The Rock &Roll Hall of Fame Chooses Diversity Over Rock & Roll! 2023’s List o Inductees!
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- The Rock &Roll Hall of Fame Chooses Diversity Over Rock & Roll! 2023’s List o Inductees!
Hey everyone!
In tonight’s video I go over each and every inductee to The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for 2023 and give my opinion on whether or not that inductee even belongs on the list or not!
Has the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame finally got it right this year? Or have they slipped into the all too famiiar pattern o including anyone from any musical style? Has The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame become a shadow o the original intent of honoring Rockers who separated themselves from the pack?
Of course these and many more questions are answered in tonight’s video!
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Michael Noland
The Bottom Line
Thin Lizzy, Foreigner, The Sweet, Ozzy Osbourne, Warren Zevon, Mott the Hoople, Motorhead, The Guess Who, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Eddie Money, Boston, Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult, Golden Earring, Foghat, America, Bad Company/Paul Rodgers, George Thorogood, Rod Stewart, Steppenwolf, Todd Rundgren, New York Dolls, MC5, The Wrecking Crew, Uriah Heep, Humble Pie, Peter Frampton, Carole Kaye, Dick Dale, Phil Collins - I probably can think of more who should be in, but I can't right now. In my opinion, any band or musician after 1980 should NOT be nominated before any classic artists are.
And Grand Funk Railroad, Jethro Tull, J Geils Band, Kansas, and Supertramp.
Rod Stewart, The Wrecking Crew, Dick Dale, Todd Rundgren are already in the RRHOF
and Rainbow
@@billpet4602 at least Dio. Between Rainbow, Sabbath, and his own band he more than qualifies
Ten Years After,Savoy Brown
I look forward to Deep Purple being inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame.
Hell Yea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also put Sha Na Na & Tiny Tim in there as well
well said
And the winner of Heavy Metal band of the year is...Jethro Tull! Yeah. DP in Country HOF would be....
Don't forget about Aerosmith in the rap hall of fame.
@@sspaay Walk DAT Way, homey
The RRHOF lost legitimacy years ago.
I so agree Robert!❤
I didn’t know the hall also had a John Sykes. Now I feel bad for the guitar player. Even more than I always have….
Do you think the Hall lost their cred when they inducted Motown girl group The Supremes in the third year or Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin in the second year? They also inducted The Everly Brothers in the first year and they sound very poppy.
"Dreeeeeam, dream, dream, dream
Dreeeeeam, dream, dream, dream
When I want you in my arms..."
Also, I just found the album "Elvis - The 50 Greatest Love Songs' which also sounds like pop shit.
For my part it was when I heard Madonna was inducted and still Rush wasn't in. At that point I had lost all faith in what they were doing.
And as been pointed out on this and a few other channels there are glaring omissions that need to be sorted before it can recover any sense of what it was formed for in the first.
John Sykes is a slam on the brilliant guitarist of the same name. The Hall of Shame hasn't been legit since they let in the first artist that wasn't Rock and Roll. Guess what the Country Music Hall of Fame doesn't have in it?.. Music that isn't Country! If they called it the Music Hall of Fame there would never have been an issue! Disgusting!
Warren Zevon has been passed over for years with not a nomination. If it takes Billy Joel to get him nominated, I say thank you, Billy!
I totally agree! WZ was my musical hero of the late 70's/early 80's! Don't know if even a letter from ANYONE would get him nominated! He wasn't "mainstream" enough, although he was a brilliant artist, which the Hall of Shame doesn't acknowledge...
Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne, The Eagles, Tom Petty, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie Nicks, David Gilmour, Jerry Garcia, Dwight Yoakim, John Waite….
Warren Zevon in a drunken stupor in 1979, pissed off Jan Wenner it was in Warrens Biography!!
Billy Joel pushed for Joe Cocker!!
Warren Zevon gave everyone some good advice before he died: "Enjoy every sandwich."
I have to agree with you Michael. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame should be renamed The Popular Music Hall of Fame. It really seems that eventually any popular act will get into the Hall no matter their style of music.
He conveniently forgets about Ted Nugent Damn Yankees Grand Funk Railroad Peter Frampton a lots of other deserving bands this is nothing but politically motivated idiots typical labs
I totally agree. Country has their HOF, as does rap and hiphop. Maybe somebody can devise awards that actually Rock.
@@monagarrison2389 not with the musically challenged clowns at the rrhof
It's not about Popularity, it's about diversity and woke propaganda. If it were about popularity foreigner would have been in decades ago
@@fredstriker2042 what is woke
As the comments point out, there's an endless list of well-known older iconic bands that continue to be passed over. The older bands blazed the trail for the others to follow and deserve their due.
If I cared about this like I did when they first opened it, I'd point out that Mark Lindsay is still alive and the Radiers are being totally ignored.
Paul Rever and Raders were good the Cherokee people song was my favorite
More cowbell is needed! I suggest Mountain, and Blue Oyster Cult!
I agree! This is the one group whose exclusion TOTALLY turned me off the RRHOF! Shame indeed...
