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I just ordered one of these HDTV Adapters. I’m hoping they’re more improved now in 2022. I noticed that most of the comments are 2-3 years old. Good video.
They have not made any changes to these cable since they originally released, I would not expect anything different than what I showed here. Good and bad.
RGB lines in a Sega Genesis are severely Overdrivin. after burner 32x and Space Harrier 32x are almost unplayable in some levels. I tore apart both the adapters and cut the Red Green and Blue lines going in and inserted a 75ohm resistor in each line on the pound adapter and a 33ohm resistor in the lines on the Hyperkin. major improvement!
Rewatching your older videos again today Gary. I am under the weather and am just relaxing this Sunday. Gonna try and game this evening. Hope you and the family are good!
@@RoXolid I didn't know anyone who had one growing up and got my first SMS almost two years ago. Been hooked ever since. Such an underrated and underappreciated system. It has generated interest for the mark 3 and SG-1000 and learning about them. As well as getting a few of those games.
I think I will just stick with using my Hyperkin Mega HD for now and then get the Analogue SG later. I think this cable is great though and much needed.
have you had issues with the Model 1 adapter? It takes me a few tries to get it to work, and I heard that the adapter is not the correct one... I'm just scared I'll mess my console (I have the model 1 obviously). I cannot afford the more expensive options at this moment, that is why I went with this cable.
Mine plugged right in, however I am aware of the issue and have filmed a follow up to this which will be live tomorrow (Patreon supporters will have access to it shortly)
What do you like better: this cable for original genesis, or the mega retron hd system? Crazy that the mega retron is not much more expensive than just the cable
If this is anything like a pound cable then you can use this with the 32x also. It's actually kind of perfect for it because the adapter cable for the model 1 is the exact cable that came with the 32x originally. The only extra thing you need to get is a model 2 to 32x link cable to plug into the model 1 adapter then the 32x and the hd cable plugs into the video out of the 32x to the tv. The only problem is that most gen 2 to 32x link cables that you can find on the net still have the 5 volt pin on both ends of the connector, if it is there you will have to pull it or it will damage both systems by providing double the 5 volt power to both. This cable also works with the turbo grafix 16, the SMS and a few others that have a din or mini din out.
How well does the Hyperkin cable work withGames like Street Fighter 2, NHL ‘94 or Tecmo Super Bowl as they use a special 256x244 rendering that makes the screen shimmer and show horizontal lines on the Hyperkin Megaretron HD
I must say, I got a little excited at your review on this product as I have really been struggling to connect my SMS2 to LED TV, but then I saw the RF connector and realised it wouldn't fit on the no US models. However, that RCA composite to HDMI box you showed was interesting as that might just work - do you know if the RF signal from the SMS2 is connected to the yellow connector would that transmit sound as well?
Nope, there's nothing that will directly take a SMS2 and give you RCA outs. I believe there's a mod that can get you composite output, but that's not something I've dug into.
I am also curious on how it would work with the Master System 2. I recently looked at a scart solution for the master system and mega drive, but reviews of the cable stated that it didn't work with master system 2. If this HD cable was compatible with the MS2, it would be amazing!
Most cheap devices don't line double or triple and most don't handle 240p correctly, like 480i with 15khz drop shadows kind of stuff. For 30$ tho...not bad at all.
I think It might have been called the “HDTV Cable” instead of “HDMI cable” to reduce the chance that folks think you need a model 1 labeled “high definition graphics” by placing emphasis on the display device instead of the console. Nothing they could do would completely avoid that problem, but it might help.
RetroTINK still seems like a better investment. I love the button action on the hyperkin 🕹 style controllers very tight and responsive and recessing the cord into controller base to prevent cable fatigue was brilliant idea.
I read the detailed description. It's a welcome addition to videos. I noticed the fair use section near the bottom. I was wondering; do you ever have an issue with people or companies calling out your vids for copyright? If so, have you ever pointed to the explanation in your descriptions and by doing this, resolved the copyright issue?
Thanks for the upload. How are these cables used with a Majesco Genesis model 3? I can't get the Hyperkin version to output any picture at all. Everything is working fine.
quick question. when you used an AV to HDMI adapter for systems like the genesis. did you get a green bar on the right side of the screen ? I have one that I use but my genesis and SNES get alot of ghosting images until I unplug and re plug the yellow cable back into the adapter. I'm looking into one of these hyperkinetic cables for the snes and genesis but I was curious about the adapter since you mentioned testing it out.
so the Genesis is one of the systems that really tends to have a lot of overscan area, that would be colored bars on either the far left or far right hand side of the gammage. I've noticed the Genesis tends to do that more than other systems, so don't freak out if you see that. On the ossc, you can actually apply a mask to cover that up.
