Thanks for putting this together! One thing - your chart where at 6:30 is a little confusing when you just say "1" instead of "1 on 1." I had to go to wowhead to make sure I was doing that part right. Really appreciate this!
@@dhiegorockblm I had the same question, I had number 3, 7 rats and it said 1. The answer is you put 1 statue on pad 1. Should be the same for you, if it says only 7 - 7 statues on 7
I think the advice to reset can create a bug, as mentioned below. I did it, then had no rats whatsoever. I unlocked it by putting a statue on the P4 and submitted. It worked and I had no catacomb rats for the whole puzzle!
I dont understand. You said in STEP4: "For the third lock I had 7 rats, so I need 1 statue on pad 7". But in the table in case of 7 rats it says just 1. How did you know that it should be 1 statue on 7th pad? How can I be sure that in my case of 8 rats for 3rd lock I need 4 objects on 7th pad? Or what pad? Or I should refer to the table with the number 4 and use its mapping? Could you please explain?
So, by using the table at 06:20 you can see that for the first lock, if you have 7 rats you need to put 1 statue on pad 7. Then you need to submit, and do the same for the second lock. And here you need to refer to the second column in the table.
@@thraungaming824 Maybe I explained badly. I got the sequence, but I have question about 3rd table. What should I do in case of 8 rats using 3rd table? It says just 4.
Heres Something I found. Remember the hand written note found under the table in the last room with the tiles that can hurt you from pyre 3? It reads "REMINDER TO SELF, SECRET PASSWORD IS 466478" If you return to the rabbit hole where you fought Ratts to make the key that started all this, and use the starry eyed goggles, there a new platform that appears, with one of the consoles from pyre 3 and a new chest thats locked... Used the relic of crystal connections to get up there, and the password does not unlock the chest. BUT, I did hear a horn like when you get to the 2nd floor in the catacombs in Kara. Nothing in the room changed. However, there is also an eye of the void there. Clicking it alone does nothing, but after putting in the code and then clicking the eye, it teleported me to the riggers cove in Tanaris. Oh, eating the cake of death does nothing special but kill you, for now, figured id try it if theres something there special while ur a ghost, nothing.
If you go to the room behind Enigmatic Door in the felcycle room that we just unlocked by this, i can see new small orb on the 10th pillar (the Red Button one)
i keep getting to 3 or 4 and the no matter the chart it all resets back to step one, about to throw my computer out of my window, any advice? maybe this chart isnt completed??
ok. to begin slick on EM/begin/submit Rd 1 begin kill rats set stutes click submit. Got the Mglass. Round two: clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked submit. Round 3 Clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked on submit got zapped. why I have done this like 5 times and keep getting zapped on the 3rd round. The statues are in the right place i killed all the rats and I mean ALL the rats. Why do I get zapped on the 3rd round?
Hey thanks for the video. I only don't understand what should be done, for example if on my 3rd run I have 7 rats. On your table it just says 1, no number oof statues mentioned. What does it mean?
it opened the vault door and theres a portal that reacts to the torch but i have no idea what to do now, also with the goggles on the owel chest statue thing is glowing but its still locked
bro u rly mess me up with this using 7 graphs for the rats I mean the numbers in blue from 1-7 ? which one should I follow cause clearly this doesnt work for me . On my machine it says I have 3 locked mechanisms
I only had to do 3 locks for "8 O'Clock - Rats" and then I've got "The great lock has been released" in the chat and the "the contraption appears inert all mechanisms are unlocked" message in the enigma machine. I've got the orb and the door opened which I didn't notice at first as I was busy counting next pack of rats and then confused why I can't start the machine. Not sure why is that so, but thought to mention.
You remove the statues from the previous pad, then kill/count the normal “Rats” don’t count the catacomb ones. Then once you’ve placed your statues on the new pad, submit and do it again, until all the locks have been unlocked.
In the chart spaces which don’t specify how many statues on a pad, is it only 1 statue for those? Also, Thank you for putting these guides out there for people to try and understand.
