Uh I would say no, they made the Buzz specifically for Nate Doss and thanks to that the Wasp is only in Z for Production Runs. Also they made for Ricky the Compass in the offseason as the Latude 64 made brands did not have much for midrange discs but that was a disc just like a low to no dome Wasp in lesser plastics but more variety of plastics for full production runs.
It's funny. Guess what mid ranges Paul will throw? The mid ranges that Discraft has. Totally worth it to see him throw them and comment. But there is no choice. No Roc and no Nova. This is going to be an interesting year.
Love the incredibly smooth sidebars and details that go along with this video. Made it simple and easy to watch without having to pause to search stats on these discs...
Man, my mid range game is soooo weak. Thanks jomez, discraft and McBeth for this series. So much anticipation for the next. Can't wait to see 2019s season for both McBeth and Jomez. So many changes but can't wait to see it all unfold!
@jomezpro any way we can get bloopers from this? I love Paul, but he's human and I'm sure he didn't do this all in one take. Think it'd be funny and cool to see kind of a behind the scenes making of this vid
Is this the same guy I saw years ago in the glorious vid explaining his beginnings... how he was shy and took to disc golf... he was shy and yet so authentic in that video that I became an ardent fan of his. So much of a fan that I have watched the "best round ever?" video in which he shot minus 18 on course that is right behind my house somehow thinking it is special when it is just me being selfish to see the best ever throw one of his best on a home course of mine like a hundred times. The cat in the video is so polished, so, oh "professional". My has he matured. Oh I adore the "real" guy of the past. Equally delighted to see the maturation and development and so, so, so hope guys like this are getting paid for the sacrifices they made to get to this type of a pinnacle.
I am not a pro, but as an intermediate rec player, I have always loved the Buzzz backhanded for in the woods straight shots, annies, and moderate hyzers. Other than the Stalker and hyzerflipped Heat, it is super straight out to 290-310 FT. I love the Buzzz OS for forehand straight shots and FH or BH flex lines. Because, as a rec player, I get in jams ALL THE TIME LOL, I also love the Buzzzes for reverse-curl bicep rollers back out onto the fairway. Good Luck to you, Paul! And, thank you, Jomez for bringing us cool coverage on disc-testing/bag-building from a pro! Great stuff!
Good video. Liked it that Paul threw both open and technical/woods shots with the discs. Excellent filming by Jomez, as always. Thanks for bringing this to us.
I have been throwing (almost) exclusively Discraft for the last 8 years now and at the same time have watched (nearly) all of your rounds that have been uploaded to TH-cam. Due to the countless amount of time that I have spent on these now "colliding" subjects I hope that my following two cents will make sense to you. So, you picked some great stable mids (Buzzz/OS/ss & Wasp) and you will have fun with the Drone for utility shots and (heavy) wind. That being said I have several mold recommendations that you may want to consider for comparison. First, the Hornet is similar to the Wasp/Buzzz OS for the first 70-80% of its flight but finishes with much more 'glide' and therefore far less 'low speed fade.' This unique characteristic increases its effective range by about 10-15% over the Wasp/Buzzz OS. The shot that I often see you throw between 300 and 350 feet is a power hyzer playing for a strait skip off the left edge. The hole that comes to mind is number 8 at DeLaveaga OG. I think that you would opt for the Wasp off the tee looking for the play off the 'R to L' slope but as it begins to lose its glide and fade left it will tend to either anti-skip too far right or skip left OB (probably between the logs). The Hornet will retain more glide throughout its flight and tend to only expose just enough rim to continue strait after the skip. Also it has no bead, low profile and clean feeling inner rim. I recommend finding it in ESP between 170-172 g for best results. Second, the Meteor is comparable to the Comet in that they both are high glide understable mids but the meteor will 'flip' much slower throughout its flight. This results in the Meteor having a naturally late turnover which is useful for long continuous annies or low ceiling tunnel shots. Comets tend to have a large 'high speed turn' so that in the first 50-60 feet it covers nearly all of its intended turn. After the initial 'flip' it quickly stabilizes to its natural flight by continuing to annie on a somewhat direct path. This results in the comet being angle sensitive and in my own opinion a bit "squirrely." With the Meteor's more gradual turn that is 'rounded-out' flight I believe that you will find it to be less touchy and more forgiving in the woods vs. the Comet. It also has a low profile, soft edges, and is fantastic for forehand touch shots (especially high annie forehands around groups of trees tight on your left). I recommend finding it in 177+ g GLO Z FLX for best results. If not that then ESP over Z all day. BTW any putters or mids in FLX plastic will quickly beat in then stay the same from that point on due to the way it absorbs impact (i.e. trees, chains, curbs, etc.) vs. more stiff plastic. Good luck with the coming season.
