Barcelona & Real Madrid's Greatest Transfer Controversy: Alfredo di Stefano
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- Barcelona & Real Madrid's Greatest Transfer Controversy: Alfredo di Stefano
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Alfredo Di Stefano is entwined with the legend of Real Madrid and their early dominance of the European Cup. He and they won five in a row. But he might have been a Barcelona player and, actually, fell into Madrid’s possession courtesy of an historical quirk.
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#Barcelona #RealMadrid #AlfredodiStefano - กีฬา
Di Stefano is the one of the boiling points of the rivalry between RM and Barca. Beautifully explained as always. Great content and video editing everytime. Way to go Tifo. Love from India ❤️👍
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Acutally, Di Stefano played for Barça for one week
1 friendly match
Yeah, in a friendly match.
Friendly matches aren't really competitive fixtures though, and as such they don't really count.
Chris Neville
He didn’t even play a friendly match
In his 2013 interview de stefano said that he only trained with them for less then a week and that when that famous photo of him in barca shirt was taken
Barca legend
They alternated seasons for either club
There’s literally a picture of Di stefano in Blaugrana colors with Kubala.
@Kuromori Spanish federation under control of... As soon as Barcelona renounced its rights to the player transfer went in no problem at all... Which was done by an interim board after the president renounced, all under Franco regime with Bernabeu linked to Franco. All coincidences, surely.
@@IIItachIII not coincidences, more like barça didn't want him anymore, and they sold their half to madrid, that's it, franco didn't gave a fuck about football, until later on, if he really wanted madrid to win, barça wouldn't have won that many titles before alfredo di stefano happened, remeber that franco's regime started in the 1939, don't you think someone that cared so much about football wouldn't have started to favoritize madrid from the very beginning? Not until he saw madrid's potential to use them as propaganda for nationalisim
@@suchspain Franco loved football and Real Madrid as his grandson recognised... Real Madrid, before Alfredo arrived in Barcelona, was the 4th Club in Spain. So why Alfredo wanted to play for a team that never wins a league? Why he was going to refuse to play with the Copa Latina Champion? Atlético was supported by the regime and then it was Real Madrid. Both teams supported Franco. Santiago took part of the Coup d'etat of Franco.. Its simply. Alfredo never could play for Real without the Regime's intervention since Millonarios had no rights to sell Alfredo. Millonarios had on loan this player legally since Lima's Deal. In case this player moved to other team before October of 1954 needed the River Plate permission. So it was impossible Alfredo could play for Real. That's why regime banned Alfredo to play for Barça and later forced to Barcelona president to refuse his rights on this player. After October 1954 Barça had the rights of the player... But one year remaining till the date so Real Madrid and Barcelona at the end dealt with Millonarios to avoid this team claim to FiFa and got this player back to Colombia to play the last year remaining so Real wouldn't have any chance to enjoy the player. Once Spanish Association (Regime) took that weird decision, Alfredo said I am not gonna accept it, I am coming back to Buenos Aires. To avoid it, regime forced Barcelona president to refuse his rights on Alfredo and sell them to Real. Simply but Real Madrid and Fascists does not like to recognise...
@Kuromori that's not correct the transfer was made between barca and river, there are documents of the contract river plate still have them, and Di Estefano went to barcelona and was officialy introduced to the barcelona fans
@@billycorgan3934 dude you are so stupid Franco was an atlético de Madrid fan and in fact he saved barce twice from bankrupcy and they gave him 2 medals with they off not so long ago, the Franco tale was made by the inferiority complex they always had cs they are throwing all of their history to the garbage with tales like this XD
Imagine Di Stefano playing for both teams, it would be very awkward if he scored against either team
phenomenal ronaldo did that...
@@taskinkhan5871 or Luis Enrique
I can imagine franco forcing di stefano into playing a bad game on purpose if real madrid were to face barca
@@TheS1lentX Ironically enough in tifo's video they forgot to say that they actually came on an agreement to play in one season for madrid and the other for barça, and di stefano played purposely bad for real madrid, so barcelona wouldn't be as interested in signing him anymore, lmao
Franco didn't help madrid, he just used them to promote his league as one of the best
What about Michael Laudrup?
