Only air defence system that has actually proved itself successful in combat is the British sea dart. It protected US ships from anti ship missiles while phalanx was busy shooting the ship it was supposed to protect.
@@johnmknox Hello from 2022. Hypersonic missile "Kinzhal" were successfully used in the fight against a deep bunker in Ukraine. A rocket flying in a cloud of plasma at a speed of 4 kilometers per second cannot be stopped.
Oh ya, the Vulcan that detects friendly aircraft as enemies and is useless against Drones and Jets. Also your part about the RIM-116 is completely wrong, you not only show a SeaRAM at a point, but you say it is Supported by a Gatling Gun, which makes absolutely no sense
@SubtoPolecat324 hitting a modern jet with this is nearly impossible. Also, i want Talking about CIWS in general but about the Vulcan version of the states
The Phalanx doesn't identify friendly aircraft as enemies, it has to pass a variety of target classification tests including IFFing of the target until it can fire. The Phalanx is meant for direct defense, and although it can perform area defense its purpose is not to take down drones and jets that are not flying directly at the ship, it is meant for small manuvering targets that are propelling themselves in the direction of the ship. In the RIM-116 section, he is right, the SeaRAM is rim-116 but with a Phalanx radar on it and he even says that (did you watch the video?), and when he says it is supported by a gatling gun he is referring to the fact that the FCS (fire control system) is the same system for both the rim-116 and phalanx (of which has a gatling gun), meaning they work together.
I would like see how two other systems stack up in the ratings rheinmetall oerlikon millennium gun with AHEAD ammunition & The OTO Melara Super Rapido 76 mm gun with Strales System with its DART guided ammunition
It doesn't seem as RM Oerlikon Millenium is used in a lot of armies. Which is surprising, if claims of it's characteristics are true. Seems like, the characteristics doesn't look as good as claimed for other countries, as and they found a lot of underwater rockss and issues with it. Otherwise i see no reason why it's not in UK, France, Italy, even NATIVE GERMAN army! Something must be wrong there mate. I have some assumptions about it, but whatevs, i'm really not in a mood for trying to disprove anything 😴
@@Matze239 exactly. Denmark, Venezuela, Indonesia. Which also use russian coastal armaments at the same time. I may be wrong, but if system would be so good, it would be much more widespread. So far it looks exactly opposite - noone bothers getting those apart few experiment countries 🤷♂️
@@jdaniels4898 the system with all its accessories is still relatively new and, since it's Rheinmetall, probably quite expensive I'm sure it has outstanding performance and capabilities as it's always the case with Rheinmetall, but there's probably cheaper options out there Cheaper, not better, but good enough I suppose
Phalanx holds 1,550 rounds which is enough for 20-30 seconds of fire. That is enough to engage several threats. Given that those threats would first have to pass through other layers of defense, that is likely enough for anything but saturation attacks, which are logistically very difficult for an enemy to pull off.
10,000 rounds per minute, that's around 167r,ps, that's crazy, a 5 second burst is enough to bring anything down if object is hit in the Right places, some maybe even brought down even quicker.
theres a video where a single mounted version AK-630 is fired at some somali pirate ship, after 2 short bursts it blows up in flames and gets completely shredded.
I think u should have put the goalkeeper above the Pahalnx because its has been proven to be more accurate and more deadly, the radar is also made to say alive while other parts on the ship are damaged while the Phalanx relies a lot on the ships systems.
You have that the wrong way around. Phalanx is a completely stand alone system with it’s own radar and requires zero deck penetration, just a power connection. Goalkeeper on the other hand penetrates several decks and needs a large coolant system, consisting of several large cabinets.
CIWS do not need accuracy, accuracy for AAA is bad, they send swarm of shells in enemy direction and maybe some of them hit it, at least how it made in russia
@@davidstephen2015 Goalkeeper is mostly seen as better because of the 30mm over 20mm, mnore destructive round. Though tere are more variables of course.
