When i attempted heartgold i has Lofie the Noctowl She has Hypnosis Fly Shadow Ball Confusion (lack of accessible moves tms and exp so all my team was lvl 37 max) She was a solid special attacker but now i wish i went with fearow due to speed (lance’s team was so powerful my team of jolteon sudowoodo quagsire noctowl ariados and typhlosion was reduced to heal stall for jolteon spamming thunder and landing 12/15 times), and we lost I plan to try again in soulsilver instead with feraligatr persian xatu combo emphasizing exp for select few and then catching wild mon for rest of team
Saw Lanturn in the thumbnail and I had to watch. I love using Lanturn for its wide move pool. Your move set for it is very very similar to mine, except I use Thunderbolt and Ice Beam instead.
9:25 I used Lanturn with surf, discharge, ice beam (and waterfall because its needed) in a HeartGold playthrough last year. I actually had a Gengar with Thunderbolt back it up, but Lanturn defeated Lance's Aerodactyl in two hits!
I used my Lanturn with charge beam( cause you get sp.attack rise from that),surf,stockpile(makes Lanturn even more of a tank) and finally Ice Beam just for dragon type coverege.
My last playthrough, I tried out Forretress and... Let me tell you, I was blown away at how good it was. Great bug/steel is a great typing against team rocket and holds its own very well against the elite 4. It wasn't an overpowered move set but: light screen, bug bite, toxic, and rock tomb got me through the elite 4 much better than I personally expected
Noctowl has always been on my team whenever I play Gold/Silver/Crystal and I love using it in other regions too when I can. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I fell in love with it since the anime. And though I gotta love lanturn, nothing beats mantine in my heart in Johto. I just adore its face and the idea of surfing on its back and flying through the air :P.
For the low accuracy moves, we can also grab the Wide Lens in the Goldenrod Game Corner for only 1,000 coins. Lanturn may even benefit more from the Zoom Lens since it's so slow and the boost from that is greater if you move second. If you're okay with replacing Muscle, you can grab a Machop with the No Guard ability in Mt. Mortar on your way to get Giraffarig. This allows Machoke to always hit with Dynamic Punch as well as Rock Tomb in the early game. Could also go with Rock Slide over Return after you beat Brock. For Arcanine's last move, we could go with Dragon Pulse to help with Lance. Unless you're emulating and can manipulate its IVs, I'd also replace Ninetales' Hidden Power with Nasty Plot since its special attack can be a bit underwhelming. Just grab a Heart Scale and relearn it in Blackthorn City. Other than those nitpicks/alternate options, this looks like a neat team that fits the underrated title. On to Hoenn!
I've used a Lanturn before in Crystal and HGSS in both regular and mono-Water runs, pretty good mon. I subbed out Thunder with Discharge though for accuracy. Signal Beam is just funny to use to slap Psychics and Dark-types. I am looking at you Exeggutor especially! I've only used Girafarig in HGSS, surprisingly good too. I decided to catch one before facing Morty. I can just point and laugh as he tries to use Shadow Ball only to watch it fail. He never used Sucked Punch which made it funnier.
Playing for the first time with very little Pokémon knowledge. Right now I have Croconaw, Hoohoo, Sudowoodo, Exeggcute, and Flaffy. Only have 5 right now because I had Togepi but learned that I can’t get Togekiss so I ditched it. What should I get for my 6th?
These movesets feel like how i played as a kid. I think Lanturn has to have rain dance. It powes up surf and changes thunder's accuracy to 100. It adds some strategy to your battles
I wonder which Kanto Pokémon, and how many, would’ve been able to gain the Dark type in these games. The most obvious one is Gyrados, but I want to know which others could potentially gain the new type
I've seen some people say Arbok to get a Poison/Dark typing. Would have been cool to give Pinsir the Bug/Dark typing as a counterpart to Heracross' Bug/Fighting
Love the videos! I used lanturn not too long ago and it was fun! Any stadium videos planned? I was hoping with it releasing on nso that Id see some content around it, but I havent seen any yet from the ones I follow. Kinda sad, ive been having a blast playing it
@@MysticUmbreon woohoo! A buddy and I did some metronome battles, theres only 5 that have access to it in 1v1, and we filled the last spot with ditto. Even having to use the same team and only using metronome/transform, we still found our own strategies and it was really fun!