@@RoXolid yeah the genesis is the only one that has had issues with the AV adapters. SNES is fixable but I have to do it with every game that I switch out which is why I was looking into the hyperkinetic cables.
I'm hoping that the hyperkin cable does the job too. Because when I plug these two consoles into the regular connection on my tv without the adapter theres no green bars at all.
32x and model 1 Genesis owners I hope you have your model 2 32x cable because you're going to need it. When I tried to run it through the 32 x I got no sound. So instead of using my model 132 x cable I had to use the model 1 cable that came with my HDMI cable and then plug that into my model 2 to 32x but then again all I got was mono sound also because I have the Sega CD for some reason I had to disconnect the line from the headphone jack on the back of the Sega CD... and of course because I was currently using HD retrovision cables for my Genesis and Saturn I figured I would try that experiment. Saturn adapter that works on the HD retrovision Genesis cables by the way will not work with the hyperkin cable for some reason you get audio but no video
I've got one of these on preorder but I'm on the fence..... I love the idea of Genesis component cables and something like a retrotink/ossc/framemeiester but the price is SO hard to justify because I essentially would only be using those cables/devices for my Genesis. I've seen some side-by-side video of this Hyperkin cable next to an OSSC...looked pretty comparable but obviously wasn't on par. But for the $30 price tag it just might be worth it!
I'm actually editing a video showing this cable next to HD retrovision cables and an ossc, the difference is pretty noticeable.but as you've also stated yourself, the difference in price is pretty drastic as well
@@RoXolid very interested in seeing that edit! I found out that Pound is about a month or so away from releasing their Sega HD cable....I was a fan of their OG Xbox cable so I think I'll hold off until their release!
Would this work with a Sega Nomad as well? I bought this cable along with the one for the SNES/N64/GameCube, PS1/PS2, And Original Xbox. I made my own A/V board that supports Composite, RGB + C-Sync, and Audio (from the 8-pin DIN or headphone jack from the front of the Genesis Model 1) and it works without issues. Had to fix the audio and c-sync wires as they broke off of the 8-pin DIN, but it works really good with my $20 DVDO Edge.
@@RoXolid Cool. I don't have a Nomad yet (cheap ones on eBay are listed as broken and the other ones that have been repaired are going for hundreds of dollars). My SNES has a shadowing issue and I think it's the power bricks that aren't UL listed. No shadowing with my GameCube or Genesis Model 1 with the RCA switching power supply that's UL listed or the other Genesis Model 1 power brick I purchased recently. I might go on eBay and buy the appropriate adapters. It works on my Nomad, however, the audio is having issues and I have no idea if it's a loose wire that's causing the audio dropouts or the board itself is acting strange.
I wondered if anyone was going to get that joke, LOL it's not 100% accurate, something I was not aware of until yesterday. I'm actually in the process of editing a follow-up to this video which will actually show differences in video quality between this and HD retrovision cables
@@BakiX I've already done a video comparing the HD retrovision cables to the mega Retron HD, I don't know that I feel the need to do another video that's basically a variant on the same theme
I heard the adapter included for the model 1 doesn't fit right and will cause damage to the port on the back of the system. So, Should I sell my mib model 1 that says high definition graphics on the top of the unit (supposed to be the best version of the model 1) and buy a mib 3/4 motherboard model 2 (better than a full motherboard because of the sound chip installed) and the hd retrovision cable, keep my mib model 1 and buy an HD retrovision cable with adapters, buy the mib model 2 3/4 motherboard and a hdtv cable, or a mib model 3 and an hdtv cable. I do have a spending limit but want the best picture on an insignia tv.
The shape of the pins more accurately matches the shape of the Neo Geo AES. I'd keep that Model 1 and go with HD Retrovision cables and a RetroTink myself.
Can you please tell me if this cable run fine with Pokemon Stadium 1 and Pokemon Stadium 2?! i have problem with those games using a converter, they keep flashing the screen.
Do you own a Sega Saturn? IF you do own one do you own the HD retro vision genesis cable to Saturn adapter? In theory plug Saturn adapter into this cable plug into Saturn and HDMI Saturn.
I love being able to play my old consoles on Twitch and through my modern gear, and I don't think I'll ever buy another converter or cable for the setup without consulting your channel. Do you have a Patreon?
