How Good Was Hypnotic Specter, Actually? | A Deep Dive Into Its Competitive History!
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Hypnotic Specter was once one of the most feared creatures in all of Magic: the Gathering, but at this point those are days gone by. In this video, I delve deep into the card's competitive history, and explain what made "hyppie" so good.
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Please keep up the “How Good Was [CARDNAME]?” With 30 years of history (now going on 31, there’s lots to talk about and learn from.
The question really is, "How good is Dark Ritual?"
Longer than the Landorus movie
T1 underground sea, ritual, specter, go.
@@Shinji0Ikari007T1 basic swamp, Dark Ritual, One With Nothing, One With Nothing, One With Nothing, go!
@andrewsparkes6275 one with nothing is a sorcery you can't stack it and the first one resolving would remove the others from your hand.
@@stigmaoftherose You might wanna check Scryfall before you say utterly untrue things like that, in the future?
The thing is: In 1994 I was playing on my friend's carpet - He played Hypnotic Spector and Royal Assassin. This caused me to quit magic unit 2012.
You quit before it put nettling imp out?
The irony is that both of those cards re-entered Standard quite a bit before your 2012 re-entry. Both exited after 4th Edition in 1995 but got reprinted in 9th Edition in 2005. (Royal was in 8th Edition too.) Both remained in the core set for a few sets after that.
Lol. You never heard of removal?
Wow few Hypnotic specter games put me off on magic for like 10 years too.
@@Melvinvanharn LOL what? Do you even have the faintest notion of how it was back in 1994?
No internet. All homebrews. And no, creature removal wasn't used that much. In fact, the winning deck of Worlds 1994 (Zak Dolan's WUG Control) had only five (creature) removal cards: 4x Swords to Plowshares, 1x Wrath of God... and that was a CONTROL deck.
First turn ritual into hippie
Followed by second turn hymn
Was a certified game winner
Hypnotic Specter is a new Nizzahon video when I planned to go to bed.
One of the first MTG tournies I won was mono black: Dark Ritual --> Hypnotic Spector --> 2 Racks on turn 2 ---> Paralyze on whatever creature they play = game over.
I really enjoy this series. Hopes it does well enough to be worth continuing
I notice that Erhnam Djinn gets clobbered in every poll of this type. Apparently, a lot people still had PTSD after being at the wrong end of Armageddon.
Hypnotic Specter was my favorite creature back in the day. A turn one Specter followed by a turn two Hymn to Torach or Sinkhole was a crushing start.
yeah or the dreaded turn 1 -> ritual -> ritual -> mind twist
I felt dirty doing that to people but it was so crushing on 1. Esp if they mulled.
The "how good was it actually" are cool just for the fact they become less dated over time. They're locked in aspects of magic history. The top 10 lists are more relevant to the 1 year-ish window of their release, as a few years can pass and revisiting the list is a whole new video.
Just wanna say im absolutely loving this series. Im a fairly new player who plays only draft, standard and EDH. Your channel has helped me to learn about and appreciate the history of this amazing game, thanks Nizzahon!
I love this series. I’m relatively new to magic so I dont know many of these old cards
New series is awesome dude! Fresh change. I hope it survives the almighty algorithm.
I really like the history content you put together for decks and or cards - very nostalgic for me. I started playing when Tempest came out and when you talk about those busted days, I remember how powerful the 90s were for MTG. Thank you.
I love this series and really hope it is able to continue. I was only 6 when I started playing mtg so my memory of these early years are kind of hazy outside of my direct experience and even then still not crystal because child and all lol, so it's great to see things from a zoomed out lense with a clear narrative to explain it all with supporting facts instead of just anecdotes.
Other ideas: flametongue kavu, psychatog, dark confidant
I hope this series continues! As a newer player, I'm missing out on a lot of context behind early magic, maybe other than "This was before power creep happened", so it's fascinating to find out WHY older cards were good in their day, and in their respective formats!
Yes, as I've said before, I love this series and would like to see it continue.
The true power of Hypnotic Specter laid in the threat of going Turn 1 Dark Ritual into Hypnotic Specter. As a result, Type 2 (now known as Standard) was dominated by 1 mana answers in Swords to Plowshares and Lightning Bolt. The random discard had a habit of stripping a key land or Wrath effect at just the right time (in combination with Hymn and Stupor) and then keeping your hand empty to suffer damage from The Rack to get you in range for a big Drain Life. Mono-Black was just a very powerful and synergistic deck for the time that it dominated the meta, and in that context Hypnotic Specter was a key part of deck.
Nowadays, creatures have been pushed so hard that they don’t see play unless they provide immediate value or are part of a combo. Waiting a whole turn to attack to get some utility other than eating a removal spell wouldn’t really cut it nowadays. The only place where I would play Hippie is in my Nicol Bolas EDH deck.
Please keep up this awesome series! It's great seeing these old cards and the decks they were in talked about. And with the format Pre-Modern getting more popular, a lot of these cards are becoming relevant again.