No Meteor? You should definitely check a Z Meteor out! Beautiful left to right (rhbh) with a little pan to fade when it slows down, plus it's a hyzer flip machine especially in the woods!
When I was throwing Discraft I was a big fan of the Cryztal meteors. They had a bit more stability then their z and esp counterparts. I could put it on a bit of a hyzer and it would either fly dead straight or have a gentle turn but it wouldn't turn and burn.
First Discraft disc I bought years ago was a Limited Edition Cryztal Flx Buzz in the neon green color. It's smooth texture works great for skipping off of wet grass. And it's great for making sharp hyzer shots around trees. It's deep rim is also flick friendly making it great for control shots. It putts well, as well.
Throwing that ESP Buzzz on a frozen rope! I like the full hive, myself: BuzzzSS, Buzzz, & BuzzzOS. All the mids i need, all with a familiar feel in the hand.
Esp-flx is awesome! I think tehy ran out of the material used for the old esp, so they couldnt make it anymore. And they had Z-flx out at that point, replacing it. I like Z-flx too, but i loved Esp-flx more :D It had just the right flex and a suuuuper grip to go with it!
Man. Yeah. I cycled flat DX Glow Rocs for the longest time, but the ESP FLX Buzzz ended up stealing the "beat-in Roc" spot while I had it. (May it rest in peace...wherever it ended up when a cousin-in-law hucked it into some really deep bramble...) It flew like a turbo Comet for me. If they brought back that plastic, my bag would have another Discraft mold in it for sure.
Try out the Archer. I’ve only thrown a Big Z version, and it is understable. I learned to throw it with a hyper flip and it has a really unique flight that way, with a lot of glide for a surprising distance. I think it’s classified as a driver, but it has the feel of a midrange disc. If you get the hang of the Comet or even the Meteor, the Archer feels very similar to those discs in the hand. My favorite midrange disc from Discraft is still the Buzzz, while I am getting more used to the Buzzz SS and more recently working in the Buzzz OS. After seeing this showcase with Paul, I’m eager to try out the Drone and Wasp!
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Awesome video. I found it very interesting the understable flight he's starting to get out of that jawbreaker wasp . I have a jawbreaker buzzz that has that straight flight and a right finish.
I have a variety of drivers from different manufacturers, but midrange and below is all DC. I pack a buzzz OS, 2 buzzzes at different weights and plastics and a buzzz SS. I also have probably 10 jawbreaker challengers. 173’s for my putting discs and 175’s for windy days. SS for playing in the woods up shots and OS for driving. I have never felt a more comfortable putter than the challenger. Slightly overstable. Very predictable and jawbreaker plastic gives you amazing grip without sacrificing the predictability. I absolutely love Discraft in my shorter game.
I have the Z Drone. I use if for my approach shots when I need to put a little power on it but I don't want it to go past the basket or on those south Texas days when we have that slight 20 mph breeze.
If you like the Buzzz, you'll love the EMac Truth! 😁 For me, the FLX Drone and ESP Zone is a really nice OS combo. Those plastics are incredibly comfortable in all conditions.
This video could pass has a decent crash course in stability and hyzer. I'm in my first year of playing and I've learned this stuff, but I wish I had seen a video like this sooner, it does a better job demonstrating those concepts than some of the videos I've seen dedicated to that purpose.
From my experience, the Comet is a lot like a longer range Nova. When I threw it a few years back, i threw the same shot shapes i do with my Nova. Its key to put some hyzer on all releases (besides an-hyzers). Love to see all the changes to your game and what the future holds for you. Cheers Paul!!!