Thanks so much for the kind words! Yes, I think the Patreon Link should be in the pinned post... Did I create a pinned post.. crud, better double check that, but Patreon.com/RoXolid is the link.
I don't think so, if memory serves me, and I could be wrong, but I thought the Master System 2 just had the 1 output for the RF Modulator, I don't think it has AV out.
@@RoXolid I'm sure your right... I'm buying a master system 2 on Thursday and looking at videos it only has RF. So does the maser system "1" have AV? Sorry for the nooby questions... I remember playing games like Alex Kidd and Wonderboy when I was a kid... With the master system 2 I don't mind the lack of "HD" for those games.
@@RoXolid Have you ever heard of the Analogue Mega SG RGT 85? I know it's a little on the expensive side... However comparing what it can do and comparing that to what it would cost to get a genesis and 32 bit adapter and the cables/equipment to make it "almost" HD makes me think it may be cheaper to just buy the Mega SG. What do you think? th-cam.com/video/eBI-J7IJfy4/w-d-xo.html
Actually, it's just the Analogue SG, RGT 85 is Shawn Long, the TH-camr who posted that video. I don't have one, Analogue makes exceptional equipment. If you have the budget for it it's a great way to play from what I've heard.
I dont know if im the only one... But mine has stopped giving sound all together. It just gives a fuzzy noise or goes silent alltogether... Drives me nuts ☹️
@@RoXolid yeah ive reached out and they promised to send me a new one. The strange thing is that in the beginning the sound would work for about 20-30mins, then there was this strange fade out of sound and just plain white noise and finally No sound alltogether.. super bummed :(
@@RoXolid yeah. im thinking it's the cart slot now. I've tried connecting with the old RF adapter and I can get games on the everdrive to work fine. But sonic and other things wont work correctly.
I bought it on amazon and was very disappointed because it doesn't even stay plugged into the master system, it falls off because it is not going all the way in. Is this only made for the sega genesis?
glad to see this video, the others so far usually shit on this cable and shill the retro tink box or some other multi hundred dollar unit within their so called review of this cable. Infact i think they play the same games and just repeat the same talking points others have said not knowing what they are actually talking about or understanding it. People dont want a cheap solution to bring their older systems to a bearable playing ability on HDTV. One guy said about the image being dark with this cable, well adjust your TV brightness/contrast, hell games on the ps4 i turn up the brightness out of preference myself if its not to my liking.
They all have their place, really. Is this going to be my personal go-to solution, no, but I am already invested in my OSSC and HD Retrovision cables. But I also have the perspective to know that this isn't designed for me, and that is an ok thing. I still appreciate what it is trying to do and who it is trying to do it for.
@@RoXolid well said and thanks again for the honest video. I Think i forgot to sub but will..cleared out my subs from the shillary same video/different creator type deal
No, the Master System II did not have the proper outputs to connect to this, only RF. There are mods for the Master System II to enable RGB but stock it wouldn't work.
Do you know if its upscaling a 240p or 480i signal? Since your saying that its kind of blurry making me think its misinterpreting the signal as 480i. A quick way to test would be to check the bonus stage of sonic 1. Heres a link that shows how it the signal could be wrong. www.hdretrovision.com/240p
Not sure, but if you notice when I am talking about the gameplay I mention I do think it is an interlaced signal. I think I reference 720i actually, since that's what this cable upscales to.
@@RoXolid I usually skip around videos to see what the footage looked like. Didn't even know 720i was a thing. If you wanna test to see if it is 240p signal then do the sonic 1 bonus stage test. Ive tested multiple tvs and it helps out a lot.
@@RoXolid I was never a fan of the 5. The fact that it's emulation on carts turned me off and I always thought of it as over rated. Their stand alone consoles with hardware based play are better to me. Plus the controller with the R5 was terrible.
Simple answer to this question. No. Dont buy these. Why? Because they use cheap converter chips inside the box attached to the cable which INCORRECTLY interprets the video signal it receives as 480i (or 576i in PAL Land) NOT 240p (or 288p in PAL Land). The result is a smeared blurred mess when images are moving around (which tends to happen in a video game!). Avoid.
9:55 lol you got rick rolled... quick wikipedia search confirms at least the timing: never gonna give u up 1987, sms double dragon 1988. never gonna give never gonna give...