These videos are gems.
This series is great, it's a solid inbetween for top 10s and deck histories
I've really been liking these, Nizzahon! I'd love to see more "How Good was.." videos from you!
Removal is also much more common now than in the early editions of Magic. Random discard is still a pretty strong ability tho.
This series and your deck history series are my favorite videos of yours.
I have fond memories of the Spectre. We played a lot with it. The most fun times I've had with it were our friend group's re-plays of the first Finnish MTG Championships, which were in 1995. We did a re-run in 2000 and 2005. I played a BR discard deck with Spectres, Hymns and a Mindtwist in both, splashing some green in the first one. We had about 12 players in both of those, and I placed third in the first one and won the second one. Obviously first turn Swamp-Ritual-Spectre was a common start, but then again, the opponents Mountain-Lightning Bolt was almost as common.
Long time nizzahon fan. Very keen on new series to replace a top 10 each week!
I haven't played since the early 00s and this series helps me understand how the game's changed.
When I first started playing mtg this was my first favorite card. To this day I still get hyped when I see it in new sets
Nizzahon has become the False Swipe Gaming of MTG, my two favorite hobbies collide in the best way possible😊
I'm just finishing my old-border cube and I'm learning a lot from this new series. Always looking forward to new videos and hope they continue! Thanks for the work
These new videos really take me back
So many memories from those good old times spent disrupting opponents with Ritual into Specter!
I hope you keep the series going! It's really great learning about the history of the game and I'm enjoying your analysis, keep up the stellar work.
I have thoroughly enjoyed each video in this series and hope it continues. I enjoy the deck history and the discussion about how the card compares to what is printed today. Outstanding work and thank you!
Liking this series a lot!!
Ideally enjoy the deck lists posted in these videos, thanks for listing them.
This vid series is extremely sick and valuable
I played solo black and I remember being trapped more than once with it. For instance I would play the dark ritual / hippie combo on turn one only to be taken down by a lightning bolt, swords to plowshares, or another staple anti-creature card. Pretty much any competitive deck would have several of these types of cards, so there's at least half a chance he had one ready to go just for situations like this.
Like the series, and the polls beforehand. More please.
Hippie will always steal a space in my heart ❤
I still REALLY wish you talked about the Old School format, in your videos. Specter is still amazing in that format.
In my mind, the Hyppie will always be the biggest lightning rod in the game, where the decision to bolt it on sight became a matter of "Hmm, do I kill it now or take the chance of it knocking this bolt out of my hand?" So you just bolted it immediately.
I love this new series! Hope it does well cause I definitely want more.
These videos are great! My favorite videos in the channel!
I really hope the series sticks out, and soon we have the tarmagoyf video, as now he fell from best creature of all time to commander token status.
Ahh, the sweet tears of my opponents as they tried hiding or getting me to pick some other card as i would pluck a card from their hand and watch as a dual land, or their banger went to the graveyard.
I love this new "how good was" series, keep it up
This video series needs to stay!
Hypnotic Spector with elves of deep shadow was my jam
It’s wild to hear nowadays that they were fine with necropotence but not specter(in extended)
PLEASE continue this series! I would share the videos but I don't use FB and don't have friends who play the game to share the link to (not that I think it'd count that).
Really enjoying this new series.
I really like the series. I must say though; if you cut bakc on top 10, don't just have it exclude the fun themes. I like the lists that are data based, but part of the charm is that the "most expensive" "busted" and such are less than "worst art" or "cards I thought were good, that are actually bad". I loved seeing the Hanukkah, Halloween, and April Fools videos. I also like seeing you take apart certain types. That was really fun. This series has place though! You've got a lot of good content. I will add, finally, I like the deck history videos. Those are really long, so I know they're a heavy gamble. I think this is a good series though! Please keep it!
MY take is Ball Lightning. Not for you to make video on, just that was my first "big"($12) card I used, and I loved that.
2:15 1994, where you could find space for Argothian Pixies but not Wheel nor Timetwister.
Please continue the series.
Keep going with this series!
So my buddy and I got really into MTG. Around the time of born of the gods. He bought a precon called sidestep which is 3/4's of a strong pauper deck these days. With Clout of the Dominus. I bought it off him and won like 10 games in a row. So next day my friend goes and buys a playset of Hypnotic Specter. Hymn to Torachs. Ect. Think it cost him like 5 bucks to make the entire deck. Then I couldn't beat him. We did a few drafts after that then we both quit for a number of years.
The Rack also came in handy vs Necropotence decks.
well I've been enjoying this series and hope to see it continue
it's interesting to compare hypnotic specter with abyssal specter, which was nearly identical but added 1 toughness and cost 1 more, and that added cost made sure it never had the same impact as the originsl
I like this series, please continue !
Love these history videos! Keep them coming!!!
Dear Nizzahon, really love the new format! However, one thing: Maybe you could widen the section, in which you explain the gameplay with the card? Liek - showing bits of a pro-match, or describing its interactions with certain meta-pieces of the time in question?