I was thinking about that, I just didn't know if you guys were comfortable waiting that long to evolve Vulpix especially considering it would still be a Vulpix by the time you get to the elite four challenge. But I definitely second this if yall are willing to wait and be patient!
@@MysticUmbreon fair enough. I certainly am, since Vulpix is manageable enough to be acceptable on its own since HGSS isnt exactly difficult aside from solo runs
A good thing about this list of you don't like grinding the dome or trying your luck with the trainer you can just choose the fire starter because the rest aren't starters
I am planning to use Arcanine in my heart gold version (playing as a male character) and in Soul Silver, I have used Lanturn before. I will be planning to use it again with the volt absorb ability. It comes in very handy when facing electric types
Not a big fan of Girafarig having two Electric-type moves, honestly. Giving it some Normal-STAB or something else like Energy Ball would be better for it. Same with Noctowl, but I'll excuse that one since we do need a Flyer for this team. Other than that, team looks solid!
And vital throw has negative priority if i remember correctly. Not terrible for a low speed mon but I’d still rather go first sometimes 😊 Btw love your content always a joy to watch
I used Shiny typhlosion(290 resets) Crobat Amphoros( later raikou) Herracross(machamp from goldenrod trade later) Shiny lugia(64 resets) Quagsire I know not related to the video just figure I share.
I hope Noctowl gets Brave Bird if it comes to Scarlet and Violet much like Unfezant got it in sword and shield. I like Noctowl design and always ran a mixed set.
@@AdamDawson3 yeah My favorite isn't returning unfortunately Unfezant always liked design and then it finally got Brave Bird in gen 8 and it was actually good. Some others I wish was returning is Stoutland, Dubwool and Golisopod. At least Toucannon coming back tho that was a cool pokemon.
Heartgold and Soulsilver aren't really the best remakes. They are gen 4 games and gen 4 games are known for their slowness. Not to mention HGSS inherited flaws from gen 2. I would say ORAS are the best remakes to date.
HGSS get carried for having 2 regions and following pokemon, other than that the games have many flaws. Unmemorable towns, pretty bad story, limited pokemon to use, single use tms, reliance on grinding to get tms and evolution stones, many things are post game exclusive, etc
@@nep7939 this. HGSS still inherited old flaws from the originals. Still have Johto pokemon only caught in Kanto, gym leaders using a lot of gen 1 pokemon, etc.
honestly just don't understand why the pokemon games haven't been added to the Nintendo switch GBA service yet. I want to play emerald so bad wtf Nintendo
Lanturn is my favourite Pokemon. It's so underrated. Water electric is a nice typing.
I use Bold 252 defense and sp. Defense EVS With Scald, Discharge, Stockpile and Protect and holding Leftovers
Noctowl getting some love. Such a fun Pokemon with its potential moveset
What hypnosis route?
When i attempted heartgold i has Lofie the Noctowl
She has Hypnosis Fly Shadow Ball Confusion (lack of accessible moves tms and exp so all my team was lvl 37 max)
She was a solid special attacker but now i wish i went with fearow due to speed (lance’s team was so powerful my team of jolteon sudowoodo quagsire noctowl ariados and typhlosion was reduced to heal stall for jolteon spamming thunder and landing 12/15 times), and we lost
I plan to try again in soulsilver instead with feraligatr persian xatu combo emphasizing exp for select few and then catching wild mon for rest of team
He was on my first team ever.
Saw Lanturn in the thumbnail and I had to watch. I love using Lanturn for its wide move pool. Your move set for it is very very similar to mine, except I use Thunderbolt and Ice Beam instead.
This is such an enjoyable wee series of yours. Hope it continues
9:25 I used Lanturn with surf, discharge, ice beam (and waterfall because its needed) in a HeartGold playthrough last year. I actually had a Gengar with Thunderbolt back it up, but Lanturn defeated Lance's Aerodactyl in two hits!
