Clueless on the incredible sound high end amps and speakers actually create! Those Bowers and Wilkins 801's are $50K each! Let me guess you spent $100 on speakers and they sound great too? LMFAO
I've to say you maybe are one of the very few who has made a statement that is so true, the system sounds good and is great if you like it and no two tastes are alike. I have purchased systems beginning in 1974 and I have to say what you've said is so true and if someone tries to tell you differently don't let them. Audio equipment should be what you like and nothing else no matter what anyone else says!
Well done sir! I’m a professional audio engineer, have published music for over 23 years and I master and work with musicians to shine on these types of systems. I’ve be running B&W Nautilus for over 20 years. My 805s are still in my A/B mastering chain. You did it right my friend. I’d love to see a nice turntable in your setup.
@@stereothrilla8374 I Heard B&W 805's at a lengthy session and was VERY impressed. I have only Seen one Nautilus Speaker System at a great used Audio Store; unfortunately the Owner didn't have 4 Spare Amplifiers, LOL.
My goodness this does look incredible. This is the epitome of what hard work can build. Few of us will never even experience the sound, let alone have this for our own. Congratulations Pan.
You can get a decent sound on a cheaper setup. If you can afford this setup go for it. Otherwise there are really good stereoamps, cd players and speakers for less money that will give you a really good sound quality. My setup is as follows: ML classic ESL 9 electrostatic speakers, accuphase dp 450 cd player and BMC C1 integrated stereoamp
I second the guy below me, just find an electronic music event with a Funktion-One, Void, or L-Acoustics sound system to experience ultimate sonic bliss.
Wow, so impressive. When you get into something you don’t mess around, do you? This is very apparent with the detailing tools and products you use, to your garage setup, to your choice of car, and now your choice of stereo. Kudos to you. What you hear on your stereo is probably what one hears sitting in the recording studio with the band and musicians sorting across from them. Really cool! More power to you and wishing you continuing success so you could enjoy the best things money can buy. 👍
@@PanTheOrganizer Yes Pan I do! My system consists of the following: I switch between the SONY DA5500ES Receiver & my Pioneer vintage 1050 Receiver, Vandersteen 2Ce Signature III Speakers, the Thorens TD 295 MKIII Turntable, the Sony - UBP-X800M2 Blu-Ray/SACD Player and the Pioneer Elite PDR-W739 CD-R Recorder all connected with Monster cables.
@@PanTheOrganizer Right now Pan, I'm listening to various live shows of Genesis from 1977 - 1981, Hammock, Ulver, Hidden Empire, Buckethead and Jean-Luc Ponty.
Cool setup. Let me get this straight...so the electrical and acoustic engineers who designed and built the equipment, costing tens of thousands of dollars, deliberately supplied the equipment with power cables that screw up the equipment's performance? Can you please explain what "junk" is removed from an AC mains line? The power cables supplied with the equipment pass rigorous testing to ensure safety, did your aftermarket cables get the same rating?
Do your research. Any stock power cable supplied with components is cheap garbage. The components are well engineered. The issue isn’t there. It’s in the poor overseas sourced 5$ cables that they supply.
I couldn’t think of a nicer guy to have all of this beautiful audio equipment. Congratulations Pan, enjoy mate, I know you’ve worked so hard for it. 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing Pan. I walked into an audio store with some high end equipment and got to listen to one of my favorite artist play a bass and I could hear finger slides on the strings that I never heard before. True audiophiles appreciate what you shared.
I agree. Some people think high quality audio gear is a waste of money. I think that is complete nonsense. Usually it's those who can't afford systems that say that, because if they actually are honest and get to listen to their favourite recordings on a proper system, it's impossible not to get moved by the music and hear things you wouldn't on a normal setup or your phone. I usually tell people to "be and let be". Be happy for others and if owning a system isn't for you, then that's ok too. :) I have been a music lover for decades, and getting to enjoy my favourite music on a quality setup is really soothing to me.
@@PanTheOrganizer Pan, checkout the song Pearls by Sade. I can’t imagine how awesome it would sound on your system. The strings at the beginning are soul stirring and the purity of her voice is amazing. Enjoy!
Wow. I have always dreamed of having McIntosh equipment. I used to work at an electronics store where i got my Rotel and Paradigm system. Nothing even close to that though. I bet your system sounds absolutely amazing in person. Amazing!
Congratulations on putting together this sublime audio system. You did a huge service mentioning that people should go with what sounds best to them. I was lucky enough to do A/B testing with power cables about a month after I'd lived with my system and the differences from the factory-supplied cable were jaw-dropping. Highly recommended upgrade.
@@XXPYR0XX I'm sure he can. That DAC had 11 inputs, he said. And the Digital Streamer also is hooked up over ethernet, so probably the computer audio can be played over the network.
That's so cool to be able to switch from tubes to solid state. I think I'd prefer the tubes to be a bit more highlighted like a regular tube amp. McIntosh is the top of the line. Can't go wrong there.
Thank you kindly! I appreciate it Ted. I have a passion for music, so the system is a vehicle for me to be able to indulge in my passion. Do you have a HiFi setup yourself? What gear do you own?
Wow I had no idea you were into audio. I’ve been watching your car reviews since last year but have been into audio since forever. You would definitely qualify as an audiophile. Glad to know we share similar interests! :)
Hehe thanks! Yeah I have shared many of my passions on my channel in past videos through the seven years since I started on TH-cam. I have a passion for music, HiFi setups, movies, home theaters, computers, sneaker collections, luxury watch collections, and cars. All the guy "sicknesses" as I call them haha. This is probably my 7th or 8th HiFi setup at this point in my life. Every time I promise myself this is my "end game" setup, it never is. There's always something new, or when you save up more for your budget, you can access an entirely new bracket of components. I love listening to music, so having a high fidelity setup allowing me to indulge in that passion is so much fun. What HiFi setup do yo own?
@@PanTheOrganizer I used to own a pair of Devialet Phantom Reactor 900’s for my music, but then swapped them our for a pair of Gold Phantoms. You could argue that they don’t deliver the performance for price, and I myself would not consider them to be audiophile grade, but man I have never since heard such low end performance from such small cabinets. I then swapped them out for a pair of LS60 wireless floorstanding last year and have had these since. I usually stick to all in one active units as I don’t have the luxury to experiment with external amps or dacs, however I have many a headphones and use balanced Drop+Grace dac with balanced thx AAA 789 amp to power them. Music is certainly a passion and people become very confused as to how we can “waste” money on audio equipment. But you can’t put a price on passions, because it’s what we live for. Keep it up Pan. You inspire us all!
Yeah I know Devialet products quite well, I myself have a limited edition sage green version of the new Phantom II, and for its size (it's in my living room), people are always blown away by the power and sound quality that comes out of there, and super low distortion even at crazy loud volumes. It's a great party trick haha. I also had some LS50 wireless speakers (which I reviewed in this video: th-cam.com/video/sjdP8XYiDSY/w-d-xo.html) and those two were great. UniQ technology baby! And I fully agree with you, nobody should argue when it comes to passions. Let people enjoy what they worked hard to achieve and purchase. I think usually, those who say it's a waste of money simply don't have the money to afford high quality setups, so they have to belittle others to make themselves feel better about not owning a great setup. I can assure you that if they won the lottery or had a higher paying job, they would jump on the chance to own a great sound system!! ;)
You've chosen very wisely sir. Im a big fan of B&W speakers and almost have a museum of different models! Keep those midrange drivers dry and be ultra careful of the fragile diamond tweeters. Any plans to get a turntable? SME model 60 ❤
Your thought process of course is second to none, this system is insane and I hope you enjoy! Just from the demo at the end, I like this system a lot. The sound is crisp, I like listening to each component of the beat and this makes it easy. I can't imagine it in person! You've outdone yourself sir!
Thanks!! And that sound clip was just a copyright free song (to make sure I don't get a copyright strike) so it's not even something well recorded or "audiophile grade" by any means. Putting a proper SACD or HiRes stream from a master audio file on there is simply audio bliss!
I listened to the demo on a very nice stereo and it didn't sound good. It totally loses it in the translation. But you have an ultimate dream set up that I would love to listen to and aspire to. I bet it sounds epic in the room. Well done!
Merci PAN. Loved the video and the passion that you have about the system and relaying that to us. I have watched a few of your videos and while watching this one, I went and subscribed, hopefully now you can go and buy those Sigma cables. It must be surreal to actually hear those BW speakers in person. I live in Montreal if you ever have an open house :)
Thanks! Since the video I did upgrade the Alpha series speaker and power cables, which are already high end cables, to their even higher end Sigma series. I also added the new flagship Kaleidescape Strato C 4K movie player and Terra Prime SSD movie server to my home theater setup. Uncompressed movies best video and sound quality. Makes my ultra high end Oppo 4K blu-ray player seem obsolete haha!
