Dr. Vella, thank you. Just superbly done. I’ve made a point of not watching every hominin discovery vid as I know it’ll all be different in six months. So glad YT put yours in my face. Blessings.
This was a good presentation but it bounced around in time and location a lot. Also some of the Homo Nalide information was incomplete in a biased way. I wonder what his thoughts of the latest revelations are? Including bones in breccia, Fire, charcoal, burial, tool shaped tool, and cave art. The Rising Star Cave is going to change archaeology at a foundational level.
Thanks for your efforts and research with this video. Still, I must note that Lee Berger has added and continues to add inestimably to the body of knowledge here, and in an open way, accessible to all.
Now about what you said about the size of the molars increasing in size the further back you go in the mouth being older form. I have that form. My molars are larger as they go back. Did the Neanderthals also have that form? Do modern people that carry a percentage of N. genes have this as a heritage remnant? I also have the over bite and the shovel shaped incisors. I have found that as I have lost molars that the shearing ability of incisors has aided in eating and hasn't slowed me down that much even though I only have one set of matching molars to grind with. I inherited my mothers large teeth and overbite but my dads small jaw. This required the removal of 4 teeth plus the 4 wisdom teeth to make them fit in my head. It occurred to me that populations with Neanderthal mixtures might have the same problem of teeth larger than their is jaw space. Like the English for example. I would love to see someone make a real study on the teeth then and now and figure out how much of our populations currant teeth shape has come from our Neanderthal ancestors.
My Colleagues: Great summary info but couldn't take the approx. 2 dozen ads. I've never seen so many ads in any anthropology YT video - not even close. It's a shame I can't recommend this video to students. Many cannot afford ad-free YT. The breaks in concentration would be unfair to them.
There is a gorilla in a zoo in the US who has chosen bipedality. Despite being a heavy chested male he does not knuckle walk. I am hoping that when he dies he is examined for how a lifetime of walking bipedally has changed his bones. And if he has had offspring has his preference for bipedalism been shared with them.
Loved this highly compact if somewhat rushed presentation. The worst thing I can say is that I found the female MC voice jarring, disruptive, and annoying. Perhaps it’s a microphone issue. But since she only chimed in a few times, I’ve really nothing to complain about. Way to go! Thankfully Yours, Albert 😊
Yes, there are ape fossils that have been discovered by paleontologists. The fossil record of apes goes back approximately 23 million years, and numerous species of apes have been identified from fossil remains.
There's nothing baffling about it. Ape's dwell in environments that are hot and dense with trees. Most fossils that are I good condition are found in caves, colder environments and in specific sediments. There's nothing baffling about it. And we do have numerous fossils of primates. Notharctus tenebrosus Pierolapithecus Samburupithecus Nacholapithecus Proconsul africanus Kenyapithecus wickeri Danuvius guggenmosi I highly recommend you Google "The Primate Fossil Record" by Walter Carl Hartwig (Cambridge University Press) released 2002 with already an abundance of detailed fossils. Add twenty further years and you might have to admit that you were incorrect with your comment....😂
I stopped listened at 1:43:12 when I was too disgusted by your spoken disgust of Lee Berger. At least be unbiased. He and John Hawks always leave digs partially incomplete for the next gen to find. You could have at least mentioned why Berger searched for caves. Maybe you don't know? He was fired & replaced when his university gave up on finding fossils. I pick Berger over Tim White any day.
