Since I bought the Megadrive Mini back in September, my daughter enjoys playing Bare Knuckle 2 with me. We call it "Kicking the Homeless Out of Disneyland" because in the third stage you go through a theme park with a castle and beat up guys sleeping on the benches. So often we'll ask each other, "Do you wanna kick the homeless out of Disneyland?"
I had a SOR patch on the Java version on my old sony walkman phone, I never completed it but I remember it being fun, I probably still have the phone with it installed somewhere, it worked pretty well because it was before days of touch screen, there was like a circle control which had button clicks used for direction, and just as you said in the video double tap to punch, it felt quite fluid on an actual phone.
@@RetroCore - kind of makes sense - it was a 1x speed drive in those units. Neo-Geo CD ran into the same issues with loading - as later on with PS1 and Mortal Kombat 3 and the Shang Tsung morphs.
Battle of the Ports for Streets of Rage. Freaking nice, Mark. You really did it damn good for this BOTP. I see you that you enjoyed Streets of Rage 4 it seems. You are so awesome when it comes to this content. I enjoy seeing what you do next. Let's go, my friend
Wow, that Java port seems really great! They didn't just made SoR1 with SoR2 assets, but detouched the sprites, added frames and even made a SoR2 Adam long before SOR remake!
You can't go wrong with the original. Great video again, Mark. I first played the original Streets of Rage on a (Mega Tech? I remember the machine also having Columns and a couple others) arcade cabinet at a 7-11 (former; it's now a "Circle K") that was very close to an uncle's house. I didn't know anything about the Genesis-based arcade systems, so for a long time I assumed the home game was an arcade port. And this even though I had seen the game in magazines and was familiar with the Playchoice 10, which the local bowling alley had, but I never made the connection that the arcade machine was based on the Genesis until much later. Either way, I enjoyed Streets of Rage 1 and still do, even though I personally ended up getting SoR 2 first and prefer it over the original.
I love all 4 main games in the series, yet the original's soundtrack is still my favorite of them all. Lots of recognizable influences from popular songs back then.
I think they needed to redo the voices on the Mega CD version because all the voices on SOR 1 and 2 were done by Yuzo Koshiro himself. He basically changed the pitch of his voice samples match the desired male/female timbres.
I played all versions except the Java one. What an amazing surprise! I remember that Mega CD version doesn't have two players mode, like Master System. Game Gear is an amazing port it have a quite good collision detection too (Master System is horrible in this aspect), and Megadrive port is the only beat em up in 16 bit consoles that can show until 12 enemies in the screen, thanks to the small sprites size. Amazing BotP Mark! Loved it!
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Cool video, as always! I remember when i got my Megadrive early in the 90's that i saw a picture of Streets of Rage and i thought it was a dancing game :-P Of course i was wrong and when i got the game it was the most awesome experience ever! Fantastic music, great graphics and even better gameplay. Everyone is always going on about part 2, and yes that is one of the finest games i ever played, but i always liked part 1 as well. Part 3 not so much... By the way, why is the game called Bare knuckle in Japan but Streets of rage in the west?
Wow I had no idea that SoR was on Mega CD, no way that was available in North America. Also, I never noticed the 3fps framerate until you mentioned it now, that said it doesn't take away from game at all in my opinion.
This game was not part of my childhood so througly. But when i finally bought my Mega Drive, i got a cartridge with 180 games. And boy....I cleared this game so many times now, but with lots of struggle
I'm glad the Sega CD showed some restraint and kept the Genesis music. It's still my favorite soundtrack from the series (2 comes super close, but 1 has more of a laid back feeling to it). It's almost like the Genesis sound was made for the music in this game rather than the other way (a)round. Interesting that the master system version had a SoR2 track in it.
i can remember getting a megadrive with streets of rage golden axe and revenge of shinobi for xmas in the 90s, the soundtrack was worlds apart from most other games. this is just my opinion.
