for humans know what material they want, no involvement of the truth and values, you keep yours, and I keep mine, etc. So, bombs are unnecessary. The ancient Silk Road was generally peaceful; at least no world wars, let alone two WWs.
Now, you might know why the Chinese like Xi Jin Ping. The answer is history, consistent with history.
As an Indonesian, I just wanna say... that the Brits really missed out by choosing Japan over China. When it comes to HSR, China is better at everything, China's more commited, they need lower cost, and not to mention more willing to do a TOT for the HSR, Japan is terrible compared to that. If they need proof, just compare the HSR project in Indonesia (which was backed by China) and India (which was backed by Japan).
Given the current circumstances that the UK's economy is still weaker compared to Indonesia or India, I think this puts them in a harder position and raise the stake for the HSR project higher than before. They need to choose the country with proven competency, they need to choose China imo and screw the US' geopolitical standing if it doesn't align with the UK's national interest.
Just wish Britain 🇬🇧 good luck But will Regret Soon ..
I think the railway plan from Bandung to Surabaya will abandon Japan, because when Indonesians have experienced the high-speed train of 350 kilometers per hour, it is difficult to accept 160. Although Japan has the high-speed train of 320 kilometers, the experienced Japanese workers are all over 70 years old.
Let them......
It's a pleasure to learn there is more and more fellow Indonesian who understand the geopoIitical. Not like those wstern who always praising Japan. In Indo, we call them as 'Penyefonk Jepang'
Ritzy fakir makes the decision based on prejudice. He is installed exactly for that, to do stupid things. Believe me, you, he, like his predecessor, will be toppled in disgrace soon. You are too nice to tell those wankers how good China is, they don't deserve it. China has just dismantled the uncompleted nuclear power station over there for the same reason. It doesn't matter who take up any project over there, UK will go down the abyss before it's completed anyway. The country is melting down!! Japan won't get fully paid.
China please divert the USD 50 Billion to Indonesia, we ♥️ China. 🇮🇩🤝 🇨🇳. 🙏🙏✌️👍
our chinese love you ,too😄🥰🥰🥰
It is no point for China to bid projects in countries that are anti China eg ... US /UK/Canada/Australia/ India and EU countries..
Safe it for other countries that really need it at lower costs rather than those richer countries...
Those are not rich countries. Those are big spending countries with huge debts that they cannot afford or repay. Living well on the credit card LOL. Wait until the bill comes due (soon) and they are bankrupt! Like UK, already. Bailed out in October, but nothing changed so the UK will be even worse again soon.
Yes. Anti China countries will always find faults with China no matter how good the deliveries will be. Better for China for sure. A good example is how happy is China now with Indonesia while India and Japan now have the biggest problems of both unhappy with the fast train contract.
Good luck UK. I can bet it can’t even be completed within 15 years. Over the top cost and UK’s own bureaucracies will make this complicated to complete this mega project
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
China has rejected UK offer for the Railway project, it is not the other way around.
UK has short memory as their first set of trains from Japan was raining water inside its car when it was initially launched. No lost to China as this deal is politically motivated and not based on economic sense. Perhaps UK should just decouple from China entirely.
It's amazing China has not learned anything from the anti-China rhetorics by the US and UK (and Aus). UK cancelled the nuclear power plant project, the Huawei 5G project and now the HSR project. When is China going to learn? China is better off helping poorer nations of Africa, Latin America, Middle East and Asia. At least you will be appreciated there.
Hope they dismantle all the Huawei equipment in the UK quickly, then they won't have Chinese 5G and also 4G. Brits will have to learn to live with 3G.
They are businessmen, they go to where there is business.
anti China rhetorics is very much created by American and British media.
UK cancelled power plant, huawei 5g and hsr projects have nothing to do with anti China rhetorics, it is a politicial decision made by the US, UK must follow, no choice.
China started work in 6G for some time already.
Lots of laugh as after destroying whole Mumbai High speed project and Karachi Mass Transit Project UK is the next target for old age Japanese to waste time and money high five to Indonesia who pick China over Japan for their Bullet Train project despite a lot of hurdles they delivered it ahead of time and it will be operational in few months for public
HSR project in India is delayed due to land acquisition problem. In the state where Mumbai belongs, only 75% land have been acquired. In the other state where land has been acquired, piling is done for 162 km and 79 km pier work is completed. There is also technology transfer and local contractors involved. On top of that Japan is providing loan at very low interest rate. India is not like China or Indonesia where you can just declare a project and the government will be able to build it build it. The government has to give huge amount of money to private land owners to aquire their money. Chinese don't know what is happening outside their country.