I used my Lanturn with charge beam( cause you get sp.attack rise from that),surf,stockpile(makes Lanturn even more of a tank) and finally Ice Beam just for dragon type coverege.
Can you please tell me what team you had
@@Puja_Devi171I used Meganium, Lanturn, Gengar, Heracross, Mamoswine and Dragonair
@@Puja_Devi171 I used Typhlosion,Heracross,Crobat,Quagsire,Espeon and Lanturn,really great team
My last playthrough, I tried out Forretress and... Let me tell you, I was blown away at how good it was. Great bug/steel is a great typing against team rocket and holds its own very well against the elite 4. It wasn't an overpowered move set but: light screen, bug bite, toxic, and rock tomb got me through the elite 4 much better than I personally expected
I just started a new SS game yesterday this timing is insane haha
Noctowl has always been on my team whenever I play Gold/Silver/Crystal and I love using it in other regions too when I can. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I fell in love with it since the anime. And though I gotta love lanturn, nothing beats mantine in my heart in Johto. I just adore its face and the idea of surfing on its back and flying through the air :P.
For the low accuracy moves, we can also grab the Wide Lens in the Goldenrod Game Corner for only 1,000 coins. Lanturn may even benefit more from the Zoom Lens since it's so slow and the boost from that is greater if you move second.
If you're okay with replacing Muscle, you can grab a Machop with the No Guard ability in Mt. Mortar on your way to get Giraffarig. This allows Machoke to always hit with Dynamic Punch as well as Rock Tomb in the early game. Could also go with Rock Slide over Return after you beat Brock.
For Arcanine's last move, we could go with Dragon Pulse to help with Lance. Unless you're emulating and can manipulate its IVs, I'd also replace Ninetales' Hidden Power with Nasty Plot since its special attack can be a bit underwhelming. Just grab a Heart Scale and relearn it in Blackthorn City.
Other than those nitpicks/alternate options, this looks like a neat team that fits the underrated title. On to Hoenn!
I've used a Lanturn before in Crystal and HGSS in both regular and mono-Water runs, pretty good mon.
I subbed out Thunder with Discharge though for accuracy. Signal Beam is just funny to use to slap Psychics and Dark-types. I am looking at you Exeggutor especially!
I've only used Girafarig in HGSS, surprisingly good too. I decided to catch one before facing Morty. I can just point and laugh as he tries to use Shadow Ball only to watch it fail. He never used Sucked Punch which made it funnier.
Absolutely love that you're a Johto guy. Most underrated gen easily
“Sometimes it’s often overlooked” is a funny statement lol
Playing for the first time with very little Pokémon knowledge. Right now I have Croconaw, Hoohoo, Sudowoodo, Exeggcute, and Flaffy. Only have 5 right now because I had Togepi but learned that I can’t get Togekiss so I ditched it. What should I get for my 6th?
Nidoqueen/ nidoking. Both are poison/ground types. Maybe ditch sudowoodo for a fire type or a steel type and teach quuen/king a fire type move
As good as this team is, is it still a good idea to go for broke and stock up on HP items?? I'm a newbie Pokemon videogame fan.
Nice choices. I used Girafarig in a team a few months ago. He is pretty good
I used a lanturn last run through it was soo much better then I ever imagined
I also however have used noctowl and it was really bad ngl
These movesets feel like how i played as a kid. I think Lanturn has to have rain dance. It powes up surf and changes thunder's accuracy to 100. It adds some strategy to your battles
I dig the team, i've used Lanturn, on a Johto playthrough & it was fun to use something different
Mystic we still don't have a no restrictions team for Heart Gold and Soul Silver.
Oh crap! We actually don't!?
@MysticUmbreon Also hoping to see B
best Team Gale of Darkness then Ultra Sun and Moon No Restrictions afterward.
i would like to see him actually run these do a video of a full run of them
Nidoqueen: Has lower Sp Attack than Attack and has no Sheer Force in HGSS.
Mystic: LeTs RuN AL SpEcIaL AtTaCKs & A cOuPlE w MiD AcCuRaCy!
