On the strength of this video, I visited today and bought a B25 from Ed. Walked away with a beautiful gun after an enjoyable chat. This shop is well worth a visit. Friendly, welcoming, knowledgable and a stock of superb guns. Oh, and a very well behaved spaniel! 👍
Roy the one gun that changed sporting clay shooting in the late 80's early 90's was the Miroku 3800, in all its grades and especially with teague chokes. I loved and wished I had never sold my B2G, but the types of targets that grounds were moving to, with longer quartering and looping birds made the stability of the Miroku the gun to go for and was the gun that the top guys were winning with. I guess I have never understood why Browning have never followed the change in the market with their B25 range to produce longer barrelled competition guns as they handle and shoot superbly well.
B25’s…yep they are best.. I have two, a B2G & a Diana both 30” and I shoot clays with them. I do get admiring comments from old timers, [like me] and I always feel very special just to shoot them. I also have 3 x B125’s grade D’s that feel very similar in your hand, same non detachable fore end and almost as special compared to anything modern. Good video BTW, thanks, and we do need to educate some shooters to the delights of B25’s as they don’t know what they are missing.
He's passionate about the sport and he's browning especially the b25 they look amazing the action sounds amazing when open and closes maybe one day I will get one
Yes i've been a big b25 fan for many years, although my usage is a Miroku grade 5 mk60. Mine included, like what has been mentioned,what happens to these guns when this supposed lead ban is imposed? If im not prepared to modify my gun,does this render it a museum piece? Or maybe shoot bismuth?😊
As well you Roy I can't understand why 1970s/1980s B25 are so undervalued and unappreciated. Perhaps many younger shooters feel more 'secure' with new 'production' guns and probably, given time and interest, may come to fully understand and appreciate traditional gun making skill. I've always thought it amazing how the Herstal gun makers could craft in such discernible quality differences between the grades A up to D.
B25`s:- 84 parts, 22 different steels, subject to 794 operations. 67 different heat treatments with 155 Hand operations then over 2000 checks and 1490 gauges!!.. .....
They don’t need to be steel proof to shot standard steel, for example a 32g 4 steel can be shot through a none steel proof gun as long as the choking is no tighter than half
Why are sales in decline…..don’t you think price may have something to do with it? Let’s face it, you can spend a fraction of what a B25 cost and get a really good gun that will last a long time.
@@roymartingunsmiths814 Maybe in your area but not around here you won't. To start with they are quite hard to find in Canada and you will pay $1500 for a decent used plain jane Superposed.
@@mikehodgins I have quite a few older guns because there isn't much about new ones that interest me however my main sporting gun is a Perazzi High Tech, one of the few new guns I do own.
Being new to shotguns I love listening to the passion and learning about all these manufacturers and their historical models, thanks
Agree 100%😊
Thank you!
On the strength of this video, I visited today and bought a B25 from Ed. Walked away with a beautiful gun after an enjoyable chat. This shop is well worth a visit. Friendly, welcoming, knowledgable and a stock of superb guns. Oh, and a very well behaved spaniel! 👍
Great to meet you today!!! Thank you for coming to us
Excellent video, I agree with everything you say about the B25. I had a C2G game gun and C3 trap gun back in the 90s.
Beautiful to own and shoot.
After more than 30 years my B25 A1 from 1964 has grown into my shoulder.
Roy the one gun that changed sporting clay shooting in the late 80's early 90's was the Miroku 3800, in all its grades and especially with teague chokes. I loved and wished I had never sold my B2G, but the types of targets that grounds were moving to, with longer quartering and looping birds made the stability of the Miroku the gun to go for and was the gun that the top guys were winning with. I guess I have never understood why Browning have never followed the change in the market with their B25 range to produce longer barrelled competition guns as they handle and shoot superbly well.
B25’s…yep they are best.. I have two, a B2G & a Diana both 30” and I shoot clays with them. I do get admiring comments from old timers, [like me] and I always feel very special just to shoot them. I also have 3 x B125’s grade D’s that feel very similar in your hand, same non detachable fore end and almost as special compared to anything modern. Good video BTW, thanks, and we do need to educate some shooters to the delights of B25’s as they don’t know what they are missing.
The Diana is a beautiful gun, we have recently refurbished a 30” 12b for a customer
He's passionate about the sport and he's browning especially the b25 they look amazing the action sounds amazing when open and closes maybe one day I will get one
Thank you
@roymartingunsmiths814 no problem mate looked at your Web site it's brilliant
Love my B2G, lovely looking gun. Have always liked Brownings.
I loved my C2G 20b
Yes i've been a big b25 fan for many years, although my usage is a
Miroku grade 5 mk60.
Mine included, like what has been mentioned,what happens to these guns when this supposed lead ban is imposed?
If im not prepared to modify my gun,does this render it a museum piece? Or maybe shoot bismuth?😊
I've never seen a Browning like these two very nice lumber on both.
Thank you
Love the videos, do some more side by sides.
Part of the answer to your question as to why the B25s are not being bought as much as you'd wish is that they have the price of a trip to the moon!
As well you Roy I can't understand why 1970s/1980s B25 are so undervalued and unappreciated. Perhaps many younger shooters feel more 'secure' with new 'production' guns and probably, given time and interest, may come to fully understand and appreciate traditional gun making skill. I've always thought it amazing how the Herstal gun makers could craft in such discernible quality differences between the grades A up to D.
B25`s:- 84 parts, 22 different steels, subject to 794 operations. 67 different heat treatments with 155 Hand operations then over 2000 checks and 1490 gauges!!.. .....
And what a gun they were and still are
Stop highlighting how good these guns are Ed! I haven’t got one yet!😂
You’ll have to get one brought!
I prefer the BT 99 and the Satori
Save the skeets !!! one skeet is too many !!!
Maybe it's got something to do with not being steel shot proof?
They don’t need to be steel proof to shot standard steel, for example a 32g 4 steel can be shot through a none steel proof gun as long as the choking is no tighter than half
Ho much does it cost
Hand built best gun with quality you cannot find today unless spending 25-30K wad of money.
Why are sales in decline…..don’t you think price may have something to do with it? Let’s face it, you can spend a fraction of what a B25 cost and get a really good gun that will last a long time.
You can pick up a second hand 1970s B2G for around £1,500 and it will last you a life time and be as good as any modern gun
It's similar to being a car nut, some people strive to own a classic were others buy new from a forecourt
@@roymartingunsmiths814 Maybe in your area but not around here you won't. To start with they are quite hard to find in Canada and you will pay $1500 for a decent used plain jane Superposed.
@@mikehodgins I have quite a few older guns because there isn't much about new ones that interest me however my main sporting gun is a Perazzi High Tech, one of the few new guns I do own.
It's a image and marketing thing most youngsters coming into the sport regard them as old mens guns
True, the young guns want semi-automatics