Nice setup. I've got a few of those pieces. I haven't splurged for the MCD12000 or C12000 preamp yet, I do like the little handles though, ha. :D What are the lights on the floor you're using to light up the speakers?
That's an amazing system. I've been in this hobby for over 40 yrs. When people ask me why I have so much power for my speakers, I say so they aren't driven into distortion. And when I demo and turn it up fairly loud, I get the, wow that's sounds amazing and it doesn't hurt my ears. Yeah, there isn't distortion fatiguing your ears. I have a clean 2.5K of power and two more 800 watt amps waiting to be integrating. It's a great hobby to be in.
Pan!! You are my "inspiration" 😊😊 Who is like you? You amaze everyone from car detailing to being an audiophile 👍👍 Congrats and keep up the awesome content!
Thank you so much 😀 I’m always glad to hear I can help to inspire my viewers. Hard work can make you accomplish your dreams! And I wish the best to all my viewers.
Pan, love the set up man. I liked your first hfi system video with the focal aria 948 but I can't find one where you talk about the kantas. Could you please link it.
Hey Pan, are you concerned with summation and cancellation from the two subwoofers? Having two you'd only have a natural frequency response if you are exactly equidistant from both.
Absolutely no worries. The system plays so good. I also have dual subs in my home theater. When properly setup, having dual subs is much better than a single one. You should read up on it. See this article: www.svsound.com/blogs/subwoofer-setup-and-tuning/75040195-why-go-dual?_gl=1*1ryda5i*_ga*YW1wLVppWXVnTktWMmxTMzB1RnIzU21LUVE.#
Mac stuff is pretty easy to keep clean. Quick wipe periodically with a good microfiber is usually all that is needed. Vertical heat sinks on the amps are kind of crud catchers though. Compressed air works there.
WOW! What a HUGE upgrade, Pan. I have heard such a setup here in the States, and it is excellent. One suggestion: pull the B&Ws out into the room, about 3 feet from the front wall. Your soundstage will get deep and holographic as well as wide. Enjoy!
Yeah I don’t have the place for putting them that far out unfortunately. The space was initially designed for my custom home theater, so that’s where all the thought process went. I never thought I’d splurge on a stereo setup of this magnitude as well haha. I have issues. 😂
@@PanTheOrganizer I can totally relate. My tastes in cars, audio, and details are just like yours. Now, I just need to figure out how to build a side hustle like yours so I can finance my champagne tastes...
Hehe in my case though, it has nothing to do with a side hustle. It's a high paying job, my investments in the financial markets, and decades of hard work and making smart moves and investments that got me to this point in life. Nothing comes easily. I'm a strong believer of hard work and having goals to surpass. It pushes me to always reach for new heights.
@@PanTheOrganizer Yeah, I was on that path too, then got blindsided by divorce about 8 years ago, which sliced everything I had built in half. It's taken me this long to get clear of child support and start to get my feet back under me. So for me, it will take a side hustle in addition with my decent-paying job (in commercial AV technology) to get to your level, where I want to be. I was actually a financial advisor for 11 years back in the the 2000's. Thanks for being so kind to reply, Pan. I appreciate it.
I totally get where you're coming from. Not an easy situation to go through, so it's nice to see you kept moving forward and focused on rebuilding your life. I wish you all the best. Hard work pays off. The good guys win in the end. ;)
Thank you for emphasising how subjective listening to music is and the difference isn't always about (the most expensive) equipment. If whatever you use enhances your personal listening enjoyment then that's what's right for you. The fun comes from experimenting.
What made you choose the d4"s? I have the original 801 s80's from 1979 and still love them. Did a lot of upgrades. Also had REL 20 years ago. Didn't do it for me so I built multiple subs myself. And finally decided on CSS 15". The specific model isn't around anymore these days unfortunately. But have some selfmade cabinets which are epic.
Thanks man! I’m also a crazy home theater nut! See my latest setup here: th-cam.com/video/V7RTe_Jqx8E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GnGIY3o9jxjIuyNl What HiFi gear do you have?
Wow!! Awesome upgrade! You chose your components very well! It’s easy to imagine how Sweet this system must sound! When it comes to subwoofers, you can never go wrong with REL!
Nice looking. I am 100% with you regarding the 801D4. However, all the rest could be replaced with a NAD C658 (which would provide Dirac room correction) and two Benchmark AHB2 amps in mono. I have 801D2 + Halcro DM88 + NAD C658, and the Dirac room correction is extremely impressive.
@@PanTheOrganizer Guess I don't understand the way this works. I thought you used the auralic to stream from. Did not understand how you got the streaming audio to your speakers.
@Pan i like the rack , you mind putting a link and model of your rack ? Many online shops that offer this rack are based in Europe , would be nice to get the link to this specific model . Also, this is a 5 shelve rack , was the stop piexe purchased separate ? None of the models offer 5 shelve configuration
Hi Pan, love the video and love your attitude toward HiFi! So refreshing to watch your enthusiasm for your setup and repeatedly telling your viewers “this is what I like” and not trying to convince anyone this is the best system for everyone! I am sure you have many hours of enjoyment ahead of you! Congratulations on a beautiful system! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks John! I appreciate the positive feedback. I agree with you 100%. In the HiFi world too often people try to convince others of things like “cables are snake oil” or “vinyl is the best, digital is crap” or “don’t get that brand it’s garbage” etc They should just let people pick what works for them and let them enjoy their music the way they want to, which should be the main focus here: enjoying our passion for music. You could have 100 people in the same room and not two people would have the same exact setup. People have different tastes and budgets. There is no “one system bests them all” type answer. Buy what makes you happy and what makes you tap your feet. :) What setup do you currently have?
The 801's with a lot of power behind them are incredibly precise in the bass. Most systems are very mushy in the low frequencies. However you have have immense current availability because when the piston needs to move quickly the electromagnetic force needed means you have to deliver huge currents briefly, so although you only need a few watts to run them normally, you gotta have that giant reserve of power.
Most systems are "very mushy in the low frequencies" not because of the speakers whatsoever, but because of room acoustics. Even basic room correction will take away narrow peakes in bass response from room modes, and after that's done you'll hear bass is not "mushy" at all anymore. After learning how to do room correction, I have not once heard bass in an uncorrected stereo system that even comes close to mine, even in systems literally 20 times the price of mine. Because most of these megabuck systems are owned by purists who never quite understand sound and audio
I was fortunate enough to hear the 801's in San Rafael CA at a fancy home theater store that is probably long gone. Those 16 inch woofers, when powered by 1000 Watts with no fancy electronics are super tight, like being in a room next to the kick drum. The founder of Sony Akio Morita had special 3ft wide speakers put in his ceiling so that he could have the most faithful bass experience. The physics of air require either a very large piston, or a big electrostatic membrane kind to push a large area of air swiftly. Most subwoofers and bass reflex systems are incredibly mushy, as they trade accuracy for volume (that is way late time-wise).@@andrewleigh3
@@andrewleigh3 yes, I listened on my IPad through ear buds. The sound of the system, through my IPad, just didn’t sound that good at all and I couldn’t justify the price this system would cost based on this. Lol.
This is probably up there with some of the best systems in the world's personally I have never heard the imaging and staging coming from such a high end system, but could only presume it would be sublime.
That's your opinion. Again, I beg to differ. But you don't see me arguing and trying to convince people of things... If you believe it does nothing, than good for you. You saved a bunch of money. But just so we're clear on your background as an audiophile, what equipment and setup do you have?
I have the "One" album with all their hits. I can't say it's an audiophile grade recording (like an SACD from Pink Floyd for example), but it's fun to listen to! :)
Did you try to put both subs next to each other where the rack is? You will have better coverage with one center position instead of left right so that other listeners positions will have similar experience on low end as you have in the sweet spot.
I let the installers do their things and position the setup and calibrate it. They know their stuff. They did the best with the space they had (as I also have a high end custom home theater setup right next to it). The room was planned for the Home Theater, so the HiFi is a little bonus hehe.
Eye Candy for sure. Very nice. I was always taught to avoid having excessively long speaker cable and certainly never to coil it. What are your thoughts on this?
Unbelievable system. Beautifully executed and researched. I’m a McIntosh MA5300 guy with Sonus Faber Olympics Nova 1s and while fairly good, it’s nothing like the system you’ve built.