My “religion” is truth. If it’s not true, I don’t want any part of it. The geology that we have of a number of mega sequences of consecutive water deposited sediment layers over a mile deep with fossils in them around the world on every continent necessitates a global flood catastrophe. I know that hurts the belief of every other made up alternate narrative. It just happens to be a fact that we are all the descendants of those who stepped off of the Ark in the area around Mesopotamia. You can’t argue with known human history or ancient calendars going back only 5,000 years. The ancient civilizations are all descended from Noah who had sixteen grandsons that became the sixteen ancient the civilizations each with their own paternal haplogroup lineage. The Bible is the only text that outlines the following Table of Nations. 1) Tubal Italy K, 2) Javan Greek sea people T, 3) Tiras Thracians L, 4) Magog Asian O, 5) Meshek Siberians N, 6) Madai Medes Q, 7) Gomer Europeans R, 8) Arphaxad Arabs Hebrews I&J, 9) Elam Elamites H, 10) Asshur Assyrians G, 11) Aram Arameans F 12) Lud Lydians F2, 13) Cush Cushites A B & C. 14) Phut early Phoenicians E1, 15) Canaan Canaanites E2, 16) Mitzrayim Egyptians E3, D is likely the Sinite tribe from Canaan. C is the descendants of Nimrod since they can’t possibly be from anyone else. Neanderthals are Japhethites and Denisovans are a mix of Japhethites and Hamites, not Semitic. It shows up on DNA maps and charts. Every grandson of Noah and their descendants have their own paternal Y chromosome haplogroup lineage! I can name all sixteen of them like I just did and give you each of their haplogroups! The evolutionary out of Africa claim is exactly backwards since the *oldest* progenitor is Japheth the ancestor of Eurasians then the Semitic populations of Shem and then the Hamitic African is the youngest progenitor with their eldest sons connecting the three different families descended from the three sons of Noah. It took me a while to understand that the evolutionary claim is assuming that SNP markers are being gained forming the stair steps out of Africa when *the reality is* that the original SNP markers cited are in fact being lost forming the opposite stair steps out of West Asia as known human history shows. The stair step out of Africa claim has to be addressed because the SNP markers are *real* evidence but the evolutionary assumption is exactly backwards. The correct view requires that the older most original genomes of the Japhethites be connected to the Semitics by way of the eldest son of Shem which is Arphaxad (IJ). Arphaxad’s descendants can share the (IJK) SNP marker with the descendants of his uncle Japheth while the descendants of his younger brothers do not share that same (IJK) SNP. You have to root the tree with Japheth the oldest son of Noah and then the oldest son of Shem (IJ Arphaxad) and then Elam and then Asshur and then the youngest brothers Aram and Lud. So you have to begin with the *most original* Y chromosome of Noah’s oldest son Japheth and then the changes occur in the people who were born later. It’s not necessarily a stair step of descendency. It’s changes in the Y chromosome with time. *Arphaxad isn’t descended from Japheth.* He just shares a marker with his uncle that his father used to have when he was born. Shem then lost the marker when Arphaxad’s younger brothers were born. The descendants of Shem are then connected to the descendants of Ham by way of Nimrod the King (C) the the eldest son of Cush who is the eldest son of Ham. So the Hamitic CF (xD&E) paternal haplogroup SNP marker was lost to the *odd ones out* and less original younger brothers and cousins verifying the Table of Nations outlined in Genesis.💥 Learn the Bible before trying to learn anything else. It’s also noteworthy that the D paternal haplogroup lines up with the E2 haplogroup of Canaan which is his son’s tribe of Sinim the Biblical namesake of China. So the only Hamitic haplogroups outside of Africa are the C of Nimrod and the D of the Canaanite tribe of Sinim which is still there in Andaman, Tibetan, Mongolian, Chinese and Japanese areas today.
Excellent presentation, worth watching several times.
Excellent information
Dr. Vella, thank you. Just superbly done. I’ve made a point of not watching every hominin discovery vid as I know it’ll all be different in six months. So glad YT put yours in my face. Blessings.
Very clear and thorough.
Nice job.
Fantastic sir
Thanks for posting this update...fascinating braided stream. De Nile is more than a river in Egypt.
The most instructive presentation of these topics I've yet stumbled across - thank you!
Thank you for this clear presentation
This was a GREAT presentation. Thank you very much for your hard work and EXCELLENT job.
Wow. I’m a docent at AMNH IN NYC. thank you. Wonderful talk. Sorry you skipped slides. I wanted to hear everything. Bravo
I'm a docent at CAS in SF. See www.charlesjvellaphd.com/Olli%20Human%20Evolution/Olli%20Human%20Evolution%20Class%202024.htm
Charlie
@@CharlieVella thanks for this wonderful resource.
Excellent, extremely informative presentation. Hope to see more human paleontology YT videos from you.
I gotta re-view this.
Anyone else catch that slide with the scapula specimen labeled ‘spatula’? Anyways…fascinating discoveries all.
Maybe after serving as a scapula it was put to use as a spatula???