It's not an excuse, it's an understanding of the market. A)Did you lose your Composite cable for your Sega System? Instead of replacing it with the same thing, which will look terrible, here's a better option. B) Are you looking for the best picture out there and you don't have a spending limit? Then you want HD Retrovision Cables and an OSSC/Framemeister. Different customers have different needs. That's why you can go to the car dealership and get a Cruze if that fits your needs, a Silverado if that fits your needs or a Corvette if that fits your needs!
There is such as thing as a casual gamer. Not everyone wants to spend $1400 to get one retro System to look super super clean. Some just want it to look good, and that's great!
Precisely. When I started back in retro gaming several years ago I was perfectly happy with my Retron5. It's still a good machine. That being said, I'm now more invested in how and what I want to play, so my tastes and needs have changed. And that's perfectly OK.
I wouldn't say it's crap at all. It is an easy way to connecto your old consoles to an HDMI TV. You get what you pay for and this is vastly better than those AV2HDMI adapters
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I love star wars arcade for 32x. I wish it was on the Saturn as well tho
Totally agree. In fact the new 1Up Arcade Star Wars cabinet they just announced will be my first arcade cabinet
I just ordered one of these HDTV Adapters. I’m hoping they’re more improved now in 2022. I noticed that most of the comments are 2-3 years old. Good video.
They have not made any changes to these cable since they originally released, I would not expect anything different than what I showed here. Good and bad.
RGB lines in a Sega Genesis are severely Overdrivin. after burner 32x and Space Harrier 32x are almost unplayable in some levels. I tore apart both the adapters and cut the Red Green and Blue lines going in and inserted a 75ohm resistor in each line on the pound adapter and a 33ohm resistor in the lines on the Hyperkin. major improvement!
Weird that I was literally searching this topic last night and watched your last videos on hd cords.. And now here's this!!
I'm in your head! LOL, thanks for checking it out!!
Rewatching your older videos again today Gary. I am under the weather and am just relaxing this Sunday. Gonna try and game this evening. Hope you and the family are good!
Dude, feel better man
This is an awesome in depth review of the cable. I am also happy that people/companies are making more stuff for the Genesis.
Agreed, we need more accessories for Sega consoles!!
Thanks for the review and especially for testing the Master System.
You're welcome, the Master Systems is one of my FAVORITE systems now! A friend of mine had one in grade school, but I never did.
@@RoXolid I didn't know anyone who had one growing up and got my first SMS almost two years ago. Been hooked ever since.
Such an underrated and underappreciated system.
It has generated interest for the mark 3 and SG-1000 and learning about them. As well as getting a few of those games.
Had to order it through Amazon because Castlemania as usual is sold out. This is much better than what I had cobbled together.
Completely Understand
That is really neat my friends and as you said before is convenient.
That it is!
I think I will just stick with using my Hyperkin Mega HD for now and then get the Analogue SG later. I think this cable is great though and much needed.
Yes, the Mega Retron HD does look better than this setup.
Second thumbs up! I might actually get this. Im wanting to get Everdrives for my MD and SNES so this would b sweet to get at...THE SAME TIME :o
Just realized its kinda the first comment...kinda rhymes with va
Thanks so much Ben!
have you had issues with the Model 1 adapter? It takes me a few tries to get it to work, and I heard that the adapter is not the correct one... I'm just scared I'll mess my console (I have the model 1 obviously). I cannot afford the more expensive options at this moment, that is why I went with this cable.
Mine plugged right in, however I am aware of the issue and have filmed a follow up to this which will be live tomorrow (Patreon supporters will have access to it shortly)
@@RoXolid awesome, I'm glad it's not my console
What do you like better: this cable for original genesis, or the mega retron hd system? Crazy that the mega retron is not much more expensive than just the cable
Great question. So I'd honestly say the Mega Retron. The colors are better, it's more responsive and has less latency than this cable.
If this is anything like a pound cable then you can use this with the 32x also. It's actually kind of perfect for it because the adapter cable for the model 1 is the exact cable that came with the 32x originally. The only extra thing you need to get is a model 2 to 32x link cable to plug into the model 1 adapter then the 32x and the hd cable plugs into the video out of the 32x to the tv. The only problem is that most gen 2 to 32x link cables that you can find on the net still have the 5 volt pin on both ends of the connector, if it is there you will have to pull it or it will damage both systems by providing double the 5 volt power to both. This cable also works with the turbo grafix 16, the SMS and a few others that have a din or mini din out.
It's very similar, also, Castlemaniagames.com carries replacement 32x cables too
@@RoXolid Cool, thanks for the info it will save me time pulling pins. Keep the videos coming man I'm digging your content.
@@happenstance7530 thanks so much!
