Sun and Moon are great games, Lillie's story is so engaging and Team Skull are my absolute favourite "evil" team. Like of course they're dumb and not scary, they're a bunch of kids that fell through the cracks trying to find community.
I wish there will be a Sun and Moon remake after Legends Z-A happens and also what if new Alola form Pokemon can be in the new Sun and Moon remake a new Z moves for different Pokemon
Sun and moon are great depsite the really long tutorial and cutscenes. Arguably has the best story in any pokemon game as well . Plus regional variants were peak
Pokemon sun and moon are not bad games, people just don't like the different things they decided to go with, and z moves were not bad not as popular as mega evolution. I genuinely enjoy it, I just wish people feel the same way. Alola is really a unique region and the alolan forms look great. Thanks for the video 😊 ❤
Pokemon Ultra Sun and Pokemon Ultra Moon are the last Nintendo 3Ds games that I ever played before replace with Nintendo Switch and they're a lot better than the previous versions of Pokemon Sun/Moon because there's a lot of features in the games like Festival Plaza, Poké Pelago, Rotom Dex Upgrades, Mantine Surf, Alola Photo Club, Reverse World and the new improved storylines. Also my favourites Alola starter Pokemon is Popplio because it evolved into Brionne and then evolved into Primarina as it looks more of a female rather than a male which is why I always picked Popplio as my starter Pokemon in four games version as it suit for a female trainer like me.
I actually didn't like the removal of HMs. I kinda think it made sense to have a party member who wasn't 100% focused on combat. Each region tended to have a mammalian Pokemon caught early that we kept around for use as an HM mule. Most of us probably wouldn't have used a Linoone, Bibarel or Furret if they hadn't made such great HM mules. Instead they became consistent, valued party members. Likewise each region had a regional 3 evolution bird that we kept around knowing we'd need fly later. Did you keep Youngoos & Pikipek with you or did you just box them? Instead of removing them entirely I wish they had just made them better in combat. Surf & fly were decent moves & strength was at least usable. Cut & rock smash needed buffs. Up both of their damage maybe & maybe make cut steel type with an elevated crit rate or something.
This was my first pair of pokemon games as a kid after watching the shows and collecting the cards for ages. I got it on release and remember watching the pokemom show while playing it. It was just simple enough for younger me to enjoy without getting lost once and now I'm older and can appreciate the more difficult ones. I know they weren't the best games but I still love em
Regional variants are indeed great. So great in fact that every game after gen 7 have regional variants in some way, Sword and shield had galarian forms and regional evolutions, legend arceus had some great hisuian forms, scarlet and violet had Paldea forms regional fakes and paradox forms. Pokemon legends ZA will probably also have regional variants so I'm curious what they will do with them this time, probably regional mega evolutions
@@vanessasandoval96 I don't know, Black and White hasn't gotten a remake and because Gen 7 is already a 3D game, the chance is small. but I think there is a good chance that every region will one day get a legends game. So a legends sun and moon will probably get a lot of new regional variants
It was the best game since BW story wise, it was the best looking GF Pokemon game ever at that point and even past it with SWSH, the story was unique and they did something new with the island trial. The music is peak really I can name so many reasons why it’s so good. People like to just lump all the 3DS games as bad so they include even this really good one
In retrospect these games were not all that bad, although USUM are the superior versions. Only thing that I didn’t like is that every game starting with this going forward is the removal of the National Dex. These games also came at a point in my life where there was a lot of change going on so I wasn’t able to enjoy them as much I wanted to. Personally I enjoyed the Totem battles and I really liked the idea of us defending our Champion title whenever you visit the Elite Four
3:50 She idolizes Ultra Beasts and fuses herself with power without any consciousness for her family and herself. This is why as a casual player, anyone's authorized to use every Z-moves against any Aether Foundation Employees and Faba and Lusamine before that and against some Team Skull too and Guzma during Last Resort.