I think the Meteor is an interesting disc Paul McBeth if you like the beaded discs. Meteor is like the SS Buzz but broken in just a tad to fly more understable. Meteor comes in ESP and Z plastic for its Production runs. THE X plastic Comet is also money especially the domed versions for a slower short short midrange to very long approach shot one would not want to putt off of.
One of my favorite Discraft discs is the Glide. I believe it falls between a midrange and fairway driver. Somewhat under stable, but a very "floaty" disc than can soar straight and far without having to rip on it.
Paul, you should really check out Ledgestone 2015 ESP Wasps. I have a stack of them, my favorite midrange ever. Nice and flat, overstable with some decent glide.
Love the vids and super helpful since I have not really thrown Discraft all that much. Would be really awesome if you guys could do this with each top pro from every manufacturer so we can truly see how the discs are supposed to fly. Anyways great content as always and can't wait for this season to start!!!
Definitely try out the Meteor. It’s under stable so it’ll hold ani lines really well but at the same time really isn’t that flippy and has great glide. At least in my experience, it doesn’t really flip it just has a late slow turn that is great for woods shots or it can hold any line if you power it down.
ESP Hornet, hard to find in the ESP plastic, I’m still using my ace race version. Good hyzer backhand or forehand, smooth hyzer with a lot of glide and swing.
this is really great. Paul is such a great forehanded, it would be cool to hear about forehand considerations too. I know at the intermediate level, lots of us have forehand specific discs (flat-top, over stable). maybe not the same for pros, but still, it'd be cool to hear about forehands.
Paul you need to try the 2015 ledgestone edition titanium buzzz..very stable with great grip and it feels fast out of the hand..in between esp and the Nate doss as far as stability
Worth the wait! I hope we get Paul’s thoughts on the Luna Proto vs Mcpro’s next week, as well as an in-depth look at the Luna itself. My money is on a Z Flx Zone also making his bag, and my wildcard is a Soft or Pro-D Magnet.
Not for my noodle arm. Buzz SS goes straight with a slight fade at the end for me. I am able to get a little turn out of my Comet and it can hold an anney if I start it turned over.
I'm one of the few, buzzz gt over the buzzz ss and the comet. I'll lend you my first run gt next time your in Wixom. Its a solid utility mid and also true to any line if you can handle the feel.
Give the stratus x a try. I've been throwing it for about 20 years, I can't buy enough of these because I keep giving them away! Great roller and anhyzer flight as well as perfectly straight if you so choose. Would be curious to see one in an esp plastic...
Yes, they had others in the past like first grippy all weather plastic that is as tough as the Z or Champion being ESP but that was well over 10 years ago.
I love the Wasp,Buzzz, and Buzzz SS. I lost my Wasp and replaced it with Moonshine EMAC Truth, though. I will never give up the SS, it's an old Emac SS and it is the perfect woods and turnover disc.
There has never been so much hype around what mid ranges a guy is testing out ever!!!!
It's off season. We're all indoors smelling our own farts.
Uh I would say no, they made the Buzz specifically for Nate Doss and thanks to that the Wasp is only in Z for Production Runs. Also they made for Ricky the Compass in the offseason as the Latude 64 made brands did not have much for midrange discs but that was a disc just like a low to no dome Wasp in lesser plastics but more variety of plastics for full production runs.
Dean Mclean that’s because it Paul McBeast
It's funny. Guess what mid ranges Paul will throw? The mid ranges that Discraft has.
Totally worth it to see him throw them and comment. But there is no choice.
No Roc and no Nova. This is going to be an interesting year.
I'd say he will go Wasp and Buzzz, then Drone for Utility when he can't use a Zone.
Thank you @jomezproductions for creating such amazing opportunities for the community. I’m super excited and I know everyone else is, much love!
Love the incredibly smooth sidebars and details that go along with this video. Made it simple and easy to watch without having to pause to search stats on these discs...
Pretty good video for having no script. Paul is a true PRO!
I love the Meteor. It holds whatever line you throw it on.
Love the shout out for MJ with the comet.
