What an enjoyable and thought provoking interview between the interviewee Sir Anthony Beevor and the gentleman performing the interview. I felt the questions were well thought out and that he had done his homework.
I have read all his books and they illuminate the mistakes of the past so we can learn for the future. His style is so readable considering his treatment of some pretty horrific parts of history. He lays blame fearlessly where required, regardless of your allegiance. Facts cannot be distorted when they are researched meticulously. One of the great historians of his time.
Yes, he's a good historian, but it's entirely plausible to call out aspects pf British history in the same way - only it's very rarely done by native British authors. Tareq Ali has been doing it for half a century, most recently in a thought-provoking biography of Churchill where he discusses the shortcomings and occasional gaslighting of this great Briton, but that's not seen as "good cricket" under the normal narrative. Also, saying that "facts cannot be distorted" is kinda moot when some of the critical facts are simply not easily available, or have been covered up. Which is the case more often than you might like to think.
Wonderful interview. My take on movies about historical events is, yes, you should not use a movie as a history lesson, but it can be a gateway drug into reading about what really happened. As a teen, late at night, i saw the movie Mister Roberts, still one if my favorites. That inspired me to go down into the basement and start to read my father's books about the Pacific war. Now I have a tendency to bore people when I talk about these subjects. Or maybe I'm just boring, oh well.
It is the people who are clueless about the world we live in who are boring. And you know what?Most of them WANT to be clueless. The want to know NOTHING other than what they are being told.
@@colincampbell4261 The west´s "democracy" looks functional because the dice are loaded in our favour: USA hegemony; NATO belligerence; a strangle hold on oil and banking. It all looks a bit fragile these days. USA democracy is dysfunctional- there is no social mobility- if you´re poor, you´ll die poor.
No, it does not. There is no such thing as a authentic democracy. Democracies are self perfecting entities but flawed nonetheless. However, any ultra woke democracy with 123 genders and 7000 races is still miles and miles and miles better than Dictatorships such as Putinistan or Xinesia. Name one dictatorship that works better than our flawed western nations. I am eager to learn.
Antony, I adore your writings; however, you ignore the fact that "Democracies" can behave as brutally if not more brutal than any Hitler/Stalin/Mao regime.
He's right about not being able to practice normal diplomacy. Treaties are not respected, which is disasterous, because it makes negotiation pointless.
A war historian knighted by the establishment tells me all I need to know about this bloke 🤭 If you want to know about the soviet union then read Grover Furr.
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’ Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
Democracy is not perfect, because you can never fully balance power in society, but it is the best way we have to stop concentration of power in a few hands, and the best defense against tyranny.
I would like to read a book about the real experiences of the Russian people after the collapse of the Soviet Union. On a different note, I strongly disagree with the author that it's unlikely there will be another "great man" in the West. The danger is visible for those who can see it. This issue is discussed around 11:00
A bizarre take Putin taking about one Russia - is that strange as a president of one country? Doesn't all presidents talk to the citizens as being one people? Is the US any different?
Please gentlemen: your use of the word “Myth”, & democracy: words that are meaningless in today’s world! I would have used the word cultural differences! The interviewer mentioned Stevan Fry, wow, who can take that individual seriously…………makes the interview comical 😂. ones again, we have diverse cultures & very different beliefs!
Putin's three year old brother died of hunger in Stalingrad. Why is this fact not mentioned more? Would give good insight into his loathing of Western invaders. I also think all this emphasis on styles of Governments is somewhat abstract. The streets of Moscow and Beijing are safer than London and New York. Is that not a bottom line for people. Look at the choice facing the US now? I would rather have a good leader than a choice between Trump and Biden.
You mean just overlook that Russia is a kleptocracy because the streets are peaceful? Overlook that Putin has dragged Russia into an unnecessary & catastrophic war because there's less street crime? How about the war dead? Imagine for one minute Russia without the Ukraine war, without the sanctions, without the political murders. And then ponder whether Putin is really a great leader.
It was Leningrad, and he had a close strategic partnership with Germany for many years. I doubt Putin loathes invaders, because he, like Stalin and the Tsars, rather enjoys invading other countries, and he admires them for doing it.
Beevor knows his demographic very well. If you want to make money in the bookselling field, it's America America America and it's a very fickle market so you never criticise your market in any meaningful way. You pander the Americans and become rich. The other fellow you like. well like all Eastern Europeans he carries baggage a lot of baggage as to percieved crimes agaist his grand parents. Both these authors are biased but for different reasons. Beevor for money...Kotkin for hate and revenge...i think !