Second question:did the retailer make any measurement to make sure you dont have any phase issues resulting in cancelations where the main speakers overlap in frequency with the subwoofers?
Hey Pan, can you tell me what kind of paint you used for your theater? I have a grey right now, but looking to do the ceiling and walls darker. If you have a specific paint code and type of finish, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thank you sir. Stavro
Wow most impressive system, my dream speakers are the same you own. I have listened to alot of different brands and b&w are my absolute favorite. My sourround system is only b&w, absolut joy to listen to.
Nice system. I'm curious why you chose to have your rack right in the middle of sound stage? I know dealers do this at shows, but it's preferential to put the equipment off to the side and not between the speakers. Also, have you experimented with your sub placement?
The team who installed it are quite experienced and tried a bunch of different placements of equipment. The basement was designed with the home theater in mind (my priority) so I knew the location of the HiFi setup would be trying to do the best with what place was left. But at the end of the day, what counts most is how it actually plays, and it sounds amaaaaazing. All my audiophile friends who come over, and they are quite picky, always have their jaws drop when listening to it.
It’s bulletproof. Zero issues with any of the components so far. But I also have a very high end, overkill enterprise level network at home with UniFi Dream Machine, UniFi Enterprise Pro 2.5G swtich 48 ports, three UniFi U6 Enterprise WiFi 6E access points, etc.
Hi Pan Great system, I am thinking about getting one carbon special and adding another next year, Can you tell me where you got those floor lights highlighting your speakers?
Very nice. If I had to criticize, those subs are small for those diamonds. I’d expect 18”s or even 24”s available. Playing like 30hz and below. Or not even have them. Are they time aligned? Tuned w REW or similar?
Believe me, these REL are top tier and having two is overkill. They are just there to fill that lower part and add a foundation on top of which the speakers can build up on. A friend of mine had a 2M setup with six of these in a line array setup and that system is the best I have ever heard. I made a quick video here: th-cam.com/users/shortsydRetDfgICg?si=GfdgRBXzqb6hRXGh
@@PanTheOrganizer I'm sure they're super good. Top tier is great. They apparently sell a lot of them if you're buddy has 6. My criticism is only in system design. Not whether the gear is nice enough. Your B&Ws literally have woofers in them already. If you have small subs to save space, fine. But I see a bit of redundancy here. "fill that lower part and add a foundation" sounds like something the sales guy told you. I'll be evaluating/tuning (this weekend) some SF Olympica Nova Vs with MC1.25s and a bunch of other MC boxes.. with unknown subs. I'll have to report back if that sounds interesting.
I am very thorough in A & B testing when selecting components for a new system. This is my 7th or 8th big setup at this point in my life, so I have quite a bit of experience. I attend audio shows as well which helps familiarize myself with new products or new brands. But testing in a quiet room with music I am used to is key. I'm sure you know how important the synergy between components is. You can have the best speakers in the world and the best amps, but they might not be a perfect pairing. So when I tested this setup without the subs, and then we added the subs, it was night and day. To anyone who thinks subs aren't needed in a HiFi setup, I beg to differ. Heck even that 2M setup doesn't sound remotely the same without the subs in play. It's another world. You have to test. :) I'm guessing you are a system installer or HiFi shop owner? You seem to have experience in the field. I don't claim to be as experimented as experts, as it's a hobby for me, but I always deal with top tier professionals from reputable audio shops near me.
@@PanTheOrganizer A/B testing is great. Toole talks at length the benefits. But even with him, you have to consider context, as most of his teachings are based around working in the industry. Myself, I try to stay out of the industry officially but who knows what the future holds. Being familiar with products and brands, and dealing with shops shows you are an educated consumer. But I encourage you to delve deeper. Especially with the money being spent! As of late I am heavily involved with competition car audio. The sound quality/audiophile side. In a vehicle, synergy and system design is paramount. By that, I don't mean equipment just has the same name brand on it. (Although there is some great equipment coming from brands like Dynaudio, Focal, Scanspeak, etc.) If you're not familiar, we do extensive amounts of tuning with high powered DSP. Including fully active parametric EQ, time delay, phasing, all pass filters, crossovers, etc. for each individual driver. (usually a 3 way front stage and subwoofer somewhere) Individual amp channels for each. Personally, I "tune" my vehicles, as well as others and am dipping my toes into evaluating home systems. Using software such as REW and SMAART. So I would say, pro-level, but I think going "professional" would take all the fun out of it! Possibly more involved than you want to be, I think you've already mentioned a professional evaluating the sound. All of this to say... If you really want to blow your buddies away, Get bigger subs!
I don't overthink the moment when it comes to Hip-Hop on a high end system, as hip hop tracks aren't what audiophiles consider good recordings anyways. But some of the good ones include Jay-Z and Dr Dre.
But you can still help clean up that signal from the wall before it actually reaches the equipment. And then have another stage of filtration from the power cable into the power conditioner, etc. It's too long to write, but do you research and draw your own conclusions. In case with super high end setups like these, cables can make a difference. Not as much as getting better speakers or amplifiers, but in the chain of tweaking, when you are at a point where you already invested in super high end gear, speaker cables, power cables and interconnects can often give you that little extra percentage in sound quality. Do A & B testing and see if you can hear it. If you can't hear a difference, great. You saved a bunch of money hehe. But I certainly can hear a differences with the ultra high end speaker and power cables on proper setups. And many fellow audiophiles do as well.
Thanks! I don't discuss prices on TH-cam though as there are too many jealous people on social media. One can imagine that a system of this magnitude doesn't come cheap though. Do you have a HiFi setup yourself? What gear do you own?
I absolutely love Focal speakers, so yes I considered some Focal Sopra No 3, and Focal Maestro Utopia EVO speakers. But ultimately, I wanted a completely different sound signature, as I often do when buying a new system. I also considered some Wilson Audio Sasha V and Alexia V speakers, and some speakers in the Magico lineup. The Wilson Audio Alexia V would have been my choice had I not listened to the B&W.
@@PanTheOrganizer Parasound A21 amp, Wharfedale Linton speakers, Topping A70Pro Pre-amp and WiiM Pro+ Streamer. Buchardt A10 is next, which is an all in one system. also I too love the Turtle Wax Flex Wax, just too easy to use for almost anything, anytime, anywhere.
I don't touch them so they never have swirls. But if you do have swirls, any light polish will do. Something like Sonax Perfect Finish. You could even hand polish using a microfiber towel and the polish.
Congrats. You have obviously succeeded in life, and hard work. It's nice to be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.I have taken the last 5 years and have put 2 systems together with room treatments. I have stayed brand loyal as well with my gear and cable. I like that you do what's correct for you and your room, trust your ears, and not every opinion offered on the net. People get so confused in too many opinions, and then these little clubs/ groups start to form. I say Money aside, if the what you are hearing makes you smile and feel good, you have achieved your goal.
I fully agree with you on everything you said here. Yes it's a lifetime of hard work to get to this point in my life, and now I can fully indulge in my passions, and movies and music are certainly a part of that. And yes you have to get what sounds and looks best to you, not what some "internet experts" tell you to get, or how you should setup your room haha. This is my seventh or eighth system in my life at this point, and I always take my time to properly select the gear for optimal synergy and what sound signature I prefer at a given moment, do A & B comparison tests and make sure I listen to the music I am familiar with. What system do you have currently?
@@PanTheOrganizer I am running Sugden MPA-4 mono blocks with matching LA-4 pre amp. I have Dynaudio Confidence 30 speakers. Saturn Audio , DAC,Phono stage and Power conditioner. All Wireworld Silver Eclipse 8 cables. Audiolab 9000 CDT and a Marantz TT with Jeff spall Series 6 tone arm, With a Goldring Ethos Cart.
Too many to remember all of them, as this was a process over many months. Selecting components for a system of this magnitude takes time, a lot of A& B testing, and visiting many different audio shops, as not one carries all the brands. In the top contenders, there were Sonus Faber Il Cremonese, B&W 801 D4 and 802 D4, Wilson Audio Sasha V and Alexia V, Magico S5 MKII, Focal Sopra no 3 & Maestro Utopia EVO.
With all of the tubes in your beautiful rack full of McIntosh equipment, I thought for sure I would see the MC901 1-Channel Dual Mono Amplifier next. Am I correct in assuming your choice was due to the 1.25 kW, which far eclipses the MC901 power?
