i honestly think they should of just made a season 10 (NOT comic book version) to answer alllll these questions before ending the show,then it least things would be answered.. i mean they left out A LOT of things that needed answers
My GF and I had a crazy theory that the new type of dragons were prominent pony sorcerers transformed (possibly unknowingly) into dragons to preserve the dragon race and keep them immortal after Opaline devastated the original Dragonlands, amongst them Trixie (Fountain), Starlight (Jade), and Sunset Shimmer (Luxxe). The designs were way too similar!
And they still re-used old, previously abandoned plots for those seasons, like the terrible "CMC become adults" episode, which made no sense so late in the continuity.
Wait, but when Celestia and Luna help with a sun and moon for the first time (that was showing in the episode with Fluttershy playing Celestia"s role, remember?), aren't sisters were unicorns? Or it's just me, having a wrong memory? (English isn't my native language, I tried my best 😅)
That's what I was thinking. I don't remember the exact episode number but it was of Fluttershy acting out the role of the princesses. They mentioned that because of Celestia and Luna raising and setting the sun and moon respectively, that's how they transformed into alicorns (besides getting their cutie marks).
@@jacquelinezambrano2123 yes! :D I'm glad you understand me. That's why I perceive g4 and g5 like two different universes. It's not continuing, it's... They're just contradicting each other.
It would be interesting to learn more of Opaline's Origins and possibly maybe if she's related to Luna and Celestia? in theory of course, but I hope one day that opaline does come back in the near future in G5 and maybe she'll get reform someday.
@@ToonTimeEUA Can you make a video about all the creepypastas of MLP Because I found a MLP creepypasta game called RAINBOW.EXE (AKA Rainbow Adventure) That's a game that talks about Rainbow Dash doing an adventure but meet SONIC.EXE, and she made a deal with him and she became an .EXE. And she will try to attack her victimes to transform them into Creepypastas. And after that she would broke the 4th wall and then the game is over.. BUT, it's isn't over, and other things happen and your computer will change the background image with the one witch shows Rainbow Dash.exe with her friends becaming creepypastas. and you could simply delete the files and change the background image, and everything would stop. That has gore, torture, blood background, jumpscares and horrible stuff. Fun Facts: Scootaloo is one of the victims witch is horrible, since she is like her sister. The levels where the mane 6 were testing are the names of the creepypastas, like cupcakes for example. I didn't watch all of it, since it scary, but I am not watching for now. If you want to make a video about creepypastas of MLP, you can, BUT please censor the scenes because it's so scary and has violence that isn't for kids.
@@SouhailAdalyeah I'm with you there, I know opaline doesn't have any redeeming qualities and trapped in the together tree forever but she brought this upon herself when she walked this dark path, but I believe opaline deserves better, maybe one day opaline will come back and apologize to Misty and how she treated her and her friends as well, and possibly she might meet Allura and become friends and sooner or later by become a romantic couple.
Why do these Bronies say G4 is the best generation of MLP when it has so many plot holes? G5 is better it actually answered alot of questions that G4 failed to answer! In my opinion G5 is the more superior generation to G4! And you just prooved it in this video!
7:46 I don’t think that Twilight & Kadence are fake alicorns. From what I saw in the series about Twilight, she transformed into an alicorn after completing Starswirl’s incomplete spell. And in the realm where Celestia met Twilight, she might have overloaded Twilight’s DNA by pouring a part of her own magic in her which might have caused the change in her. Atleast I think so!!
Just to be clear, something being unexplained doesn’t necessarily make it a “plot hole”. Soft magic systems frequently have large parts of the entire universe unexplained. G4 running out of time to explain every detail is in no way a mark against it; instead, I would examine unfinished character arcs as “flaws” (at least for arguments sake).