That slowdown is present in my SOR cartridge. I think it is not only the Mega CD version but the American cart version as well. I played it a few minutes ago and that slowdown is there, for example when you jump kick on the throwing knives clowns it is more noticeable.
havent checked my self, but if Sega CD is based on the USA cartridge version, then those slowdowns make sense when its present in the original USA version (its have same title). So they property have fixed that bug very late for the JP release. So the Sega CD seens to been pretty less a direct port with little effort (unlike Final Fight).
I admit, I have not played SoR4 yet because of my late anxiety stuff due to another massive update coming for one of my beloved games but one thing I will admit, I played the SoR games on emulator, was hardly good at this, only finished SoR2, but the ost in the first game, is definitely meorable and while not as fluid, it was the start, of a great saga. And I am happy to know this game was created in the very month of my birth. So this game also hold a important piece in my heart Before my sleep for the update I have been waiting a whole set of years, this will be a good way to sleep. Let's go!
SOR4 is a short, good smooth game to distract you. The music or the Ost matches the inention and feelings of the games of yester years. If you ever would give it a chance, you will not disappointed, the least you would feel is "time well spent". If you have a friend or significant other, ask them to join you, and share an experience something that SOR was famous for.
I remember this when my now deceased mate had this on his dads Japanese mega drive....we stopped playing the crappy woman's wrestling game by asmik and kaned this hard....
Pretty impressive for it's time in it's 16-Bit form, arcade level on-screen enemy counts on a home system. I think it was a bit too derivative to get my attention so I never played any of the BK/SOR games despite owning them many times over via various collections, I'd probably totally burned out on the 'urban' beat em' ups sub-genre so I was heavily into the fantasy alternative, Golden Axe instead.
Sure maybe it's less of a collectable but it's the original game on my model 1. Can't beat that. Edit. And by the looks of it, a better compilation than this CD compilation. None of that slowdown, original voices, and Golden Axe is actually 2 players hehe.
I've been trying to catch up with your videos and was just watching the fighting force one, so this is good timing, SOR is one of the few series that doesn't have one bad game in the series. The Mega CD port had so much more potential though, especially if we consider the port of Final Fight CD, SEGA really missed the boat there against their own rival lol, oh well SOR1 is still a great game, nice video.
It’s amazing what the master system could do visually, when you compare late titles like this, with early titles like Double Dragon and Black Belt. The port of Renegade looks pretty nice too.
Imagine if the game had come out earlier on Sega Arcade hardware instead- would we have seen a slew of crappy 8 bit PC ports? Makes you wonder at times! How would the music have been! Even if the gameplay was a bit eh- the Commodore version of Golden Axe had a neat rendition of the theme!
Actually, US Gold computer ports came out from their main console, the Mega Drive too. One such example is Space Harrier 2. Sonic 1 was also about to get Amiga, ST, ZX Spectrum, CPC, and C64 ports too, but SEGA just said no to US Gold by then sooooo.
It certainly would've been interested had SoR appeared in arcades, but I think a big point of the game was "you can't play this anywhere else except for the Mega Drive" as a killer app, since they were already pushing how good their arcade ports were and needed some exclusive hits. The SNES port of Final Fight was a total let down, so in hindsight it seemed to have been a good move.
Like the Java version, the Master System version also has a unique boss for the Factory stage, although in this case the boss is something that resembles the Monopoly Guy, with a rocket launcher on his back!
For the mobile the " Java " version looks not that bad they take this version and make an full-game give another version of S.O.R I play the " remake " version and wow amazing but I enjoy this video thank you :-)
Question! How can it scroll badly if it is at 30fps instead of 15/16?? Shouldn't it scroll better??! Just for curiosity!! As usual love your videos! That voice samples on the mega cd ver were really something odd.. and possibly did it slow down due to loading or memory access?? Maybe the cd ver used the cpu of the megacd instead of the megadrive one??