The MC901 is a great amp, but I preferred the MC1.25KW. A full solid state amp always has more power and control, which is what I prefer sonically. The rest of the flagship preamp and DAC are already in tube mode, so I didn't want to sway too much on the warm tones. I like a well balanced system. And with the MC1.25KW, I am future proofing my setup in a sense, as I know with confidence that it will be able to handle pretty much any speaker I connect to it. When I look at the meters, I barely go above 12 watts at my normal listening volume... Needless to say, these amps have a lot of headroom haha. Thanks for watching David! By the way, if you mentioned the MC901, I'm assuming you're an audiophile. What kind of setup are you running?
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you so much for such a detailed answer, with both real and thoughtful explanation. I am not sure that I am in your league of knowledge, but through folks like yourself, I continue to learn. As you likely realized, am a fan of McIntosh. Mine, however are what most folks would refer to as vintage these days. A pair of 1965 MC40's to be exact. As you understand so well, they are very warm. Since they are the only tubes in the mix, the end result is not too warm. Thank you again for your additional info. I am your newest subscriber!
Thanks David! Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on TH-cam as we surpassed 910,000 subscribers and we have over 120 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing. How did you discover my channel by the way?
It would be unfair to compare them, as the Revel flagship Performa Be series are many times the price of the Golden Ear or Sonus Faber... If you have a big budget, then the Revel are in another league for sure. The Revel are well into the five figures. Bang for buck though, the Golden Ear speakers are pretty awesome. I had the Triton Two+ series, which is on the higher end, but you can get less expensive series in their lineup and they'd still likely do better than your Klipsch. What series of Klipsch speakers do you own?
@@PanTheOrganizer klipch rf 7s but wanted to upgrade. Saw u had sonus faber and golden ear prior and wanted ur input. I use mine for home theater and 2 channel but don't plan to spend too much. Thx saw ur new set up wow nice.
I appreciate that he loves what he has and isn't pretentious. I wouldn't even know where to begin to operate this 😂. The only thing that i would change is have the stack somewhere in a well ventilated enclosure off to the side. You still want it visible for ease of use and displaying its beauty, but front and center seems off to me.
Crazy high-end setup! No expense spared. I was just watching a video on the showcase of the 801D4 Signature with the Michi monoblocs. This setup is way heavier on electronics than even Bowers and Wilkins used to showcase their speakers 😀. Do these speakers need a sub and can a sub match the quality of bass of the Aerofoil bass woofers? Never seen so many different ways of amplification and especially at the pre-amp and controller level. Just out of curiosity, did you use room correction at all?
Thanks! No room correction here, just trial and error for proper positioning of speakers, and a lot spent on an acoustician to get room measurements and report provided to a team that took care of room treatment.
Oh my god. This system not only looks fantastic but sounds much better than most ive had the pleasure of listening too. I looked at a mcintosh set up around 6 months ago. Clearly in the uk this system would set you back around 150k. I envy you sir. The b&w 801d currently are 32k each in the uk. I cant express how insane this system is. You surely must have done alot of homework to see how well they all float together. Thank you for showing this extreme set up. Pitch perfect 😊
Thanks for the kind words! Yes it’s truly amazing to listen to, and allows me to enjoy my music like never before. And yes you are 100% right. There was a lot of time and research to get to this point, and also testing different setups and configurations before making my final decision. Do you have a HiFi setup? If yes, what gear do you have?
@@PanTheOrganizer after looking into listening to my music in the best way I could and being a fond dj enthusiast I went the opposite way and decided on Devon dj6000. I know its not a good way to go but my dj gear with the mixer and monitor speakers means I can sit and try and mix the un mixable. In the good old days many moons ago I had the numark cdj 1000, ppd mixer, kaos pad 2 and a kork electribe with valves in a window. The set up I have now is no where as good as what I'd like and if money was no issue my dream set up is very similar to what you have. Mcintosh are the bees knees. I'm currently out shopping my friend but once home will see what gear I have set up and let you know. To me your the god of audio! Thank you for letting me see the perfect pitch!
I bought a $300 Yamaha receiver from Best Buy last week. It sounds great.
It would, I have some Yamaha from the 80s, still great.
So long as it sounds good to you, that's all that matters.
@@chuckmaddison2924 I’ve got a 1979 Yamaha Cr440 still kicking
Man, me too. Speakers are the main equipment in audio system. Not amplifier and dac. Off course if you are not an audiophile)
Clueless on the incredible sound high end amps and speakers actually create! Those Bowers and Wilkins 801's are $50K each! Let me guess you spent $100 on speakers and they sound great too? LMFAO
I've to say you maybe are one of the very few who has made a statement that is so true, the system sounds good and is great if you like it and no two tastes are alike. I have purchased systems beginning in 1974 and I have to say what you've said is so true and if someone tries to tell you differently don't let them. Audio equipment should be what you like and nothing else no matter what anyone else says!
Well said. 👍🏻
Well done sir! I’m a professional audio engineer, have published music for over 23 years and I master and work with musicians to shine on these types of systems. I’ve be running B&W Nautilus for over 20 years. My 805s are still in my A/B mastering chain. You did it right my friend. I’d love to see a nice turntable in your setup.
Thanks!
@@stereothrilla8374 I Heard B&W 805's at a lengthy session and was VERY impressed.
I have only Seen one Nautilus Speaker System at a great used Audio Store; unfortunately the Owner didn't have 4 Spare Amplifiers, LOL.
Could not agree more.
Don't try this at home.
WARNING!
Have no fear; that is impossible.
@@ethorii Okay...now I drink my coffee.
Aunty police bulalegi😅
Dont worry. I couldn't afford to try this at home. 😂
Man’s livin the dream for all of us who can’t
My goodness this does look incredible. This is the epitome of what hard work can build. Few of us will never even experience the sound, let alone have this for our own. Congratulations Pan.
Thanks John!
Honestly, just find a Funktion-One, Danley, or HSD sound system closest to you.. The experience will be far superior and you'll pay wayyyy less lol
You can get a decent sound on a cheaper setup. If you can afford this setup go for it. Otherwise there are really good stereoamps, cd players and speakers for less money that will give you a really good sound quality. My setup is as follows: ML classic ESL 9 electrostatic speakers, accuphase dp 450 cd player and BMC C1 integrated stereoamp
I second the guy below me, just find an electronic music event with a Funktion-One, Void, or L-Acoustics sound system to experience ultimate sonic bliss.
Absolutely looks like I’d have to sell my car for that cable alone😊
Wow, so impressive. When you get into something you don’t mess around, do you? This is very apparent with the detailing tools and products you use, to your garage setup, to your choice of car, and now your choice of stereo. Kudos to you. What you hear on your stereo is probably what one hears sitting in the recording studio with the band and musicians sorting across from them. Really cool! More power to you and wishing you continuing success so you could enjoy the best things money can buy. 👍
Thank you very much! Hard work pays off.
From detailing Porsche to listening to a full McIntosh rack, you are amazing Pan! Thank you for sharing all your passions with us!
Glad you enjoyed it! Do you also have a HiFi setup ?
@@PanTheOrganizer Yes Pan I do! My system consists of the following: I switch between the SONY DA5500ES Receiver & my Pioneer vintage 1050 Receiver, Vandersteen 2Ce Signature III Speakers, the Thorens TD 295 MKIII Turntable, the Sony - UBP-X800M2 Blu-Ray/SACD Player and the Pioneer Elite PDR-W739 CD-R Recorder all connected with Monster cables.
Sweet!! Who are your favourite artists to listen to?
@@PanTheOrganizer Right now Pan, I'm listening to various live shows of Genesis from 1977 - 1981, Hammock, Ulver, Hidden Empire, Buckethead and Jean-Luc Ponty.
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Cool setup.
Let me get this straight...so the electrical and acoustic engineers who designed and built the equipment, costing tens of thousands of dollars, deliberately supplied the equipment with power cables that screw up the equipment's performance?
Can you please explain what "junk" is removed from an AC mains line? The power cables supplied with the equipment pass rigorous testing to ensure safety, did your aftermarket cables get the same rating?
Do your research. Any stock power cable supplied with components is cheap garbage. The components are well engineered. The issue isn’t there. It’s in the poor overseas sourced 5$ cables that they supply.
not exactly but some companies do it better than what is supplied and he says he notices the difference easily so if you have no budget....why not
I couldn’t think of a nicer guy to have all of this beautiful audio equipment. Congratulations Pan, enjoy mate, I know you’ve worked so hard for it. 👍🏻
Thank you kindly!
How do you know how hard he worked for it? The richest people in the world do not work at all, and tbh those hands look soft lol.
@@serithin4703 The rich work smart, not what most people would call "hard".