Blue oster cult I've seen 3 times and my friend say the lead singer at casino after concert talks to him a. litte and had picture with him he was great
I totally agree! PR and the R really rocked! There music evolved really nicely with the times as there career progressed. Their 1969 albums, "Hard-n-Heavy ..." and "Alias Pink Puzz" are diverse and rocked. Albums "Collage" and "Country Wine" from 1970 and 1972 repectively, are great! Right with the times and massively underrated. Hints of The Allman Bros, Mountain and The Guess Who.
INXS is mad underrated band. People forget them whenever they think of bands that have been snubbed from R&R Hall of Fame. Rock N Roll Hall of Fame seems to be inducting artists who get the most spotlight on social media.
Yep. They deserve it. I really like INXS. Got some super great songs. Don’t Change. Classic.
Whats the difference between "mad " underrated and just underrated ?
Absolutely! INXS definitely deserves to be inducted. But Jann Wenner had it in for the band ever since the mid-80s when Rolling Stone would only put one person on the cover. Michael Hutchence refused to be alone on the cover and Jann said well Screw You, we will never support your band again. And, they never did. No feature stories, very small reviews of albums and when Michael died, only a third of a page remembrance. Very different than the Australian RS who had them on the cover a few times and lots of great feature stories and reviews. I know Jann has nothing to do with the RNRHOF any longer, but that culture of his nastiness lives on.
The Rock Hall must have taken cues from MTV which took the Music out of "Music Television".
MTV sucks.
You're an idiot Warren zivon is rock and roll what are you kidding me They were playing back in the day in the seventies they were playing bands like R and B bands like the spinners back when it was called progressive rated before it became rock radio This is why people hate baby boomers because you you act stupid I hate people like you who act like you dress look like hippies but that's like a bunch of conservative morons shut up you're a frustrated musician you're a phony cut it out
They took their cues from Rolling Stone magazine too.
MTV helped to kill rock and roll.
Alex Lifeson gave the eulogy to the Rock and roll Hall of Fame when Rush give their acceptance speeches.
Spot on!👏
Blah, blah, blah.
@@unready1961well spoken
Proper English
Best acceptance speech ever, hands down! Lol
When Rush was finally inducted into the R&RHOF, it was because Rush fans absolutely bombarded the HOP with letters and other communications demanding it happen. I was so glad to see their induction, especially when Neil Peart was alive to enjoy it. And Foo Fighters Taylor Hawkins (with Dave Grohl) doing the inducting, praising Neil, his idol, was the highlight of the show. Now both Taylor and Neil are gone. At least we had that monument.
I loved Alex Livson’s speech.
“ Blah blah blah…” That summed it all up. Lol
Indeed. It was a shame and a travesty that it took so long for Deep Purple to be inducted, which was after Jon Lord passed away.
I definitely agree Fran. Rush had been eligible since the 1990's. It also took Yes a while to be inducted. It's truly sad. 👍
@@wintermoondardar1277 Unfortunately, Chris Squire died before Yes was inducted, I'm still mad about that to this day
@Coaster World I know. So am I. It's sad because Yes had been eligible for years. I saw Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman (ARW) the year after he died. It wasn't the same without Chris Squire.
The problem with having a new class of inductees every year is that you are forced to choose from a decreasing pool of talent. The greatest acts of Rock and Roll came from the 60s and 70s. That is not even open to question. It's been downhill since then, so the quality of the artists have dropped in talent and importance.
The real problem is that they have snubbed many from the 60’s & 70’s that should be included, so there is great talent to choose from!
Exactly! I've been saying this for years. It's not possible to have a ceremony every year and remain credible. The only way to do that would be to just induct no more than two artists per year. They should have done that from the beginning.
But there is still a huge pool of extremely good rock and roll people and bands to draw from for the next 20 years. Why isn't this being done?
Not true, they have put in so much crap that doesn't belong, there are tons of artists and bands that should absolutely be there, so I disagree
No Tull in the Hall!… I rest my case!
Don’t even get me started on Tull Betsey! I so agree!❤❤❤
It borders on criminal. But the Hall has a well established prejudice against prog rock, metal and punk.
Tull yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
@@donpietruk1517 musically challenged
I love "Aqualung" even though the lyrics are a bit creepy: "Sitting on a park bench/Eyeing little girls with bad intent."
Missy Elliot even being nominated is a joke
Tell me the origins of Rock. Cause It was invented in the deep South
You are 100% spot on with your opinions/analysis of the current inductees. No REO? No Foreigner? No Rainbow? No Mountain? No Kansas? C’mon Man!!!
You can still induct Foreigner with Mick Jones and Lou Gramm alive. Cannot wait until one dies to do it
Pot smoking Willie doesn't belong in the rock and roll hall of fame iron Madian needed to b in y there not is crazy stepoenwolf needs in there with ted Nugent
It's a Disgrace. The Morons have no Business Running the Rock and Roll Fame. I agree with you 💯 percent.
Word for word, exactly how I feel. Too many Fantastic Rock Bands excluded. It's a cryin' shame...
Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, BTO, Three Dog Night and Joe Cocker just to name a few. How can Rap and Country & Western be in R&R category ? I agree with you it should be The R&R Hall of Shame.