Did you used emulation in the Mega Drive/MegaCD ones? The high-hats sounds kinda off, which happens with all SOR games running on emulators. Just curious :)
@@RetroCore theirs 2 versions on it on the mega cd... One was re-written as an entire game... The other was on a "Sega classics" disc and so so much better than the normal version... It had cd quality music and voice the same mega drive voice samples.... The game was the same other than the music..... The version I'm on about also had columns on the disk.
there was an arcade version running on the mega play system board, but like every mega play based arcade game it is Identical to the genesis version, so you aren't missing out on anything. there was also a tiger handheld version, but it is a reskin of their double dragon handheld, and is extremely rare. nobody should have to pay thousands of dollars for a reskin of a game that's usually available on the cheep. unless you are a collector of these handhelds for whatever ungodly reason, I suggesting you don't even bother with that one.
i believe there was an arcade version of this game from megaplay.or megatech.systems multicart www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9470 www.musee-des-jeux-video.com/fr/sys/5-mame/1/m/8 the soundtrack was diffent and more deep bass test this on a mame emulator from an original xbox in coinops ...there also megatechs version of streets of rage 2 .and golden axe 2 .the soundtrack is more arcade deep. does not sound like a tipical megadrive for sure..
The oddity with the regional title of the Japanese Mega-CD version seems to apply not only to Bare Knuckle/Streets of Rage, but also to The Super Shinobi/The Secret of Shinobi. I guess Sega simply went lazy, must have confused a lot of Japanese gamers with that. Then again, you played the Streets of Rage variant of the Game Gear version instead of the Bare Knuckle one for some reason.
@@RetroCore Well, the game title works depending on the region of your Game Gear, no matter which cartridge from where you own. For example, if you have the European Streets of Rage cartridge (like in my case) and insert it into a Japanese Game Gear (I myself have both an European and a Japanese Game Gear), it will display Bare Knuckle. Same thing if you do otherwise. And it's the same with the second Game Gear game. It's also the same with the first Mega Drive game, while in the second Mega Drive game it depends because there's two variantes: the Japanese and European version on one hand, and the North American version on the other.
Yes, this is the Chinese version. Finding Japanese versions of old Java games worth bothering with is next to impossible. There are two House of the Dead java games from Sega. One like the arcade and uses motion controls and the other you mentioned. Both featured in my BOTP House of the Dead video.
Yup. It was part of a compilation that also featured Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Columns and Super Monaco GP. I beilieve it was bundled with the Mega CD, at least in some countries.
Since it isn't possible for me to record the 3DS game in 3D then all we are left with is the Mega Drive game. Besides the 3D aspect (Which is good) the game is just the Mega Drive rom.
why does blaze sound like that in the sega cd version? she's sound like if she's played by skate trying to do voice. how come they haven't used the voices from the genesis version that weren't even compressed in genesis quality?
It's odd how unoptimized a lot of Genesis to Sega CD ports were. It almost leaves you wondering why they even bothered, considering that anyone with a Sega CD would have already had a Genesis anyways. The Master System port is absolutely impressive for the system. Heck, if my eyes don't deceive me, the framerate seems a bit above the Genesis original. Too bad for the wonky collision detection though. Too bad the Game Gear port was so cut back compared to the Master System port. It's nice they took advantage of the expanded color palette and link cable for 2-player co-op, but there's no technical reason it had to be missing so many stages that the Master System had, at least not to my knowledge.
Many games ended up running worse on the Mega CD than the Mega Drive, despite the former having a faster 68000 CPU. I Think it has to do with the way the two boards had to work together, some weird bottle neck.
It was part of the 4-in-1 collection that they included with the Sega CD along with Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective or Sewer Shark. You can tell they went with shovelware instead of quality games....
@@RetroCore The Game Gear version is a tiny 2 meg (256kb) cartridge, so it could be. The Master System version on the other hand is a 4 meg (512kb) one. Fortunately, with Streets of Rage II, both the Master System and the Game Gear versions were done on 4 meg (512kb).