The two sisters could have never been born in Equestria because they’re literally on the flag of the nation. They’re essentially one of the first founders of the nation. I don’t think it was ever supposed to imply that they came from either some faraway or lost civilization of alicorn. Just that they literally couldn’t be born Equestrians given the fact they were crucial to Equestria being founded in the first place. Them not being born in a nation that didn’t exist at their birth doesn’t necessarily imply they came from somewhere else. It also just really doesn’t feel right. Alicorns have been shown to be the most powerful creatures who all live very very very long lives(Opaline is *ancient* ) yet a nation comprised of them has never stepped in to help Equestria or make itself known? It’s just weird. I liked it better when Celestia and Luna’s origins were essentially lost to time. They’re ancient forever rulers that predate the kingdom they rule, of course their origins would be shrouded in mystery. When they said Flurry was the first to be born an alicorn, I simply assumed that meant Celestia and Luna did something to earn their wings. They WERE the bearers of the elements of harmony and helped bring peace to the three races. By all accounts Celestia and Luna were heroes. If any ponies would be worthy to be the first alicorns, or the first alicorn in a long while, it’d be them.
The magical dragons are indeed a nice introduced, too bad they picked a bad voice for Spike and the dragons made the stupid mistake of storing their magic in a single stone which conveniently made Opaline's evil plan extra easy. G5 really did try to expand the lore in a positive way, but Make Your Mark really left a bad mark. Hopefully we can see further lore expanded such as the Dracony/Hippodrake Zanthorp.
I don't think the royal sisters were born as alicorn they were in there dna its like puberty when u grow older you just genetically grow wings or horns
I seen some of your My Little Pony G4 & G5 theories and they're really good, but I would like to see if you do a video of a theory on the G4 villain chrysalis and the changelings as well, I know there is a backstory to explain how she and her changelings came to be but it would be interesting to learn her origins in the TV show so is it possible you could do a theory video on Chrysalis and the changelings?
@@ToonTimeEUA well yes, Chrysalis does have an origin story on the Comics heck even other fans have turn fan made stories about Chrysalis how she became who she is now, but I would like to hear what your theories are on chrysalis, because I think there's more to her than meets the eyes. Thought it was a bummer that we never got the chance to see her Origins and the changelings on the TV show due to the fact that the writers and Hasbro has never done an actual origin story on the show I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.
On Spike I agree his hatching was not normal for a dragon. The magic might have modified him in some fashion. On other alicorns you could read my comments about “why no male alicorns”. It’s speculation but could help in further ideas. Star Swirl being a unicorn could be not true, he himself might be an alicorn but we never see him without his (potentially wings hiding) robes. So we have to take other’s word for this. When spike went on his dragon seeking quest a large number of the adult dragons seen were four legged. (Doesn’t explains why Spike was still bipedal when matured early by greed though. Maybe he was supported by magic? Explains their ability to fly like for pegasi.) Perhaps some dragons do go quadruped when they get adult sized, or partially anyway. Would be easier on their bodies.
Ok the alicorn one you are right Idk if the book(with starwirl) is canon so I cant say anything here but even so yea I can see this being a plothole or just as it is said in g5 that celestia meant IN equestria convieniently(so going by technicality) which is weird phrase from celestia but oh well The spike and the magic pearl is not a plothole cause it doesnt contradict anything established beforehand Does spike having a magic breath creates plotholes in g4? No it doesnt If anything, g5 is the one who creates the plotholes(like the dragon cutie mark) cause it was established that ONLY ponies can have them(or at least according to twilight) that is more likely a plothole than the spike magic imo The magic pearl Again - unexplored detail Nothing more And unexplored detail≠ a plothole You didnt use the best examples aside from alicorn one Also off the topic Isnt celestia and cutie mark and how they became alicorns a bit contradictory? Let me explain We see in heart warming eve spectacle that unicorn could have lower the sun and moon and they werent alicorns? So why celestia and luna are one? This is more of a plothole that your previous two imo Not a 100% a plothole cause maybe spike didnt explain that one cause he forgot but mine example is better imo(yes it is not related to g5 but I wanted to use an example) This is not a hate comment Im just sharing my perspective on the video(and the title)
Pretty sure that multiple unicorns had to exhaust themselves to raise the sun and moon every day while Celestia and Luna are able to do it on their own which is why that’s their cutie marks, it what they are proficient in/their talent. If they were born alicorns then their cutie marks are probably just like how normal cutie marks work, they aren’t alicorns because they can raise the sun and moon as much as Fluttershy isn’t a pegasus because she can talk to animals.