It should also be noted that Iron Maiden is very adamant about being REAL! They don't use tracks or any fake stuff! I think for one song they use a loop at the very beginning, at that's because it uses a gigantic Japanese drum that Nico can't play while he's on his kit. But aside from that, they are all real!
How can The Guess Who and Bachman Turner Overdrive who are from a Canadian prairie town, Winnipeg, which is in the middle of nowhere but these bands still achieved international success. Yet, they are ignored. J Geils Band is also being left out who toiled in rock for a decade until they made it hitting number one with “Centerfold” form their “Freeze Frame” album.
Would he consider them Pop because of their shift in sound and popularity on that album?
@@RVZNKaraoke BTO came into existence because Randy had to prove to Burton he could rock and Not Fragile is all metal with pop/rock sensibilities but that is how you sell records. The Guess Who for their time was a rock band. But let's get to the crux here both Randy and Burton achieved massive success in rock music from a town in the middle of nowhere in Canada to boot. They are genuine rock royalty and how the Hall of Fame cannot salute them but instead salute Cheryl Crow and others is beyond me.
@@tod3msn Yeah, so the RnRHoF obviously doesn't believe true rock would have enough appeal, so after some obvious ones, they forgot about the rest.
@@RVZNKaraoke
If I remember right,
Jann Wenner years ago admitted that if he did not expand the scope of untries
into the Hall,it would die on the vine
because not nearly enough current
ROCK MUSIC was being made anymore.
And in order to keep it going,the decision
to admit entrance into the Hall for
everybody and their brother,was made.
But it is more than that.
It has become a pageant.
A ocrporate sponsored luncheon
for talking heads and
self anointed important people
who may or may not have a
dog in the fight.
Or at the very least an investment.
And with this,comes political control.
Black performers are not to be denied
access into this institution.
White groups,such as STEPPENWOLF,
GRAND FUNK RAILROAD,KANSAS,BOC,
BOSTON,HUMBLE PIE,et al,are not in.
Related, the BahaMen received an award
Grammy,in 2001 "who let the dogs out".
Anyone interested in a Rock band's take
on the absurd monkey business that is
the RRHOF, look up Steve Miller(Band)
and what he had to say for his induction.
Anybody that thinks that everyone is
qualified,is a Liberal idiot.
Most of these acts are members of a genre that already have their own HOF
and do not reasonably belong here.
1) Jethro Tull 2) STEPPENWOLF, 3) Grand Funk Railroad 4) Thin Lizzy, 4) The Guess WHO 5) Boston 6) Foreigner 7) Bad Company 8) Procol Harem 9) Emerson Lake and Palmer 10) Uriah Heep
I can’t believe you’re almost at 24,000!! It’s been a minute since I checked your numbers. Congratulations, Michael! Well/deserved!
Rock & Roll did NOT start with Long haired White guys playing guitars in suburban garages. It started in the STREETS, with Black Doo-Wop groups singing their harmonies on Street Corners. Rock and Roll came from BLACK Rhythm and Blues. Without Black Artists , you simply DONT HAVE R&R. So,, Why should Black artists be excluded from a genre of music that THEY INVENTED? Without Black Blues, Jazz and R&B, you’d still be singing Country and doing Minuettes !! Did you know that ELVIS
PRESLEY is in the Rhythm & Blues Hall of Fame ? As is Dick Clark ? ITS TRUE !! So WHY can’t DON CORNELIUS and THE SPINNERS be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ? Or, should the ACCOLADES only go to ONE SIDE OF THE STREET ?
“Now, let’s not go EXCLUDING PEOPLE”. - Jayne Cobb, Firefly TV Series, Fox, 2002
Maiden should have been included years ago.
I agree with you, but maybe this time Ron???❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine ...More Anti-Whitism
They are the main band when I was just a kid that set me on my love for hard rock and metal.
Link Wray should be in as a Rock and Roll pioneer. NO ONE is more Rock & Roll than Link and was a huge inspiration for many to come including Pete Townshend, Jimmy Page and Neil Young He was one of the first guitarists to use distortion. Link also checks the "woke" boxes the hall likes being Native American. Steppenwolf were pioneers in heavy rock who were very successful and had one of the greatest Rock anthems in "Born To Be Wild". That alone should be enough for induction. The Guess Who of course should be inducted. The hall ignores them every year for some reason.
A few years ago, they initiated
what was supposed to be a regular
part of inductions--singles.
They seem to have mysteriously
forgotten about this, but one of their
first choices was Wray's "Rumble".
Thought this sort of thing was going
to continue. Apparently not. Too bad.
@@laustcawz2089 It was a 2 million seller and the only instrumental to be banned because of it's titled. It sounded like nothing else at the time.
@@bloppysloppy2283 "Rumble" still sounds exactly like what the title suggests, even though it's old enough to be in a retirement home.
Just his work with Robert Gordon, and of course, "Rumble", should put him there,
@@mitchellbaker9434 I loooove the work he did with Robert Gordon. That's some of the most Rockin' guitar ever, pure Rock & Roll!
Nailed it man. I left the music industry a few years back because of the lack of any integrity overall. RRHOF is high up on that list.