Mega CD was a waste of time, next to no-noteworthy improvements, hell they could have added red-book audio to it, made it on par with Sonic CD, but instead decided for the easy cop out
Wow, I thought I had done part two. Looks like I have not. Okay, that will be coming soon. Not this week but soon. And I'll have a little extra to add as a killer surprise. An unreleased port you could say.
Nearly 30 years later and the music is still amazing
Yesss!
Now it is 30.
Fun Fact: Ancient is owned by Yuzo Koshiro's sister!
In fact, Ancient is a 'Koshiro family' enterprise.
That is correct. Older sister too I believe.
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Dave K Really? That’s interesting!
I was gonna say... XD
In my opinion the best Side Scrolling Beat Em Up on any platform. A must own then and now for any Mega Drive owner.
I miss the times when Sega developed kick ass arcade style games.
We all miss that!
They still do, but only for japan tho
Thank God MAME exists.
Since I bought the Megadrive Mini back in September, my daughter enjoys playing Bare Knuckle 2 with me. We call it "Kicking the Homeless Out of Disneyland" because in the third stage you go through a theme park with a castle and beat up guys sleeping on the benches. So often we'll ask each other, "Do you wanna kick the homeless out of Disneyland?"
Interesting name to give the game. My son and I just call these games Bashi Bashi games 😜. Well, he does.
I had a SOR patch on the Java version on my old sony walkman phone, I never completed it but I remember it being fun, I probably still have the phone with it installed somewhere, it worked pretty well because it was before days of touch screen, there was like a circle control which had button clicks used for direction, and just as you said in the video double tap to punch, it felt quite fluid on an actual phone.
Megadrive. Built like a tank. Never a problem with it.
I guess the reason why the Sega CD version slows down is that it loads chunks of levels from the disk (before GO sign).
It shouldn't do. The Mega CD has enough memory to avoid that. Could be the reason though, I guess.
@@RetroCore - kind of makes sense - it was a 1x speed drive in those units. Neo-Geo CD ran into the same issues with loading - as later on with PS1 and Mortal Kombat 3 and the Shang Tsung morphs.
But Final Fight was a graphically more intense beat em up, and was handled better
I still think the genesis version is the best one
Keep up the great work! Cheers from USA!
Hey, thanks!
Hell yeah, it's time to dance ;)
Let's be friends?
Hell yeah!
@@danholo ad me up
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Battle of the Ports for Streets of Rage. Freaking nice, Mark. You really did it damn good for this BOTP. I see you that you enjoyed Streets of Rage 4 it seems. You are so awesome when it comes to this content. I enjoy seeing what you do next. Let's go, my friend
Wow, that Java port seems really great! They didn't just made SoR1 with SoR2 assets, but detouched the sprites, added frames and even made a SoR2 Adam long before SOR remake!
They put a lot of effort in for sure.
The go arrow on Game Gear looks like it says GOD
Now I won't unsee that lol.
Great video! & at just the right time too!
I wouldn't mind an Android version based upon the Java one.
amazing work my friend
I enjoy playing the different mods of this game like, the Street Fighter mod, Tekken mod, DC superheroes mod, playing on my RG350.
The J2ME port of SOR1 with SOR2-styled sprites reminds me of Sagaia on Game Boy: A port of Darius with some enemies from Darius II.
Yeah, it is a strange combination but one that works quite well.
Did not know about the mobile version. Looks like a decent effort was put into it
It's pretty good for the time. I just wish I could get the audio working.
You can't go wrong with the original. Great video again, Mark. I first played the original Streets of Rage on a (Mega Tech? I remember the machine also having Columns and a couple others) arcade cabinet at a 7-11 (former; it's now a "Circle K") that was very close to an uncle's house. I didn't know anything about the Genesis-based arcade systems, so for a long time I assumed the home game was an arcade port. And this even though I had seen the game in magazines and was familiar with the Playchoice 10, which the local bowling alley had, but I never made the connection that the arcade machine was based on the Genesis until much later. Either way, I enjoyed Streets of Rage 1 and still do, even though I personally ended up getting SoR 2 first and prefer it over the original.