I once got the message that a mechanism is unlocked but then I made a mistake. When I start again do I do it from table 1? Also, after leaving the catacomb and re-entering I hit Start and then Submitand it electrocutes me...
@@thraungaming824 Please I hope you're able to answer this. I enter the dungeon after resetting. I clear the non important rats, then I hit Begin. Nothing happens. No rats. So I do what others are saying and just put a random statue or submit and fail then Begin again. Once I do that then the rats appear. But when I start from lock 1, it fails every time even with the right statue. What do I do since failing one time you said to reset the instance but I'm forced to fail first to get rats to appear
@alexmoreno4310 honestly I'm not sure why this bug is happening. When I did it this morning I didn't have this issue, and always had rats even after resetting the instance..
I think that Bejeweled game will be in a future step, for this step that’s not required, the only thing we have to do for this is place the #of statues on each pad in accordance with how many Rats were counted each time. The statue will follow you through the gate with the teleport item.
the third lock keeps failing over and over. cant be me, i go over the whole place multiple times just to see if there are more rats or catacombs rats appearing out of no where.
There's a weak aura that has been created to help with the rat counting and the indicating of which solution you should have. Apprently I'm not allowed to link it. Better to triple check on your rat kills, I just failed at the 6th lock. Don't forget to check the stairs and they sometimes clip through walls. And now I'm stuck myself as I can't open up the door to the arcane room. I'm assuming the Arcane Device with the bejeweled game has something to do with it ?
Ok I unlocked it by putting a statue on a mechanism and submit, it seems to reset the thing but that does not count as an unlock. Strange then I didn't had catacomb rats for the whole puzzle (which is not bad)!
How the F was this solved? The amount of variables and time to try each one make this a mammoth task even for a brute forcing community! Anything to do with all those quests unflagged / flagged messages in your chat log?
I was in the discord last night. The guy that solved it had a spreadsheet where he, based on the rat theory, mapped each pressure plate to Success or Fail depending on nr of existing rats and statues needed. After a while a pattern emerged and then he solved it.
@@samuelllooking at the table there does appear to be a pattern. Just the amount of variables, plus time spent dragging statues and resetting the instance must have made it inordinately time consuming for one person to come up with. That they did it in an evening.. I think with these secrets I’m more interested in how things are solved, and more so what the in game content is in terms of clues and puzzles. Brute forcing it, however that s done, seems like the result of bad puzzle design
It seems like the puzzle no longer works as expected because the number of locks has changed from 7 to 3. This adjustment creates confusion since the original solution and table are based on the 7-lock sequence. Now, it's unclear whether we should start from the last three columns (5/7 → 6/7 → 7/7) or if there’s a completely new approach required for the 3-lock variation. If anyone has successfully completed the puzzle under these new conditions, please share your insights! This change makes it hard to determine the correct starting point or sequence.
Macro for the rats. I wish there was a addon/macro to count them each round /target Rat /run SetRaidTarget("target",8) /cleartarget [help] /stopmacro [noexists][dead] /ping [@target]
@ I did not know that the wicker pup couldn’t die and be resurrected during the battle or it would fail. I was using him in position number one and letting him die before switching pets so I kept winning and winning and winning and I wouldn’t get the quest. It took me forever to figure it out.
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Thanks for putting this together!
One thing - your chart where at 6:30 is a little confusing when you just say "1" instead of "1 on 1." I had to go to wowhead to make sure I was doing that part right.
Really appreciate this!
got to number 3, had 9 rats. Didnt know how many statues to put on pad 7 so I tried one statue. Not the answer. Is this chart incomplete?
Same question
@@dhiegorockblm I had the same question, I had number 3, 7 rats and it said 1. The answer is you put 1 statue on pad 1. Should be the same for you, if it says only 7 - 7 statues on 7
I only show 3 locked mechanisms how am I supposed to read the chart, so I know what pad I need to cover I didn't start with 7 locked only 3
Very helpful..thanks! getting closer n closer! see ya on the next.
I think the advice to reset can create a bug, as mentioned below. I did it, then had no rats whatsoever. I unlocked it by putting a statue on the P4 and submitted. It worked and I had no catacomb rats for the whole puzzle!