The Hof have nothing to do with your commitment to music. Either you love it or not. That's a choice you made, no one else.
@@sekulrtsnfnugg6126 My commitment to rock music, especially hard rock, has NEVER wavered. I now choose to spend my own time and dollars on acts that I believe are in it for the long haul, not what most press deem the next big thing, I’ve been in this industry for 3 decades now and I’ve seen too many labels, radio stations, etc, swing back and forth trying to catch on with a current trend. I realize that’s the nature of it all, and that’s ok for some people, but I’m surely not going to condone it. I find I enjoy things much more when it’s NOT forced, or propped up by some strong arm management types, corporate sponsors, etc…
The mention of Rock n Roll in my grade 5 public school class was truly a lesson in learning, one about the famous 1957's Bill Haley and the Comets.... Rock Around The Clock !
That was 1955. In movie Blackboard Jungle.
Everything you need to know about the RRHOF is in an interview Steve Miller gave back stage there the night he was inducted in 2016. He wasn't impressed! Check it out - lots of videos of it on this platform. AND......here's what Steve Miller told the Georgia Straight paper last year about his thoughts on the RRHOF: "Yeah, it's a very, very, very closed kinda boys' club," said Milller, "that was basically run for years by Jann Wenner, the guy who publishes Rolling Stone. And he was like Louella Parsons or something-he'd dislike some artists, he wouldn't let people in. He controlled everything, and all the time claiming he didn't. But the group that was nominating and picking people were a little elitist I think, and they had different kind of induction ceremonies for different artists. They treated different people completely differently........."I mean there are a lot of people they don't have in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I can't tell you why, I just know that, after dealing with them..."
I heard they wanted to charge Miller with $10.000 for 1 or 2 tables.
Steve Miller was really PO'ed that only he was inducted and not including his band.
Now legendary
Jann is exactly why certain groups don’t get in and why he’s so heavy on u2 and Springsteen he’s got his rich corporate rock pals so forget about real true rockers at this point
Yeah...$10,000 for a table so people he played with and could thank could get to the show. It is a great interview, and he names folks that should be there. Like Burton Cummings says... 'why do I need the RRHOF, I can walk down into my basement and look at gold records and lots of real rock history.'@@eddygsmusicworld1708
I nominate the Beatles for the Classical Music Hall of Fame because they incorporated violins in some of their songs. ELO needs to be in that hall of fame also.
I think John Lydon had the best thing to say about the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. He described it as ' urine in wine'.
How right he is.
When will they look at bands like Grand Funk Railroad, Mott the Hoople, Humble Pie, Thé Guess Who? They all deserve this more than anyone else nominated.
Did they change Music. Tell me their music achievements.
@@Unsweetened8618 check out their music and you will see why.
Absolutely GFR and Bad Company.
Top 10 hits, #1 hits, wrote and played their own music. The Guess Who are the original rock band of Canada with a much greater string of hits than Rush ever had. Throw in Three Dog Night as well. Most of the 90's and 00's children have their earbuds in too tightly. The RRHOF brass no longer listen to or consider the 60's and 70's rockers and the trail they blazed- a true act of pulling off the headphones and putting the blinders on. @@Unsweetened8618
As someone who lives where Missy Elliot (and Pharrell Williams) hail from, they have never done ANYTHING for music other than sample tracks of other artists but yet both locally were given the "keys to the city."
And still did more than most people from VA
@@LuisRivera-tt2ub in your opinion. They are just an 'acceptable' genre and are not rock n roll.
Humble Pie,Ten Years After,Rory Gallagher,Savoy Brown,John Mayall,Paul Revere and the Raiders
I don’t care what anyone says….The Monkees should be there based on the lone fact that they fought the system and won! Can’t get more rock and roll than that! Rebellion at its best and actually becoming the band they were portraying on tv and doing it very well is so impressive. Not to mention they have two of pop/rock’s best all time vocals, a very innovative songwriter and a multi instrumentalist. Selling a Kazillion records worldwide, and lasting the test of time 55 years on! Influencing countless artists that are in the hall themselves…..the Beatles, Brian Wilson, Kurt Cobain and Nirvana, REM, U2, Coldplay, Billy Joel, Melissa Etheridge, the Go Go’s, the Bangles, Oasis, Duran Duran, Deathcab For Cutie, Andy Partridge, Weezer, Eric Burdon just to name a few have cited being fans and/or influencing them. The tv series influencing MTV which was later created by Nesmith himself! But that’s ok , no one talks about that!
Other 60’s artists who need to be in hands down:
Paul Revere & the Raiders
The Guess Who
The Turtles
The Grass Roots
Tommy James & Shondells
The Beau Brummels
Herman’s Hermits
The Searchers
Donovan
Petula Clarke
to name a few!
Yes, to everything you've said here. I especially thumbs up your mentioning the Monkees. They were my (a sweet, shy, timid, retiring girl's) gateway drug into every kind of hard rock, including metal. Without them, I would have kept only to pop-country or easy listening pop. Mickey Dolenz had one of the great rock voices. The Monkees fed a seed of rebellion and absurdity in me that is the very heart of Rock and Roll.