Still better with special moves
I like your videos and Johto‘s also my favorite region, but I only use Johto Pokémon when I’m in Johto
Why bite over crunch for arcanine?? 🤔🤔
La ntern is so underrated. Gets even better in gen 6 with dazzling gleam
Noctowl is fabulous and its truly incredible.
I just restarted playing this recently, such good timing
I wonder which Kanto Pokémon, and how many, would’ve been able to gain the Dark type in these games. The most obvious one is Gyrados, but I want to know which others could potentially gain the new type
I've seen some people say Arbok to get a Poison/Dark typing.
Would have been cool to give Pinsir the Bug/Dark typing as a counterpart to Heracross' Bug/Fighting
@@matthewroberts198 I've also seen arguments for Hypno becoming psychic/dark, which I'd be cool with.
@@matthewroberts198 those would’ve been cool
@@yorecf9641 those Pokémon are very “Dark”, so to speak
I think Fearow could have lost the Normal type for dark
Love the videos! I used lanturn not too long ago and it was fun! Any stadium videos planned? I was hoping with it releasing on nso that Id see some content around it, but I havent seen any yet from the ones I follow. Kinda sad, ive been having a blast playing it
Stadium sounds interesting... I'll think on it :p
@@MysticUmbreon woohoo! A buddy and I did some metronome battles, theres only 5 that have access to it in 1v1, and we filled the last spot with ditto. Even having to use the same team and only using metronome/transform, we still found our own strategies and it was really fun!
3:27 The Queen would like you to praise her
Loving the series❤
I would’ve used hypnosis via move tutor over hyper beam for Noctowl, also PLEASE evolve Machoke
u can’t evolve machoke. how are we supposed to trade
Honestly for the Ninetails, I would actually swap Hidden Power for Extrasensory as Vulpix gets at 44.
I was thinking about that, I just didn't know if you guys were comfortable waiting that long to evolve Vulpix especially considering it would still be a Vulpix by the time you get to the elite four challenge. But I definitely second this if yall are willing to wait and be patient!
@@MysticUmbreon fair enough. I certainly am, since Vulpix is manageable enough to be acceptable on its own since HGSS isnt exactly difficult aside from solo runs
@@jessedale4287 It's not go for it!
Aside from its typing, is there really a point to using Lantern??? It's stats are garbage and i don't see it killing anything
The irony of a Nidoking following the trainer when discussing its underrated counterpart.
I used graveler quite a bit back in og gen 1, even now in newer editions i think its quite underrated.
I was really hoping to see yanmega or ambipom. Cool vid though
Would you still place Machamp on this team if the player is able to evolve it?
ofc
A good thing about this list of you don't like grinding the dome or trying your luck with the trainer you can just choose the fire starter because the rest aren't starters
I am planning to use Arcanine in my heart gold version (playing as a male character) and in Soul Silver, I have used Lanturn before. I will be planning to use it again with the volt absorb ability. It comes in very handy when facing electric types
What moveset can I do for Nidoking because I'm doing a nuzlocke and this is the Pokemon I found on route 35-36
rn trying to find a DS to replay hgss cause I love it so much c: I’m glad I’m not the only one who loves lanturn
evolving growlithe might have been the most frustrating part of my heartgold playthrough 😂
Feel you cuz stones are hard to get 😂
You could get the stones early, by the Pokéathleon
I had a copy of Heartgold. Played it a lot 😊 its one of my top favorites
I would love to see you use teams made up from pokemon of that generation. It would highlight mons from that generation.
The best remake and it’s not close
I like this team. It looks fun. I never used that fat fish before.
Curious as to why you would teach girafagig thunder and charged beam?
Can you do a best team without starters videos for each game?
How is crobat not in the flying tier he's unreal
Wait, why no trade evolutions?
Not a big fan of Girafarig having two Electric-type moves, honestly. Giving it some Normal-STAB or something else like Energy Ball would be better for it. Same with Noctowl, but I'll excuse that one since we do need a Flyer for this team. Other than that, team looks solid!
I don't think you need a flying type on the team for this challenge just because you want/have to fly.....