I think the real deason why there are so many plot holes in g4 is because Hasbro and the writers simply didn't want to answer thise unanswered questions out of laziness.
Answer The Little gym cutie mark thing on the dragons sparky is a baby ponies don't get their cutie marks when they're first born why would he. And spike is just too old and of the previous generation
I have no item, about this video. But I have a question for you personally. If it's okay: 1. I don't know why it's bothering me just after seeing your videos. 2. Do you have a WhatsApp account, or Reddit. Or it's okay to ask and answer here?! 3. Do you have some friends, out of your channel. Just an interest. Because you do your videos really often. 4. Do you have actually job, or you 💯 TH-camr?!
OK, first of all, Spike is not a baby. He is a teenager please stop calling him a baby, but this is wrong. I might as well make a video to make it awareness that is spike is not a baby. He’s a teenager stop calling my baby please
no creo que los dragones tuvieran magia desde siempre, sino que esta fue creada por su amistad como menciono spike 2. en los comics de set your sail, la reina cally lilly menciona que muchos artefactos se perdiero y los demas reinos marino cayeron, dando a entender que seaquestria esta completamente devastada y los hipogrifos dejaron de existir o estan reducidos. la razo de esto fue una guerra de la superficie, posiblemente la guerra que advirtio danu al final de los comics de la temporada 10 de la g4. incluso siendo esta guerra la verdadera responsable de la gran division, porque no creo que haya sido opaline, porque discord menciona que despues de que twiligth creo os cristales y desterro a opaline, la paz regreso a equestria. 3. la verdad la ciudad de skyros se lleva insuando desde la g4 por el diario de las dos hermanas, pero debido a la cancelacion de la animacion de la g5 tal vez no volvamos a ver nada de este reino, aunque esto podria ser visto en los comics.
they still upload episodes, but they talk only about "adventures" ( that means it just they live peacefully without any problem and laught) Also in TYT, everytime that Sparky is for example sleeping, the mane 6 do the cutie face since he is adorable, but in MYM, they don't do that. MLP TYT is the WORST show of MLP that I saw, for MYM, it isn't bad at all, since it's has adventure more intresting.
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i honestly think they should of just made a season 10 (NOT comic book version) to answer alllll these questions before ending the show,then it least things would be answered.. i mean they left out A LOT of things that needed answers
Ikr 😭
I wanted to see more of their futures, and FLURRY HEARTTT
And some of the s10 comics had some cheesepie romance- (kinda)
And i know not many like that stuff but id eat it up as an episode (i need it.)
And let's talk about what type of plot holes created 5 generation!
the G5 had a lot of potential, it was very sad that they filled the G4 with holes :(
@@ToonTimeEUA That's right, i think would be better if them wasn't related to G4
My GF and I had a crazy theory that the new type of dragons were prominent pony sorcerers transformed (possibly unknowingly) into dragons to preserve the dragon race and keep them immortal after Opaline devastated the original Dragonlands, amongst them Trixie (Fountain), Starlight (Jade), and Sunset Shimmer (Luxxe). The designs were way too similar!
G5 fixed nothing. It was a poor cash grab by attempting to include G4. It will never compare or “fix” G4
I see you commented without watching the video
very sad that the g5 was so poorly crafted :(
@@DinosaurNick I did watch the video, but go on. What I said is true
G5 WASNT supposed to be a cash grab, it was supposed to be a heartfelt generation, but a person named Cox ruined it and now Hasbro is in debt
They were just trying to experiment with the animation style it just wasn't a very good one
What if Sparky placed those gems on these dragons in remembrance of the cutie marks of Ponies as he was raised by ponies?
0:30 "maybe because they ran out of time"
Bruh what the hell-:they had 9 seasons, and 26 episodes in each season 💀💀💀
And they still re-used old, previously abandoned plots for those seasons, like the terrible "CMC become adults" episode, which made no sense so late in the continuity.
Wait, but when Celestia and Luna help with a sun and moon for the first time (that was showing in the episode with Fluttershy playing Celestia"s role, remember?), aren't sisters were unicorns? Or it's just me, having a wrong memory?