@@leaverpool8059 weird.. I didn't get that but even after reset many times the catacombes
i got that too
I dont understand. You said in STEP4: "For the third lock I had 7 rats, so I need 1 statue on pad 7". But in the table in case of 7 rats it says just 1. How did you know that it should be 1 statue on 7th pad? How can I be sure that in my case of 8 rats for 3rd lock I need 4 objects on 7th pad? Or what pad? Or I should refer to the table with the number 4 and use its mapping?
Could you please explain?
So, by using the table at 06:20 you can see that for the first lock, if you have 7 rats you need to put 1 statue on pad 7. Then you need to submit, and do the same for the second lock. And here you need to refer to the second column in the table.
@@thraungaming824 Maybe I explained badly.
I got the sequence, but I have question about 3rd table.
What should I do in case of 8 rats using 3rd table? It says just 4.
Well. Table in this video is incomplete. But there are full tables on internet already, I used them and solved the puzzle.
Lock#4: 7 rats killed = 2 statue on pad#1. (the single number represents 1 statue on pad#)
Has there been no other leads on what the next parts are? Seems it's been awhile since next orbs have been figured out
Heres Something I found. Remember the hand written note found under the table in the last room with the tiles that can hurt you from pyre 3? It reads "REMINDER TO SELF, SECRET PASSWORD IS 466478" If you return to the rabbit hole where you fought Ratts to make the key that started all this, and use the starry eyed goggles, there a new platform that appears, with one of the consoles from pyre 3 and a new chest thats locked... Used the relic of crystal connections to get up there, and the password does not unlock the chest. BUT, I did hear a horn like when you get to the 2nd floor in the catacombs in Kara. Nothing in the room changed. However, there is also an eye of the void there. Clicking it alone does nothing, but after putting in the code and then clicking the eye, it teleported me to the riggers cove in Tanaris. Oh, eating the cake of death does nothing special but kill you, for now, figured id try it if theres something there special while ur a ghost, nothing.
If you go to the room behind Enigmatic Door in the felcycle room that we just unlocked by this, i can see new small orb on the 10th pillar (the Red Button one)
but it disapears when I leave the room
Thanks for this. @Thraun Gaming are there no 9 Oclock guides out yet? I havent seen any yet. :(
i keep getting to 3 or 4 and the no matter the chart it all resets back to step one, about to throw my computer out of my window, any advice? maybe this chart isnt completed??
Did you find a solution? Mine is on the 3rd mechanism and fails every time regardless of which combination I'm on.
Figured out my issue... do NOT click 'BEGIN' again after you initially start it. I was doing it after every submit and it messes up your counters.
@@V3racious i just gave up, put in a bug report, doubt blizz will answer
ok. to begin slick on EM/begin/submit Rd 1 begin kill rats set stutes click submit. Got the Mglass. Round two: clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked submit. Round 3 Clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked on submit got zapped. why I have done this like 5 times and keep getting zapped on the 3rd round. The statues are in the right place i killed all the rats and I mean ALL the rats. Why do I get zapped on the 3rd round?
Hey thanks for the video. I only don't understand what should be done, for example if on my 3rd run I have 7 rats. On your table it just says 1, no number oof statues mentioned. What does it mean?
It means one statue on the pad number 1
@thraungamingfr7464 Thanks very much for the help again!
lock 1: 7 rats killed = 1 statue on pad #7
/tar the rats and look for the target on minimap. Easy. No need to reset the instance either, rats respawn after failure.
Btw this puzzle open the big circular door in the back of the Incognitro mount, the one with the bell.
it opened the vault door and theres a portal that reacts to the torch but i have no idea what to do now, also with the goggles on the owel chest statue thing is glowing but its still locked
bro u rly mess me up with this using 7 graphs for the rats I mean the numbers in blue from 1-7 ? which one should I follow cause clearly this doesnt work for me . On my machine it says I have 3 locked mechanisms
use a macro /tar rat to find all rats, it helped me a lot
I only had to do 3 locks for "8 O'Clock - Rats" and then I've got "The great lock has been released" in the chat and the "the contraption appears inert all mechanisms are unlocked" message in the enigma machine. I've got the orb and the door opened which I didn't notice at first as I was busy counting next pack of rats and then confused why I can't start the machine. Not sure why is that so, but thought to mention.
ye me too. only had to do 3 to complete it
Same to me. Only three locks and done :)
is it normal that i have only 1 ltl orb and u have 2 at the ending ?
know somebody whats going on with orb 9 ?