Gen. 7 is an interesting case. They had some things changes, yet the formulaic is still the same. It had many good parts, but also has some bad parts that people exaggerated on to much. The original versions were fine enough. But they retcon it with an enhanced version rather than following the story with an sequel. Neatless to say, it's probably the most diversive gen of them all. Even more so than Gen. 5 was. But overall, I quite enjoy both Sun & Moon and USUM. There not the best game of the series. But there pretty decent games and certainly better than X & Y IMO.
I'm currently going through Moon with all 3 starters. It took me almost an hour to get the ability to trade one of the starters from Sun to Moon. 2 starters took 2 hours!!! Who designed this?!
I guess the story content of the game is not too bad. Lillie is special to me especially when you play as a Male Character Ellio, she has a crush on you while as a female protagonist Selene is a different story.
Pokemon Sun and Moon games were released on 2015 in JP and 2016 in US and EU, almost the same year as US and EU release of Mario and Luigi Paper Jam or Paper Jam Bros.
Pokemon sun and moon released in November of 2016. There was no mainline game released in 2015. The only Pokemon game released in 2015 was Pokemon super mystery dungeon which was a Pokemon spinoff game. Plus starting x and y and gen 6, Pokemon games released worldwide. X and y, Oras, sun and moon, ultra sun and moon, let’s go, sword and shield, bdsp, legends Arceus, and scarlet and violet all released worldwide.
@@nightwing2032 Oh oops sorry, I just reversed the release date Pokemon Sun and Moon released in 2016, the same year as Mario and Luigi Paper Jam release date in US and EU while JP is 2015.
@@vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 I get that it’s been what 8 or so years since Pokemon sun and moon released in November of 2016 but you really should at least look up its release date. Considering Pokemon sun and moon released at the 20th anniversary of Pokemon which was 2016 and the release of Pokemon go which released during the summer of 2016. Not that I’m trying to blame you, insult, or anything.
Sun & Moon sadly ruined Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon for me. I 100% Sun to race my friend who did the same with Moon so with USUM being the same for a good chunk of the beginning, I never finished them.
@@LolEleiteye And not being themselves as enthusiastic as they are for older games they only appreciated and do nuzlockes and challenging runs and shiny hunting and ROM hacking. Even sometimes Gen 6 to Gen 9 challenge runs or nuzlockes.
Not my fav but best on 3ds I think. To bad it have 2 game not new version like yellow vs green.,bet why I and lot think it eh. Otherwise almost good game with few flaw in it.
One thing I really can't stand, even though Pokemon Sun and Moon were widely beloved, everyone all of the sudden decided to start hating them later, completely out of nowhere! Why?
Ok... I'm now seeing a pattern here! I feel like people's been saying that the Pokémon games have gotten bad SINCE X/Y! 💀 Although Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon is far better!
The DS ones definitely created a toxic community who trashes anything that came out post DS era, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t play much Pokémon
@@imbored1179 ikr I played DS DP and they are the most boring, bland, and slow games I played in the series, and there were too many times I’ve encountered Pokemon from gen 1, I had more fun with base sun and moon that DP
If do switch renames if Pokémon this should be one. Would a title call sun and moon something be cool on switch. The idea meant like for switch. It like joke how switch have 2 thing it can do and the ds 2 screen. Be reason by name lol for ds one.
Yes they are. I have never been so bored playing a pokemon game. And sure, USUM is “better”, but the games are still extremely boring with way too many interruptions. Easily the worst generation at least on the handhelds.
@@skippy336I think they fulfill their goals better than gen 6 in terms of having a story that lives up to its potential, a region with barely any unexplored areas, a higher difficulty than gen 6 and a post game that's better than gen 6's.
@juandiegotorres9632 you may be right, you do have a valid oppinion. Comparing a story between a man and his pokemon to that of an obsessed mother who goes crazy and abandons her children hits way harder. I just felt USUM was missing something
Sun and Moon are great games, Lillie's story is so engaging and Team Skull are my absolute favourite "evil" team. Like of course they're dumb and not scary, they're a bunch of kids that fell through the cracks trying to find community.
