I agree with your Gio take. She's amazing on paper but actually really punishing to play in practice. She basically has to adjust her entire gameplan per matchup. Like the way she plays neutral vs Sol vs I-no vs Ky vs Faust are all extremely different to the point its like learning the character over several times. Her damage got the buff it needed with chave combos, but its still extemely hard to access since most people won't press during her pressure unless they're reacting to something like the arrow. Down back + FD will beat like 90% of her pressure, so you just gotta worry about taking a few throws (it takes like 5+ to kill someone) and occasionally jumping. The thing is i dont think she needs buffs at all. She rewards good player for being knowledgable at the game and making solid reads. Instead they just gotta tone down the overtuned cast members to even out the playing field. As Gio mistakes will happen a lot since her pressure extremely interactable, but its crazy how sometimes just eating a DP RC or getting back thrown into the corner can suddenly let the other character go off like crazy, and while not helpless, she definitely can't fight back as well as some characters. Overall i love Gio and i'll never stop playing her, but i do hope she gets a chance to shine more without being broken
I picked up Giovanna as my first character when I had just started the game, and had always been curious about how she would play if her 623S acted as a DP. But even outside of the balance perspective, giving Gio a DP really dissasociates her from her original kit. Although maybe that would be the slight edge she would need to create scramble situations on defense.
Actually gives an unbiased take on HC. Brings a tear to my eye. I do think his rng shot should be taken away. I also think they should increase the amount of concentration focus gives (Maybe like 5-10% more.) or decrease the amount of burst his super gives cause it alone basically gives a free wild assault. Other then that I think he's in a pretty good state compared to what he was in season 1-2 though I will miss the old HC.
Ive seen japanese players call aba top 5 and other people put her bottom 5. I completely agree with your reasoning although I think she is between chip and milia.
I agree with the ABA placement I play her but not well and I am still trying to get better but learning normal mode honestly from what I have seen so far is like the most important part. You have to push pressure when you go into Jel mode but the moment you have to respect your opponent you just have to sit and watch all that jel gauge go down if you cant find a moment to get out of it.
I would say they are more or less ordered, I made this pretty fast and would maybe go back and switch the tier order for a few characters. Although like I said, I wouldn't be surprised to see any character from B tier into EVO top 8. The game is currently the most balanced it has ever been in my opinion, so it's difficult to rank everyone accurately.
I played many games against LordKnight's ABA and it feels extremely hard to correctly manage her meter especially since she hasn't been out for that long. Like I said, I wouldn't be suprised if we see any character from B tier at EVO top 8. Tell me, do you think I'm downplaying because you're an ABA player who thinks she's strong, or because you struggle to fight against her?
He kinda has a reverse snowballing issue if you keep away from the corner. Even if he guesses right eventually he's gonna run out of one resource and most of his mix is reactable so long as you watch for it. Once HC is in the corner and their opponent watches for air escape. It's over until you get a chance with YRC. Also the burst he gives is insane so if you have higher health you can easily get burst back. I understand he has a lot of powerful stuff but you also have consider everything compared to everyone else. Most other characters have some kind of effective counterplay and even those who don't can get around his pressure and zoning. (Except for Zato and A.B.A dependently. I hate the Zato matchup because it's really a game of who can throw who in the corner first. I feel very bad for ABA because if you manage your bar wrong you're just kinda screwed against his zoning until you get 50%.)
Great video, some of the placements are surprising. Subscribed for sure.
Where's my skibidi tier? This is outrageous
I agree with your Gio take. She's amazing on paper but actually really punishing to play in practice. She basically has to adjust her entire gameplan per matchup. Like the way she plays neutral vs Sol vs I-no vs Ky vs Faust are all extremely different to the point its like learning the character over several times. Her damage got the buff it needed with chave combos, but its still extemely hard to access since most people won't press during her pressure unless they're reacting to something like the arrow. Down back + FD will beat like 90% of her pressure, so you just gotta worry about taking a few throws (it takes like 5+ to kill someone) and occasionally jumping.
The thing is i dont think she needs buffs at all. She rewards good player for being knowledgable at the game and making solid reads. Instead they just gotta tone down the overtuned cast members to even out the playing field. As Gio mistakes will happen a lot since her pressure extremely interactable, but its crazy how sometimes just eating a DP RC or getting back thrown into the corner can suddenly let the other character go off like crazy, and while not helpless, she definitely can't fight back as well as some characters.
Overall i love Gio and i'll never stop playing her, but i do hope she gets a chance to shine more without being broken
I picked up Giovanna as my first character when I had just started the game, and had always been curious about how she would play if her 623S acted as a DP.
But even outside of the balance perspective, giving Gio a DP really dissasociates her from her original kit. Although maybe that would be the slight edge she would need to create scramble situations on defense.
I love the outro
"make sure to leave... just leave" vs "I'm gonna gooo shit"
Actually gives an unbiased take on HC. Brings a tear to my eye. I do think his rng shot should be taken away. I also think they should increase the amount of concentration focus gives (Maybe like 5-10% more.) or decrease the amount of burst his super gives cause it alone basically gives a free wild assault. Other then that I think he's in a pretty good state compared to what he was in season 1-2 though I will miss the old HC.
I have a counter argument for potemkin in C-Tier: POTEMKIN BUSTAAAAAAAH
Good video 👍
looking back i might switch potemkin and Giovanna though, I think he has a slightly higher chance of making an apperance in EVO top 8 than gio does
@@felisk4304 tbh I was just fucking around but yeah go for it
Ive seen japanese players call aba top 5 and other people put her bottom 5. I completely agree with your reasoning although I think she is between chip and milia.
"shout out to all my potemkin mains" :D
"he's not that good though" ;(
I agree with the ABA placement I play her but not well and I am still trying to get better but learning normal mode honestly from what I have seen so far is like the most important part. You have to push pressure when you go into Jel mode but the moment you have to respect your opponent you just have to sit and watch all that jel gauge go down if you cant find a moment to get out of it.
thank you for realizing that zato is trash (he still is in 3.75)
Are the individuals in each tier ordered or considered, more or less, equal within the same tier?
I would say they are more or less ordered, I made this pretty fast and would maybe go back and switch the tier order for a few characters.
Although like I said, I wouldn't be surprised to see any character from B tier into EVO top 8.
The game is currently the most balanced it has ever been in my opinion, so it's difficult to rank everyone accurately.
the aba downplay is crazy
I played many games against LordKnight's ABA and it feels extremely hard to correctly manage her meter especially since she hasn't been out for that long.
Like I said, I wouldn't be suprised if we see any character from B tier at EVO top 8.
Tell me, do you think I'm downplaying because you're an ABA player who thinks she's strong, or because you struggle to fight against her?
hc downplay
There's definitely an argument to put him somewhere in top #10, but I don't think placing him at #12 is a bad ranking
He kinda has a reverse snowballing issue if you keep away from the corner. Even if he guesses right eventually he's gonna run out of one resource and most of his mix is reactable so long as you watch for it. Once HC is in the corner and their opponent watches for air escape. It's over until you get a chance with YRC. Also the burst he gives is insane so if you have higher health you can easily get burst back. I understand he has a lot of powerful stuff but you also have consider everything compared to everyone else. Most other characters have some kind of effective counterplay and even those who don't can get around his pressure and zoning. (Except for Zato and A.B.A dependently. I hate the Zato matchup because it's really a game of who can throw who in the corner first. I feel very bad for ABA because if you manage your bar wrong you're just kinda screwed against his zoning until you get 50%.)
Note: Sorry, that's a lot to read.