I just picked one up. Other than Sonic 2 losing some detail, on my 4k TV, it actually looks pretty darn good.
It's really not bad at all
It even cleaned up the fan game, Sonic Megamix! Now I can actually play it haha
Good deal!
How well does the Hyperkin cable work withGames like Street Fighter 2, NHL ‘94 or Tecmo Super Bowl as they use a special 256x244 rendering that makes the screen shimmer and show horizontal lines on the Hyperkin Megaretron HD
I must say, I got a little excited at your review on this product as I have really been struggling to connect my SMS2 to LED TV, but then I saw the RF connector and realised it wouldn't fit on the no US models. However, that RCA composite to HDMI box you showed was interesting as that might just work - do you know if the RF signal from the SMS2 is connected to the yellow connector would that transmit sound as well?
Nope, there's nothing that will directly take a SMS2 and give you RCA outs. I believe there's a mod that can get you composite output, but that's not something I've dug into.
@Roxolid Productions, i just bought the pound cable for genesis....do you think it works with 32x and sega cd?
As long as it has the Genesis 2 cable it should
Dumb question but I have a master system 2 (PAL) will the genesis and mega drive cable work with the master system 2?
I am also curious on how it would work with the Master System 2. I recently looked at a scart solution for the master system and mega drive, but reviews of the cable stated that it didn't work with master system 2. If this HD cable was compatible with the MS2, it would be amazing!
No, the Master System 2 only has RF out so there is no option to connect it via anything except for coaxial cable
There is no option for anything besides RF out on the Master System 2
@@RoXolid anyway I can buy the correct cable?
@@heyheyhey0h It doesn't exist, the Master System 2 only has 1 output, for RF, there's no way to adapt that to anything else.
I have to assume that the MS being less crisp would be due to the MS having a lower resolution than the MD/ Genesis. Good review, thanks!
Most cheap devices don't line double or triple and most don't handle 240p correctly, like 480i with 15khz drop shadows kind of stuff. For 30$ tho...not bad at all.
I think It might have been called the “HDTV Cable” instead of “HDMI cable” to reduce the chance that folks think you need a model 1 labeled “high definition graphics” by placing emphasis on the display device instead of the console. Nothing they could do would completely avoid that problem, but it might help.
Actually, this is a deliberate choice from Hyperkin. When a cable has the HDTV indicator it will have a bit of upscaling to it.
RetroTINK still seems like a better investment. I love the button action on the hyperkin 🕹 style controllers very tight and responsive and recessing the cord into controller base to prevent cable fatigue was brilliant idea.
100%!
I just can't afford the RetroTink... So anything else will have to do, and these Hyperkin cables works like a charm for me.
Does anybody know the compatibility with genesis video cables and the neo geo aes?
I read the detailed description. It's a welcome addition to videos. I noticed the fair use section near the bottom. I was wondering; do you ever have an issue with people or companies calling out your vids for copyright? If so, have you ever pointed to the explanation in your descriptions and by doing this, resolved the copyright issue?
I have in the past, Capcom and Konami were bad when the channel first started and this did help
Does that inline box do any upscaling or does it just provide a box to house the wiring crossover.
It's claimed that it upscales it to 720p. It does a little bit, but not a ton.
Thanks for the upload. How are these cables used with a Majesco Genesis model 3? I can't get the Hyperkin version to output any picture at all. Everything is working fine.
I don't have one of those to test, sorry
quick question. when you used an AV to HDMI adapter for systems like the genesis. did you get a green bar on the right side of the screen ? I have one that I use but my genesis and SNES get alot of ghosting images until I unplug and re plug the yellow cable back into the adapter. I'm looking into one of these hyperkinetic cables for the snes and genesis but I was curious about the adapter since you mentioned testing it out.
so the Genesis is one of the systems that really tends to have a lot of overscan area, that would be colored bars on either the far left or far right hand side of the gammage. I've noticed the Genesis tends to do that more than other systems, so don't freak out if you see that. On the ossc, you can actually apply a mask to cover that up.
@@RoXolid yeah the genesis is the only one that has had issues with the AV adapters. SNES is fixable but I have to do it with every game that I switch out which is why I was looking into the hyperkinetic cables.
The only way I know of to eliminate this is with either an OSSC or Framemeister
I'm hoping that the hyperkin cable does the job too. Because when I plug these two consoles into the regular connection on my tv without the adapter theres no green bars at all.