@@aravindkartha5145 they faced the same situation in Indonesia as well and as you don't know I tell you about Java Island that its has most unrealistic situations in terms of Floods, Heavy rains, Tsunami, Typhoons apart from all these situations there is also transfer of technology for Indonesia for 350 Km Per hour speed not the slower one for India.
@@aravindkartha5145 Japanese destroyed our whole mass transit system of Karachi which was to be completed by 2018 and its now also dragged to 2026 as well. They underestimate things initially and then increase cost
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
@@saroshsiddiq I said land acquisition is the main problem. If there was land acquisition problem, then Indonesian railway project would also not be completed. They waited for land acquisition to be completed, but when one state was not co operative they changed the strategy and started to build in the other state. In any case, bullet train are not urgent and important as India has locally built semi high speed trains that can run at 160 km per hour. In democratic countries land acquisition is a major issue. Those who are under dictatorship won't understand it.
And if Britain get’s the same treatment as India, that’s just sauce for the goose!!!
It's ok. Great Britain is broke anyway and won't have enough money to pay for the railway.
you got that right
London: Who cares about the cost, who cares about the quality: As long as I could please my foreign master, lick his foot, our country and our people can suffer the loss!
British people must pray that Japanese people with experience in high-speed rail construction are still alive!
Don't worry, the new Japanese people will read their notes and practice hard. Just don't tell the UK about it. Budget overrun will likely be 150-200% of the original cost. Most of it will be to bring the legacy up to speed in the tech.
You are a small country. Never ever forget that.
Selection not based on merit instead on geopolitical reasons. Wish India, UK and possibly other Asian countries like Vietnam and Philippine good luck when they go Japan! It is afterall a free market... They are willing to pay and bear the efficiency.
Dont make fun of money
The information about first Indian high speed railway projects in this video is totally wrong, the first piller was cast in November 2021 and by now more then 158Km of Pillers are already casted, in just 1.5 year also the main problem which come in a way of this project is land acquisition which is also solved, the current Target to run first Bullet train in india is set to be 15 August 2026 and rest of the route was open for public by mid of 2027, also Indonesia bullet train project ( 142km) was small then India's project ( 540km) so it's obvious it take more time
It would be unrealistic to expect China to win all HSR contracts even if it is the best value for money. UK in particular has been operating an anti-China policy following the American's line so it would never give any contract to China on HSR or nuclear power construction after banning Huawei. It is UK's own way to construct one of the most expensive HSR.
One aspect of HS2 stands out pretty odd. If the rolling stock, with 54 trains plus a maintenance period of 12 years, awarded to Hitachi and Alstom consortium was less then £2 billion then the remainder of the rumoured £200 billion would just be the civil engineering cost?
China hands are so full. Nepal rail need 10 years. And China to Thailand etc……anyway China knew UK soon will be begging from IMF so better lay off another potentially heavily indebted country.
Do they even have the money?
@@ronniechew6566 money is no problem...borrow, beg or steal?...or print?
@@ohmikesroh5904 Oh right. That should do it 🤣
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
Even in the face of a bleak economic outlook, Britain still places ideology first, even when considering economic matters. The glory of this country is gone, as can be confirmed from the way of thinking of its politicians and people.
From another perspective, you can say the Brits are principled people incorruptible by money.
High speed rail orders, Britain chooses Japan. Because Modi chose Japan, so will Sunak choose Japan.
Rishi Sunak: Golden era of UK-China relations is over because his wife's familly business are mostly related to India , not China.
which is why the UK citizens should get him out of power
In all this, everyone has forgotten the Laos HSR, which is already running and operating to the satisfaction of all. In spite of the tough terrain in Laos, China finished the project and will be extending the rail line to Thailand. So it is not just in Indonesia but also in Laos that the world should look. Also don't forget in Africa, China has finished several railway lines.