Doesn’t Machoke have No Guard Gen 4? 100% accurate crosschop sounds pretty helpful 😮
And vital throw has negative priority if i remember correctly. Not terrible for a low speed mon but I’d still rather go first sometimes 😊
Btw love your content always a joy to watch
If I was Water or Electric Gym, Chinchou or Lanturn will be on most of my teams!
I wouldnt say noctowls special attack is good, its passable at best, the bulk helps though.
For me underrated Pokemon are
Heracross
Donphan
Lanturn
Piloswine
Crobat
Umbreon
Crobat, umbreon, and heracross are some of the most popular Johto mons but ok.
For HGSS, you can evolve Piloswine very easily with a Heart Scale
My SoulSilver team was this.
Crobat, Lanturn, Sudowoodo, Steelix, Bellosum, Espeon.
Speaking of underrated, why have I not seen an underrated Fire type Pokemon list?
You gotta vote for it!
Noctowl YES.
Ninetails and Arcinine so good.
I used
Shiny typhlosion(290 resets)
Crobat
Amphoros( later raikou)
Herracross(machamp from goldenrod trade later)
Shiny lugia(64 resets)
Quagsire
I know not related to the video just figure I share.
Lucky on the soft resets
I hope Noctowl gets Brave Bird if it comes to Scarlet and Violet much like Unfezant got it in sword and shield. I like Noctowl design and always ran a mixed set.
Noctowl is returning in the DLC for Scarlet & Violet
@@AdamDawson3 yeah I seen that didn't know if it was 100% confirmed tho
@@dustin7562 Ekans my favourite Pokemon is returning
@@AdamDawson3 yeah My favorite isn't returning unfortunately Unfezant always liked design and then it finally got Brave Bird in gen 8 and it was actually good. Some others I wish was returning is Stoutland, Dubwool and Golisopod. At least Toucannon coming back tho that was a cool pokemon.
@@dustin7562 I love Unfzant shame its not returning in the DLC same with Pidgeot and Swellow
Why can't nidoqueen have Stab for poison in firered?
Bro please make teams for fangames like pokemon glazed, pokemon undbound and many more fan gba
nice its another team video
Best team for xd gale of darkness?
Nidoqueen is one of my favs in ss
Lanturn-noctowl-umbreon was a great team
No offense but I will never and I mean never use noctowl in a playthrough because it let me down two many times
This good but WHERES THE REAL WORST TEAM SERIES?!
Why special moves on NQ
This was a good team.
No matter what generation : dragonite
He is very consistent with dragon dance and extremespeed.
⛔ It was 999 likes i made it 1K 😎
Am I the only one who only uses Pokémon from the generation I’m playing
Your mom will also give you a moon stone if you leave money with her
Lamturn the best mon on this team
Not bad at all.
Scripting error in this video: you said 'one of the best remakes', when you should have said 'the best remake'
Baity
Stop being mean to meganium
Xatu
1st
Heartgold and Soulsilver aren't really the best remakes. They are gen 4 games and gen 4 games are known for their slowness. Not to mention HGSS inherited flaws from gen 2. I would say ORAS are the best remakes to date.
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER!
Heartgold and soulsilver are leagues better than Omega ruby and Alpha sapphire. There’s no debate lol
HGSS get carried for having 2 regions and following pokemon, other than that the games have many flaws. Unmemorable towns, pretty bad story, limited pokemon to use, single use tms, reliance on grinding to get tms and evolution stones, many things are post game exclusive, etc
@@yaboyriku no they are not. ORAS is far better. HGSS are slow and less updated.
@@nep7939 this. HGSS still inherited old flaws from the originals. Still have Johto pokemon only caught in Kanto, gym leaders using a lot of gen 1 pokemon, etc.
Stop being mean to Farfetch'd and stop saying Noctowl sucks
Nobody talks about Crobat being available in G/S/C/HG/SS 🥲
nice. video
honestly just don't understand why the pokemon games haven't been added to the Nintendo switch GBA service yet. I want to play emerald so bad wtf Nintendo
Tell me why I was just watching your old teams for heart gold and soul silver just yesterday thanks for a update 🥹