@@dandiehm8414 The rich don't (work) at all
Thanks for sharing Pan. I walked into an audio store with some high end equipment and got to listen to one of my favorite artist play a bass and I could hear finger slides on the strings that I never heard before. True audiophiles appreciate what you shared.
I agree. Some people think high quality audio gear is a waste of money. I think that is complete nonsense. Usually it's those who can't afford systems that say that, because if they actually are honest and get to listen to their favourite recordings on a proper system, it's impossible not to get moved by the music and hear things you wouldn't on a normal setup or your phone. I usually tell people to "be and let be". Be happy for others and if owning a system isn't for you, then that's ok too. :)
I have been a music lover for decades, and getting to enjoy my favourite music on a quality setup is really soothing to me.
@@PanTheOrganizer Pan, checkout the song Pearls by Sade. I can’t imagine how awesome it would sound on your system. The strings at the beginning are soul stirring and the purity of her voice is amazing. Enjoy!
Wow. I have always dreamed of having McIntosh equipment. I used to work at an electronics store where i got my Rotel and Paradigm system. Nothing even close to that though. I bet your system sounds absolutely amazing in person. Amazing!
Thanks! Yeah people who come over and listen to it usually qualify it as “breathtaking”. It’s like a private concert with the artist in front of you.
One of the happiest man alive😎😎 He looks so happy around his equipment...
I really am! hehe. It's a wonderful setup to allow me to indulge in my passion for music.
what a beautiful system you have there Pan, have you ever listen to PMC speakers?
Thanks! I never heard of that brand unfortunately.
@@PanTheOrganizer probably good that you haven’t lol best speakers I’ve ever heard and used in all recording studios all over the world check them out
The lights facing the speaker is a clever idea. What fitting is it. Is it battery operated
That is an incredible system you've put together, nicely done and thank you for sharing. Enjoy your gear!!
Thanks for watching
Congratulations on putting together this sublime audio system. You did a huge service mentioning that people should go with what sounds best to them. I was lucky enough to do A/B testing with power cables about a month after I'd lived with my system and the differences from the factory-supplied cable were jaw-dropping. Highly recommended upgrade.
Thanks!
what i want to know is if you can hook your computer up to the system in the video. digital optical port probably be some decent sound.
Placebo effect
@@XXPYR0XX I'm sure he can. That DAC had 11 inputs, he said. And the Digital Streamer also is hooked up over ethernet, so probably the computer audio can be played over the network.
That's so cool to be able to switch from tubes to solid state. I think I'd prefer the tubes to be a bit more highlighted like a regular tube amp. McIntosh is the top of the line. Can't go wrong there.
Thanks! And yeah in my case we used all tubes as that’s what sounded best to me.
Excellent choices Pan! But where is the turntable??? You gotta play some vinyl with that system!!!
No vinyl for me. I respect those who like it, but I prefer master recordings in SACD/DSD or high res streams from Qobuz and Tidal.
Pan, you obviously appreciate equipment which looks as good as it sounds. You have an amazing system. Well done!
Thank you kindly! I appreciate it Ted. I have a passion for music, so the system is a vehicle for me to be able to indulge in my passion.
Do you have a HiFi setup yourself? What gear do you own?
Wow I had no idea you were into audio. I’ve been watching your car reviews since last year but have been into audio since forever. You would definitely qualify as an audiophile.
Glad to know we share similar interests! :)
Hehe thanks! Yeah I have shared many of my passions on my channel in past videos through the seven years since I started on TH-cam. I have a passion for music, HiFi setups, movies, home theaters, computers, sneaker collections, luxury watch collections, and cars. All the guy "sicknesses" as I call them haha.
This is probably my 7th or 8th HiFi setup at this point in my life. Every time I promise myself this is my "end game" setup, it never is. There's always something new, or when you save up more for your budget, you can access an entirely new bracket of components. I love listening to music, so having a high fidelity setup allowing me to indulge in that passion is so much fun.
What HiFi setup do yo own?
Same here! I used to work in a higher end audio store!
@@PanTheOrganizer I used to own a pair of Devialet Phantom Reactor 900’s for my music, but then swapped them our for a pair of Gold Phantoms. You could argue that they don’t deliver the performance for price, and I myself would not consider them to be audiophile grade, but man I have never since heard such low end performance from such small cabinets.
I then swapped them out for a pair of LS60 wireless floorstanding last year and have had these since. I usually stick to all in one active units as I don’t have the luxury to experiment with external amps or dacs, however I have many a headphones and use balanced Drop+Grace dac with balanced thx AAA 789 amp to power them.
Music is certainly a passion and people become very confused as to how we can “waste” money on audio equipment. But you can’t put a price on passions, because it’s what we live for.
Keep it up Pan. You inspire us all!
Yeah I know Devialet products quite well, I myself have a limited edition sage green version of the new Phantom II, and for its size (it's in my living room), people are always blown away by the power and sound quality that comes out of there, and super low distortion even at crazy loud volumes. It's a great party trick haha.
I also had some LS50 wireless speakers (which I reviewed in this video: th-cam.com/video/sjdP8XYiDSY/w-d-xo.html) and those two were great. UniQ technology baby!
And I fully agree with you, nobody should argue when it comes to passions. Let people enjoy what they worked hard to achieve and purchase. I think usually, those who say it's a waste of money simply don't have the money to afford high quality setups, so they have to belittle others to make themselves feel better about not owning a great setup. I can assure you that if they won the lottery or had a higher paying job, they would jump on the chance to own a great sound system!! ;)
😂Really what gave it away ..the 100k + system.🤔😁
You could charge admission to come and listen to this. Bravo!
Thanks!
The McIntosh gear is gorgeous. Even if you didn't power up the system is amazing to look at. Excellent choice in rack too!
Thanks James!
You've chosen very wisely sir. Im a big fan of B&W speakers and almost have a museum of different models! Keep those midrange drivers dry and be ultra careful of the fragile diamond tweeters. Any plans to get a turntable? SME model 60 ❤
Thanks, will do! No turntable in short term plans, I’m not a vinyl guy, but maybe one day for fun! 😁👍🏻
Now that is an amazing hifi system. Love the amps and b&w speakers. incredible!
Thanks!
Amazing set up well done
Thanks!
Your thought process of course is second to none, this system is insane and I hope you enjoy!
Just from the demo at the end, I like this system a lot. The sound is crisp, I like listening to each component of the beat and this makes it easy. I can't imagine it in person! You've outdone yourself sir!
Thanks!! And that sound clip was just a copyright free song (to make sure I don't get a copyright strike) so it's not even something well recorded or "audiophile grade" by any means. Putting a proper SACD or HiRes stream from a master audio file on there is simply audio bliss!
I listened to the demo on a very nice stereo and it didn't sound good. It totally loses it in the translation. But you have an ultimate dream set up that I would love to listen to and aspire to. I bet it sounds epic in the room. Well done!
Merci PAN. Loved the video and the passion that you have about the system and relaying that to us.
I have watched a few of your videos and while watching this one, I went and subscribed, hopefully now you can go and buy those Sigma cables.
It must be surreal to actually hear those BW speakers in person. I live in Montreal if you ever have an open house :)
Thanks! Since the video I did upgrade the Alpha series speaker and power cables, which are already high end cables, to their even higher end Sigma series.
I also added the new flagship Kaleidescape Strato C 4K movie player and Terra Prime SSD movie server to my home theater setup. Uncompressed movies best video and sound quality. Makes my ultra high end Oppo 4K blu-ray player seem obsolete haha!
Nice setup. I've got a few of those pieces. I haven't splurged for the MCD12000 or C12000 preamp yet, I do like the little handles though, ha. :D What are the lights on the floor you're using to light up the speakers?
Some cordless LED spotlights I had seen at an audio show, the effect was so cool, I decided to get some. Here's a link: amzn.to/3SABKX8
That's an amazing system. I've been in this hobby for over 40 yrs. When people ask me why I have so much power for my speakers, I say so they aren't driven into distortion. And when I demo and turn it up fairly loud, I get the, wow that's sounds amazing and it doesn't hurt my ears. Yeah, there isn't distortion fatiguing your ears. I have a clean 2.5K of power and two more 800 watt amps waiting to be integrating. It's a great hobby to be in.
Thanks Michael. Exactly. Headroom is important. And that extra power allows to hear all the details even at low volume.
I am in love with each piece of your equipment. I wish you many, many years of enjoyment.
Thank you very much!
Pan!! You are my "inspiration" 😊😊
Who is like you?
You amaze everyone from car detailing to being an audiophile 👍👍
Congrats and keep up the awesome content!