Man, my mid range game is soooo weak. Thanks jomez, discraft and McBeth for this series. So much anticipation for the next. Can't wait to see 2019s season for both McBeth and Jomez. So many changes but can't wait to see it all unfold!
Was pretty good season
@jomezpro any way we can get bloopers from this? I love Paul, but he's human and I'm sure he didn't do this all in one take. Think it'd be funny and cool to see kind of a behind the scenes making of this vid
That’s very bold of you to assume he’s human
He smoked that tree with the comet upshot. I'm pretty sure they did just use one take or they probably wouldn't have kept that in
@@calvinc3115 the esp comet hit the tree?
Edit: nvm I saw it
@@calvinc3115Cal?!
that ESP BUZZZ reminds me of a ROC flight, think that's why he likes it so much. As always Jomez, great job!
So happy!! Thanks Paul and Jomez!
Is this the same guy I saw years ago in the glorious vid explaining his beginnings... how he was shy and took to disc golf... he was shy and yet so authentic in that video that I became an ardent fan of his. So much of a fan that I have watched the "best round ever?" video in which he shot minus 18 on course that is right behind my house somehow thinking it is special when it is just me being selfish to see the best ever throw one of his best on a home course of mine like a hundred times. The cat in the video is so polished, so, oh "professional". My has he matured. Oh I adore the "real" guy of the past. Equally delighted to see the maturation and development and so, so, so hope guys like this are getting paid for the sacrifices they made to get to this type of a pinnacle.
I am not a pro, but as an intermediate rec player, I have always loved the Buzzz backhanded for in the woods straight shots, annies, and moderate hyzers. Other than the Stalker and hyzerflipped Heat, it is super straight out to 290-310 FT. I love the Buzzz OS for forehand straight shots and FH or BH flex lines. Because, as a rec player, I get in jams ALL THE TIME LOL, I also love the Buzzzes for reverse-curl bicep rollers back out onto the fairway. Good Luck to you, Paul! And, thank you, Jomez for bringing us cool coverage on disc-testing/bag-building from a pro! Great stuff!
I just love that you guys announce when you are gonna upload the next episode and I can trust that you keep your word. Very professional!
Paul's learning the BUZZINESS now boys.
Always a fan of your graphic work JOMEZ!
Yes thank you @jomezproductions for creating such amazing videos for the community. Whole new level of quality and hugely excited for 2019.
To bad there will not be any pro tour filmed by Jomez. PDGA is filming all tournaments know....
Hope they have some good commentary....
My mids are z-buzz, glow meteor and dga tremor in 1st flight plastic. All these discs glide so well for my power. Thanks Paul
Great job Jomez. Always the best. Paul throw a 180g ESP Meteor
Love that he toes his discs to get them up, for all the discers who think it alters them
Good video. Liked it that Paul threw both open and technical/woods shots with the discs. Excellent filming by Jomez, as always. Thanks for bringing this to us.
My favorite Discraft midrange? First-run Z-Buzzz, for sure. I still have three of them; 1 thrower, and two pristine!
I have been throwing (almost) exclusively Discraft for the last 8 years now and at the same time have watched (nearly) all of your rounds that have been uploaded to TH-cam. Due to the countless amount of time that I have spent on these now "colliding" subjects I hope that my following two cents will make sense to you.
So, you picked some great stable mids (Buzzz/OS/ss & Wasp) and you will have fun with the Drone for utility shots and (heavy) wind. That being said I have several mold recommendations that you may want to consider for comparison.
First, the Hornet is similar to the Wasp/Buzzz OS for the first 70-80% of its flight but finishes with much more 'glide' and therefore far less 'low speed fade.' This unique characteristic increases its effective range by about 10-15% over the Wasp/Buzzz OS. The shot that I often see you throw between 300 and 350 feet is a power hyzer playing for a strait skip off the left edge. The hole that comes to mind is number 8 at DeLaveaga OG. I think that you would opt for the Wasp off the tee looking for the play off the 'R to L' slope but as it begins to lose its glide and fade left it will tend to either anti-skip too far right or skip left OB (probably between the logs). The Hornet will retain more glide throughout its flight and tend to only expose just enough rim to continue strait after the skip. Also it has no bead, low profile and clean feeling inner rim. I recommend finding it in ESP between 170-172 g for best results.