Lol. Laos railway is not high speed rail but a semi-high speed at 160km/h while a true hsr speed is above 300km/h
Loa HSR project was very difficult due to rough terrain. British HSR will involve politic, built up region and unionized labour. Good luck Japan.
@@namazlur78 Lao HSR has a maximum speed at 200km/h, operating speed at 160km/h.
Only China in the world has experience in building high-speed railways on all terrains
Twice the cost twice the time. Go Japan 😊
Politicians will ruin that country.
China trade with UK must be reviewed asap.
Uk has no it's own identity.
The UK is not an independent country anymore, it has to listen to its masters the WEF and Washington.
I hope it will not be regretted later, just like all major bad decision-making?
Another flop waiting to happen. Just wait and see.
Why did Britain choose Japan over China? Well, probably because the Americans told them to. That's usually the reason.
The cost of HS2 is going to go up yearly as shown by the Indian - Japan HS rail in India. They were expensive and dealys after delay in India. India and Indonesia had the simmilar schedule of HS rail and Indonesia was the one who show the world their HS rail in the G20 build by China while India is still waiting!!!!!
But it’s not yet completed. And now with crashed technical cars
@@lavish4094 Japan has built about 10 kilometers of high-speed rail in India, and China has built about 142 kilometers of high-speed rail in Indonesia. 10km vs 142km.
The Japanese build 1.6 kilometers of high-speed rail every year, and it will take 318 years to complete the entire Indian high-speed rail project.
LMAO...
Your information about first Indian high speed railway projects is totally wrong, the first piller was cast in November 2021 and by now more then 158Km of Pillers are already casted, in just 1.5 year also the main problem which come in a way of this project is land acquisition which is also solved, the current Target to run first Bullet train in india is set to be 15 August 2026 and rest of the route was open for public by mid of 2027, also Indonesia bullet train project ( 142km) was small then India's project ( 540km) so it's obvious it take more time
@@sanatanihindu3089 let's wait and see.
@@josephguo3429 180km Pillars and 70km viaduct is already completed, Indian high speed project is more complex then British HSR Because there are 30km under sea tunnel is being constructed in Mumbai and 3 station are fully under ground and 4 bridges are being constructed on rivers and size of Indian HSR is almost double so it's obvious it take more time
It's like Nokia choosing Symbian over Android from back then.
If you wanted political satisfaction give the project to the JaPENIS. If you want economic and business satisfaction then award the HSR to China.
British population density is low, constructing an expensive HS2 is wasted of taxpayers' money. Moreover, Scotland and Northern Ireland are seeking for independent. UK government changing too frequently without a goal/policy consistency. There are too much uncertain factors to HS2 project. British chose Japan to build HS2 is equal to announce that the project is just a drawing to win election, not a real project.
In my opinion, I can see the HS2 project will be end up to be cancelled as lost of control on cost and project delays. The fact of the new nuclear power plant project was cancelled by UK government, I think Chinese company has learnt a lesson on it and does know how to avoid stepping on a trap, and passing a trap to Japanese company to step on as they do in Vietnam and India high speed rail projects.
Also Wales wants to leave UK, lol. There will be nothing left. The entire UK will be smaller than a city in China or India, lmao! Oh how the arrogant have fallen!
@@davidrichards1741 That's the reason of US and UK are working together to push world war III. When their economy collapses, war is the best way to shift the focus.
It doesn't matter, British taxpayers will pay. And politicians will take their own money and give the mess to someone else, without any responsibility.
Japan was prety good at constructing Burma railway with POW slave from UK!