Thank you so much 😀 I’m always glad to hear I can help to inspire my viewers. Hard work can make you accomplish your dreams! And I wish the best to all my viewers.
Pan, love the set up man. I liked your first hfi system video with the focal aria 948 but I can't find one where you talk about the kantas. Could you please link it.
I didn’t make a dedicated video on the setup with the Kantas unfortunately.
Hey Pan, are you concerned with summation and cancellation from the two subwoofers? Having two you'd only have a natural frequency response if you are exactly equidistant from both.
Absolutely no worries. The system plays so good. I also have dual subs in my home theater.
When properly setup, having dual subs is much better than a single one. You should read up on it.
See this article: www.svsound.com/blogs/subwoofer-setup-and-tuning/75040195-why-go-dual?_gl=1*1ryda5i*_ga*YW1wLVppWXVnTktWMmxTMzB1RnIzU21LUVE.#
Pan’s buying decision in reality: “finger prints challenge accepted.” 😂👏
Haha!!
Mac stuff is pretty easy to keep clean. Quick wipe periodically with a good microfiber is usually all that is needed. Vertical heat sinks on the amps are kind of crud catchers though. Compressed air works there.
WOW! What a HUGE upgrade, Pan. I have heard such a setup here in the States, and it is excellent. One suggestion: pull the B&Ws out into the room, about 3 feet from the front wall. Your soundstage will get deep and holographic as well as wide. Enjoy!
Yeah I don’t have the place for putting them that far out unfortunately. The space was initially designed for my custom home theater, so that’s where all the thought process went.
I never thought I’d splurge on a stereo setup of this magnitude as well haha. I have issues. 😂
@@PanTheOrganizer I can totally relate. My tastes in cars, audio, and details are just like yours. Now, I just need to figure out how to build a side hustle like yours so I can finance my champagne tastes...
Hehe in my case though, it has nothing to do with a side hustle. It's a high paying job, my investments in the financial markets, and decades of hard work and making smart moves and investments that got me to this point in life. Nothing comes easily. I'm a strong believer of hard work and having goals to surpass. It pushes me to always reach for new heights.
@@PanTheOrganizer Yeah, I was on that path too, then got blindsided by divorce about 8 years ago, which sliced everything I had built in half. It's taken me this long to get clear of child support and start to get my feet back under me. So for me, it will take a side hustle in addition with my decent-paying job (in commercial AV technology) to get to your level, where I want to be. I was actually a financial advisor for 11 years back in the the 2000's. Thanks for being so kind to reply, Pan. I appreciate it.
I totally get where you're coming from. Not an easy situation to go through, so it's nice to see you kept moving forward and focused on rebuilding your life. I wish you all the best. Hard work pays off. The good guys win in the end. ;)
Thank you for emphasising how subjective listening to music is and the difference isn't always about (the most expensive) equipment. If whatever you use enhances your personal listening enjoyment then that's what's right for you. The fun comes from experimenting.
Correct.
What made you choose the d4"s?
I have the original 801 s80's from 1979 and still love them. Did a lot of upgrades.
Also had REL 20 years ago. Didn't do it for me so I built multiple subs myself. And finally decided on CSS 15". The specific model isn't around anymore these days unfortunately. But have some selfmade cabinets which are epic.
Holy crap man Ive been watching your detailing videos for years and didn't know you were a HiFi guy!! Amazing setup!!!!
Thanks man! I’m also a crazy home theater nut! See my latest setup here: th-cam.com/video/V7RTe_Jqx8E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GnGIY3o9jxjIuyNl
What HiFi gear do you have?
Absolutely crazy setup. Just insane! I currently have a Sonos 5.1, but I’ve been paying close attention the the Nakamichi Dragon
Thanks!
Wow!! Awesome upgrade! You chose your components very well! It’s easy to imagine how Sweet this system must sound! When it comes to subwoofers, you can never go wrong with REL!
Thank you very much!
Nice looking. I am 100% with you regarding the 801D4. However, all the rest could be replaced with a NAD C658 (which would provide Dirac room correction) and two Benchmark AHB2 amps in mono. I have 801D2 + Halcro DM88 + NAD C658, and the Dirac room correction is extremely impressive.
I agree, using B&W 802D3’s + Vintage Denon POA-4400 mono blocks + NAD C658. Works for me.
Pan, can you explain when using your transporter as a streaming device how it connects to the audio system for playback? My thanks.
I don't understand your question. I have a separate CD/SACD player/DAC, and a dedicated music streamer. The streamer is connected to the DAC.
@@PanTheOrganizer Guess I don't understand the way this works. I thought you used the auralic to stream from. Did not understand how you got the streaming audio to your speakers.
@Pan i like the rack , you mind putting a link and model of your rack ?
Many online shops that offer this rack are based in Europe , would be nice to get the link to this specific model .
Also, this is a 5 shelve rack , was the stop piexe purchased separate ? None of the models offer 5 shelve configuration
Norstone Spider HiFi equipment rack: bit.ly/3NnwUZ0
Hi Pan, love the video and love your attitude toward HiFi! So refreshing to watch your enthusiasm for your setup and repeatedly telling your viewers “this is what I like” and not trying to convince anyone this is the best system for everyone! I am sure you have many hours of enjoyment ahead of you! Congratulations on a beautiful system! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks John! I appreciate the positive feedback.
I agree with you 100%. In the HiFi world too often people try to convince others of things like “cables are snake oil” or “vinyl is the best, digital is crap” or “don’t get that brand it’s garbage” etc
They should just let people pick what works for them and let them enjoy their music the way they want to, which should be the main focus here: enjoying our passion for music.
You could have 100 people in the same room and not two people would have the same exact setup. People have different tastes and budgets. There is no “one system bests them all” type answer. Buy what makes you happy and what makes you tap your feet. :)
What setup do you currently have?
The 801's with a lot of power behind them are incredibly precise in the bass. Most systems are very mushy in the low frequencies. However you have have immense current availability because when the piston needs to move quickly the electromagnetic force needed means you have to deliver huge currents briefly, so although you only need a few watts to run them normally, you gotta have that giant reserve of power.
Most systems are "very mushy in the low frequencies" not because of the speakers whatsoever, but because of room acoustics.
Even basic room correction will take away narrow peakes in bass response from room modes, and after that's done you'll hear bass is not "mushy" at all anymore.
After learning how to do room correction, I have not once heard bass in an uncorrected stereo system that even comes close to mine, even in systems literally 20 times the price of mine.
Because most of these megabuck systems are owned by purists who never quite understand sound and audio
And you heard this all through your PC speakers?
I was fortunate enough to hear the 801's in San Rafael CA at a fancy home theater store that is probably long gone. Those 16 inch woofers, when powered by 1000 Watts with no fancy electronics are super tight, like being in a room next to the kick drum. The founder of Sony Akio Morita had special 3ft wide speakers put in his ceiling so that he could have the most faithful bass experience. The physics of air require either a very large piston, or a big electrostatic membrane kind to push a large area of air swiftly. Most subwoofers and bass reflex systems are incredibly mushy, as they trade accuracy for volume (that is way late time-wise).@@andrewleigh3
@@andrewleigh3 yes, I listened on my IPad through ear buds. The sound of the system, through my IPad, just didn’t sound that good at all and I couldn’t justify the price this system would cost based on this. Lol.
This is probably up there with some of the best systems in the world's personally I have never heard the imaging and staging coming from such a high end system, but could only presume it would be sublime.
Thanks! Yes it’s truly breathtaking as all the people who have listened to it say. It blows my mind.
I love listening to music on it.
How do you handle the Power Alleys created by separating the subwoofers?
I'd be interested to see how you do with a double blind test for power cables, interconnects.
You dont need a "power controller" , systems already remove "noise" from your electricity supply if there is any.
That's your opinion. Again, I beg to differ. But you don't see me arguing and trying to convince people of things... If you believe it does nothing, than good for you. You saved a bunch of money.
But just so we're clear on your background as an audiophile, what equipment and setup do you have?
@@PanTheOrganizer Crickets in the night.........................................
What a way to accumulate redundant devices, set your money on fire and never look back
So you dont have a hobby or passion? Bummer for you.
This music system is the ultimate artistic expression of musical reproduction. Excellent, life is good..
First thing I'd play: The Beatles.
I have the "One" album with all their hits. I can't say it's an audiophile grade recording (like an SACD from Pink Floyd for example), but it's fun to listen to! :)
Did you try to put both subs next to each other where the rack is? You will have better coverage with one center position instead of left right so that other listeners positions will have similar experience on low end as you have in the sweet spot.