Second, the Meteor is comparable to the Comet in that they both are high glide understable mids but the meteor will 'flip' much slower throughout its flight. This results in the Meteor having a naturally late turnover which is useful for long continuous annies or low ceiling tunnel shots. Comets tend to have a large 'high speed turn' so that in the first 50-60 feet it covers nearly all of its intended turn. After the initial 'flip' it quickly stabilizes to its natural flight by continuing to annie on a somewhat direct path. This results in the comet being angle sensitive and in my own opinion a bit "squirrely." With the Meteor's more gradual turn that is 'rounded-out' flight I believe that you will find it to be less touchy and more forgiving in the woods vs. the Comet. It also has a low profile, soft edges, and is fantastic for forehand touch shots (especially high annie forehands around groups of trees tight on your left). I recommend finding it in 177+ g GLO Z FLX for best results. If not that then ESP over Z all day.
BTW any putters or mids in FLX plastic will quickly beat in then stay the same from that point on due to the way it absorbs impact (i.e. trees, chains, curbs, etc.) vs. more stiff plastic. Good luck with the coming season.
Very well done. Thank you both Jomez and Paul for doing this!
I only have one disc from Discraft in the bag. A Z Buzzz. Love it. Nice feel and straight flight.
This was a really smart idea. It's one big discraft commercial. But I've been eagerly waiting for this video since the drivers.
Meteor is by far my favorite mid!
Titanium Buzzz is my go to disc. I had six throw ins this year with it.
No Meteor? You should definitely check a Z Meteor out! Beautiful left to right (rhbh) with a little pan to fade when it slows down, plus it's a hyzer flip machine especially in the woods!
I carry 2! ESP and Z
I had one of my friend's meteors in my bag but had to give it back. It is a good midrange for ani
When I was throwing Discraft I was a big fan of the Cryztal meteors. They had a bit more stability then their z and esp counterparts. I could put it on a bit of a hyzer and it would either fly dead straight or have a gentle turn but it wouldn't turn and burn.
First Discraft disc I bought years ago was a Limited Edition Cryztal Flx Buzz in the neon green color. It's smooth texture works great for skipping off of wet grass. And it's great for making sharp hyzer shots around trees. It's deep rim is also flick friendly making it great for control shots. It putts well, as well.
Gotta be forehanding the Buzzz OS and Drone; you’ll see new ways they shine.
Throwing that ESP Buzzz on a frozen rope! I like the full hive, myself: BuzzzSS, Buzzz, & BuzzzOS. All the mids i need, all with a familiar feel in the hand.
@6:00 cracking knuckles = serious business! LOL
Keep up the Good work guys!
Meteor and glide for faster comet shots + utility +rollers
My favourite one is the Buzzz ESP FLX, shame they don't make that esp flx plastic anymore. :/ It has nice grip, especially for winter season.
Esp-flx is awesome! I think tehy ran out of the material used for the old esp, so they couldnt make it anymore. And they had Z-flx out at that point, replacing it. I like Z-flx too, but i loved Esp-flx more :D It had just the right flex and a suuuuper grip to go with it!
Man. Yeah. I cycled flat DX Glow Rocs for the longest time, but the ESP FLX Buzzz ended up stealing the "beat-in Roc" spot while I had it. (May it rest in peace...wherever it ended up when a cousin-in-law hucked it into some really deep bramble...) It flew like a turbo Comet for me. If they brought back that plastic, my bag would have another Discraft mold in it for sure.
Love me some Turner Park, definitely in my top 3 in the DFW area.
Anxiously awaiting the 2019 season and what Paul can do with a whole new bag.
I just can't wait to see his first competition...!! These test throws in a field are one thing, but I want to see how he uses Discraft for real 😃😃👍
Try out the Archer. I’ve only thrown a Big Z version, and it is understable. I learned to throw it with a hyper flip and it has a really unique flight that way, with a lot of glide for a surprising distance. I think it’s classified as a driver, but it has the feel of a midrange disc. If you get the hang of the Comet or even the Meteor, the Archer feels very similar to those discs in the hand. My favorite midrange disc from Discraft is still the Buzzz, while I am getting more used to the Buzzz SS and more recently working in the Buzzz OS. After seeing this showcase with Paul, I’m eager to try out the Drone and Wasp!