very smart of sunak to choose Japan which has 3,000 km of hi-speed versus China's 40,000km...guess smaller is better as the saying goes...vietnam after 10 yrs of delay by Japanese to build hi-speed, gave the contract to China...there will be delays, costs overrun, but that is the decision...oh well
The title of this video is totally misleading and misses the mark completely and so are your comments,ignorance is indeed bliss. The HS2 project is one of the largest rail engineering projects ever undertaken by the UK but it's nothing new nor unique. Ever heard of HS1 or the Eurostar? In case you haven't it was Britain's first high speed rail link to mainland Europe built nearly 30 years ago now by Britain and France and was in fact more of a challenge to construct than the current HS2 project since it also involved tunnelling almost 50km under the sea as well and the Channel tunnel is still the world's longest undersea railway tunnel! Japan is NOT constructing the whole HS2 rail project but is only responsible for building the trains along with the French company Alstom in a joint venture with Hitachi trains,which incidentally has been successfully manufacturing trains in the UK now for over a decade.The tunnels will be built by the Swedish firm Skanska while the bulk of the tracks and rail infrastructure will be built by a consortium of British firms comprising Balfour Beatty,Carillion and Costain.I have no doubt whatsoever that HS2 will be successfully completed just like Britain's other rail project. In case you have any doubts just look at the recently completed Elizabeth line linking London to the surburbs. It was Europe's largest construction project at the time and was technically one of the most challenging engineering projects ever undertaken since it also involves tunnelling in between existing Tube lines in Central London as well as constructing new stations in the middle of a busy city while trying to ensure minimal disruption! In a nutshell you couldn't have a better trio of countries to construct a high speed rail network: Britain,the inventor of the steam engine and the modern railway system,Japan,the inventor of high speed trains and France, the pioneer of European high speed trains and network. So,in summary in case you haven't already guessed, Britain is NOT India or Vietnam!🤣😂
we have a stupid government in the pockets of America ,china builds 34,000 miles of hs in the time uk built 45 miles ,as an englishman and a fan of Brunel this is so embarrassing
Not for us to judge their choice, they were the hegemony, they have great influence that projects their aspirations.
Best decision the Brit has made, congrats! Your big brother proud of you.
The last railroad made by Hitachi has water leak int eh first day of operation in the UK.
Because Britain want to follow India to choose Japan.
no worry! hindian and brits can patiently wait till their next life for the high speed train, LOL, #FreeOkinawa #FreeKashmir
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@@taiwanstillisntacountry th-cam.com/video/nbpH6Tc4moY/w-d-xo.html
Delay due to land acquisition.
Btw India semi hsr running successful on old tracks . No new track require. Very much low budget world class semi hsr
London or UK is a failing society with or without high-speed railways and probably will collapse before Japan finishes the whole HSR project in 2069😂 Right now obey the order from your master United States of America to be a good boy:)
lol
I am happy UK chose Japan over China...Let them learned the lesson like India and Vietnam. May be the cost will increase further due to delay..
Best of luck to UK for making the decision to offer Japan the life line to build the HSR. UK is a good friend of Japan that should aid each other in time of needs. I doubt China will be too bothered by the project loss as their hands are tied.
No loss to china, UK is a waste of time and money if china invests in uk, huawei 5g telecom equiment in will be completely removed in uk, also uk nuclear power station banned china working on it, and uk forced chinese company to sell its share in a uk semiconductor company in suffolk, so you see the pattern its a waste of time and money for china.
Just wait until it cost 3x the Initial cost and delayed by a few years, see India's high speed rail that Japan is building
@@riceball4u172 Actually, the first trial run of India's Mumbai-Ahmedabad High-Speed Rail project (MAHSR), is scheduled for August 2026 between Surat and Bilimora (63 km).
@@anjalicgirl By 2026, it was said that traffic would have to be opened in 2031.
@@user-hx4jq3qz4c How many of the high-speed trains in China are financially viable? How many collect enough in ticket sales to even cover the interest on the debt? This is what happens when decisions are made by decrees with no Democratic debate.
It is a blessing that China is decoupled from this HSR and Nuclear power project. UK is already financial crisis and will not be able to pay. Japan must be wise to ask for progressive payments as the projects roceed or regret for non payments!
UK is a country too strongly influenced by the US and it is highly likely that any contract reached by China and the UK could be cancelled by US pressure. China should concentrate building infrastructure for countries which are friendly to China. Good examples are the Arab countries in the Middle East recently visited by Chairman Xi Jinping.
If Britain choose china, when it finish, they might have to take it apart after US told them it was a security risk. 😂😂😂😂.
Sebagai ras China saya lebih suka Inggris memilih Jepang sesama pembenci China, China cukup menonton sajah , tidak perlu mengemis dan mengharapkan pekerjaan karena masih banyak sahabat yang memerlukan China.
Any business deal base on politics will fail miserably. God luck UK.
chinese dragon doesn’t care.
What shocked me the most was that the UK cannot complete this project on its own
Careful! Careful! Never trust those who simply tear up contracts and agreements with the snap of their fingers. To the leader, it's "My Country First", and to its lackeys it is "Do what 's told"!