That's kind of interesting that you first played this game on the Mega Tech system.
I love all 4 main games in the series, yet the original's soundtrack is still my favorite of them all. Lots of recognizable influences from popular songs back then.
1991: Streets of Rage - 2020: Streets of OHSHITSTAYINSIDE! lol. stay safe everyone!
Wait. The music playing during the beach level on master system showcase is from streets of rage 2 Industrial level.
Yep. They like to mix things around.
I think they needed to redo the voices on the Mega CD version because all the voices on SOR 1 and 2 were done by Yuzo Koshiro himself. He basically changed the pitch of his voice samples match the desired male/female timbres.
I played all versions except the Java one. What an amazing surprise! I remember that Mega CD version doesn't have two players mode, like Master System. Game Gear is an amazing port it have a quite good collision detection too (Master System is horrible in this aspect), and Megadrive port is the only beat em up in 16 bit consoles that can show until 12 enemies in the screen, thanks to the small sprites size.
Amazing BotP Mark! Loved it!
I think you are remembering the Mega CD version of Golden Axe. That is 1 player only. Bare Knuckle was 2 players.
I knew it was only a matter of time before we saw something from you relating to the older SOR games😆
Been a fan of the series since day one.
@@RetroCore Same here.😁
Nice video. There are also 3D versions on the 3DS of this and the sequel that are fantastic. Highly recommend to any 3DS owner.
I know this was on the Master System :).
Let's be friends?
Must say the mobile version has some really nice backgrounds. Almost like 32 bit system would have rendered them?
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Really surprised how good the Java port looks. It's basically a remake!
It does. It would have been cool if released on a console with real controls
Cool video, as always!
I remember when i got my Megadrive early in the 90's that i saw a picture of Streets of Rage and i thought it was a dancing game :-P
Of course i was wrong and when i got the game it was the most awesome experience ever! Fantastic music, great graphics and even better gameplay. Everyone is always going on about part 2, and yes that is one of the finest games i ever played, but i always liked part 1 as well. Part 3 not so much...
By the way, why is the game called Bare knuckle in Japan but Streets of rage in the west?
A dancing game? Must have been all that Neon.
@@RetroCore yeah i was stupid back then... On the picture Blaze was in a sort of "Walk like an Egyptian" style, so...
Wow I had no idea that SoR was on Mega CD, no way that was available in North America. Also, I never noticed the 3fps framerate until you mentioned it now, that said it doesn't take away from game at all in my opinion.
It's on the Sega classics collection.
You would of though the Mega CD version would of been 60fps, maybe slightly bigger sprites and more enemies on screen
Yep but sadly not. Just a basic port with new voices and added slowdown.
This game was not part of my childhood so througly. But when i finally bought my Mega Drive, i got a cartridge with 180 games. And boy....I cleared this game so many times now, but with lots of struggle
I'm glad the Sega CD showed some restraint and kept the Genesis music. It's still my favorite soundtrack from the series (2 comes super close, but 1 has more of a laid back feeling to it). It's almost like the Genesis sound was made for the music in this game rather than the other way (a)round.
Interesting that the master system version had a SoR2 track in it.
Fantastic music. just awesome ❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥❤
NOTHING will top SOR2 on the MD, that seperated us men from the Snes boys ;-D
Thanks for the review !
With this game is same stuff like we had with first Street Fighter. Not a bad game, but the second one is the classic one
Yeah I agree
i can remember getting a megadrive with streets of rage golden axe and revenge of shinobi for xmas in the 90s, the soundtrack was worlds apart from most other games. this is just my opinion.
Could have included the SOR1 route from SOR:Remake but that might be too removed from the original.
Nah, it's a remake. I thought about adding it but in the end decided not to.
@@RetroCore Have you ever done a video on the SOR REMAKE?!