It's an interesting but quite disingenuous interview with Sir Anthony Beever, I think. I see that Western self-consciousness is very flattered by the idea of its own superiority and, accordingly, the idea of the confrontation between Western democracies and all kinds of autocracies. But, in fact, this is a very superficial view of things. Using this dichotomy, it is easy to manipulate Western society, including on the issue of war and peace. This is what we are seeing now in connection with the confrontation with Russia.
It is painful to listen somebody who is so knowledgeable but willfully ignorant. Mt Beevor doesn't understand and is disconnected from the present reality
@@cyberhermit1222 Bollocks. He's been thoroughly discredited for telling lies. A judge branded him an anti-semite, a racist and a bigot, which he is. Remember that he lost his own court case against Deborah Lipstadt - idiot.
In a nutshell, yes. Democracy is the best choice under a number of bad chances. It is a small jackpot but still the jackpot. Not a palace but a modest home.
@@rg-cc5kg When I hear a gentleman declare that Great Britain is a democracy, I always want to ask him how many times have the British people elected their head of state? The latest leapfrog with British prime ministers clearly showed how little part British voters had in this. It's strange that British politicians continue to teach democracy to the rest of the world.
Beevor's work is pulp "history" with HEAVY antirussian and ,since you say you are a marxist,anticommunist bias. Stalingrad was below subpar,Berlin was complete trash. The guy is a joke,he was writing spy novels before relabeling himself as a WW2 guru...
It always strikes me how much ideological agenda permeates actually British political and historical talk! All those ceaseless references to "democracy vs totalitarism" have as much in common with reality as communist "conflict of classes"! This is particularly ironic, having in mind how the British dealt not only with other nations like the "pesky" Irish but also their own indigenous population throughout history -- were they really any "milder and gentler" than Russians? Antony Beevor is considered by serious Russian historians to be a populist writer not because he has something against Russia but precisely because his ideological standpoint consistently prevails over history in his works. Just watching this interview, one can see how tendentious and unhistorical are the views of this guy which can produce only awful results in the study of history. After all, it is supremely ironic that a person from the Kingdom talks with a person from the country with as a sketchy history of "democracy" as Russia ruled by another "dictator," Erdogan, about how bad Putin is and how undemocratic Russia is. Mind you, to an interviewer from another country, Anthony would mention how bad Turkey is with the same typical English swagger and nonchalance.
Clearly you engage in whataboutery to avoid discussion of RuZZia’s current genocidal war in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and its hegemonic ambitions from Pacific, to Atlantic to the Arctic. Shame
@@BrianOh-uc3gm I can answer that- as a history scholar, I read all of his books, and find them firmly embedded in fiction and propaganda, rather than fact. Whatever little factual presence there is in his books gets twisted to fit the narrative that Beavor trying to peddle in his populist writing.
Beevor,Applebaum etc were on a mission when they were publishing tneir works. I suspected this back then,it has been confirmed after 2014. There is nothing else to be told.
The question by garda saying hitler said “kill all the Jews and Muslims” is incorrect. Hurler was pro-Muslim. I don’t need to elaborate. Examples abound
I appreciate the effort, can’t help but feel that Imran Garda blags his way through every interview… very odd. What a wasted opportunity to challenge and pick the brains of one of the most well known military historians in the world.
Anthony Beevor is not a good historian at all. People with more reasonable and accurate views on reality have published great work. Recommend Glantz work on eastern front.
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when "one" can only use the word "one's" rather than my.... and thinks all historians are males... he looks like a dinosaur to me. Sort of appropriate for a historian, really.
@@ballieballoe 'British literature' is very broad brush to wield. You mean history books? What? There was plenty of questioning of Empire when I grew up through the 1960s and 70s. It was after the 80s that Niall Ferguson and has ilk emerged. The controversy of the colonial Empires goes on and on.
Great interview and great interviewer 🙏
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What an enjoyable and thought provoking interview between the interviewee Sir Anthony Beevor and the gentleman performing the interview. I felt the questions were well thought out and that he had done his homework.
I have read all his books and they illuminate the mistakes of the past so we can learn for the future. His style is so readable considering his treatment of some pretty horrific parts of history. He lays blame fearlessly where required, regardless of your allegiance. Facts cannot be distorted when they are researched meticulously. One of the great historians of his time.
Yes, he's a good historian, but it's entirely plausible to call out aspects pf British history in the same way - only it's very rarely done by native British authors. Tareq Ali has been doing it for half a century, most recently in a thought-provoking biography of Churchill where he discusses the shortcomings and occasional gaslighting of this great Briton, but that's not seen as "good cricket" under the normal narrative.