32x and model 1 Genesis owners I hope you have your model 2 32x cable because you're going to need it. When I tried to run it through the 32 x I got no sound. So instead of using my model 132 x cable I had to use the model 1 cable that came with my HDMI cable and then plug that into my model 2 to 32x but then again all I got was mono sound also because I have the Sega CD for some reason I had to disconnect the line from the headphone jack on the back of the Sega CD... and of course because I was currently using HD retrovision cables for my Genesis and Saturn I figured I would try that experiment. Saturn adapter that works on the HD retrovision Genesis cables by the way will not work with the hyperkin cable for some reason you get audio but no video
I have a Mega Drive 2. You say it has a cable meant for Mega Drive 1. Does it definitely work on the model 2's?
Yeah. It has a separate cable to plug into the Model 1. It's normally setup for the Model 2.
The main reason the HDMI adapter looks better than an AV to HDMI upscaler is because it's using the RGB signal.
I've got one of these on preorder but I'm on the fence.....
I love the idea of Genesis component cables and something like a retrotink/ossc/framemeiester but the price is SO hard to justify because I essentially would only be using those cables/devices for my Genesis.
I've seen some side-by-side video of this Hyperkin cable next to an OSSC...looked pretty comparable but obviously wasn't on par. But for the $30 price tag it just might be worth it!
I'm actually editing a video showing this cable next to HD retrovision cables and an ossc, the difference is pretty noticeable.but as you've also stated yourself, the difference in price is pretty drastic as well
@@RoXolid very interested in seeing that edit! I found out that Pound is about a month or so away from releasing their Sega HD cable....I was a fan of their OG Xbox cable so I think I'll hold off until their release!
That video is actually live now for all $1 and higher supporters at Patreon.com/RoXolid!
Check out scart to component. That’s what I use for all my sega systems
Would this work with a Sega Nomad as well? I bought this cable along with the one for the SNES/N64/GameCube, PS1/PS2, And Original Xbox. I made my own A/V board that supports Composite, RGB + C-Sync, and Audio (from the 8-pin DIN or headphone jack from the front of the Genesis Model 1) and it works without issues. Had to fix the audio and c-sync wires as they broke off of the 8-pin DIN, but it works really good with my $20 DVDO Edge.
It should, it uses the same connector as the Model 2 Genesis
@@RoXolid Cool. I don't have a Nomad yet (cheap ones on eBay are listed as broken and the other ones that have been repaired are going for hundreds of dollars). My SNES has a shadowing issue and I think it's the power bricks that aren't UL listed. No shadowing with my GameCube or Genesis Model 1 with the RCA switching power supply that's UL listed or the other Genesis Model 1 power brick I purchased recently. I might go on eBay and buy the appropriate adapters.
It works on my Nomad, however, the audio is having issues and I have no idea if it's a loose wire that's causing the audio dropouts or the board itself is acting strange.
5:06 LOL
Also, I saw elsewhere that the cable adapter is actually incorrect and can damage a Model 1. Is this correct?
I wondered if anyone was going to get that joke, LOL
it's not 100% accurate, something I was not aware of until yesterday. I'm actually in the process of editing a follow-up to this video which will actually show differences in video quality between this and HD retrovision cables
@@RoXolid You should also consider trying to compare these cables to the Mega Retron HD.
@@BakiX I've already done a video comparing the HD retrovision cables to the mega Retron HD, I don't know that I feel the need to do another video that's basically a variant on the same theme
is it true the model 1 adapter is wired wrong or is it people just repeating this? i heard this as well.
I posted a follow up to this video today and addressed it. See the follow up here:
th-cam.com/video/uxPxDyF6JUM/w-d-xo.html
I heard the adapter included for the model 1 doesn't fit right and will cause damage to the port on the back of the system. So, Should I sell my mib model 1 that says high definition graphics on the top of the unit (supposed to be the best version of the model 1) and buy a mib 3/4 motherboard model 2 (better than a full motherboard because of the sound chip installed) and the hd retrovision cable, keep my mib model 1 and buy an HD retrovision cable with adapters, buy the mib model 2 3/4 motherboard and a hdtv cable, or a mib model 3 and an hdtv cable. I do have a spending limit but want the best picture on an insignia tv.
The shape of the pins more accurately matches the shape of the Neo Geo AES. I'd keep that Model 1 and go with HD Retrovision cables and a RetroTink myself.
I’ve never played the double dragon version on Sega Master system, but the Atari 7800 one is outrageously difficult.
I think the games you showed with it look great, I have an ossc, I think this looks a lot cleaner.
sweet / hooking up to the mark 3 = sg-1000 titles in 720p
True!