@@quij7ote222 well said 👍🏻
Yes
Amen
Not Your Steppin" Stone! How can you get more RnR than that!?!
It's getting to be more like "The Rock and Roll Hall of Just OK".
I just enjoyed a packed house of what’s left of the Three Dog Niight, and was shocked to learn that they have not been inducted !!! This is such a BS !
Can’t imagine anybody choosing “diversity” over authenticity. Certainly not anyone at the Rotten Old Hall of Lame…
As someone who lives 30 miles from the Hall I have went once. Sooooooooooo disappointed. The biggest part of the building is to buy Hall merchandise. As soon as anybody could be inducted (seems each year it gets worse) it lost all credibility for me. A real shame. I wish New York would have won the rights to this fiasco instead of here in Cleveland. Its embarrassing.
I live an hour from the Hall of Fame. I went there in the early 90's and again in the early 2000's. I won't be going back. What a disappoint it is.
So the 2nd time was because you're dumb?
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 First time I went with a friend. The second was with my ex-wife who wanted to go. So you really did have that lobotomy in OFOTCN.
Now I'm wondering if W.A.P. will get a Grammy nod for Song of the Year
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I stopped paying attention to who makes the RRHOF about 20 years ago, but I had to watch this video.
Right on the money man! Bang,Zoom! Outta the park again! 🤟🤟👍👍. Way up.
Thanx Jeffrey!❤👌
There has been no Rock N Roll involved in the Rock Hall for years.
There are many great rock artists that haven't been inducted, while they induct Rappers and Country acts.
If it was a choice to go to the Rock N Roll hall of fame or go see the worlds largest ball of string.
I'm picking the string.
Badfinger..... before it's way too late
Oh yeah Doug! You just hit one of too many heads on too many nails brother!❤❤❤
An original Rock-n-Roller, Cliff Richard has sold more than 250 million records worldwide, making him one of the best-selling music artists of all time.
At the induction ceremony the DJ should play “Congratulations” every time an artist makes their way to receive their award.
Please give us his TOP 20 SONGS that everybody worldwide knows...PLEASE!
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 pick any American Rock-n-Roller born in 1940 and list their top 20 hits. Go ahead without looking. PLEASE!
Richard has had 67 UK top ten singles, the second highest total for an artist (behind Presley). He holds the record, with Presley, as the only act to make the UK singles charts in all of its first six decades (1950s-2000s). He has achieved 14 UK No. 1 singles, and is the only singer to have had a No. 1 single in the UK in each of five consecutive decades.
He has 8 top 40 USA singles.
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 instead of continuing with your Americentric troll why don’t you do yourself a favor and search TH-cam?
Start with: Young Ones, Bachelor Boy, Congratulations, Living Doll, Devil Woman, We don’t talk anymore, Carrie and go from there.
Of the 250 million records he’s sold just 10% of those sale have been in the UK.
Missy Elliot i's a spoken word performer. They should make a spoken word HOF and put her in with other greats like William Shatner, Ice Tea, Puff Daddy and Lovey Howell.
It's basically a joke at this point. I used to get worked up about it, but after awhile I just grew apathetic.
You forgot Telly Savalas
@@stephenbrown4211 hahaha You're right.
Good point. The artists you mentioned are an insult to William Shatner!
I think Bill Shatner deserves a spot in the Hall for his "covers" of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" and "Iron Man". 😁 th-cam.com/video/eKggGGo_7RU/w-d-xo.html
Five points for the Lovey Howell shout-out.
Iron Maiden is finally getting some recognition.
WAY TOO LATE
they've should have been there a long time ago dude
‘Arry & Co. should 🖕🏼 the RRHOF and NOT accept the induction.
I think they should rename it The Music Hall of Fame.
Yeah Catherine! And it shoulda been changed decades ago! ❤💐👌😉
Cool...I nominate Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, and Pat Boone.
Thin Lizzy, Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Bad Company, Billy Idol, Blue Oyster Cult, Dick Dale, Harry Nilsson, King Crimson, MC5, Motorhead, The New York Dolls, Ozzy Osbourne, The Pixies, Procul Harum, The Runaways, Sonic Youth, Television...and those are only a few of the people whose exclusion from the Hall Of Fame confuses me.
I would like to see your list of band's that should be in the rock and roll hall of fame but aren't. You may have already posted this and I just haven't seen it. Just a drop a few names Jethro Tull, Blue Oyster Cult, Styx, King Crimson, Johnny Winter, Grand Funk Railroad , Humble Pie and many more.
Just a few more absurd offensive glaring omissions that I have to mention. Emerson , Lake and Palmer. I mean are you f****** kidding me... Robin Trower, Foreigner, Rory Gallagher, Uriah Heep, BTO, and even Pat Travers. I saw him back in the seventies and you can't get any more rock and roll than that guy
Thin Lizzy
H*** yes to thin Lizzie. I also saw them back in the seventies and they kicked serious a**
I left off Kansas what the h*** was I thinking
Keep preaching! I'd also add uncle Ted, but we all know how likely that is...
I cannot argue with any of your points , I piggyback on everything you said . Well Done !