When i have unlocked 1 of 7, what do i do? felt like u missed saying somethings
You remove the statues from the previous pad, then kill/count the normal “Rats” don’t count the catacomb ones. Then once you’ve placed your statues on the new pad, submit and do it again, until all the locks have been unlocked.
So the same time i submit to unlock the first lock i get new rats?
@@TheJovinski correct
In the chart spaces which don’t specify how many statues on a pad, is it only 1 statue for those?
Also, Thank you for putting these guides out there for people to try and understand.
Yes, it's only one statue :)
I once got the message that a mechanism is unlocked but then I made a mistake. When I start again do I do it from table 1? Also, after leaving the catacomb and re-entering I hit Start and then Submitand it electrocutes me...
I you fail you need to exit and reset the instance, by clicking on reset all instances
Be a BM Hunter for this! Sending your pets on the pads is a fast +2 so you have to have only 1 statue next to you ;)
Ohhh this is big brain power
@@beerfish109 they should not despawn, because you never should be too much away, but check if your pets are up before you press enter^^
chaotic ,and your accent is rly very funny ;-)
only had 3 locks to open, don't know why but sweet!
Do I have to keep clicking on Begin after each lock? Or after Submit and a lock opens just move on to the next lock and submit again when done?
@@alexmoreno4310 you don't need to click on begin after you do it at the beginning. So you're correct, just move on to the next one :)
@@thraungaming824 Please I hope you're able to answer this. I enter the dungeon after resetting. I clear the non important rats, then I hit Begin. Nothing happens. No rats. So I do what others are saying and just put a random statue or submit and fail then Begin again. Once I do that then the rats appear. But when I start from lock 1, it fails every time even with the right statue. What do I do since failing one time you said to reset the instance but I'm forced to fail first to get rats to appear
@alexmoreno4310 honestly I'm not sure why this bug is happening. When I did it this morning I didn't have this issue, and always had rats even after resetting the instance..
hi, how do you open the room that gets to pad 3? its the bejewelled game but i'm not sure what i'm aiming to do. Thanks!
You use the teleport item in your bags from one of the previous orbs. You click on the crystal inside and use the teleport item to get in and out
As far as the game inside not sure which order has to be done to open the room
I think that Bejeweled game will be in a future step, for this step that’s not required, the only thing we have to do for this is place the #of statues on each pad in accordance with how many Rats were counted each time. The statue will follow you through the gate with the teleport item.
@@ryanburden8060 cant get out ?
@@Bourrega how to get out of that room?
What to do at Lock 3 with 9 Rats? I don't get it... Table says Pad 7. But how many statue on it?
Only 1! When theres just a number it means you need to just put one statue on that specific pad
the table is incomplete x.x what is 6 rats in phase 4 ?
the third lock keeps failing over and over. cant be me, i go over the whole place multiple times just to see if there are more rats or catacombs rats appearing out of no where.
how can i get out of path 3 Room??? i can use teleport in, but after placing the statue, i cannot go out....
Having the same issue, sadly.
There's a weak aura that has been created to help with the rat counting and the indicating of which solution you should have. Apprently I'm not allowed to link it. Better to triple check on your rat kills, I just failed at the 6th lock. Don't forget to check the stairs and they sometimes clip through walls.
And now I'm stuck myself as I can't open up the door to the arcane room. I'm assuming the Arcane Device with the bejeweled game has something to do with it ?