That slowdown is present in my SOR cartridge. I think it is not only the Mega CD version but the American cart version as well. I played it a few minutes ago and that slowdown is there, for example when you jump kick on the throwing knives clowns it is more noticeable.
Wow, it's not in the Japanese version.
havent checked my self, but if Sega CD is based on the USA cartridge version, then those slowdowns make sense when its present in the original USA version (its have same title). So they property have fixed that bug very late for the JP release. So the Sega CD seens to been pretty less a direct port with little effort (unlike Final Fight).
I admit, I have not played SoR4 yet because of my late anxiety stuff due to another massive update coming for one of my beloved games but one thing I will admit, I played the SoR games on emulator, was hardly good at this, only finished SoR2, but the ost in the first game, is definitely meorable and while not as fluid, it was the start, of a great saga.
And I am happy to know this game was created in the very month of my birth. So this game also hold a important piece in my heart
Before my sleep for the update I have been waiting a whole set of years, this will be a good way to sleep. Let's go!
SOR4 is a short, good smooth game to distract you. The music or the Ost matches the inention and feelings of the games of yester years. If you ever would give it a chance, you will not disappointed, the least you would feel is "time well spent". If you have a friend or significant other, ask them to join you, and share an experience something that SOR was famous for.
I only played the emulated version on the Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage on the Xbox Live Arcade.
That will give you a pretty much perfect representation.
I remember this when my now deceased mate had this on his dads Japanese mega drive....we stopped playing the crappy woman's wrestling game by asmik and kaned this hard....
You mean Ring Side Angle? I have that too. Like you guys, I'd play that a lot until Streets of Rage game out.
@@RetroCore yes.
Pretty impressive for it's time in it's 16-Bit form, arcade level on-screen enemy counts on a home system. I think it was a bit too derivative to get my attention so I never played any of the BK/SOR games despite owning them many times over via various collections, I'd probably totally burned out on the 'urban' beat em' ups sub-genre so I was heavily into the fantasy alternative, Golden Axe instead.
Well, at least you were still playing a great game.
Hahaha. Timeless classic anyway you put it Mark. 8^)
Anthony..
I'm a proud owner of the Sega 6-pak cart. :) 6 games in one for cheaper than SOR alone.
Sure maybe it's less of a collectable but it's the original game on my model 1. Can't beat that.
Edit. And by the looks of it, a better compilation than this CD compilation. None of that slowdown, original voices, and Golden Axe is actually 2 players hehe.
I've been trying to catch up with your videos and was just watching the fighting force one, so this is good timing, SOR is one of the few series that doesn't have one bad game in the series. The Mega CD port had so much more potential though, especially if we consider the port of Final Fight CD, SEGA really missed the boat there against their own rival lol, oh well SOR1 is still a great game, nice video.
This is legendary☆ I❤SOR N' your battle of the ports N' the sega♡genesis is the best yesss.
Awesome
Good video. Not properly a port, but you could mention the streets of rage remake, because has sor1 pathway
It’s amazing what the master system could do visually, when you compare late titles like this, with early titles like Double Dragon and Black Belt. The port of Renegade looks pretty nice too.
Agree, this port looks spectacular, given the limits of the system. Just compare it to an NES game.
Imagine if the game had come out earlier on Sega Arcade hardware instead- would we have seen a slew of crappy 8 bit PC ports? Makes you wonder at times! How would the music have been! Even if the gameplay was a bit eh- the Commodore version of Golden Axe had a neat rendition of the theme!
Actually, US Gold computer ports came out from their main console, the Mega Drive too. One such example is Space Harrier 2. Sonic 1 was also about to get Amiga, ST, ZX Spectrum, CPC, and C64 ports too, but SEGA just said no to US Gold by then sooooo.
It certainly would've been interested had SoR appeared in arcades, but I think a big point of the game was "you can't play this anywhere else except for the Mega Drive" as a killer app, since they were already pushing how good their arcade ports were and needed some exclusive hits. The SNES port of Final Fight was a total let down, so in hindsight it seemed to have been a good move.