Opening up the possibilities with building my bag. Thanks!
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Yes!! What we've all been waiting for. Thank you @jomezpro
Just got home from playing that course (Turner) , got some deja vu watching this.
Ron Russel played in our town for a while. I've witnessed him throw a beat in Comet 400+ str8 as a die!
I roll with the esp comet and esp zone currently. Comet is so big it flies like an ultimate disc.
Awesome video. I found it very interesting the understable flight he's starting to get out of that jawbreaker wasp . I have a jawbreaker buzzz that has that straight flight and a right finish.
Hey Paul, great video! Next time can you include weight of the discs? Thanks!
jawbreaker wasps ftw!! Definitely not what I'd consider understable but sooo perfect and straight for me!
Hype hype hype!!! Let’s go discraft 2019!!!!
4x Pmb esp buzzz is my favorite buzzz.
The admiral in semmes alabama is the woods. Also the 100th houck design course.
I have a variety of drivers from different manufacturers, but midrange and below is all DC. I pack a buzzz OS, 2 buzzzes at different weights and plastics and a buzzz SS. I also have probably 10 jawbreaker challengers. 173’s for my putting discs and 175’s for windy days. SS for playing in the woods up shots and OS for driving. I have never felt a more comfortable putter than the challenger. Slightly overstable. Very predictable and jawbreaker plastic gives you amazing grip without sacrificing the predictability. I absolutely love Discraft in my shorter game.
Great video, great coverage! Can’t wait to purchase the Discraft Buzzz ESP! Thanks Jomez, and thanks to Paul Macbeth! I salute you both!
Paul try out the Meteor...real close to the Comet. I love my BigZ Comet and still trying my Z Meteor
I've heard a lot of good things about the Meteor.
meteor is a comet with a less awful rim
He said the comet is a bit touchy for him, I love my meteor but I don't think it would be pauls disc.
Less stable than the Comet?
@@jaketheglutenphreakharris6620 What's the difference in rims?
I have the Z Drone. I use if for my approach shots when I need to put a little power on it but I don't want it to go past the basket or on those south Texas days when we have that slight 20 mph breeze.
Paul was seemingly the most natural I've seen him talking to a camera. Good job
If you like the Buzzz, you'll love the EMac Truth! 😁
For me, the FLX Drone and ESP Zone is a really nice OS combo. Those plastics are incredibly comfortable in all conditions.
Would like to see Paul throw a Stalker. Would also love to see McBeth do more technical videos with Discraft and really breakdown his techniques.
This video could pass has a decent crash course in stability and hyzer. I'm in my first year of playing and I've learned this stuff, but I wish I had seen a video like this sooner, it does a better job demonstrating those concepts than some of the videos I've seen dedicated to that purpose.
Can’t wait to see what Mcbeth has in the bag
The Buzzz OS is my favorite disc to throw forehand I use it more than any other disc I own!
CANT WAAAAIT... for next season!!
jomez changing the game
I like the crystal Z Buzz it's super straight and it is
From my experience, the Comet is a lot like a longer range Nova. When I threw it a few years back, i threw the same shot shapes i do with my Nova. Its key to put some hyzer on all releases (besides an-hyzers). Love to see all the changes to your game and what the future holds for you. Cheers Paul!!!
Hornet is a very good overstable mid. I love the Hornet and Wasp.
I love my Buzz and recently just started using my BigZ Comet which has been spectacular.
Esp meteors! Favorite stock mid from discraft! Seriously TRY THEM!
I think the Meteor is an interesting disc Paul McBeth if you like the beaded discs. Meteor is like the SS Buzz but broken in just a tad to fly more understable. Meteor comes in ESP and Z plastic for its Production runs. THE X plastic Comet is also money especially the domed versions for a slower short short midrange to very long approach shot one would not want to putt off of.
