LM8UU and LM8LUU PTFE (Teflon) hybrid 3D printed bearing

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2016
  • This is a new bearing I designed based on the standard LM8UU and LM8LUU 8mm bearings.
    It makes use of commonly available PTFE tubing for the area which is in contact with the linear shaft, combined with a printable bearing housing. This has quite a few advantages; as it's light weight, PTFE has an extremely low friction coefficient and if the tube wears over time it can simply be replaced, without the need to dismantling the linear shaft assembly.
    All the files can be downloaded on thingiverse below:
    www.thingiverse.com/thing:173...
    Another design using the same principle, but 4mm PTFE rod
    • 3D Printed Camera Slider
    The PTFE and also 4mm O/D Acetal rods can be purchased from here:
    www.directplastics.co.uk/ptfe...
    www.directplastics.co.uk/acet...
    coder-tronics.com/
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  • @MrPao987
    @MrPao987 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great idea, I would suggest to make a little twist, literally twist the PTFE tubes inside the housing, so that you get a more even contact surface with the rod. Just spiralize the slots.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny enough I did make a design with that but not uploaded it to Thingiverse, will see if I can dig it out as not used my printer in over 3 years

    • @wiradharma7030
      @wiradharma7030 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That tube contain silicone, i also use teflon bearing but i made it using ptfe rods.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wiradharma7030 I have tried it with PTFE solid rods as well and they performed ok for a month or so of fairly heavy use, but did deform over time from creepage, I think a better long term solution is Delrin or other harder plastic which still has a fairly low friction level.

  • @nadravface
    @nadravface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you!!! I was looking exactly for this solution

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries hope it proves useful and feel free to share any makes on Thingiverse

  • @stephenprescott8105
    @stephenprescott8105 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is very interesting concept !!!!

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, I think it needs some refinement but could certainly be promising for some applications. I have made a camera slider based on this principle with solid 4mm PTFE rod and uploaded a video, all the parts are on Thingiverse.

  • @balexfox
    @balexfox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's amazing idea thank I will test this

  • @abrahanmora9306
    @abrahanmora9306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ingenious idea

  • @vdubs4life1964
    @vdubs4life1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brilliant!

  • @piezaspararobotica
    @piezaspararobotica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muy interesante,,lo probare...Saludos

  • @wesleymoraisdesouza7436
    @wesleymoraisdesouza7436 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actualy my DIY printer runs with a standard lm10uu + ptfe ones. In my case the ptfe ones solve the lm10uu backlash

  • @-Gunnarsson
    @-Gunnarsson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accuracy and durability is the question

  • @daveyhi3154
    @daveyhi3154 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that's a great idea! I'd suggest changing the title as otherwise the vid looks like a vid about the usual printed bearing.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair point have added a little bit to the title

  • @har2191
    @har2191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice!!!!!

  • @chloemcholoe3280
    @chloemcholoe3280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never had luck with 3d printed bushings. but I'm gonna try for science :D either they lock up during certain angels or moves or they're way too lose.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you do probably best to use a Delrin or Acrylic rod as the PTFE wore down after a few weeks of testing and also exhibited creepage. They should work much better on a Z axis as less pressure on 1 side compared to the X and Y, some rests of the testing are discussed in the comments of the Thingiverse link.

    • @chloemcholoe3280
      @chloemcholoe3280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CoderTronics aww those are impossible to find here! not to metnion i'm worry they'll bend under my heavy Y carriage and X carriage

  • @SergeDzus
    @SergeDzus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Отличная идея!

    • @user-rd3lj4gn4s
      @user-rd3lj4gn4s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      А разве втулка выполненная из PLA будет скользить хуже?

  • @baselsalam
    @baselsalam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So just print in PLA?
    Cant wait to try it out for my i3 (Malyan M150).
    I'll probably print all the sizes 8.2/8.3/8.4, then disassemble the linear shafts to see which one fits :)
    Or is it quite quick to take out a shaft, try, put it back, print.. repeat?