Sprites in Java Mobile version look more like they were from Bare Knuckle III / Streets of Rage 3🤔
Most probay are.
My fav version is the Sega cd port because when I got a Sega Cd for Christmas in 1992 it came bundled in the 4 in 1 cd.
Ditto....i had the 5 in 1
I wish they made the mega CD version with CD audio music instead of the normal sega mega drive sound
I always wished that too but instead we got a version with slowdown and slightly better voices.
Like the Java version, the Master System version also has a unique boss for the Factory stage, although in this case the boss is something that resembles the Monopoly Guy, with a rocket launcher on his back!
For the mobile the " Java " version looks not that bad they take this version and make an full-game give another version of S.O.R I play the " remake " version and wow amazing but I enjoy this video thank you :-)
Man, any way to get the Java version on a computer or an android phone? It looks awesome. Thanks for a great video Mark 😊 👍
Question! How can it scroll badly if it is at 30fps instead of 15/16?? Shouldn't it scroll better??!
Just for curiosity!! As usual love your videos! That voice samples on the mega cd ver were really something odd.. and possibly did it slow down due to loading or memory access?? Maybe the cd ver used the cpu of the megacd instead of the megadrive one??
Because even at 30fps it isn't as smooth as it should be. 60fps is needed to give a smooth look.
Did you used emulation in the Mega Drive/MegaCD ones? The high-hats sounds kinda off, which happens with all SOR games running on emulators. Just curious :)
No, real hardware. Keep in mind that different revisions of the Mega Drive have slightly different sound. I'm using 1st gen Japanese hardware.
the mega cd version was 1 player only as well
It wasn't. You are confusing it with Golden Axe.
@@RetroCore bloody hell yes!!!! i thought for years it was only one player.iv just put it on my sega only pi image,
Hold on Mark, I feel like dancing to the music in the game. 8^)
Anthony..
Amazing how a game made 30 years ago is still great. Will play the latest release, but, I'm not very optimistic about it.
You'll be surprised It's a very good game. If you must run in the game then choose the girl with the guitar.
Try playing Asteroids. Still as good as 41 years ago. It's not the graphics or sound that make or break a game. It's just about, if it is fun or not.
I always loved the Sega cd version
Is the soundtrack playable in CD players?
No, it's using the standard Mega Drive audio.
@@RetroCore theirs 2 versions on it on the mega cd... One was re-written as an entire game... The other was on a "Sega classics" disc and so so much better than the normal version... It had cd quality music and voice the same mega drive voice samples.... The game was the same other than the music..... The version I'm on about also had columns on the disk.
there was an arcade version running on the mega play system board, but like every mega play based arcade game it is Identical to the genesis version, so you aren't missing out on anything. there was also a tiger handheld version, but it is a reskin of their double dragon handheld, and is extremely rare. nobody should have to pay thousands of dollars for a reskin of a game that's usually available on the cheep. unless you are a collector of these handhelds for whatever ungodly reason, I suggesting you don't even bother with that one.
I believe the Game Gear was technically more powerful than the Mastersystem.
It has stereo sound and way more colours. In fact it even has way more colours than a Mega Drive.
Ah, so the Mega CD version does have slowdown that the Mega Drive version doesn't! I'd been debating with myself whether I was just imagining things.
Nope, you weren't imaging it. It really does.
i believe there was an arcade version of this game from megaplay.or megatech.systems multicart
www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9470
www.musee-des-jeux-video.com/fr/sys/5-mame/1/m/8
the soundtrack was diffent and more deep bass
test this on a mame emulator from an original xbox in coinops ...there also megatechs version of streets of rage 2 .and golden axe 2 .the soundtrack is more arcade deep.
does not sound like a tipical megadrive for sure..
I wish the police would drive in like that to remove thugs from my area.
Only 25% for the Game Gear version from French Magazine, Player One?