The ideal anti-missile/air system, first off has to have a great search and tracking radar system. Assuming that, the ideal would be a weapons mix requiring a threat to pass through multiple different systems at differing ranges. First of these would be the longest range and most capable SM-6 missle which would primarily be kept in reserve for ABM and hypersonic threats. Then you'd have SM-2 missiles for engaging missiles and aircraft out to 90 miles. Anything getting past that first envelope would then have to make it past ESSM missiles at 30 miles that are carried four to a VLS tube. Beyond that threats would at 6 miles have to break past the Rolling Airframe Missiles. Finally anything making it past that would have to deal with either a 76mm gun with DART ammo or 57mm with ORCA ammo and finally some sort of CIWS gun system. Any missile that could make it past all of that probably 'deserves' to hit it's target.
Boys, these ain't nothing on the Irish Defence Forces' navy tech: they've got just 8 small ships, each less than 2,000 tonnes. Standard arnaments include phaser arrays, rail guns, quantum topedoes, cloaking devices. There are few navies, such as the RN with which this technology is shared.
No one has a secret radar that's better then US Aegis system with Spy-6 coming out this year its 4 times more powerful then spy1 and 8 times as strong as S-400 search radar which is supposed to be the most powerful Sam system radar, the THAAD radar is strictly BALLISTIC able to have a 2800km range detection range while S-400 has a 700km search radar for BALLISTIC deense.
Thales pronounced Tar-lez. Rent Enjoyed the video, I especially enjoyed your style of narration, very good and very professional sounding, perfectly punctuated script.
Are the phalanx guns always on because I could see someone in a small civilian aircraft flying close to a battleship or aircraft carrier near the coast just to get a better look and be cool or whatever and accidentally get shot down by the Terminator like sea wiz Phalanx cannons it automatically Target tracks and engages making a Killa valuation assessment on its own
Anything on this list that's Soviet/Russian will have performance characteristics that are questionable as we have seen in the Ukraine how their systems generally are overrated.
Russian problems in the Ukraine actually have little to do with the quality of the equipment, but that's an easy thing to point fingers at which requires little thinking.
In light of the abysmal performance of Russian shipboard systems in the Ukraine War, some adjustment is needed with this video. Another question arises about the Pantsir system performance in Syria against Israeli missiles and aircraft.
"Russian naval air defense systems, you can count on them"..... - The Russian advertising slogan from weapon expo in Dubai. Russian advertising slogan post Moskva sinking.... "Russian naval air defense systems - turning your flagships into submarines"...
Idenpendet Turkish defence industry was planned back in the 90's but was really slow due to American controlled NATO gladiators embedded in the Navy,The gladiators also did the same to the American Navy back in 1945's The Ellite always start from the Navy,however Erdogan speeded up things by calling people back to Turkey who were working on their own projects in America like skunk works etc.They tried a coup but failed even throwing in Iraq & Syria to destabilize Turkey,They don't want Turkey to own the med sea !!
Goalkeeper has been declared obsolete by the Dutch Navy and is scheduled to be withdrawn from service over the next few years. Phalanx is now used in the USN primarily as an anti-surface weapon. Like most of these lists, this one is useless.
any CIWS be it the Pantsir-M or the Phalanx, all CIWS should feature triple 30 MM GAU-8/A rapid fire rotary cannon!!! even the 23 MM GSh-6-23 on the Pantsir-M for that matter!!! if I'm correct the RIM-116 is a fire-&-forget SAM, it's not an anti-ship missile (as stated in this video)!!!
Wrong. Russian Kashtan (Kortik) is number 2. It is much more powerful than the Phalanx. I the Kashtan was rated number 1 for years before the Pantir came on stream. Besides, just look at the secs. It speaks for itself.
Based on what? It doesn't have a better range than say Goldkeeper or Phalanx... Rheinmetall GDM-008 has almost double the range of the type1130, and Bofors 40 mm and 57 mm guns are even longer range (with more effective ammo). And that is before we look at the OTO Melara 76 mm gun... I am sure that the type1130 is a good system, but to claim it is the best CIWS is a bit out there.
Wrong, the best Air Defence systems of all are LR systems that take out the launch Platforms long before they get within range of launching AShM. CIWS are a hail Mary system at best and with the latest Hypersonic Missiles you could blow up the Missile but still suffer extensive damage due to being hit by debris.