As far as the artists and bands I know about I found myself agreeing with everything you said. As a Kate Bush fan since the start of her career I’ve always been annoyed when the lack of widespread knowledge of her in America has cost her recognition in things like the the Hall of Fame. Sure, she was not that famous in America, but she was huge almost everywhere else in the English speaking world and across Europe. And the list of artists who cite her as an influence, including in America, is immense.
At least Stranger Things gave her some much needed extra recognition and not a stupid dance on tiktok
Jethro Tull formed in 1967, and still in existence, are by far the most successful rock group in the world that have yet to be inducted. Tull have sold in excess of 60 million albums (that is what "they" have stated since 1980s), it is more likely around 100 million albums. They have had two number 1 albums in the US, 13 top 20 US albums and 24 albums in the top Billboard 100. In the UK they have had a staggering 25 albums in the top 40; 16 of these in the top 20 and 7 in the top 10. They have performed approximately 3,100 concerts all over the world in their almost 56 year career. So why aren't they in the R&RHoF?....
What about ELP?
Not quite as unique as Tull but still way more deserving than many recent inductees.
I thumb the moment the video starts. Have the Beatles gotten a BET Music award yet?
Long over due! Let's Have some diversity at the BET awards!
Thanx Louis! No I don’t think they are! Too white and wrong kinda country I think!❤❤❤
Took a look into the charts 25 years ago. I suppose next year the inductees will include N´Sync, Backstreet Boys and the Spice Girls. OMG I hope I´m wrong
Britney and Xtina, too. Them getting in before King Crimson, Foreigner, Thin Lizzy, Jethro Tull and Uriah Heep will be a HUGE G.I. JOKE!
N'Sync were a great ROCK band, douchie!
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 well if you think so.. A rock band should play their instruments and probably
Too fast..... and write their own songs
@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 Oh! You mean N'SUCK!! There...I fixed it for you. How ya like that one...kiddo 😂😂🤣🤣?!
And one band that should be included / should be in their.... SAVOY BROWN !
R.I.P. KIM SIMMONS !
You are absolutely right about them. I would also put John Mayall in as well as Jethro Tull.
@@paulinwoburn9680 John Mayall should have been in years ago.
Should have Jethro Tull.
@@paulinwoburn9680 Fleetwood Mac would not have existed, without Mayall. Three of the guys came from Mayall's band.
There are so many artists and bands from the 70's and 80's who have been passed over by this HOF. It used to actually mean something to be inducted with so many fantastic artists. Now everything is a popularity contest based on social media and whether or not the "board" personally like you.
Weird Al Yankovic needs a nomination
Once again you nailed it. Thank you.
With regards to Joy Division/New Order, JD is a precursor to bands like the Cure, Depeche Mode, and Duran Duran. They are influential and are definitely rock. Alternative rock definitely but rock nonetheless (just a different form of rock). I think they will get the Duran Duran spot from last year, especially since many alternative acts are now on the board.
If band like Joy Division gets a nomination, then Killing Joke should get one. Jaz Coleman would probably tell the Rock Hall of fame to stick it where the sun don't shine because that is the way he responds to all conformety.
@@christophersanders5007 Yeah Killing Joke is amazing and I'd vote for them. I could see more of the British bands get nominated like Siouxsie and the Banshees and I welcome it.
@@christophersanders5007 I'm no fan of the Rock Hall of Fame but Joy Division/New Order are a decent pick, and they have had more cultural impact than many other alternative rock acts including Killing Joke.
I think you could also list U2 and Soundgarden as being influenced by them. I'm not a huge U2 fan but they were big and I am very fond of Soundgarden. Joy Division were one of the first important post punk bands that took the anger and energy in a different direction. I'm also more of a fan of their early work than the later New Order iterations but I'm more Punk at heart than New Wave. Also is the Hall maybe starting to make up for their overlooking punk and alternative bands for so long with some of these nominations? And will they ever do that for metal?
@@donpietruk1517 Very true, both U2 and Soundgarden (and I'll go further and say grunge acts) were influenced by JD/NO. I was just thinking of recent inductees. I think they are, because I remember all of the articles talking about omissions and so many wondering why acts like Duran Duran weren't in even though they were very popular (they still make music and sell out concerts) and influential (so many alternative bands today sound like them).
I vote for Styx. Great rock band.
Lotta iconic artists have been overlooked. Alan Parsons is my choice for most overdue. Artist, producer, engineer, songwriter. Ain’t much he hasn’t done.
You nailed it. Rock and Roll should not be politically correct and the electric guitar should be the primary instrument.
As a 60 year old black guy, the R&R HoF is a sick joke perpetrated on music lovers. Until Motörhead and MC5 are inducted, who cares what popular act gets put in? I don’t.
It’s absolute bullshit that Jan & Dean haven’t been inducted. It would’ve meant so much to Jan while he was still with us, and would still be worthwhile to honor Dean!
As a lifelong musician, music-lover an old guy, Jann Wenner and Rolling Bone have done more damage to artists than anyone I can imagine.
I've been calling it the Hall of Farce for years. Maybe I'll try Hall of Shame now. Has a nice ring to it.
The RRHOF stopped being the RRHOF years ago. I always wanted to go there and see the groups and music I grew up on, now you couldn’t pay me to go !!