Also, saying that "facts cannot be distorted" is kinda moot when some of the critical facts are simply not easily available, or have been covered up. Which is the case more often than you might like to think.
@@louise_rose hear, hear
@@louise_rosewe face up to our crimes far more than Russians, who cannot reflect.
GREAT INTERVIEWEE AND GREAT INTERVIEWER. ONE OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS I HAVE EVER SEEN. ONE OF THE VERY FEW ON TRP.
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This is a very good interview with very good questions.
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Wonderful interview. My take on movies about historical events is, yes, you should not use a movie as a history lesson, but it can be a gateway drug into reading about what really happened. As a teen, late at night, i saw the movie Mister Roberts, still one if my favorites. That inspired me to go down into the basement and start to read my father's books about the Pacific war. Now I have a tendency to bore people when I talk about these subjects. Or maybe I'm just boring, oh well.
When you are not swimming in kool aid you are automatically boring. Wear it as a medal.
It is the people who are clueless about the world we live in who are boring. And you know what?Most of them WANT to be clueless. The want to know NOTHING other than what they are being told.
" Peoples history of US " by Howard Zinn
Did you ever read this book?
Just curiosity pressed me to ask this
Question ❓
Lincoln was also a racist, but he freed the slaves. So, as we study history, these are the contradictions that we encounter.
Please recheck it.
Did Howard Zinn slightly oppose your view?
Lincoln was under tremendous pressure no to
he had African DNA.
"Why cant Russia become a proper democracy?" The question seems to suppose the West somehow functions as an authentic democracy-
Of course it is not perfect - but alternatives seem much worse.
@@colincampbell4261 The west´s "democracy" looks functional because the dice are loaded in our favour: USA hegemony; NATO belligerence; a strangle hold on oil and banking. It all looks a bit fragile these days. USA democracy is dysfunctional- there is no social mobility- if you´re poor, you´ll die poor.
No, it does not. There is no such thing as a authentic democracy. Democracies are self perfecting entities but flawed nonetheless. However, any ultra woke democracy with 123 genders and 7000 races is still miles and miles and miles better than Dictatorships such as Putinistan or Xinesia. Name one dictatorship that works better than our flawed western nations. I am eager to learn.
Democracy isn’t perfect, but Ruzzian kleptocracy is hell.
It doesn't seems. It does.
Absolutely fascinating. Must read some of his books now!
It’s amazing to me to learn how shallow minded, yet dedicated to depiction of opinion this man actually is.
Antony, I adore your writings; however, you ignore the fact that "Democracies" can behave as brutally if not more brutal than any Hitler/Stalin/Mao regime.
Excellent interviewer.
Goodness! Nice to see how Beevor thinks about east and west. A bit disheartening, but it is what it is.
He's right about not being able to practice normal diplomacy. Treaties are not respected, which is disasterous, because it makes negotiation pointless.
A war historian knighted by the establishment tells me all I need to know about this bloke 🤭 If you want to know about the soviet union then read Grover Furr.
What country is a perfect democracy?
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
@@artmcteagle I know that. There are many supposedly democratic countries. Which one of them can be used as a model?
Democracy is not perfect, because you can never fully balance power in society, but it is the best way we have to stop concentration of power in a few hands, and the best defense against tyranny.
I've noticed that people who declined a knighthood constitute a *far* more interesting group than the narcissists who relish honors.
Nah. It would be healthy if we brought back all the customs from 100 or more years ago.
You’ve noticed? OK list your top 100 people who have declined a knighthood.
Noticed have you - Okay - I would have preferred hanging out with Bowie and Jagger than your judgement on who's the interesting knighthood decliners
They should have knighted Eddie Money. He could have been Count de Money !!! 😊
I would like to read a book about the real experiences of the Russian people after the collapse of the Soviet Union. On a different note, I strongly disagree with the author that it's unlikely there will be another "great man" in the West. The danger is visible for those who can see it. This issue is discussed around 11:00
Try "The invention of Russia" by Arkady Ostrovsky. Not so much about experiences, but a well done popular history of Russia after 1989
The fact that he’s been knighted tells you right away that he’s a court historian.
court historian tell one side of the story, isn't it ? (or even worse : lies) I dont look up to that, i look up to the truth !
A bizarre take Putin taking about one Russia - is that strange as a president of one country? Doesn't all presidents talk to the citizens as being one people?
Is the US any different?
Yes. USA hasn't tried to invade Canada since the War of 1812.