Well the goalkeeper is the grand daddy of the CIWS and it’s gone be fased out on the new ships. The Dutch are working on a new AI based system. On the new Dutch, Belgian and also German ships this AI will have control over the ships weapons and electronic warfare system. For the Dutch ships the weapon systems it will be directing include; - 64 ESSM block 2 - 21 RAM RIM-116 - 2 secondary 40mm cannons - The main 76mm cannon with DART guided ammunition. For the Belgians - 32 ESSM block 2 - 21 RAM RIM-116 - 1 secondary 40mm cannon - The main 76mm cannon with DART guided ammunition. For the Germans 64 ESSM block 2 and 42 RAM RIM-116.
the 20 MM Phalanx CIWS (Block 60) should be paired with the RIM-116 SeaRAM, similar to the Pantsir-ME CIWS!!! secondly the 20 MM M61 Vulcan in the Phalanx CIWS seriously needs to be replaced with a navalized version of the 30 MM GAU-23/A rapid fire rotary gun!!!
If’s your enemy need to destroy the war ships they will shelling 100 missile per ship how can you stop, this tactic of war, per war must puts missile defense around its
This is not fair. There should be one or two PLAN's weapon system such as H/PJ11-30-11(11 barrelled 30mm CIWS) or FL-3000N self-defencse missile weapon system.
This guy has a lot of faith in stickered claims on systems being true and them actually functioning… both things russian systems are not well known for
Only air defence system that has actually proved itself successful in combat is the British sea dart.
It protected US ships from anti ship missiles while phalanx was busy shooting the ship it was supposed to protect.
yeah i remember that, the uss Missouri shot its chaff up and the phalanx locked onto it, rip
It was a slow first generation cruise missile tbh
0:37 the f-18 attacks the ship with a aim-9 ! Good luck !
Which has the same sensors as the RAM though cause they are both developed by Diehl :D
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Kinzhal and Zircon dismissed all existing naval air defence systems)
If you believe Putin propaganda they do.
@@johnmknox Unfortunately for you, there are no means of defense against a Zircon hypersonic missile. The test launches are successful.
I agree
@@johnmknox Hello from 2022.
Hypersonic missile "Kinzhal" were successfully used in the fight against a deep bunker in Ukraine.
A rocket flying in a cloud of plasma at a speed of 4 kilometers per second cannot be stopped.
Oh ya, the Vulcan that detects friendly aircraft as enemies and is useless against Drones and Jets. Also your part about the RIM-116 is completely wrong, you not only show a SeaRAM at a point, but you say it is Supported by a Gatling Gun, which makes absolutely no sense
@SubtoPolecat324 hitting a modern jet with this is nearly impossible. Also, i want Talking about CIWS in general but about the Vulcan version of the states
@@gamm8939 no it's not
@@gamm8939 it's literally easier for the gun To shoot a big subsonic jet compared to a small mach 2 missile thats changing direction fast.
The Phalanx doesn't identify friendly aircraft as enemies, it has to pass a variety of target classification tests including IFFing of the target until it can fire. The Phalanx is meant for direct defense, and although it can perform area defense its purpose is not to take down drones and jets that are not flying directly at the ship, it is meant for small manuvering targets that are propelling themselves in the direction of the ship. In the RIM-116 section, he is right, the SeaRAM is rim-116 but with a Phalanx radar on it and he even says that (did you watch the video?), and when he says it is supported by a gatling gun he is referring to the fact that the FCS (fire control system) is the same system for both the rim-116 and phalanx (of which has a gatling gun), meaning they work together.
Best video
I would like see how two other systems stack up in the ratings rheinmetall oerlikon millennium gun with AHEAD ammunition & The OTO Melara Super Rapido 76 mm gun with Strales System with its DART guided ammunition
Rheinmetall oerlikon or "mantis" as it's called in our armed forces is epic
It doesn't seem as RM Oerlikon Millenium is used in a lot of armies. Which is surprising, if claims of it's characteristics are true. Seems like, the characteristics doesn't look as good as claimed for other countries, as and they found a lot of underwater rockss and issues with it. Otherwise i see no reason why it's not in UK, France, Italy, even NATIVE GERMAN army! Something must be wrong there mate. I have some assumptions about it, but whatevs, i'm really not in a mood for trying to disprove anything 😴
@@jdaniels4898 The Millenium Gun is used by Denmark, Indonesia, Venezuela and Finland
The Land based Skyshield System is used by several nations too
@@Matze239 exactly. Denmark, Venezuela, Indonesia. Which also use russian coastal armaments at the same time. I may be wrong, but if system would be so good, it would be much more widespread. So far it looks exactly opposite - noone bothers getting those apart few experiment countries 🤷♂️
@@jdaniels4898 the system with all its accessories is still relatively new and, since it's Rheinmetall, probably quite expensive
I'm sure it has outstanding performance and capabilities as it's always the case with Rheinmetall, but there's probably cheaper options out there
Cheaper, not better, but good enough I suppose
Lol Pantsir-Me as no 1 😂
Did they guy show a Russian Corvette and said its a Type 23 and when he said Type 26 that image showed a Chinese destroyer???