Who deals with the CCCP anymore 👎🇬🇧
Congratulations UK... all the best..
I remember that Brits had a VERY wet experience on Japanese trains. Am I wrong?
India failed miserably with HSR due to Japan incapability to finish in time and now UK wants to follow the India’s footstep, UK will waste their time n money due to this new India decent PM incorrect visionary.
It's land acquisition problem not Japanese side.
Whoever comes up with the plans that can serve best the host nation, wins the contract. However, China's HSR track records locally and in other countries do speak for itself. Then again, it is simply a freedom of choice, and best of luck to those winning contenders.
There is no competition. The UK threw China out of the competition. Other countries don't have the expertise to take on the project. So Japan wins by default. Now the question is, will Japan finish it or will it be another India.
India threw China out of the bidding for trains as well after they saw the disaster of the Chinese trains in Pakistan that had to be scrapped in less than 5 years of service due to poor quality.
Let me put it easy. How many km HSR have japan built in recent years? China have built 44000 km HSR in recent years. How about Japan? It's long time ago they built HSR in japan. Their skilled engineers and workers have retired. Two trains they built for Taiwan killed 100 people and one bridge for vietnam killed 50 people. Their newily built train for UK just got raining internally when first operation. Japan has lost a lot capability of infrastructures though they still dress good suits bowing to you. You see their failures in India and VIenam.
More expenses,more longer and possibly never finish.
Because the US told us too.
Just to be clear the Uk did not choose Jaoan but France for its hs2 project .The 54 train supply is a 50/ 50 collaboration between Hitachi and Alsthom ,the infrastructure rails tunnels is again a french company Systra 50/50 with Mot mc Donald , and the biggest train sration in the Uk will be build by Systra. The japenese input is only limited to 50% of the trains in the overall project.France is the major partner in this project.
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Good to know
UK likes to pay more, they already doing it with the Gas and now the HSR.
It is OK for Japan to win some projects. That will also spur improvements in technology on the Chinese part, and make China better. If there is no real competition, there will be no improvement.
Of course, the UK is terribly scared of China; moreover it is under coercion all the time, in all fields, by the Global Thug (which is the USA of course). Well, let the UK make its own decision.
It’s in their blood and never failed practicing it. The project main contractor appointed has to be his friend and relative they then sub contract it to another contractor. In between they pocket part of the money that’s how it work when Indian hold high public appointment. Look around you isn’t that what it always practices?
It is UK’s loss. Expect delays and maybe significant budget overblown. Good luck. Hope it will not be another India fiasco.
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Britain does not do fair market and competition. We should sue British railway to the court. Or punish it.
"Congratulations" to UK ! God helps you.....
Sue British railway company in the court. Apply punishment and sanction on relevant companies.
Hope no cost over-run. best of luck to U.K n Japan..
India chose Japan to build HSR. They started the project at around 2012/13. Skip to these days, the route has only built 10 km. All of the project is abandoned.
Britain will be waiting for next 20 years to completed ,the Vietnamese and Indians already waiting 16 years and still waiting.....
Japan is facing huge problems in cost overruns in high-speed railways. Commodity prices will rise in the future and these countries will face drastic delays.
The answer is simple: both the UK and Japan are colonies of the US, China is not.
looking at india's high speed rail, i am excited to see how much money they are going to lose, haha
Choosing the inventor over the knockoff seems to be a logical choice
American invented car, so car buyer only have one option ?
UK funny. As an Indian, keeping politics aside, this is gonna be further disaster. More expensive and time consuming plus Japan does not have the standard technology at present when it comes to China. UK economic crisis will get worse but their King, prince etc in royal family will enjoy luxury lives and their PM as we know will do only talking and to worship US.
You are the smartest Indian i see on UT.
Thank you.
No hate, no BS, just facts.
Watch: Ruchi in China, for the real China.
It's a blessing in disguise for China to lose the bid to Japan in HSR project in India.