Do you have a time stamp to the part of the video you are referring to ?
Autocorrect hits all of us eventuality.
Outstanding summary 👍
Wow, that was amazing. I love that you share what you find so freely - I find that discovery is no fun without people to share with!
Great overview. Yeah, it seems human evolution was as complicated as everybody else's.
This was a good presentation but it bounced around in time and location a lot. Also some of the Homo Nalide information was incomplete in a biased way. I wonder what his thoughts of the latest revelations are? Including bones in breccia, Fire, charcoal, burial, tool shaped tool, and cave art. The Rising Star Cave is going to change archaeology at a foundational level.
It was all faked
Wow!
Thanks for your efforts and research with this video. Still, I must note that Lee Berger has added and continues to add inestimably to the body of knowledge here, and in an open way, accessible to all.
Nah, he was not at all harsh, merely observational. I applaud his courage to speak his truth without self-censoring. -Albert
Current form, not final @1:57
More data … less clarity … got any suggestions on how to end war ???
Now about what you said about the size of the molars increasing in size the further back you go in the mouth being older form. I have that form. My molars are larger as they go back. Did the Neanderthals also have that form? Do modern people that carry a percentage of N. genes have this as a heritage remnant? I also have the over bite and the shovel shaped incisors. I have found that as I have lost molars that the shearing ability of incisors has aided in eating and hasn't slowed me down that much even though I only have one set of matching molars to grind with. I inherited my mothers large teeth and overbite but my dads small jaw. This required the removal of 4 teeth plus the 4 wisdom teeth to make them fit in my head. It occurred to me that populations with Neanderthal mixtures might have the same problem of teeth larger than their is jaw space. Like the English for example. I would love to see someone make a real study on the teeth then and now and figure out how much of our populations currant teeth shape has come from our Neanderthal ancestors.
My Colleagues: Great summary info but couldn't take the approx. 2 dozen ads. I've never seen so many ads in any anthropology YT video - not even close. It's a shame I can't recommend this video to students. Many cannot afford ad-free YT. The breaks in concentration would be unfair to them.
pay for no ads.
Where are the other 2 parts? =(
There is a gorilla in a zoo in the US who has chosen bipedality. Despite being a heavy chested male he does not knuckle walk. I am hoping that when he dies he is examined for how a lifetime of walking bipedally has changed his bones. And if he has had offspring has his preference for bipedalism been shared with them.
He is just imitating the humans he sees
1:46:55 the beginning of the insertion of Neanderthal being the first homo sapiens in north Morocco...smh!!!
WTF with letting your program be polluted by interminable advertisements?
pay for no ads.
The footprints at site A at Laetoli is much more likely to be afarensis. And naledi is NOT in the human lineage, it is just another version of Lucy
Loved this highly compact if somewhat rushed presentation. The worst thing I can say is that I found the female MC voice jarring, disruptive, and annoying. Perhaps it’s a microphone issue. But since she only chimed in a few times, I’ve really nothing to complain about. Way to go! Thankfully Yours, Albert 😊
I mean...at least give a list of participants and how to access their work.
There were book recommendations at the begining.
It's baffling to me that despite all the environmental obstacles, we cannot find any ape fossils?
Yes, there are ape fossils that have been discovered by paleontologists. The fossil record of apes goes back approximately 23 million years, and numerous species of apes have been identified from fossil remains.
There's nothing baffling about it. Ape's dwell in environments that are hot and dense with trees. Most fossils that are I good condition are found in caves, colder environments and in specific sediments.
There's nothing baffling about it. And we do have numerous fossils of primates.
Notharctus tenebrosus
Pierolapithecus
Samburupithecus
Nacholapithecus
Proconsul africanus
Kenyapithecus wickeri
Danuvius guggenmosi
I highly recommend you Google "The Primate Fossil Record" by Walter Carl Hartwig (Cambridge University Press) released 2002 with already an abundance of detailed fossils. Add twenty further years and you might have to admit that you were incorrect with your comment....😂
Whut?
I stopped listened at 1:43:12 when I was too disgusted by your spoken disgust of Lee Berger. At least be unbiased. He and John Hawks always leave digs partially incomplete for the next gen to find. You could have at least mentioned why Berger searched for caves. Maybe you don't know? He was fired & replaced when his university gave up on finding fossils. I pick Berger over Tim White any day.