yes, he also showed a SeaRAM while talking about the RIM-116 and said some shit about it being supported by a Vulcan
Suggestion episode. Logistics and quality of feeding the different armed services.
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A video on Anti ship missile ??SIR please!!
Ya we need this video??
If it can beat Arjun its no problem
Here's th-cam.com/video/2OD5w0k-H_0/w-d-xo.html
is the weakness of the phalanx the fact that it only holds 900 shells and runs empty very quickly??
Phalanx holds 1,550 rounds which is enough for 20-30 seconds of fire. That is enough to engage several threats. Given that those threats would first have to pass through other layers of defense, that is likely enough for anything but saturation attacks, which are logistically very difficult for an enemy to pull off.
Lasers, freaking lasers.
Yeah
10,000 rounds per minute, that's around 167r,ps, that's crazy, a 5 second burst is enough to bring anything down if object is hit in the Right places, some maybe even brought down even quicker.
it made to send cloud of shells towards target
@@tsugumorihoney2288 Seriously, I hope this thing never has to prove itself against NATO or chinese anti ship systems
theres a video where a single mounted version AK-630 is fired at some somali pirate ship, after 2 short bursts it blows up in flames and gets completely shredded.
I think u should have put the goalkeeper above the Pahalnx because its has been proven to be more accurate and more deadly, the radar is also made to say alive while other parts on the ship are damaged while the Phalanx relies a lot on the ships systems.
You have that the wrong way around. Phalanx is a completely stand alone system with it’s own radar and requires zero deck penetration, just a power connection. Goalkeeper on the other hand penetrates several decks and needs a large coolant system, consisting of several large cabinets.
CIWS do not need accuracy, accuracy for AAA is bad, they send swarm of shells in enemy direction and maybe some of them hit it, at least how it made in russia
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Goalkeeper is mostly seen as better because of the 30mm over 20mm, mnore destructive round. Though tere are more variables of course.
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1:20 ..may be ..gsh 6-30
Imagine putting dual cannons on a aircraft
The Goalkeeper has proven to be the best.
Proven?
The ideal anti-missile/air system, first off has to have a great search and tracking radar system. Assuming that, the ideal would be a weapons mix requiring a threat to pass through multiple different systems at differing ranges.
First of these would be the longest range and most capable SM-6 missle which would primarily be kept in reserve for ABM and hypersonic threats. Then you'd have SM-2 missiles for engaging missiles and aircraft out to 90 miles. Anything getting past that first envelope would then have to make it past ESSM missiles at 30 miles that are carried four to a VLS tube. Beyond that threats would at 6 miles have to break past the Rolling Airframe Missiles. Finally anything making it past that would have to deal with either a 76mm gun with DART ammo or 57mm with ORCA ammo and finally some sort of CIWS gun system.
Any missile that could make it past all of that probably 'deserves' to hit it's target.
Boys, these ain't nothing on the Irish Defence Forces' navy tech: they've got just 8 small ships, each less than 2,000 tonnes. Standard arnaments include phaser arrays, rail guns, quantum topedoes, cloaking devices. There are few navies, such as the RN with which this technology is shared.
Mmmm...🤔
Irish navy shares their weapons with the English? I never thought something like that would happen.
@@RR-us2kp Yes. Part of the mutual assistance agreement. They patrol out skies, we shared our technology.
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How do they reload the missles it only have 4 missles do theh reload it manually?
Back at port. Using a crane.