Well, it seems hit and miss who gets in. For example, Neil Sedaka has, I'm sure, been deliberately ignored. He was the biggest selling rock/pop artust in the US before the Beatles arrived, He recorded the most exquisite material which embraced Doo-wop and hard edged rock'n'roll, and to top that, he made a huge comeback in the 70s. To my mind, a far greater artist than Carole King ( who learned a lot from Neil ), Again, his exclusion must be a personal thing.
Enjoying your work very much. A child of the 1970s. Still love the music. Thanks for the channel. I will keep watching.
The only silver linings on this nominee list is that Warren Zevon finally gets some well deserved recognition. Sound garden , Iron Maiden and Joy Division are worthy as well
Where are Cliff Richard and The Shadows? The most influential singer and lead guitarist in the UK, leading to the entire British Invasion. Cliff has just had a Top Five LP in the UK for the eighth decade in a row, outsold only by The Beatles and Elvis. But because he was only a moderate success in America, he will probably never be inducted. To bad, as he's over 80 and deserved (along with The Shadows, who "invented" the lead guitar/rhythm guitar/bass/drums format) to be inducted with Elvis, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, The Beatles, The Stones, and everybody else. Lead guitarist Hank Marvin inspired every single "guitar god" in the UK. From George Harrison to Jeff Beck and on and on. He's a LEGEND!
Steppenwolf
It's not just music. Its the hours on the road and lifestyle that makes them rock n roll
At this point if I was an artist who got inducted I wouldn’t even show up to accept or even care.
I don't think you gotta worry about that, Smell... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amen! Preach Brother. Many recent inductees are a sick joke.
Another year, another great list from you and the comments here, of HOF snubs. As I mentioned last year, this is another year that Wings is snubbed. I'm not surprised. It took the HOF a while before induction Sir Paul McCartney in as a solo performer. Others include Three Dog Night, the Guess Who, and Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.
Michael Noland, hello to the man with a rock-n-roll soul.
Tell it like it is, brother!
You said what's on your mind, honestly and respectfully, without sugar coating it.
I wholeheartedly share your opinions.
✌️brother and long live Rock "n" Roll.
The classic, bonafide, certified, authentic, real deal Rock"n"Roll.
I really like that you call the Highwaymen “the four horsemen”! Great rant here and I’m with you all the way. The RRHOF is an embarrassment. A standing joke amongst folks I know. Cheers! 🕊
I couldn't have said it better myself! Great video.
....'But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity yeah'..... The professor was decades ahead of this kind of charade. We miss you Neil x
When my band and I were there in the early 2000’s,,, we decided to take the tour,,, as we were paying our admission we were informed 3 entire floors of Rock & Roll exhibits were replaced by rap, hip hop exhibits,,, which was not at all why we came to the “ Rock & Roll HOF” , neither was the cost of admission reduced.
When is the Mickey Mouse Ckub going to be nominated, Along with the Brady Bunch and of course the great singing group "The Honey Bees" from Gilligan's Island...
As I have said before. The Rock-n-Roll Hall of fame is to Rock-n-Roll what the Salvation Army is to National Defense and Rolling Stone magazine is on the serious journalism list of publications right after The National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.
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I agree with you....since I am a die-hard Moody Blues fan, I was surprized and elated they made it in....considering the people who run the hall of fame. Like so many other rock fans, there are so many acts missing...Foreigner, Styx, Jethro Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Tommy James & The Shondells, Bad Company, Steppenwolf, Grand Funk Railroad, Foghat...the list goes on. Maybe they should have hall of fames for different genres...the pop hall of fame, the rap hall of fame, the soul music hall of fame. I am surprised Frank Sinatra isn't in the rock hall of fame.
add Meatloaf
MTV kept their name but is no longer a music channel. No one's complaining about that.
There was a pop music writer back in the early 1990s that pointed out the R & R HOF included Bobby Darin, but not what the writer thought of as the female counterpart to Darin in Connie Francis, who had a prolific string of major hits from 1958 to 1962.
none of which were rock and roll from either of them.
Man, I hope out of the list, Iron Maiden, Soundgarden & Rage Against the Machine make it in the Hall of Fame. I don’t care if the HoF is sham, they should be recognized for their greatness.
When will Enya be inducted?
Maybe Zamfir and his pan flute will get in, or maybe The Harmonicats?
.....well, I do LOVE "Orinoco Flow".....
@@ogam5 We have all of Enya's albums and love her music. It's just not "rock". Zamfir, not so much...
I had this debate, years ago, when ABBA were inducted. A lot of folk seem to be under the impression that only 'Rock' or 'Metal' form the lineage from 1950's 'Rock and Roll'. Rock and Roll at that time and going into the early 60's WAS also regarded as Popular Music. It was also Dance Music, where you danced with your partner. Somewhere along the line (late 60's/early 70's), the sound got heavier and more 'macho', less dance orientated and females drifted more to favouring Pop groups and singers as they could still dance to them and the lyrical themes resonated with them more. 'Pop' as we know it covers a whole range of different styles, crossover and fusions of genres including Rock. Just as Rock and Roll itself was a culmination of merging genres and sub-genres, Country, Blues, Doo-Wop, etc, so there have been different strands that have in turn derived from it. So although a group like ABBA were influenced by European/Nordic Folk Music, their sound is also defined by the staple musical instruments of R n' R. and later Rock Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar, Drums, Keyboards, Synths. Yes, there is legitimate complaint to be had over how some acts who queue jumped and were inducted ahead of others. That causes annoyance as only a select few are chosen each year. But if their sound has a natural lineage from the 1950's R n' R, then they qualify. Some of the inductees do have a dubious lineage for sure.