(English isn't my native language, I tried my best 😅)
That's what I was thinking. I don't remember the exact episode number but it was of Fluttershy acting out the role of the princesses. They mentioned that because of Celestia and Luna raising and setting the sun and moon respectively, that's how they transformed into alicorns (besides getting their cutie marks).
@@jacquelinezambrano2123 yes! :D I'm glad you understand me. That's why I perceive g4 and g5 like two different universes. It's not continuing, it's... They're just contradicting each other.
7:44 I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL THIS FOR YEARSSS LITERALLY
I was thinking about creating OC's about Celestia and Luna's lost and forgotten Alicorn relatives, like their grandparents or biological cousins
Oh, It will be interesting
Idk why but i kinda miss the old one
Me too 🥺
It would be interesting to learn more of Opaline's Origins and possibly maybe if she's related to Luna and Celestia? in theory of course, but I hope one day that opaline does come back in the near future in G5 and maybe she'll get reform someday.
yeah, and maybe she could find a way to get out of this HORRIBLE and cute Together Tree, since she was selled inside and also lose her cutie mark.
yeah, I hope so.
I'll love to see that
@@ToonTimeEUA Can you make a video about all the creepypastas of MLP
Because I found a MLP creepypasta game called RAINBOW.EXE (AKA Rainbow Adventure)
That's a game that talks about Rainbow Dash doing an adventure but meet SONIC.EXE, and she made a deal with him and she became an .EXE.
And she will try to attack her victimes to transform them into Creepypastas.
And after that she would broke the 4th wall and then the game is over..
BUT, it's isn't over, and other things happen
and your computer will change the background image with the one witch shows Rainbow Dash.exe with her friends becaming creepypastas.
and you could simply delete the files and change the background image, and everything would stop.
That has gore, torture, blood background, jumpscares and horrible stuff.
Fun Facts:
Scootaloo is one of the victims witch is horrible, since she is like her sister.
The levels where the mane 6 were testing are the names of the creepypastas, like cupcakes for example.
I didn't watch all of it, since it scary, but I am not watching for now.
If you want to make a video about creepypastas of MLP, you can, BUT please censor the scenes because it's so scary and has violence that isn't for kids.
@@SouhailAdalyeah I'm with you there, I know opaline doesn't have any redeeming qualities and trapped in the together tree forever but she brought this upon herself when she walked this dark path, but I believe opaline deserves better, maybe one day opaline will come back and apologize to Misty and how she treated her and her friends as well, and possibly she might meet Allura and become friends and sooner or later by become a romantic couple.
@@ToonTimeEUAyeah me too
i think there was no plotholes in g4 there was some but not to the amount of g5
I think in each generation there is always going to be plot holes for some people
G4 was perfect 😭😭
I hope the g5 comics will not come to a end
I hope
i hope they do
Me too 🎉
They will come to an end after The Storm of Zephyr Heights arc 3rd issue
we hope 🥺
Why do these Bronies say G4 is the best generation of MLP when it has so many plot holes? G5 is better it actually answered alot of questions that G4 failed to answer! In my opinion G5 is the more superior generation to G4! And you just prooved it in this video!
LOL, people clearly forgot babyfurshit of 3.5 if they think THIS was the worst generation 🤣
I’m wondering what happened to Celestia, Luna, Cadence and Flurryheart because alicorns live forever
I don't know if alicorns really are immortal, I think at most they live much longer than ordinary ponies
7:46 I don’t think that Twilight & Kadence are fake alicorns. From what I saw in the series about Twilight, she transformed into an alicorn after completing Starswirl’s incomplete spell. And in the realm where Celestia met Twilight, she might have overloaded Twilight’s DNA by pouring a part of her own magic in her which might have caused the change in her. Atleast I think so!!
Just to be clear, something being unexplained doesn’t necessarily make it a “plot hole”. Soft magic systems frequently have large parts of the entire universe unexplained. G4 running out of time to explain every detail is in no way a mark against it; instead, I would examine unfinished character arcs as “flaws” (at least for arguments sake).
The two sisters could have never been born in Equestria because they’re literally on the flag of the nation. They’re essentially one of the first founders of the nation.