I let the installers do their things and position the setup and calibrate it. They know their stuff. They did the best with the space they had (as I also have a high end custom home theater setup right next to it). The room was planned for the Home Theater, so the HiFi is a little bonus hehe.
Eye Candy for sure. Very nice.
I was always taught to avoid having excessively long speaker cable and certainly never to coil it. What are your thoughts on this?
It doesn’t change anything in my personal experience. Plus for resale value (I change ststems often), longer cables sell quicker.
this dude has too much money...
Unbelievable system. Beautifully executed and researched. I’m a McIntosh MA5300 guy with Sonus Faber Olympics Nova 1s and while fairly good, it’s nothing like the system you’ve built.
Thanks man! You have a cool setup too. What we wouldn’t do for the love of music!
How did you discover my channel by the way?
I found you through my Sony es hifi system I was looking for good Bluetooth to connect to my hifi and for some reason your videos came up😅.
What cable are you running from your switchboard to socket outlets?
I now have Shunyata Sigma series power and speaker cables across the entire setup.
Second question:did the retailer make any measurement to make sure you dont have any phase issues resulting in cancelations where the main speakers overlap in frequency with the subwoofers?
..I only can add... enjoy this precious beautiful sound creation. It's awesome, congratulations....👍
Thanks!
❤❤❤❤ that is so beautiful. Awesome set up. I've never seen anything like that. Just absolutely beautiful. Nice touch.
Thanks Graham! What setup do you have?
@@PanTheOrganizer I have a b&o 5500 from 1987
Hey Pan, can you tell me what kind of paint you used for your theater? I have a grey right now, but looking to do the ceiling and walls darker. If you have a specific paint code and type of finish, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thank you sir. Stavro
I went for matte black from Benjamin Moore. Can’t remember the paint color name or code though.
Wow most impressive system, my dream speakers are the same you own. I have listened to alot of different brands and b&w are my absolute favorite. My sourround system is only b&w, absolut joy to listen to.
Pure dedication and passion to build the best audiophile home system possible. Wonderful.
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HI! I couldnt see it properly... Do you use bi amping for your speakers?
Nice system. I'm curious why you chose to have your rack right in the middle of sound stage? I know dealers do this at shows, but it's preferential to put the equipment off to the side and not between the speakers. Also, have you experimented with your sub placement?
The team who installed it are quite experienced and tried a bunch of different placements of equipment. The basement was designed with the home theater in mind (my priority) so I knew the location of the HiFi setup would be trying to do the best with what place was left.
But at the end of the day, what counts most is how it actually plays, and it sounds amaaaaazing. All my audiophile friends who come over, and they are quite picky, always have their jaws drop when listening to it.
How well does the Wi-Fi on the Auralic work? Thanks, great system.
It’s bulletproof. Zero issues with any of the components so far.
But I also have a very high end, overkill enterprise level network at home with UniFi Dream Machine, UniFi Enterprise Pro 2.5G swtich 48 ports, three UniFi U6 Enterprise WiFi 6E access points, etc.
What for a Sick System and Boyz Room😮😂🎉!!! Congratz my Audiophyle Friend!!! Just great!!! Tnx for Sharing!!!
Thanks man! Appreciate the love for the setup!
Hi Pan Great system, I am thinking about getting one carbon special and adding another next year, Can you tell me where you got those floor lights highlighting your speakers?
Thanks! These are the LED lights that I bought: amzn.to/3EZIru1
@@PanTheOrganizer Thanks
Holy smokes man you have great taste!
B&W, REL, McIntosh! You aren't playing around ❤
I appreciate that! Thanks
Beautiful system!, congratulations!, I hope you enjoy it a lot for a long long time!
Thanks David!
Very nice. If I had to criticize, those subs are small for those diamonds. I’d expect 18”s or even 24”s available. Playing like 30hz and below. Or not even have them. Are they time aligned? Tuned w REW or similar?
Believe me, these REL are top tier and having two is overkill. They are just there to fill that lower part and add a foundation on top of which the speakers can build up on.
A friend of mine had a 2M setup with six of these in a line array setup and that system is the best I have ever heard. I made a quick video here: th-cam.com/users/shortsydRetDfgICg?si=GfdgRBXzqb6hRXGh
@@PanTheOrganizer I'm sure they're super good. Top tier is great. They apparently sell a lot of them if you're buddy has 6. My criticism is only in system design. Not whether the gear is nice enough. Your B&Ws literally have woofers in them already. If you have small subs to save space, fine. But I see a bit of redundancy here. "fill that lower part and add a foundation" sounds like something the sales guy told you.
I'll be evaluating/tuning (this weekend) some SF Olympica Nova Vs with MC1.25s and a bunch of other MC boxes.. with unknown subs. I'll have to report back if that sounds interesting.
I am very thorough in A & B testing when selecting components for a new system. This is my 7th or 8th big setup at this point in my life, so I have quite a bit of experience. I attend audio shows as well which helps familiarize myself with new products or new brands. But testing in a quiet room with music I am used to is key. I'm sure you know how important the synergy between components is. You can have the best speakers in the world and the best amps, but they might not be a perfect pairing.
So when I tested this setup without the subs, and then we added the subs, it was night and day. To anyone who thinks subs aren't needed in a HiFi setup, I beg to differ. Heck even that 2M setup doesn't sound remotely the same without the subs in play. It's another world. You have to test. :)
I'm guessing you are a system installer or HiFi shop owner? You seem to have experience in the field. I don't claim to be as experimented as experts, as it's a hobby for me, but I always deal with top tier professionals from reputable audio shops near me.
@@PanTheOrganizer A/B testing is great. Toole talks at length the benefits. But even with him, you have to consider context, as most of his teachings are based around working in the industry. Myself, I try to stay out of the industry officially but who knows what the future holds. Being familiar with products and brands, and dealing with shops shows you are an educated consumer. But I encourage you to delve deeper. Especially with the money being spent!
As of late I am heavily involved with competition car audio. The sound quality/audiophile side. In a vehicle, synergy and system design is paramount. By that, I don't mean equipment just has the same name brand on it. (Although there is some great equipment coming from brands like Dynaudio, Focal, Scanspeak, etc.) If you're not familiar, we do extensive amounts of tuning with high powered DSP. Including fully active parametric EQ, time delay, phasing, all pass filters, crossovers, etc. for each individual driver. (usually a 3 way front stage and subwoofer somewhere) Individual amp channels for each. Personally, I "tune" my vehicles, as well as others and am dipping my toes into evaluating home systems. Using software such as REW and SMAART. So I would say, pro-level, but I think going "professional" would take all the fun out of it! Possibly more involved than you want to be, I think you've already mentioned a professional evaluating the sound.
All of this to say... If you really want to blow your buddies away, Get bigger subs!
Thanks for sharing Pan. Any Hip Hop you recommend for high-fi listening? So much of my favorite stuff from the 90ties wasn't mastered that well.
I don't overthink the moment when it comes to Hip-Hop on a high end system, as hip hop tracks aren't what audiophiles consider good recordings anyways. But some of the good ones include Jay-Z and Dr Dre.
Why the special power cable? I can understand a heavy gauge of course, but the power behind the wall is still Romex.
But you can still help clean up that signal from the wall before it actually reaches the equipment. And then have another stage of filtration from the power cable into the power conditioner, etc.
It's too long to write, but do you research and draw your own conclusions. In case with super high end setups like these, cables can make a difference. Not as much as getting better speakers or amplifiers, but in the chain of tweaking, when you are at a point where you already invested in super high end gear, speaker cables, power cables and interconnects can often give you that little extra percentage in sound quality. Do A & B testing and see if you can hear it.
If you can't hear a difference, great. You saved a bunch of money hehe. But I certainly can hear a differences with the ultra high end speaker and power cables on proper setups. And many fellow audiophiles do as well.
Beautiful setup and I'm so glad you treated the room. I bet that sounds absolutely amazing. Thanks for sharing buddy
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful setup hifi audio system.. I'm curious how much overall for a/v setup excluding the room acoustic calibrations?
Thanks! I don't discuss prices on TH-cam though as there are too many jealous people on social media. One can imagine that a system of this magnitude doesn't come cheap though.
Do you have a HiFi setup yourself? What gear do you own?
Love the fact you say make it your choice, I have always said the same. You have obviously worked very hard. Great review
I appreciate that!
Awesome system Pan!! Nothing, but the best. Congratulations.
Thanks Kenny!
OMG, that's the most beautiful set-up I've ever seen, well done Pan :O :O
I'll just have to settle for my Pioneer VSX 519 and Wharfedale Diamond 10.1s for the time being 🤣🤣
Thanks!