That's harsh
They gave the Master System version 80%
Very harsh. The GG version isn't that bad.
The oddity with the regional title of the Japanese Mega-CD version seems to apply not only to Bare Knuckle/Streets of Rage, but also to The Super Shinobi/The Secret of Shinobi. I guess Sega simply went lazy, must have confused a lot of Japanese gamers with that. Then again, you played the Streets of Rage variant of the Game Gear version instead of the Bare Knuckle one for some reason.
Ah, I don't have the Japanese Game Gear version. Whish I did. The box is cute.
@@RetroCore Well, the game title works depending on the region of your Game Gear, no matter which cartridge from where you own. For example, if you have the European Streets of Rage cartridge (like in my case) and insert it into a Japanese Game Gear (I myself have both an European and a Japanese Game Gear), it will display Bare Knuckle. Same thing if you do otherwise. And it's the same with the second Game Gear game. It's also the same with the first Mega Drive game, while in the second Mega Drive game it depends because there's two variantes: the Japanese and European version on one hand, and the North American version on the other.
Didn’t know there was a mega CD version...
It's on the Sega Classics collection.
The Java port showing here is in Chinese. Sega also released an odd 2D demake of House of the Dead on Java phones.
Yes, this is the Chinese version. Finding Japanese versions of old Java games worth bothering with is next to impossible.
There are two House of the Dead java games from Sega. One like the arcade and uses motion controls and the other you mentioned. Both featured in my BOTP House of the Dead video.
There was a CD version??
Yup. It was part of a compilation that also featured Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Columns and Super Monaco GP. I beilieve it was bundled with the Mega CD, at least in some countries.
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Are we just not gonna talk about the 3DS port made by M2?
Since it isn't possible for me to record the 3DS game in 3D then all we are left with is the Mega Drive game. Besides the 3D aspect (Which is good) the game is just the Mega Drive rom.
why does blaze sound like that in the sega cd version? she's sound like if she's played by skate trying to do voice. how come they haven't used the voices from the genesis version that weren't even compressed in genesis quality?
No idea. Such a strange version of the game.
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It's odd how unoptimized a lot of Genesis to Sega CD ports were. It almost leaves you wondering why they even bothered, considering that anyone with a Sega CD would have already had a Genesis anyways.
The Master System port is absolutely impressive for the system. Heck, if my eyes don't deceive me, the framerate seems a bit above the Genesis original. Too bad for the wonky collision detection though.
Too bad the Game Gear port was so cut back compared to the Master System port. It's nice they took advantage of the expanded color palette and link cable for 2-player co-op, but there's no technical reason it had to be missing so many stages that the Master System had, at least not to my knowledge.
Many games ended up running worse on the Mega CD than the Mega Drive, despite the former having a faster 68000 CPU. I Think it has to do with the way the two boards had to work together, some weird bottle neck.
Maybe they wanted to sell the Game Gear version on a smaller cartridge size?
It was part of the 4-in-1 collection that they included with the Sega CD along with Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective or Sewer Shark. You can tell they went with shovelware instead of quality games....
@@RetroCore The Game Gear version is a tiny 2 meg (256kb) cartridge, so it could be. The Master System version on the other hand is a 4 meg (512kb) one. Fortunately, with Streets of Rage II, both the Master System and the Game Gear versions were done on 4 meg (512kb).
Currently I love the 3DS version. Isn’t that one a port?
Can't film a 3DS in 3D so it just ends up looking identical to the Mega Drive game. That's why I didnt cover it.
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Mega CD was a waste of time, next to no-noteworthy improvements, hell they could have added red-book audio to it, made it on par with Sonic CD, but instead decided for the easy cop out
I wonder when you'll tackle this game's sequel and its laughable Master System port.
Wow, I thought I had done part two. Looks like I have not.
Okay, that will be coming soon. Not this week but soon. And I'll have a little extra to add as a killer surprise. An unreleased port you could say.