No, you just need to use the humming crystal on top of the door
@thraungaming824 that would be to get in and out of the room yeah, but I can't get one of the statues in
@@beerfish109 with a statue following you, use the crystal to pot in. the statue follows thru gate
@@liquido85 I'll try again so, didn't work for me when I tried earlier
So if im on step 3 and i got 9 rats but it just says 7 under pads.. wth does that mean ? what am i missing here ?
It means place one statue on pad 7
You talked about a map with numbers on it, but didn't add it to the video.
Does anyone know why Im not seeing any regular rats appear? I reset the instance. I click begin and nothing appears just the rats we dont need
Click begin and then follow it with an initial submit. That will start round 1
if you have no rats but only catacomb rats?
Same issue here...
@@leaverpool8059 i have solved the issue by selecting "submit" after starting the enigma machine. it make the rat spawn
Same here, I have reset the instance many times and they still do not spawn.
Ok I unlocked it by putting a statue on a mechanism and submit, it seems to reset the thing but that does not count as an unlock. Strange then I didn't had catacomb rats for the whole puzzle (which is not bad)!
did you pull on the enigma mashine "begin" and "submit" to relise the rats?
How the F was this solved? The amount of variables and time to try each one make this a mammoth task even for a brute forcing community! Anything to do with all those quests unflagged / flagged messages in your chat log?
Most likely brute force
data from ingame files probly
Never underestimate the power of 10 thousand autistic people with nothing to do and a discord server to organize their efforts.
I was in the discord last night. The guy that solved it had a spreadsheet where he, based on the rat theory, mapped each pressure plate to Success or Fail depending on nr of existing rats and statues needed. After a while a pattern emerged and then he solved it.
@@samuelllooking at the table there does appear to be a pattern. Just the amount of variables, plus time spent dragging statues and resetting the instance must have made it inordinately time consuming for one person to come up with. That they did it in an evening..
I think with these secrets I’m more interested in how things are solved, and more so what the in game content is in terms of clues and puzzles. Brute forcing it, however that s done, seems like the result of bad puzzle design
It seems like the puzzle no longer works as expected because the number of locks has changed from 7 to 3. This adjustment creates confusion since the original solution and table are based on the 7-lock sequence. Now, it's unclear whether we should start from the last three columns (5/7 → 6/7 → 7/7) or if there’s a completely new approach required for the 3-lock variation.
If anyone has successfully completed the puzzle under these new conditions, please share your insights! This change makes it hard to determine the correct starting point or sequence.
That’s where I’m stuck at right now
When is 9th comingg
Macro for the rats. I wish there was a addon/macro to count them each round
/target Rat
/run SetRaidTarget("target",8)
/cleartarget [help]
/stopmacro [noexists][dead]
/ping [@target]
At the final lock I got zipped for 30 mil... And had to start all over... WTF... And the rats were 11...
same here, not the 11 rats but being at the last step and dying, about ready to contact blizzard about this shit
Hey man ı found one clue ı need to send a video can you give me some dc link?
thraun8550 on DC. The link of the secret finding community is: discord.gg/wowsecrets
"Not to difficult" my ass the damn cata comb rats keep going over pressure plates
I just kept killing them
I’m on 7, and the pet battle almost made me lose my mind.
Why :D
@ I did not know that the wicker pup couldn’t die and be resurrected during the battle or it would fail. I was using him in position number one and letting him die before switching pets so I kept winning and winning and winning and I wouldn’t get the quest. It took me forever to figure it out.
where is 9 O'clock ?
@@WorldsMostWantedNPC not resolved yet
This seems so horrible, imagine doin 6 and then failing on one and have to do it all over..
That was me, a catacomb rat went over the pressure plate just when went to submit. Got zapped and died
For me too. That Sucks 1 Hour lost for this.
Pls update orb 9
No way all of you have the toy from Nzoth , the all seen eye, or something like that . That was already the killer for me .
you don't need that toy, just wait for someone who has it then all people within 10 yards will aslo get secret as complete
okay did it but now what?
@@CarlosSpicyweiner-iv8mq there's a full guide available now with orb 9 at the end :)
1st
WASTE time mount ever trash
by most challenging what Josh really means it'll be the most expensive, most boring part that requires items that only 5% of the playerbase has