Not bizzare at all if you consider the calls about dismemberment of RF.
correct...otherwise they will get trown out of office for not properly following the protocols of their constitution
A fascinating interview with some unexpected curveball questions.
23:41 The inability to self reflect is quite astonishing.
brits be brits...
You weren't listening. Can you?
@@stephenhill545 assumptions are for the ignorant. we can talk facts
Great Sir author, greetings from Poland with respect
Please gentlemen: your use of the word “Myth”, & democracy: words that are meaningless in today’s world! I would have used the word cultural differences! The interviewer mentioned Stevan Fry, wow, who can take that individual seriously…………makes the interview comical 😂. ones again, we have diverse cultures & very different beliefs!
It's quite amazing that spending all your life in Russia research and not having even a slightest clue about said Russia.
Putin's three year old brother died of hunger in Stalingrad. Why is this fact not mentioned more? Would give good insight into his loathing of Western invaders. I also think all this emphasis on styles of Governments is somewhat abstract. The streets of Moscow and Beijing are safer than London and New York. Is that not a bottom line for people. Look at the choice facing the US now? I would rather have a good leader than a choice between Trump and Biden.
You mean just overlook that Russia is a kleptocracy because the streets are peaceful? Overlook that Putin has dragged Russia into an unnecessary & catastrophic war because there's less street crime? How about the war dead? Imagine for one minute Russia without the Ukraine war, without the sanctions, without the political murders. And then ponder whether Putin is really a great leader.
Leningrad, not Stalingrad, but your point stands.
It was Leningrad, and he had a close strategic partnership with Germany for many years. I doubt Putin loathes invaders, because he, like Stalin and the Tsars, rather enjoys invading other countries, and he admires them for doing it.
The streets of Moscow…? Where Ukrainian drones appear and terror attacks occur? Are you sure about that?
Overrated author, average interview
Fake account.
@@anthonyhulse1248 shame
Ignorance- do not forget ignorance. Fear is basic...but fear flourishes when combined with ignorance...those in power manipulate these 2.
"The second cold war"... I like the expression! But it could be the same old first one, with a little "entracte", or detente
Sir Antony Beevor is one of my favourite historians, together with Stephen Kotkin.
Beevor knows his demographic very well. If you want to make money in the bookselling field, it's America America America and it's a very fickle market so you never criticise your market in any meaningful way. You pander the Americans and become rich. The other fellow you like. well like all Eastern Europeans he carries baggage a lot of baggage as to percieved crimes agaist his grand parents.
Both these authors are biased but for different reasons. Beevor for money...Kotkin for hate and revenge...i think !
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@@hylkewesterhuis9667if you have nothing to say then stfu
It's an interesting but quite disingenuous interview with Sir Anthony Beever, I think. I see that Western self-consciousness is very flattered by the idea of its own superiority and, accordingly, the idea of the confrontation between Western democracies and all kinds of autocracies. But, in fact, this is a very superficial view of things. Using this dichotomy, it is easy to manipulate Western society, including on the issue of war and peace. This is what we are seeing now in connection with the confrontation with Russia.
the soothing sounds of aggrandising self flatulation..no one better then british intellectuals
22:07, Beevor gives his thoughts about the future.
Speaking of maudlin movies,I wonder what he thinks of Vilsmaier's "Stalingrad" ?
Is the smoke alarm chirping?
It is painful to listen somebody who is so knowledgeable but willfully ignorant. Mt Beevor doesn't understand and is disconnected from the present reality
You confuse putin’s ambitions with reality.
‘Globalisation’ is not an event - it is a cynical programme. 6:44
David irving?where is he?
@@cyberhermit1222 Bollocks. He's been thoroughly discredited for telling lies. A judge branded him an anti-semite, a racist and a bigot, which he is. Remember that he lost his own court case against Deborah Lipstadt - idiot.
@@cyberhermit1222in a very special chamber.
he stood on the toes of the toes and untouchables, never to be forgiven.
Beevor needs to have a much tougher interview than this. The interviewer was poor.
Fire alarm bateries are dying
Why Russia should become a demo For? Did democracy is ultimate ideas for the world?
In a nutshell, yes. Democracy is the best choice under a number of bad chances. It is a small jackpot but still the jackpot. Not a palace but a modest home.
@@rg-cc5kg When I hear a gentleman declare that Great Britain is a democracy, I always want to ask him how many times have the British people elected their head of state? The latest leapfrog with British prime ministers clearly showed how little part British voters had in this. It's strange that British politicians continue to teach democracy to the rest of the world.