I wish there will be a Sun and Moon remake after Legends Z-A happens and also what if new Alola form Pokemon can be in the new Sun and Moon remake a new Z moves for different Pokemon
Sun and moon are great depsite the really long tutorial and cutscenes. Arguably has the best story in any pokemon game as well . Plus regional variants were peak
Black&white has the best story by far and it's not even remotely close.
@@potorius7877 nah sun and moons story >>>. Black and whites story is really overrated
Unpopular opinion I like Sun and Moon and i enjoy the original more than the Ultra games
That's not very unpopular, but in my opinion, they're both equally good, they have good and bad things that make them equivalents.
Imo yes. They’re the only games I couldn’t wait to finish bc I just COULDN’T with the cutscenes every few minutes.
Pokemon sun and moon are not bad games, people just don't like the different things they decided to go with, and z moves were not bad not as popular as mega evolution. I genuinely enjoy it, I just wish people feel the same way. Alola is really a unique region and the alolan forms look great. Thanks for the video 😊 ❤
I just loves Z Moves of Water 💧 Rock 🪨 Dark 🌙 Electric ⚡️ Ghost 👻 Fairy 🧚 Dragon 🐉 Ice 🧊
Man some Pokémon fans are annoying, they want everything to stay the same. But yeah Alola is my favorite region of all and i love the 4 games!~
worst games of the series. Killed the franchise
Peak 3ds! I’ll play these games any day over the games we got on switch
I agree
Pokemon Ultra Sun and Pokemon Ultra Moon are the last Nintendo 3Ds games that I ever played before replace with Nintendo Switch and they're a lot better than the previous versions of Pokemon Sun/Moon because there's a lot of features in the games like Festival Plaza, Poké Pelago, Rotom Dex Upgrades, Mantine Surf, Alola Photo Club, Reverse World and the new improved storylines. Also my favourites Alola starter Pokemon is Popplio because it evolved into Brionne and then evolved into Primarina as it looks more of a female rather than a male which is why I always picked Popplio as my starter Pokemon in four games version as it suit for a female trainer like me.
i’m glad i found your channel cause i love your videos!
I actually didn't like the removal of HMs. I kinda think it made sense to have a party member who wasn't 100% focused on combat. Each region tended to have a mammalian Pokemon caught early that we kept around for use as an HM mule. Most of us probably wouldn't have used a Linoone, Bibarel or Furret if they hadn't made such great HM mules. Instead they became consistent, valued party members. Likewise each region had a regional 3 evolution bird that we kept around knowing we'd need fly later.
Did you keep Youngoos & Pikipek with you or did you just box them?
Instead of removing them entirely I wish they had just made them better in combat. Surf & fly were decent moves & strength was at least usable. Cut & rock smash needed buffs. Up both of their damage maybe & maybe make cut steel type with an elevated crit rate or something.