My “religion” is truth. If it’s not true, I don’t want any part of it. The geology that we have of a number of mega sequences of consecutive water deposited sediment layers over a mile deep with fossils in them around the world on every continent necessitates a global flood catastrophe. I know that hurts the belief of every other made up alternate narrative. It just happens to be a fact that we are all the descendants of those who stepped off of the Ark in the area around Mesopotamia.
You can’t argue with known human history or ancient calendars going back only 5,000 years. The ancient civilizations are all descended from Noah who had sixteen grandsons that became the sixteen ancient the civilizations each with their own paternal haplogroup lineage. The Bible is the only text that outlines the following Table of Nations.
1) Tubal Italy K,
2) Javan Greek sea people T,
3) Tiras Thracians L,
4) Magog Asian O,
5) Meshek Siberians N,
6) Madai Medes Q,
7) Gomer Europeans R,
8) Arphaxad Arabs Hebrews I&J,
9) Elam Elamites H,
10) Asshur Assyrians G,
11) Aram Arameans F
12) Lud Lydians F2,
13) Cush Cushites A B & C.
14) Phut early Phoenicians E1,
15) Canaan Canaanites E2,
16) Mitzrayim Egyptians E3,
D is likely the Sinite tribe from Canaan.
C is the descendants of Nimrod since they can’t possibly be from anyone else.
Neanderthals are Japhethites and Denisovans are a mix of Japhethites and Hamites, not Semitic. It shows up on DNA maps and charts. Every grandson of Noah and their descendants have their own paternal Y chromosome haplogroup lineage! I can name all sixteen of them like I just did and give you each of their haplogroups!
The evolutionary out of Africa claim is exactly backwards since the *oldest* progenitor is Japheth the ancestor of Eurasians then the Semitic populations of Shem and then the Hamitic African is the youngest progenitor with their eldest sons connecting the three different families descended from the three sons of Noah.
It took me a while to understand that the evolutionary claim is assuming that SNP markers are being gained forming the stair steps out of Africa when *the reality is* that the original SNP markers cited are in fact being lost forming the opposite stair steps out of West Asia as known human history shows.
The stair step out of Africa claim has to be addressed because the SNP markers are *real* evidence but the evolutionary assumption is exactly backwards.
The correct view requires that the older most original genomes of the Japhethites be connected to the Semitics by way of the eldest son of Shem which is Arphaxad (IJ). Arphaxad’s descendants can share the (IJK) SNP marker with the descendants of his uncle Japheth while the descendants of his younger brothers do not share that same (IJK) SNP.
You have to root the tree with Japheth the oldest son of Noah and then the oldest son of Shem (IJ Arphaxad) and then Elam and then Asshur and then the youngest brothers Aram and Lud. So you have to begin with the *most original* Y chromosome of Noah’s oldest son Japheth and then the changes occur in the people who were born later. It’s not necessarily a stair step of descendency. It’s changes in the Y chromosome with time. *Arphaxad isn’t descended from Japheth.* He just shares a marker with his uncle that his father used to have when he was born. Shem then lost the marker when Arphaxad’s younger brothers were born.
The descendants of Shem are then connected to the descendants of Ham by way of Nimrod the King (C) the the eldest son of Cush who is the eldest son of Ham. So the Hamitic CF (xD&E) paternal haplogroup SNP marker was lost to the *odd ones out* and less original younger brothers and cousins verifying the Table of Nations outlined in Genesis.💥 Learn the Bible before trying to learn anything else.
It’s also noteworthy that the D paternal haplogroup lines up with the E2 haplogroup of Canaan which is his son’s tribe of Sinim the Biblical namesake of China. So the only Hamitic haplogroups outside of Africa are the C of Nimrod and the D of the Canaanite tribe of Sinim which is still there in Andaman, Tibetan, Mongolian, Chinese and Japanese areas today.
Fascinating but my goodness what a spiteful speaker.
I love TH-cam. (Or I should say, I love the stuff you can find on YT?) I am thinking about pitching my television. Fascinating stuff. 👍🏼🫡