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it won't hurt to print the samples first and see what accuracy you are getting with your printer, then maybe looking at loosing a rod to check and see. I actually had a spare 8mm linear rod lying around for initial testing. Think about filling the PTFE tube with household silicone, this should help stop the tube being compressed.

    • @daveyhi3154
      @daveyhi3154 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know how that works out :-)

    • @caseycraig633
      @caseycraig633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that the rods on my x axis are 6mm. Is there a 3D model on Thingiverse that I could print for that size rod that acetal rods would still work with?

    • @caseycraig633
      @caseycraig633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a link for these prints on thingiverse?

  • @forrestallison1879
    @forrestallison1879 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow, how are these holding up now? still using the original ones? Super interesting design

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tested some solid PTFE (4mm rods) variants over 3 months on the Y axis, over time they did wear due to the weight of the carriage etc, you can see a similar set used on the 3D printed carbon fibre camera slider I made. I think PTFE will be fine for the Z axis as a more even all round pressure on the rods. When I have time I have some 4mm Acetal rods I want to test as these should be more robust, but my printer is currently in storage.

  • @caseycraig633
    @caseycraig633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you printed the green bearings? Where did you get the Teflon tubes?

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, from a company in the UK www.directplastics.co.uk , I would use Acetal though as harder wearing, the PTFE rod should be ok for the Z axis as the load is not biased to one side. This company sells the Acetal rods, as well as other plastics and very cheap,even after postage.

    • @caseycraig633
      @caseycraig633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What filament type did you use to print the bearing? And how do I know what size rods to get? Sorry for the 20 questions. I’m pretty new at this.

  • @user-rd3lj4gn4s
    @user-rd3lj4gn4s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What diameter have transparent filament, which you insert in bearing? 1.75mm?

    • @ordnanceant2254
      @ordnanceant2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not filament they are PTFE rods, Acrylic rods would be more durable though. The diameter of the rods were 4mm

    • @user-rd3lj4gn4s
      @user-rd3lj4gn4s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ordnanceant2254 it is inpossible to be 4mm. In 8mm hole not you can insert many of them. If it is PTFE roads, then 2.2mm.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-rd3lj4gn4s www.thingiverse.com/thing:1739340

  • @333donutboy
    @333donutboy ปีที่แล้ว

    This a great idea. Is this something that you still use?

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  ปีที่แล้ว

      I used it for awhile with solid PTFE rods inserted (4mm), but these slowly were warn down. I intended to try with Acrylic and Delrin rods as much harder, but printer has been in storage since 2018 so just not had the time. We have a house now so intended to get a workshop going again in the next year and will test them.

    • @333donutboy
      @333donutboy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CoderTronics I made a version of this yesterday where the bearing are built into my x carriage (HEVO). I used 4mm PTFE tubing I had laying around. It slides a little snug but the steppers don't have an issue. I'm thinking at some point making a super cheap laser engraver. I think that this technique with some carbon fiber arrow shafts would make a decent axis. Appreciate you sharing this idea and look forward to some more testing. I'm subbing so I don't miss out.

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@333donutboy no worries, my printer is direct drive and quite a heavy head assembly, for a laser cutter if you can keep the head weight down it will probably work better, you will probably find the PTFE will wear eventual but can be pushed out and replaced potentially.

  • @fogcc1015
    @fogcc1015 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do you find ptfe ???

    • @CoderTronics
      @CoderTronics  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try here:
      PTFE www.directplastics.co.uk/ptfe-rod/
      Acetal www.directplastics.co.uk/acetal-rod/

    • @fogcc1015
      @fogcc1015 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok, but i live in France.... thanks for your answer

    • @junang3
      @junang3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coaxial cable should have PTFE insulator on the center wire. Ex: www.awcwire.com/FAQ-PTFE-Coaxial-Cable

    • @chloemcholoe3280
      @chloemcholoe3280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      litteraly any 3d printing store

  • @junang3
    @junang3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coaxial cable should have PTFE insulator on the center wire. Ex: www.awcwire.com/FAQ-PTFE-Coaxial-Cable