I would like to see vedios about Stealth Radar to detect and captured stealth aircraft. Please find the next vedios about above topic. thanks buddy 😊
No one has a secret radar that's better then US Aegis system with Spy-6 coming out this year its 4 times more powerful then spy1 and 8 times as strong as S-400 search radar which is supposed to be the most powerful Sam system radar, the THAAD radar is strictly BALLISTIC able to have a 2800km range detection range while S-400 has a 700km search radar for BALLISTIC deense.
I love the RIM-116 RAM
Thales pronounced Tar-lez.
Rent Enjoyed the video, I especially enjoyed your style of narration, very good and very professional sounding, perfectly punctuated script.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The numbering needs revision, particularly number 2
what about the Sea Viper which is much better than the Sea Ceptor?
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Is Rim 116 capable to shoot down fighter jets and helicopters? Is this included in it's role?
Are the phalanx guns always on because I could see someone in a small civilian aircraft flying close to a battleship or aircraft carrier near the coast just to get a better look and be cool or whatever and accidentally get shot down by the Terminator like sea wiz Phalanx cannons it automatically Target tracks and engages making a Killa valuation assessment on its own
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Anything on this list that's Soviet/Russian will have performance characteristics that are questionable as we have seen in the Ukraine how their systems generally are overrated.
Russian problems in the Ukraine actually have little to do with the quality of the equipment, but that's an easy thing to point fingers at which requires little thinking.
Top 20 frigates in the world
Fl_3000 is best for frigate 😊😊😊😊
So how would a modern day naval battle look like if missiles don´t work?
Missiles do work. No CIWS system is perfect, you would probably fire a lot of missiles at your opponent and hope that some hit
"If missiles doesn't work, just throw more missiles"
the thumbnail should have being top close range naval air defense systems.
The kashtan is overkill
Pansirt is over over over kill
In light of the abysmal performance of Russian shipboard systems in the Ukraine War, some adjustment is needed with this video. Another question arises about the Pantsir system performance in Syria against Israeli missiles and aircraft.
Isn't phalanx known for it's friendly fire incidents?
It's the American style
All of these systems are likely to be ineffective against the Tic Tac UFO ;-)
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you are missing something ( laser systems)
Wasn't it a Pansir type system protecting the Moskva?
"Russian naval air defense systems, you can count on them"..... - The Russian advertising slogan from weapon expo in Dubai.
Russian advertising slogan post Moskva sinking.... "Russian naval air defense systems - turning your flagships into submarines"...
We can all now see how Russian military equipments works in action. It’s sucks 😂
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Do basically you can install any of these system into any ship.
Sky Shied anti-air defense is impeccable. However, it did not mention in your video.
Chinese CWIS 1130 can fire over 10k per minute.
Diehl defence is pronounced like "deal" not dial
the Channel isnt particularly known for there pronunciation or grammar
How in the hell would the 20mm phalanx with no secondary weapon out rate the 30mm kashtan with 8 surface to air/surface to surface missiles?
Idenpendet Turkish defence industry was planned back in the 90's but was really slow due to American controlled NATO gladiators embedded in the Navy,The gladiators also did the same to the American Navy back in 1945's The Ellite always start from the Navy,however Erdogan speeded up things by calling people back to Turkey who were working on their own projects in America like skunk works etc.They tried a coup but failed even throwing in Iraq & Syria to destabilize Turkey,They don't want Turkey to own the med sea !!
Number 2 is R2D2 not Phalanx.
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Type 45 Simple answer..
Getting old. Not bad. But getting old.
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Where is laser weapon beam weapon
10000 rounds per min and
Goalkeeper has been declared obsolete by the Dutch Navy and is scheduled to be withdrawn from service over the next few years. Phalanx is now used in the USN primarily as an anti-surface weapon. Like most of these lists, this one is useless.
the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile is a surface-to-air missile not an anti ship missile as shown in this video!!! check your source!!!
any CIWS be it the Pantsir-M or the Phalanx, all CIWS should feature triple 30 MM GAU-8/A rapid fire rotary cannon!!! even the 23 MM GSh-6-23 on the Pantsir-M for that matter!!! if I'm correct the RIM-116 is a fire-&-forget SAM, it's not an anti-ship missile (as stated in this video)!!!
Anti anti ship missile.