Superb setup, especially those B&W's....enjoy.
Thanks! 👍
Hello what's your opinion about the focal VS b&w brands? Did you consider the focal sopra or utopia as upgrade
I absolutely love Focal speakers, so yes I considered some Focal Sopra No 3, and Focal Maestro Utopia EVO speakers. But ultimately, I wanted a completely different sound signature, as I often do when buying a new system. I also considered some Wilson Audio Sasha V and Alexia V speakers, and some speakers in the Magico lineup. The Wilson Audio Alexia V would have been my choice had I not listened to the B&W.
Congratulations Pan! That's a beautiful system!!! Thank you for the tour! You are an inspiration.
Thanks man!
Incredible system, wish you many moments of enjoy! I have 4 sets of speakers, going active speakers next.
Thanks! What is your HiFi setup made from now?
@@PanTheOrganizer Parasound A21 amp, Wharfedale Linton speakers, Topping A70Pro Pre-amp and WiiM Pro+ Streamer. Buchardt A10 is next, which is an all in one system. also I too love the Turtle Wax Flex Wax, just too easy to use for almost anything, anytime, anywhere.
This is magnificent… I heard you talking, but I was busy drooling.
Hehe thanks! It’s so awesome to get to enjoy my favourite Mikes Davis master recordings on it! And many more artists of course.
Very impressive to say the least. I just wondered if you auditioned the Naim Statement amps along with say the Kef Blade speakers?
I did not.
Nice system, I have the same subs. What do you recommend for polishing product to removed some swirls?
I don't touch them so they never have swirls. But if you do have swirls, any light polish will do. Something like Sonax Perfect Finish. You could even hand polish using a microfiber towel and the polish.
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you!
Congrats. You have obviously succeeded in life, and hard work. It's nice to be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.I have taken the last 5 years and have put 2 systems together with room treatments. I have stayed brand loyal as well with my gear and cable. I like that you do what's correct for you and your room, trust your ears, and not every opinion offered on the net. People get so confused in too many opinions, and then these little clubs/ groups start to form. I say Money aside, if the what you are hearing makes you smile and feel good, you have achieved your goal.
I fully agree with you on everything you said here. Yes it's a lifetime of hard work to get to this point in my life, and now I can fully indulge in my passions, and movies and music are certainly a part of that. And yes you have to get what sounds and looks best to you, not what some "internet experts" tell you to get, or how you should setup your room haha.
This is my seventh or eighth system in my life at this point, and I always take my time to properly select the gear for optimal synergy and what sound signature I prefer at a given moment, do A & B comparison tests and make sure I listen to the music I am familiar with.
What system do you have currently?
@@PanTheOrganizer I am running Sugden MPA-4 mono blocks with matching LA-4 pre amp. I have Dynaudio Confidence 30 speakers. Saturn Audio , DAC,Phono stage and Power conditioner. All Wireworld Silver Eclipse 8 cables. Audiolab 9000 CDT and a Marantz TT with Jeff spall Series 6 tone arm, With a Goldring Ethos Cart.
The power Amps are Solid State Mosfets I assume and no tubes inside?
Correct. Both monoblocks are solid state.
What speakers did you consider before going with the B&W’s?
Too many to remember all of them, as this was a process over many months. Selecting components for a system of this magnitude takes time, a lot of A& B testing, and visiting many different audio shops, as not one carries all the brands. In the top contenders, there were Sonus Faber Il Cremonese, B&W 801 D4 and 802 D4, Wilson Audio Sasha V and Alexia V, Magico S5 MKII, Focal Sopra no 3 & Maestro Utopia EVO.
@@PanTheOrganizer What was the biggest contender to the 801D or was it an easy decision to go with them?
How do u have ur streamer connected to ur gear. Optical?
With all of the tubes in your beautiful rack full of McIntosh equipment, I thought for sure I would see the MC901 1-Channel Dual Mono Amplifier next. Am I correct in assuming your choice was due to the 1.25 kW, which far eclipses the MC901 power?
The MC901 is a great amp, but I preferred the MC1.25KW. A full solid state amp always has more power and control, which is what I prefer sonically. The rest of the flagship preamp and DAC are already in tube mode, so I didn't want to sway too much on the warm tones. I like a well balanced system.
And with the MC1.25KW, I am future proofing my setup in a sense, as I know with confidence that it will be able to handle pretty much any speaker I connect to it. When I look at the meters, I barely go above 12 watts at my normal listening volume... Needless to say, these amps have a lot of headroom haha.
Thanks for watching David!
By the way, if you mentioned the MC901, I'm assuming you're an audiophile. What kind of setup are you running?
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you so much for such a detailed answer, with both real and thoughtful explanation. I am not sure that I am in your league of knowledge, but through folks like yourself, I continue to learn. As you likely realized, am a fan of McIntosh. Mine, however are what most folks would refer to as vintage these days. A pair of 1965 MC40's to be exact. As you understand so well, they are very warm. Since they are the only tubes in the mix, the end result is not too warm. Thank you again for your additional info. I am your newest subscriber!
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Seen ur other home theater set up how would u compare the revel, golden ear and sonus faber? Looking to upgrade from my klipsch
It would be unfair to compare them, as the Revel flagship Performa Be series are many times the price of the Golden Ear or Sonus Faber... If you have a big budget, then the Revel are in another league for sure. The Revel are well into the five figures.
Bang for buck though, the Golden Ear speakers are pretty awesome. I had the Triton Two+ series, which is on the higher end, but you can get less expensive series in their lineup and they'd still likely do better than your Klipsch. What series of Klipsch speakers do you own?
@@PanTheOrganizer klipch rf 7s but wanted to upgrade. Saw u had sonus faber and golden ear prior and wanted ur input. I use mine for home theater and 2 channel but don't plan to spend too much. Thx saw ur new set up wow nice.
I appreciate that he loves what he has and isn't pretentious. I wouldn't even know where to begin to operate this 😂. The only thing that i would change is have the stack somewhere in a well ventilated enclosure off to the side. You still want it visible for ease of use and displaying its beauty, but front and center seems off to me.
Wow incredible, I’ve got taste similar to yours but not the budget..what did this setup run you “roughly?”
Crazy high-end setup! No expense spared.
I was just watching a video on the showcase of the 801D4 Signature with the Michi monoblocs. This setup is way heavier on electronics than even Bowers and Wilkins used to showcase their speakers 😀. Do these speakers need a sub and can a sub match the quality of bass of the Aerofoil bass woofers?
Never seen so many different ways of amplification and especially at the pre-amp and controller level. Just out of curiosity, did you use room correction at all?
Thanks! No room correction here, just trial and error for proper positioning of speakers, and a lot spent on an acoustician to get room measurements and report provided to a team that took care of room treatment.
Wow congrats that is my ultimate dream sound system. Thx for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Oh my god. This system not only looks fantastic but sounds much better than most ive had the pleasure of listening too. I looked at a mcintosh set up around 6 months ago. Clearly in the uk this system would set you back around 150k. I envy you sir. The b&w 801d currently are 32k each in the uk. I cant express how insane this system is. You surely must have done alot of homework to see how well they all float together. Thank you for showing this extreme set up. Pitch perfect 😊
Thanks for the kind words! Yes it’s truly amazing to listen to, and allows me to enjoy my music like never before.
And yes you are 100% right. There was a lot of time and research to get to this point, and also testing different setups and configurations before making my final decision.
Do you have a HiFi setup? If yes, what gear do you have?
@@PanTheOrganizer after looking into listening to my music in the best way I could and being a fond dj enthusiast I went the opposite way and decided on Devon dj6000. I know its not a good way to go but my dj gear with the mixer and monitor speakers means I can sit and try and mix the un mixable. In the good old days many moons ago I had the numark cdj 1000, ppd mixer, kaos pad 2 and a kork electribe with valves in a window. The set up I have now is no where as good as what I'd like and if money was no issue my dream set up is very similar to what you have. Mcintosh are the bees knees. I'm currently out shopping my friend but once home will see what gear I have set up and let you know. To me your the god of audio! Thank you for letting me see the perfect pitch!
I thought in uk, if they are not Naim or Linn, they are crap….
I believe those monoblock amps are 50k, each. Sweet setup. No vinyl though?
Beautiful setup! Love that McIntosh!
Thank you! Do you have a HiFi system too? What components did you get?
fantastic, well done and congratulations your system is awesome!
Thank you!
Can someone recommend which speaker brands dig into vocals? I like to hear every detail of vocals