Will this work with sega saturn?
Are the Genesis cable compatible with 32X?
Yes they are
Can you please tell me if this cable run fine with Pokemon Stadium 1 and Pokemon Stadium 2?! i have problem with those games using a converter, they keep flashing the screen.
I don't own any Pokemon games, sorry.
This gadget is sweet...
And it doesn't break the bank....
And it makes it easier to connect to your TV.
Do you own a Sega Saturn? IF you do own one do you own the HD retro vision genesis cable to Saturn adapter? In theory plug Saturn adapter into this cable plug into Saturn and HDMI Saturn.
I do, and you know what, that's a great idea! I will have to try that out!
I love being able to play my old consoles on Twitch and through my modern gear, and I don't think I'll ever buy another converter or cable for the setup without consulting your channel.
Do you have a Patreon?
Thanks so much for the kind words! Yes, I think the Patreon Link should be in the pinned post... Did I create a pinned post.. crud, better double check that, but Patreon.com/RoXolid is the link.
Hello, thank you very much for your videos. The cable is not working on french megadrive 1 (Pal)
Hmmm, I don't have any idea there. It may be a video output setting on PAL vs NTSC where it only outputs NTSC resolutions?
i have model 1 of sega genesis i’m trying to figure how to get it on my smart tv
Does it take the RGB signal from the Genesis or composite signal?
Looking at the results I believe Composite, but that's only a theory
master system 2 with RGB mod?
This might sound weird as I'm a noob to retro gaming... But does this cable work on a master system 2?
I don't think so, if memory serves me, and I could be wrong, but I thought the Master System 2 just had the 1 output for the RF Modulator, I don't think it has AV out.
@@RoXolid I'm sure your right... I'm buying a master system 2 on Thursday and looking at videos it only has RF. So does the maser system "1" have AV? Sorry for the nooby questions... I remember playing games like Alex Kidd and Wonderboy when I was a kid... With the master system 2 I don't mind the lack of "HD" for those games.
Correct, the original Master System has the AV output jack in addition to the RF output.
@@RoXolid Have you ever heard of the Analogue Mega SG RGT 85? I know it's a little on the expensive side... However comparing what it can do and comparing that to what it would cost to get a genesis and 32 bit adapter and the cables/equipment to make it "almost" HD makes me think it may be cheaper to just buy the Mega SG. What do you think?
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Actually, it's just the Analogue SG, RGT 85 is Shawn Long, the TH-camr who posted that video. I don't have one, Analogue makes exceptional equipment. If you have the budget for it it's a great way to play from what I've heard.
I dont know if im the only one... But mine has stopped giving sound all together. It just gives a fuzzy noise or goes silent alltogether... Drives me nuts ☹️
Mine still works like new, I would recommend reaching out to hyperkin on social media and seeing if they can help
@@RoXolid yeah ive reached out and they promised to send me a new one. The strange thing is that in the beginning the sound would work for about 20-30mins, then there was this strange fade out of sound and just plain white noise and finally No sound alltogether.. super bummed :(
Does your system output sound normally via AV cables?
@@RoXolid yeah, i probably got bad cables or so..
I'm having issues with this on my Model 1 High Def Graphics model. Can't get Sonic games to run properly, even via my Mega Everdrive Pro.
Not sure, have you cleaned the games and system recently?
@@RoXolid yeah. im thinking it's the cart slot now. I've tried connecting with the old RF adapter and I can get games on the everdrive to work fine. But sonic and other things wont work correctly.
That's weird for sure
this cable improves the audio too?
It doesn't do much for the audio, but then again the stock Genesis audio is very good
I bought it on amazon and was very disappointed because it doesn't even stay plugged into the master system, it falls off because it is not going all the way in. Is this only made for the sega genesis?
It's only advertised for the Genesis, but the Master System & model 1 Genesis have the same port. Mine had no issues with being loose
@@RoXolid thanks, at least I can return it.
@@omarsirhan that is true
glad to see this video, the others so far usually shit on this cable and shill the retro tink box or some other multi hundred dollar unit within their so called review of this cable. Infact i think they play the same games and just repeat the same talking points others have said not knowing what they are actually talking about or understanding it. People dont want a cheap solution to bring their older systems to a bearable playing ability on HDTV. One guy said about the image being dark with this cable, well adjust your TV brightness/contrast, hell games on the ps4 i turn up the brightness out of preference myself if its not to my liking.