Indonesia project was just only 142km long on the other hand India's HSR project is almost 4 times bigger then Indonesia about 560km so it's obvious it take more time
Also the information about first Indian high speed railway project is totally wrong, the first piller was cast in November 2021 and by now more then 158Km of Pillers are already casted, in just 1.5 year also the main problem which come in a way of this project is land acquisition which is also solved, the current Target to run first Bullet train in india is set to be 15 August 2026 and rest of the route was open for public by mid of 2027, also Indonesia bullet train project ( 142km) was small then India's project ( 540km) so it's obvious it take more time
Can anyone tell me how many railway lines that was built by Japanese outside Japan that is running today? Where, how many and in which country?
As I know, Vietnam also hired Japanese to build its hsr, but it’s never finished. Basically Vietnam is begging China to build it now😂😂
@@danceonwindthere is no HSR in Vietnam. There is a Chinese built metro line 13km long, that took over 10 years to build. LOL
@@bttnat439 at meanwhile, japan was supposed to build another metro in another big city in Vietnam at the same time, but it hasn’t completed at all and don’t know when it will be completed neither. The PR of Vietnam just visited China last Month and begged china to build hsr in Vietnam.
@@danceonwind The metro in Hanoi has been losing money since opening hence there is no metro line planned for other big cities. The one in HCM city would be finished in 1 or 2 years they already imported some trains from Japan. No HSR in Vietnam because there is no demand for it.
Can any1 tell me why poor India is ranked 107th on the hunger-index of only 116 countries???
It would too risky to invest in any geopoliticallly hostile country like the US and UK as these govts are intent to torpedo any such investment projects!
The leaders of new China will be wise to seek developement in Russia, central asia, middle east, Turkey and friendly eastern european countries. New friendly country like Italy is worth looking into.!!
Italy got Hitachi /Alstom HSR in service that commute between Paris to Milan and vice versa
You forgot Africa.
You chose Japan so later you don't cry to China 🤣
Uk has always had a rather strangely unusual bonding with japan, even before and during Sino-japanese War that diplomatic, military and trade exchanges went on as normal. On TV or social media, they tend to like to associate themselves with anything japanese not Chinese. It's very perculiar how their mind works.
UK/US, what is the difference? They are both birds of the feather. If the US is controlling Japan, of course, the UK will use that. Japan just needs to make sure the UK pays the bills instead of giving them the shaft.
they both have narcisstic behaviour in their cultures?genocidal tendency is one aspect that is common to both?
Especially considering how British POWs were treated. In the old days, it was the British who built trains for the Japanese. Burma anyone?
The UK has no choice. Japan is UK's Hobson's choice. China has given up having anything to do with the UK.
It is a wise choice for UK to choose Japan for its HSR, just like India which choose Japan for it's HSR in which only 10kilmeters of the rail has been completed after so many years and will be completed in 2028 for the rest of the few hundreds bof kilometers.
I love the irony of the UK asking others to help build it trains in the 21st century...being the original inventors of the steam engine :p
The average Chinese person is a decade and a half younger than UK
Japan actually offered a loan of $ 13 billion to India 🇮🇳 with an interest rate of 0.1% to be paid over the next 100 years after the railway line becomes operational. That's too good a deal to reject. The delay in the construction is not a fault of japan, Japanese companies are hardly involved in the construftion. It has to do with indian bureaucracy.
Bro the information about first Indian high speed railway projects in this video is totally wrong, the first piller was cast in November 2021 and by now more then 158Km of Pillers are already casted, in just 1.5 year also the main problem which come in a way of this project is land acquisition which is also solved, the current Target to run first Bullet train in india is set to be 15 August 2026 and rest of the route was open for public by mid of 2027, also Indonesia bullet train project ( 142km) was small then India's project ( 540km) so it's obvious it take more time
The UK is a developed country, and we in China want to help developing countries. Good luck to the UK and Japan.
On top of the higher price. It will see budget overrun and long delay!
China competes through price and efficiency. America-subservient countries compete through geopolitical coercion.
Why not choose India, or better yet, build it yourself, UK...?!
It take 10years 😃😃😃
should be longer
Never complete. Uk is facing recession. It will never going to end in the next 20 years.
Maybe 18 years lol
Japan is more reliable and dependable...
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Japan is going to regret taking up the British Rail Project.
Just look at the Indian Rail progress.
Started off earlier than the Bundung ( Indonesia ) HST and already completed by China Rail and the Indian progress is only 10%.
Good luck to both British and Japanese working on the project.🤫🤫😂😂
India delays due to land acquisition and not Japanese side.