I love all of his books,he tells the true facts of the times.
This is the big liar in the world
Serious Russian historians, have those words ever been used before.
Is the worst liar in the world
“The west hopes all people’s will see the merits of parliamentary democracy “ … 😂😂😂
Because it’s 110% better than the alternative.
On the other hand: may you have the joy of living in a putinesque kleptocracy in your own country. 🙏
Braveheart, very entertaining but not based on fact.
Could you recommend a biography of Putin?
Is that noise in the background a smoke detector? So annoying
Doing fine untill you mentioned BowTieMan. He doesn't rate near someone like this ..........
( Fell off cliff )
Court historian.
Speaking as both a historian and as a Marxist, I can say that Beevor's books still hold up pretty well. Kudos to him on his whole body of work!
You can’t be a Marxist and a historian. The two are not compatible.
Beevor's work is pulp "history" with HEAVY antirussian and ,since you say you are a marxist,anticommunist bias. Stalingrad was below subpar,Berlin was complete trash. The guy is a joke,he was writing spy novels before relabeling himself as a WW2 guru...
if you say so 🤡
@@anthonyhulse1248 pathetic argumentation funny man
It always strikes me how much ideological agenda permeates actually British political and historical talk! All those ceaseless references to "democracy vs totalitarism" have as much in common with reality as communist "conflict of classes"! This is particularly ironic, having in mind how the British dealt not only with other nations like the "pesky" Irish but also their own indigenous population throughout history -- were they really any "milder and gentler" than Russians? Antony Beevor is considered by serious Russian historians to be a populist writer not because he has something against Russia but precisely because his ideological standpoint consistently prevails over history in his works. Just watching this interview, one can see how tendentious and unhistorical are the views of this guy which can produce only awful results in the study of history. After all, it is supremely ironic that a person from the Kingdom talks with a person from the country with as a sketchy history of "democracy" as Russia ruled by another "dictator," Erdogan, about how bad Putin is and how undemocratic Russia is. Mind you, to an interviewer from another country, Anthony would mention how bad Turkey is with the same typical English swagger and nonchalance.
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In what way are Beevor's views "unhistorical". How do you know what his views are?
Clearly he's annoying all the right people. 😆
Clearly you engage in whataboutery to avoid discussion of RuZZia’s current genocidal war in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and its hegemonic ambitions from Pacific, to Atlantic to the Arctic.
Shame
@@BrianOh-uc3gm I can answer that- as a history scholar, I read all of his books, and find them firmly embedded in fiction and propaganda, rather than fact. Whatever little factual presence there is in his books gets twisted to fit the narrative that Beavor trying to peddle in his populist writing.
NATO get out of Ukraine
If ever NATO goes to Ukraine, you'll know.
Beevor,Applebaum etc were on a mission when they were publishing tneir works. I suspected this back then,it has been confirmed after 2014. There is nothing else to be told.
The question by garda saying hitler said “kill all the Jews and Muslims” is incorrect. Hurler was pro-Muslim. I don’t need to elaborate. Examples abound
I appreciate the effort, can’t help but feel that Imran Garda blags his way through every interview… very odd. What a wasted opportunity to challenge and pick the brains of one of the most well known military historians in the world.
Sorry, too much fawning, too much name-dropping.
It's British. 😂
@@redtobertshateshandles This is a Turkish channel. Go figure.
Good interviewer but I'm not impressed with Beevor's opinion. Think his knighthood clouds his judgement and opinion.
Anthony Beevor is not a good historian at all. People with more reasonable and accurate views on reality have published great work. Recommend Glantz work on eastern front.
Wow, Russian bots out in force in the comments.
Define ' bots'?
@@felipe-viborshills for putin, apologists for ruzzian war crimes.
@@felipe-vibor Google it.
Beevor was the ultimate WasteBot,before it was cool.
thanks for the compliment,i feel warm and fuzzy
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when "one" can only use the word "one's" rather than my.... and thinks all historians are males... he looks like a dinosaur to me. Sort of appropriate for a historian, really.
Beevor is to history what Kentucky Fried Chicken is to Chicken…. entry level history… or British Propaganda..
british literature is a form of softpower to suport the narative of the empire
A Putin apologist and a wokist 😅
Putin fanboy?
@@ballieballoe 'British literature' is very broad brush to wield. You mean history books? What? There was plenty of questioning of Empire when I grew up through the 1960s and 70s. It was after the 80s that Niall Ferguson and has ilk emerged. The controversy of the colonial Empires goes on and on.
It's not even about propaganda. He's just stupid.