They all have their place, really. Is this going to be my personal go-to solution, no, but I am already invested in my OSSC and HD Retrovision cables. But I also have the perspective to know that this isn't designed for me, and that is an ok thing. I still appreciate what it is trying to do and who it is trying to do it for.
@@RoXolid well said and thanks again for the honest video. I Think i forgot to sub but will..cleared out my subs from the shillary same video/different creator type deal
Will thanks a ton!
Can you do a review on the Hyperkin HDMI cable too for GameCube, N64, and SNES?
Please and thank you and it will be a better option...
Planning on it when it ships. I also have the PS1/2 cable that I need to review.
So will it work on a non modded Genesis Mk1?
Yeah you don't need to mod it
Does it work on master system 2?
No, the Master System II did not have the proper outputs to connect to this, only RF. There are mods for the Master System II to enable RGB but stock it wouldn't work.
The adapter works on the neo geo aes not genesis 1 and hd cable works on aes i have one and works great
Omg I just got my mega drive a while ago and the games where blurry this is just what I need
You never showed side by side comparisons and did not provide a link to where to buy the adapter.
Check the pinned comment for the link, and it's a review not a comparison so not sure what you're looking for a comparison to?
Do you know if its upscaling a 240p or 480i signal? Since your saying that its kind of blurry making me think its misinterpreting the signal as 480i. A quick way to test would be to check the bonus stage of sonic 1. Heres a link that shows how it the signal could be wrong. www.hdretrovision.com/240p
Not sure, but if you notice when I am talking about the gameplay I mention I do think it is an interlaced signal. I think I reference 720i actually, since that's what this cable upscales to.
@@RoXolid I usually skip around videos to see what the footage looked like. Didn't even know 720i was a thing. If you wanna test to see if it is 240p signal then do the sonic 1 bonus stage test. Ive tested multiple tvs and it helps out a lot.
I don't think 720i is a thing, it was more of a reference than anything.
Will it work for model to model three
I believe so but I don't have one to test
But is it NiiiiIIiiiIiiiIice?
It's a bit too smooth actually.
I love hyperkin. I feel some give them hate.... WHY? They aren't perfect but they are near perfection for their prices
They screwed up big with the Retron 5. Most never saw that they actually admitted their screw up and fell on that sword.
@@RoXolid I was never a fan of the 5. The fact that it's emulation on carts turned me off and I always thought of it as over rated.
Their stand alone consoles with hardware based play are better to me.
Plus the controller with the R5 was terrible.
@@VideoGameXDomain The controller is terrible but I will say the picture quality of the Retron5 is legit terrific.
Thanks Garrrrrryyy
Simple answer to this question. No. Dont buy these. Why? Because they use cheap converter chips inside the box attached to the cable which INCORRECTLY interprets the video signal it receives as 480i (or 576i in PAL Land) NOT 240p (or 288p in PAL Land). The result is a smeared blurred mess when images are moving around (which tends to happen in a video game!). Avoid.
Do you RC?
I do still race, but haven't had much of a chance since March or April. I'm going to be starting up for indoor season in the next few weeks
9:55 lol you got rick rolled...
quick wikipedia search confirms at least the timing: never gonna give u up 1987, sms double dragon 1988.
never gonna give never gonna give...
LOL
Пожалуйста по русски объясните вкратце, я не понимаю(((
I'm sorry I do not understand
i dis what you said
Huh?
I spent £35 on this cable, what a waste of my money
I'm so sick of the excuses for devices like this, "It's for the casual customer...blah blah blah".
It's not an excuse, it's an understanding of the market.
A)Did you lose your Composite cable for your Sega System? Instead of replacing it with the same thing, which will look terrible, here's a better option.
B) Are you looking for the best picture out there and you don't have a spending limit? Then you want HD Retrovision Cables and an OSSC/Framemeister.
Different customers have different needs. That's why you can go to the car dealership and get a Cruze if that fits your needs, a Silverado if that fits your needs or a Corvette if that fits your needs!
There is such as thing as a casual gamer. Not everyone wants to spend $1400 to get one retro System to look super super clean. Some just want it to look good, and that's great!
Precisely. When I started back in retro gaming several years ago I was perfectly happy with my Retron5. It's still a good machine. That being said, I'm now more invested in how and what I want to play, so my tastes and needs have changed. And that's perfectly OK.
Beware this cable are crap
I wouldn't say it's crap at all. It is an easy way to connecto your old consoles to an HDMI TV. You get what you pay for and this is vastly better than those AV2HDMI adapters
So does it connect to model 2 genesis?