I don’t think it was ever supposed to imply that they came from either some faraway or lost civilization of alicorn. Just that they literally couldn’t be born Equestrians given the fact they were crucial to Equestria being founded in the first place.
Them not being born in a nation that didn’t exist at their birth doesn’t necessarily imply they came from somewhere else. It also just really doesn’t feel right. Alicorns have been shown to be the most powerful creatures who all live very very very long lives(Opaline is *ancient* ) yet a nation comprised of them has never stepped in to help Equestria or make itself known? It’s just weird.
I liked it better when Celestia and Luna’s origins were essentially lost to time. They’re ancient forever rulers that predate the kingdom they rule, of course their origins would be shrouded in mystery. When they said Flurry was the first to be born an alicorn, I simply assumed that meant Celestia and Luna did something to earn their wings. They WERE the bearers of the elements of harmony and helped bring peace to the three races. By all accounts Celestia and Luna were heroes. If any ponies would be worthy to be the first alicorns, or the first alicorn in a long while, it’d be them.
The magical dragons are indeed a nice introduced, too bad they picked a bad voice for Spike and the dragons made the stupid mistake of storing their magic in a single stone which conveniently made Opaline's evil plan extra easy. G5 really did try to expand the lore in a positive way, but Make Your Mark really left a bad mark. Hopefully we can see further lore expanded such as the Dracony/Hippodrake Zanthorp.
Yes, I hope so
I don't think the royal sisters were born as alicorn they were in there dna its like puberty when u grow older you just genetically grow wings or horns
Journal of the Two Sisters says otherwise
I just had a dream about mlp and i just had to watch some vids
*hugs Julie*
Awwww thanks 🤩❤️
@@ToonTimeEUA Very welcome mah luv 💕
I seen some of your My Little Pony G4 & G5 theories and they're really good, but I would like to see if you do a video of a theory on the G4 villain chrysalis and the changelings as well, I know there is a backstory to explain how she and her changelings came to be but it would be interesting to learn her origins in the TV show so is it possible you could do a theory video on Chrysalis and the changelings?
but Chrysalis already has an origin in HQs
@@ToonTimeEUA well yes, Chrysalis does have an origin story on the Comics heck even other fans have turn fan made stories about Chrysalis how she became who she is now, but I would like to hear what your theories are on chrysalis, because I think there's more to her than meets the eyes.
Thought it was a bummer that we never got the chance to see her Origins and the changelings on the TV show due to the fact that the writers and Hasbro has never done an actual origin story on the show I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.
@@seandragon9130 Well, perhaps a magical experiment mixing pony and insect biological materials gone wrong? As valid as any other conjecture.
Are you sure?
Nice, I like it.
yaay 🤩
On Spike I agree his hatching was not normal for a dragon. The magic might have modified him in some fashion.
On other alicorns you could read my comments about “why no male alicorns”. It’s speculation but could help in further ideas. Star Swirl being a unicorn could be not true, he himself might be an alicorn but we never see him without his (potentially wings hiding) robes. So we have to take other’s word for this.
When spike went on his dragon seeking quest a large number of the adult dragons seen were four legged. (Doesn’t explains why Spike was still bipedal when matured early by greed though. Maybe he was supported by magic? Explains their ability to fly like for pegasi.) Perhaps some dragons do go quadruped when they get adult sized, or partially anyway. Would be easier on their bodies.
People already commenting before it came out
Ok the alicorn one you are right
Idk if the book(with starwirl) is canon so I cant say anything here but even so yea I can see this being a plothole or just as it is said in g5 that celestia meant IN equestria convieniently(so going by technicality) which is weird phrase from celestia but oh well
The spike and the magic pearl is not a plothole cause it doesnt contradict anything established beforehand
Does spike having a magic breath creates plotholes in g4? No it doesnt
If anything, g5 is the one who creates the plotholes(like the dragon cutie mark) cause it was established that ONLY ponies can have them(or at least according to twilight)
that is more likely a plothole than the spike magic imo
The magic pearl
Again - unexplored detail
Nothing more
And unexplored detail≠ a plothole
You didnt use the best examples aside from alicorn one
Also off the topic
Isnt celestia and cutie mark and how they became alicorns a bit contradictory?