This was my first pair of pokemon games as a kid after watching the shows and collecting the cards for ages. I got it on release and remember watching the pokemom show while playing it. It was just simple enough for younger me to enjoy without getting lost once and now I'm older and can appreciate the more difficult ones. I know they weren't the best games but I still love em
Regional variants are indeed great. So great in fact that every game after gen 7 have regional variants in some way, Sword and shield had galarian forms and regional evolutions, legend arceus had some great hisuian forms, scarlet and violet had Paldea forms regional fakes and paradox forms. Pokemon legends ZA will probably also have regional variants so I'm curious what they will do with them this time, probably regional mega evolutions
What if new Alola form Pokemon could be in the new Sun and Moon remake like Alolan Sableye or Alolan Absol or Alola Roserade
Hey do you think the Pokémon direct will announce a Sun and Moon remake after Legends Z-A happens
@@vanessasandoval96 I don't know, Black and White hasn't gotten a remake and because Gen 7 is already a 3D game, the chance is small. but I think there is a good chance that every region will one day get a legends game. So a legends sun and moon will probably get a lot of new regional variants
Alola pokedex is one of my favorites. Great video
These games are a 10/10 with a skip button
Happy 5k! i've been here since 3k lmao
It was the best game since BW story wise, it was the best looking GF Pokemon game ever at that point and even past it with SWSH, the story was unique and they did something new with the island trial. The music is peak really I can name so many reasons why it’s so good. People like to just lump all the 3DS games as bad so they include even this really good one
I wish Sun and Moon could’ve been included on the Nintendo Switch version of the Ultra game
so i was moving to my new place a couple years ago. when I was packing my stuff, i found my Sun and it’s still sealed 😂 i still havent open it yet
The fact that you ONLY have 5k subs is criminal. Phenomenal videos man keep it up 🩵
I absolutely love these games, played the hell out of them as a kid. Also, Alolan Raichu is one of my favorite pokemon ever lol
In retrospect these games were not all that bad, although USUM are the superior versions. Only thing that I didn’t like is that every game starting with this going forward is the removal of the National Dex. These games also came at a point in my life where there was a lot of change going on so I wasn’t able to enjoy them as much I wanted to. Personally I enjoyed the Totem battles and I really liked the idea of us defending our Champion title whenever you visit the Elite Four
3:50 She idolizes Ultra Beasts and fuses herself with power without any consciousness for her family and herself.
This is why as a casual player, anyone's authorized to use every Z-moves against any Aether Foundation Employees and Faba and Lusamine before that and against some Team Skull too and Guzma during Last Resort.
What if Ultra Beasts are villains
Gen. 7 is an interesting case. They had some things changes, yet the formulaic is still the same. It had many good parts, but also has some bad parts that people exaggerated on to much. The original versions were fine enough. But they retcon it with an enhanced version rather than following the story with an sequel. Neatless to say, it's probably the most diversive gen of them all. Even more so than Gen. 5 was. But overall, I quite enjoy both Sun & Moon and USUM. There not the best game of the series. But there pretty decent games and certainly better than X & Y IMO.
Like I don’t hate sun and moon is just I wasn’t a fan of z move but I get used to it but I like that how you don’t need hm no more
Is this a sun & moon recap video or opinion piece, because you barely give your take. Just covering what players already know
I grew to like team skull more after the introductions of team yell and star in the later gens
Idk which one to get sun or moon I need help deciding which one to pick
I'm currently going through Moon with all 3 starters. It took me almost an hour to get the ability to trade one of the starters from Sun to Moon. 2 starters took 2 hours!!! Who designed this?!
Gen 7 has music that can rival the almighty gen 5
I guess the story content of the game is not too bad.
Lillie is special to me especially when you play as a Male Character Ellio, she has a crush on you while as a female protagonist Selene is a different story.
Pokemon Sun and Moon games were released on 2015 in JP and 2016 in US and EU, almost the same year as US and EU release of Mario and Luigi Paper Jam or Paper Jam Bros.
Pokemon sun and moon released in November of 2016. There was no mainline game released in 2015. The only Pokemon game released in 2015 was Pokemon super mystery dungeon which was a Pokemon spinoff game. Plus starting x and y and gen 6, Pokemon games released worldwide. X and y, Oras, sun and moon, ultra sun and moon, let’s go, sword and shield, bdsp, legends Arceus, and scarlet and violet all released worldwide.
@@nightwing2032 Oh oops sorry, I just reversed the release date
Pokemon Sun and Moon released in 2016, the same year as Mario and Luigi Paper Jam release date in US and EU while JP is 2015.
@@vincenzorafaelsuarez6644 I get that it’s been what 8 or so years since Pokemon sun and moon released in November of 2016 but you really should at least look up its release date. Considering Pokemon sun and moon released at the 20th anniversary of Pokemon which was 2016 and the release of Pokemon go which released during the summer of 2016. Not that I’m trying to blame you, insult, or anything.
Just bought Pokémon moon again the other day to replay it! Honestly it really is a good game ^_^
They're much better than gen 8 & 9 imo.