One of my favorite Discraft discs is the Glide. I believe it falls between a midrange and fairway driver. Somewhat under stable, but a very "floaty" disc than can soar straight and far without having to rip on it.
Paul, you should really check out Ledgestone 2015 ESP Wasps. I have a stack of them, my favorite midrange ever. Nice and flat, overstable with some decent glide.
Discraft has got be to loving these promo videos. I hope they are compensating Jomez a few bucks
I love this course!
Love the vids and super helpful since I have not really thrown Discraft all that much. Would be really awesome if you guys could do this with each top pro from every manufacturer so we can truly see how the discs are supposed to fly. Anyways great content as always and can't wait for this season to start!!!
Definitely try out the Meteor. It’s under stable so it’ll hold ani lines really well but at the same time really isn’t that flippy and has great glide. At least in my experience, it doesn’t really flip it just has a late slow turn that is great for woods shots or it can hold any line if you power it down.
Love this course
Meteor!!
Buzzz SS (Z) and Buzzz (Z) are my main midrange discs. Both are excellent.
Comet is my all-time fav since mj put one in my hand.. Meteor might interest you its understable but flys forever
2019 baby, let's gooo!
ESP Hornet, hard to find in the ESP plastic, I’m still using my ace race version. Good hyzer backhand or forehand, smooth hyzer with a lot of glide and swing.
Old school Discraft Storm :D Best mid they have ever made in production, second would be the Nebula!!!
It's nice to see the Buzzz OS act so overstable even in Paul's hands. Been wondering if it's just my fault that it doesn't break the hyzer at all.. 😂
I can’t wait any longer
try the meteor for them long anny shots. it's a great disc.
this is really great. Paul is such a great forehanded, it would be cool to hear about forehand considerations too. I know at the intermediate level, lots of us have forehand specific discs (flat-top, over stable). maybe not the same for pros, but still, it'd be cool to hear about forehands.
They discontinued them but I absolutely love Nebulas! It was an Ace race disc. Always on the lookout for these discs!
try the zone great disc and hope the comet makes the bag love that disc !
Paul you need to try the 2015 ledgestone edition titanium buzzz..very stable with great grip and it feels fast out of the hand..in between esp and the Nate doss as far as stability
Might like the Meteor over the Comet for that type of disc. Little less touchy.
Worth the wait!
I hope we get Paul’s thoughts on the Luna Proto vs Mcpro’s next week, as well as an in-depth look at the Luna itself. My money is on a Z Flx Zone also making his bag, and my wildcard is a Soft or Pro-D Magnet.
I bag a Comet and Buzz SS and really like both of them. Have been in my bag for over two years.
whats the difference dont they overlap?
Not for my noodle arm. Buzz SS goes straight with a slight fade at the end for me. I am able to get a little turn out of my Comet and it can hold an anney if I start it turned over.
Gotta throw the ESP METEOR!!!!! Do it Paul!!!
I only have one discraft disc in my bag but I love my big z buzz
Are you able to use DGA discs? The Quake is amazing for an overstable mid
I'm one of the few, buzzz gt over the buzzz ss and the comet. I'll lend you my first run gt next time your in Wixom. Its a solid utility mid and also true to any line if you can handle the feel.
Give the stratus x a try. I've been throwing it for about 20 years, I can't buy enough of these because I keep giving them away! Great roller and anhyzer flight as well as perfectly straight if you so choose. Would be curious to see one in an esp plastic...
This is discrafts year
Yes, they had others in the past like first grippy all weather plastic that is as tough as the Z or Champion being ESP but that was well over 10 years ago.
Z Wasp is an awesome disc, canned a fairway birdie once on a full hyzer line. Gonna have to grab one again now lol
I wanna see Paul throw the Cyclone. Its my favorite Disc by Discraft.
I never had a straight shot until i threw the Buzzz. #Future5timeChampMcbeast
@Jomezproductions Keep it coming all 2019!
I love the Wasp,Buzzz, and Buzzz SS. I lost my Wasp and replaced it with Moonshine EMAC Truth, though. I will never give up the SS, it's an old Emac SS and it is the perfect woods and turnover disc.
I like Discraft, but all my mids are Prodigy. Ty for the demo Paul and Jomez.