Let me explain
We see in heart warming eve spectacle that unicorn could have lower the sun and moon and they werent alicorns?
So why celestia and luna are one?
This is more of a plothole that your previous two imo
Not a 100% a plothole cause maybe spike didnt explain that one cause he forgot but mine example is better imo(yes it is not related to g5 but I wanted to use an example)
This is not a hate comment
Im just sharing my perspective on the video(and the title)
Pretty sure that multiple unicorns had to exhaust themselves to raise the sun and moon every day while Celestia and Luna are able to do it on their own which is why that’s their cutie marks, it what they are proficient in/their talent. If they were born alicorns then their cutie marks are probably just like how normal cutie marks work, they aren’t alicorns because they can raise the sun and moon as much as Fluttershy isn’t a pegasus because she can talk to animals.
don't worry, it's okay :)
@@plebeychips fair I suppose
As I said it isn't a plothole and there is probably an explanation
And your is the likeliest
Well I enjoyed this because you know what they say "you learn something new every day"
😊
I think the real deason why there are so many plot holes in g4 is because Hasbro and the writers simply didn't want to answer thise unanswered questions out of laziness.
You know, the reason people like you are exactly why people like me have never seen or heard by watching MLP no matter how much they hate the show.
"Worst generation"? Not as long as G3 exists...
why??
@@ToonTimeEUA G3 just didn't have much in the way of compelling characters or good stories.
I really like your videos, but I have to say you use far too many jump cuts. It is very very distracting from what you are trying to say.
I still like G5 but I agree it fixes nothing
Hmm I think they're both good versions, but I love MLP G4. the most
G4 >>>>>>
im just a girl ❤
Me too
@@Alice_1234me yippeee
@@Alice_1234me yippee
I love you they make me happy
Awwww This makes me so happy 🤩
I love you too ❤️
@@ToonTimeEUA ok🩷🩷🩷🩷 thank you you’re gonna make me cry. I am happy.
can you be friends?
Answer The Little gym cutie mark thing on the dragons sparky is a baby ponies don't get their cutie marks when they're first born why would he. And spike is just too old and of the previous generation
G5 ruined the lore and everything that happened in G4
I have no item, about this video. But I have a question for you personally. If it's okay:
1. I don't know why it's bothering me just after seeing your videos.
2. Do you have a WhatsApp account, or Reddit. Or it's okay to ask and answer here?!
3. Do you have some friends, out of your channel. Just an interest. Because you do your videos really often.
4. Do you have actually job, or you 💯 TH-camr?!
OK, first of all, Spike is not a baby. He is a teenager please stop calling him a baby, but this is wrong. I might as well make a video to make it awareness that is spike is not a baby. He’s a teenager stop calling my baby please
no creo que los dragones tuvieran magia desde siempre, sino que esta fue creada por su amistad como menciono spike
2. en los comics de set your sail, la reina cally lilly menciona que muchos artefactos se perdiero y los demas reinos marino cayeron, dando a entender que seaquestria esta completamente devastada y los hipogrifos dejaron de existir o estan reducidos. la razo de esto fue una guerra de la superficie, posiblemente la guerra que advirtio danu al final de los comics de la temporada 10 de la g4. incluso siendo esta guerra la verdadera responsable de la gran division, porque no creo que haya sido opaline, porque discord menciona que despues de que twiligth creo os cristales y desterro a opaline, la paz regreso a equestria.
3. la verdad la ciudad de skyros se lleva insuando desde la g4 por el diario de las dos hermanas, pero debido a la cancelacion de la animacion de la g5 tal vez no volvamos a ver nada de este reino, aunque esto podria ser visto en los comics.
they still upload episodes, but they talk only about "adventures" ( that means it just they live peacefully without any problem and laught)
Also in TYT, everytime that Sparky is for example sleeping, the mane 6 do the cutie face since he is adorable, but in MYM, they don't do that.
MLP TYT is the WORST show of MLP that I saw, for MYM, it isn't bad at all, since it's has adventure more intresting.
G4 is the best! G5 is honestly trash.
None of this makes any sense and your seems more like your filling in plot holes G5 made
What is this gen 5 thing, wasn't it just one movie like that. When did all other things about it came out
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