Defense is spelled with a S, not C
the only thing that is missing from the destroyers and aircraft carriers is a laser system.😀
At present, shore-to-ship power cables are still the problem ;-)
Wrong. Russian Kashtan (Kortik) is number 2. It is much more powerful than the Phalanx.
I the Kashtan was rated number 1 for years before the Pantir came on stream. Besides, just look at the secs. It speaks for itself.
You use the pic of type1130 but it not in the list...lol. It is the best ciws.
Based on what?
It doesn't have a better range than say Goldkeeper or Phalanx... Rheinmetall GDM-008 has almost double the range of the type1130, and Bofors 40 mm and 57 mm guns are even longer range (with more effective ammo). And that is before we look at the OTO Melara 76 mm gun...
I am sure that the type1130 is a good system, but to claim it is the best CIWS is a bit out there.
I hadn't heard of aegis maybe I fast forwarded too much...
Top 5?? Is it me or is their more than 5 Top air defence systems?? I mean you say 6!! Lol
Wrong, the best Air Defence systems of all are LR systems that take out the launch Platforms long before they get within range of launching AShM. CIWS are a hail Mary system at best and with the latest Hypersonic Missiles you could blow up the Missile but still suffer extensive damage due to being hit by debris.
Дэс ис щит, бугага.
Well the goalkeeper is the grand daddy of the CIWS and it’s gone be fased out on the new ships. The Dutch are working on a new AI based system. On the new Dutch, Belgian and also German ships this AI will have control over the ships weapons and electronic warfare system.
For the Dutch ships the weapon systems it will be directing include;
- 64 ESSM block 2
- 21 RAM RIM-116
- 2 secondary 40mm cannons
- The main 76mm cannon with DART guided ammunition.
For the Belgians
- 32 ESSM block 2
- 21 RAM RIM-116
- 1 secondary 40mm cannon
- The main 76mm cannon with DART guided ammunition.
For the Germans 64 ESSM block 2 and 42 RAM RIM-116.
DCS World.
the 20 MM Phalanx CIWS (Block 60) should be paired with the RIM-116 SeaRAM, similar to the Pantsir-ME CIWS!!! secondly the 20 MM M61 Vulcan in the Phalanx CIWS seriously needs to be replaced with a navalized version of the 30 MM GAU-23/A rapid fire rotary gun!!!
Goalkeeper
If’s your enemy need to destroy the war ships they will shelling 100 missile per ship how can you stop, this tactic of war, per war must puts missile defense around its
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SOUTH AFRICAN AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM UMKHONTO IS ONE OF THE BEST!!!
It isnot african property mate
arent Umkhonto missiles, not systems?
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You need to be from Russian !!..
that's when you talking too much CA-CA !!....
GOOO .... USA in the democracia!..
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That thing at 6:08 is the Chinese Type 1130 CIWS not Goalkeeper
What about sea viper it is literally the best against planes and cruise missiles
yep much better than the CAMM
Plz make a video of JF17 thunder jet.
make a video on jf-17 block 3
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Russia navy has best CIWS in the world
phalanx cant shots down slow missiles lol
You seriously need a better grammar teacher
Why does the narrator sound like Al Gore
Russian navy is the best stronger navy in the World. I like it.
This is not fair. There should be one or two PLAN's weapon system such as H/PJ11-30-11(11 barrelled 30mm CIWS) or FL-3000N self-defencse missile weapon system.
Best produce a submarine that can travel 200 kph.... lol.
Russian navy system is the best in the world
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lol, the ships are stacked up with old weapons and catch fire all the time. You make great Aircraft tho
@@gamm8939 yea they are old weapons when the USA uses the sames weapons so since the 80 all armanet know a days are 80 armament
Well that comment aged badly now didn't it.
@@asator2746 yup lol
US 20 mm gatling gun is so outdated.
But enough for most occasions.
the Pantsir-S1M system has shown terrible weakness in libya as out of 8, 7 have been destroyed by drones and one is in the hands of the US army.
Where dud you get this data? Source please.
Is diferent Tha Pansirt that is basicly a tunguska in a truck is diferent with the improve of the kastam ciws
Is the same name but diferent desing
This guy has a lot of faith in stickered claims on systems being true and them actually functioning… both things russian systems are not well known for
The Russian ones doesn’t seem to have gone well with the recent tests of war