Some inductees have a dubious lineage? I very much doubt that Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton inspired anyone to pick up a guitar and rock out. Unfortunately the RRHOF has blurred the line as to what rock and roll music is all about. It no longer celebrates the spirit of rock and roll music. It's now whoever is popular regardless of music genre. Such a fraud.
The closest Cindy Lauper ever came to rock ‘n’ roll was her cover of Roy Orbison I drove all night, and she bop which has almost a rock ‘n’ roll attitude…She also did a rock ‘n’ roll cover called money changes everything by the Brains which was actually pretty cool
This is the video of her performance of MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING. th-cam.com/video/pp4suZ4jNXg/w-d-xo.html.
I got someone else, he's waiting in the car outside...
Cyndi has a lot of rock songs, most of them are deep album cuts. That, her voice, and her pioneering rebel spirit IMO makes her worthy for consideration.
It's not a Roy Orbison cover. He didn't write the song. They may have both recorded it, but she released her version first. Get your facts straight.
Look up I Love to Hate You and It’s Hard to be Me for some later career rocking album cuts.
Dude!!! You freaking ROCK!!! I agree with 150 percent of what you said. I must say that even though I love Missy Elliott and she’s a true legend in her respective genres, even considering her for the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is an absolute insult!!!
I'm happy with Jack White getting in, he's the closest thing to modern rock on this list. I'd rather have them then most of these others, haha. Nice breakdown Michael!
Doesn't matter what they call it, it is NOT the R&RHOF, it is simply a commercial enterprise.
Love Willie Nelson, but he belongs (and probably belongs) in the Country Music Hall Of Fame.
Rock and Roll has evolved over the years, can't do anything about that.
Cyndi Lauper was in Blue Angel before her solo career which is 50's Rock and Roll. 🤘🏻❤️✌🏻
If the b52's and sousie and the banshees r not in,then no way cyndi Lauper should be in,
But her solo stuff isn't rock and roll
Great vid!
I am 100% with you on this. Everyone one the list is a great artist with in their respective genre. But not all of them belong to the Rock N Roll genre. Now if they rename to the Pop Music Hall Of Fame for popular acts across all genres. Then my only arguments would be "have they been around long enough and have they paid their dues to earn this spot."
This is really dumb. I'm sorry. Pop music IS rock and roll music. It certainly is a lot more like original rock and roll than some of the harder metal acts. Even some of the more Rock-a-billy music like Johnny Cash or Jerry Lee Lewis sound closer to honest rock and roll at its inception than harder rock like metal. Also, rock-and-roll music has always been about challenging the bigotries of establishments. That is why the Hall-of-fame seeks diversity. White people can't appropriate black music and then exclude black people from the Hall of Fame. The same sounds that influenced rock-and-roll, especially jazz and blues, also influenced more country styles of music. Hank Williams and Patsy Cline were cross-over artists who played the Louisiana Hayride at the Municipal Auditorium(which I am looking at through my living room window at right now)the same era that Elvis Presley brought rock-and-roll to KWKH, which only played country music at the time. So you know, pretty much all pop music is rooted in common with Rock-and-roll. It is a diverse music that, by nature and intent, challenges the bigotry of establishment. But the challenge is never, NEVER, pointless. It is knowledgeable and educated, even honed to a laser finish as much as it is ever a basic soulful moaning of the blues or non-descript cry of joy.
NO, NOTHING but rock and roll, hence the name, ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME!
@@jamesadams2334 but Rock-n-roll encompasses a variety of subgenres. Every single category of modern popular music, including rap, and even country have Rock-n-roll influences. Kris Kristofferson was country but came up through rock channels. John Denver was easily a writer of rock and country songs, in the folky style of his day. The Eagles were rock and country. Linda Ronstadt was rock and country. Ray Charles was rock and blues but his best known music was crossed genres. Big band, swing and jazz has been a part of rock music - especially in the 1990s. Almost everybody listens to music from various genres and when they create new rock music they bring those influences with them. Even Broadway style musicals can be rock-and-roll. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice have written and produced several musical that have had hit singles on the rock charts. The earliest rock-and roll sounds more bluesy and country than rock music does today. The only current musician doing real rock-and roll today as it sounded early on is Stephen Sanchez. Harder speed metal bands like Megadeath sound nothing like authentic rock-and-roll in the 50s. Rock-n-roll historically is a blend of musical styles that has a very wide range of influences, and if the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame isn't about preservation of ALL of its styles as it evolved in history(not just hard rock)
You nailed it again!
Totally a disgrace just call it anybody Rock and roll Hall of shame