If only this game had the gym system it would have been very appreciated
Moon and sun is the best games since gen 3
Sun & Moon sadly ruined Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon for me. I 100% Sun to race my friend who did the same with Moon so with USUM being the same for a good chunk of the beginning, I never finished them.
The reason Sun and Moon is hated is because that was the first generation where people started seeing the older games as nostalgic.
@@LolEleiteye And not being themselves as enthusiastic as they are for older games they only appreciated and do nuzlockes and challenging runs and shiny hunting and ROM hacking. Even sometimes Gen 6 to Gen 9 challenge runs or nuzlockes.
I have such a flaming take it seems. Pokemon sun is my favorite pokemon game.
Congratulations 🎉
Gens 6-8 suffer from unskippable fortresses of text. They “play” more like reading a book, with a short burst of gameplay in between chapters
Not my fav but best on 3ds I think. To bad it have 2 game not new version like yellow vs green.,bet why I and lot think it eh. Otherwise almost good game with few flaw in it.
One thing I really can't stand, even though Pokemon Sun and Moon were widely beloved, everyone all of the sudden decided to start hating them later, completely out of nowhere! Why?
Even the Pokemon anime of Pokemon Sun and Moon series too.
I never liked the game even back then and I have given it many chances over the years and I still don't like it now.
@@Mehtaru They are awful games. Like genuinely the worst entries of the series. I just don't get it.
Ok... I'm now seeing a pattern here! I feel like people's been saying that the Pokémon games have gotten bad SINCE X/Y! 💀
Although Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon is far better!
It's a wired time I guess to make a fuss about which game is better 😅
The DS ones definitely created a toxic community who trashes anything that came out post DS era, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t play much Pokémon
@@3dsfan2002they are even worse than the Genwunners. There’s literally no way base DP is better than any of the 3DS games including XY
@@imbored1179 ikr I played DS DP and they are the most boring, bland, and slow games I played in the series, and there were too many times I’ve encountered Pokemon from gen 1, I had more fun with base sun and moon that DP
@@3dsfan2002 and I still enjoyed them! I don't see what's all the hate is about?
I miss z moves
These are the best Pokémon games out of all of them. Well the ultras are
Maybe the Pokémon direct can announce the Sun and Moon remake after Legends Z-A happens it’s going to be called Ultimate Sun and Ultimate Moon
Still haven’t beat it lol
If do switch renames if Pokémon this should be one. Would a title call sun and moon something be cool on switch. The idea meant like for switch. It like joke how switch have 2 thing it can do and the ds 2 screen. Be reason by name lol for ds one.
For once I can’t comment because I never finished sun and moon
Sun and moon are the best pokemon games.
Pokemon before xy is unplayable due to grind.
And pokemon post usum is awful
Xy and Sm are peak.
Do you think the Pokémon direct will announce a Sun and Moon remake after Legends Z-A happens
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Not as bad as sword & shield 😅
Yes they are. I have never been so bored playing a pokemon game. And sure, USUM is “better”, but the games are still extremely boring with way too many interruptions.
Easily the worst generation at least on the handhelds.
Yeah that's pretty much it. it's just boring
Sun and Moon are boring
The story is great. Everything else is awful.
I hated the sun and moon games because the long cutscenes
To summarise before watching to video: yes. They're the worst games in the series.
Insane take lmfao
@Shinntoku worst game at the time, but not anymore. Meaning in my opinion they were like a 6-8 in quality
Not bad, as in like 2-3.
@@skippy336I think they fulfill their goals better than gen 6 in terms of having a story that lives up to its potential, a region with barely any unexplored areas, a higher difficulty than gen 6 and a post game that's better than gen 6's.
@juandiegotorres9632 you may be right, you do have a valid oppinion. Comparing a story between a man and his pokemon to that of an obsessed mother who goes crazy and abandons her children hits way harder.
I just felt USUM was missing something
@@skippy336 they were *leagues* better than XY