The irony is that most of the time you would try to play it in Legacy today, the removal it's most likely to die to is either Lightning Bolt or Swords to Plowshares.
I've been enjoying this series, it's nice to see what some of these cards were actually used for when I was still just getting started.
A couple things I would like to suggest is maybe a point total from its finishes at the end summary like how you have in the top ten videos.
Then for a video suggestion, how about Chaos Orb? Was it actually good enough to see play and impact any games before it was banned?
tbh i love this series, its a good mix up, deep diving into a particuar card rather than top 10s
Loving this series!
I miss when they used to put quotes from RL poems on cards for flavor text.
It's hilarious to see Serrated Arrows being in tournament decks, but I can understand why it was.
Was a good colorless response to the "pump knights" that populated the black Necropotence decks and the White Winnie decks of those times.
@@GabAssbreaker Gets around protection, and you pay once and use it three times, kind of like a planeswalker, haha.
When I was first starting to play in 8th grade, I didn't "build" a deck. I just shuffled every card I owned together with some lands and that was my deck, at least until it got to be around 300 cards or so. (Many others did the same, so I wasn't really at a disadvantage.) Even at that early stage, where I liked cards much more for their art and flavor than their actual power in the game, I could tell Hypnotic Specter was really good. It might well have been the first card I actually bought four copies of; it was either that or Lightning Bolt.
Anyway, I'm definitely enjoying the series so far. If you do one a week, it seems like it would be at least several years before you start running low on cards to talk about.
I love the series, great job!
Loving this series
Love the series. Love your videos.
Keep this series going! Good job.
Against a bad hand, Hyppo with Dark Ritual was devastating in the early days
'I'm five turns from casting my Shivan Dragon/Sengir Vampire/Serra Angel that can actually block this abomination and Terror don't work, so I really hope I packed Lightning Bolt or Sword to Plowshares'
Love this series!
But I’d love even more to see “How good was Lightning Bolt actually?” ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Nothing felt quite as good as making the blue mage dump their counter spells back in the day ❤😂
Best new series since Nizza Notes. Keep 'em comin'!
Keep this it's a fun series
Something else that would affect how good the hypnotic spectre is or isnt is that theres a lot more graveyard interaction going around, its a lot less powerful when that card that is discarded is going to be flashbacked, has madness, can return to hand or can be exiled for some effect for some examples.
I love this series! Please keep it going! How good was jackal pup? How good was savanah lions?
Love this series!
Its still good enough to the point I have it in my mono black devotion commander deck with Chainer. Make an opponent discard a card that could be a response to my bs or make the opponent discard a creature that I can reainimate. Its a win win with the specter.
Would be really fun to see it reprinted as an uncommon or similarly in order to see how it would keep up in limited. For while its stats are below rate nowadays the damage trigger is still really potent in the early game and its evasion would probably ensure it being able to nab a few cards before it becomes irrelevant or is removed. Seems decent if not good for limited.
I’ve liked this series a ton!
Shovel Knight looks like (old art) Hypnotic Specter’s cousin
A deck called Rogue Dead Guy Ale is reminding me that its is almost 5 o clock on Friday. Mmmm. Beer.
I love this series.
I love this series!
Please keep this series !
3 out of 4 feature shuler art so far, nice!
new series "How Good Was Douglas Shuler, Anyway?"
@@aSwineofCulture i would become a member
Dark Ritual into Hippie Speccer was great. Dark Ritual into Dark Ritual into Sengir Vampire was even better. Dark Ritual into Dark Ritual into Hippie and Hymn to Tourach was the best. All were a great way to make your friends hate you in the 90s.
I totally love it and learn a lot from it.
Turn 1: Swamp, Dark Rituall, Himpiety
Turn 2: Swamp, Hymn to Tourach, Swing with Hippie
Turn 3: Swamp, 2nd Hippie.....
Kinda sad people weren't interested in Erhnam Djinn. It's easily one of my favorite cards in the game. Especially the badass Judgment version.
The spookster!!! A playground classic if nothing else.
Great series
I made a Tinybones, Trinket Thief commander deck and I absolutely run Specter in it. Only reason why I don't play the deck is because, well, it's Tinybones. But one day I'll slam that thing turn one and it'll be great. Even better is gonna be when I slam down Necro turn one!
Love these vids!
This new series is awesome. I really like it. It’s heartbreaking but also great hearing the history of hypnotic specter. My first viewing of a magic cards was hypnotic specter from beta in a case at some store at the mall (I was a yugioh kid back then) and seeing the cool art and frame blew my mind. I love the art and the effect. Specter is certainly a card deserving of a power house to put the type back into relevance again (but not in a tribal way).
Also, real question to everyone, if Hypnotic Specter was printed in a set today what rarity would they be? I’m thinking uncommon but part of me thinks it’s maybe okay to print as a common for pauper.
I think it would still dominate limited at common.