Jesus. Some of the details in the illustrations 👏
World's dumbest solution: provided by Armando Munoz Calero.
Hello there
It sounds like an attempt to imitate the Judgment of Solomon.
It was good solution. What else can he do?
@@user-yr6zt5ye7p to respect legal rights. Di Stéfano never would have played for Real due to Millonarios had no rights to sell Di Stéfano. His rights belonged to River Plate. The only reason why real madrid and Barça dealt with Millonarios was to avoid Millonarios claim to FiFa to get back him for the year remaining in Colombia. After that he was Barcelona player since Barcelona and River agreed his transfer. Only with the dictatorship intervention he could play for Real..
@@billycorgan3934 Fifa admitted Millonarios' right for Alfredo. Look at fucking 'Lima Pact. Both River and Millonarios have their rights for Alfredo. It's historical fact. which is different with you trashes from your brain my friend
It's easy to overlook the importance of the other players in that legendary team. Gento, Puskas, Kopa etc... But without them Alfredo wouldn't have won anything in Madrid.
@Ajmal Ali Jose Manuel Moreno was the crown jewel of la maquina ..he was the best talent just..
Not really have you seen distefano play? He takes free roam to the extreme
@Ajmal Ali yes he undoubtedly was the best player in the world in his time, but you don't win 5 straight European cups all by yourself.(tell that to Messi in Argentina) Bernabéu managed to round up a whole constellation of stars around ADE. They were the first true galácticos
@Ajmal Ali Di Stefano was a sub and only became a regular in 1947... Moreno was the best of the lot..Di Stefano was the overall better player though not questioning that...
@Ajmal Ali yes I'm not doubting he was the flagship and most important part of the team, but the feat of winning five straight European cups has never been done(and probably never will be) again. And in such legendary achievements name like Puskas (best European player at the time, who led the amazing Hungary 54 team that amazed the world and should have won that WorlCup final) , Gento (one of the fastest players of his time and in the HOF of Spanish players, leading Spain in the 64 European championship win) or Kopa (one of best strikers in Frances history) should be overlooked. It's like saying that pep's Barca was just Messi and 10 other guys.
You guy's make the best animated vids. Their so informative keep up the good work.
😁
You might want to seek your information elsewhere. They clearly don't know what they're talking about as they've demonstrated yet again.
@@amateurtoyhunter7513 How?
Amateur Toyhunter and yet again you’re here, you ungrateful fool
Animation? Quite a stretch...
How is there not a 30:30 special or series about RM and Barca? I’ve learn so much about the culture from your excellent videos I’m surprised there isn’t one,
di Stefano sure was hot property! 😯
Wow...... you're here👏
Game knows game 😎.
Hi
Please make a video on what happened to Fabio Coentrao. The way he just disappeared from football is so sad.
He's relive his hapiness as a fisherman. Not even joking. He own a boat, literally as a fisherman. From the video that i seen, he really is happy. Goodluck for him. What a left back.
That Real Madrid commanded by Alfredo di Stefano also reached two more European Cup finals (In 1962 against Benfica and in 1964 against Inter Milan, loosing both of them). Alfredo di Stefano was 36 and 38 years old (respectively) in that finals. In 1960 also won the first edition of the Intercontinental Cup against Peñarol.
Madrid won 6 UCL in 1960s
Most like bribery match fixing
I heard that Madrid were thinking of loaning Di Stefano to United after the Munich disaster, but as he was so important to them it seems incredibly unlikely. Would have been a nice gesture on their part though.
English FA blocked it was pretty much already agreed between the clubs
@@leemont8512 I think Man U rejected because they wanted to focus on their youth instead
It was the FA who said it would stop the progress of a British player. The best player in the world rejected because of nationalism.
both clubs and Di stefano himself were actually 100% ready to make the move happen, but the FA blocked it because of complications of him not being british lol
First timer to the channel and what a starter! But shame on you made me google "Titans of Football" sticker album...
And the script for this video was originally written on 'The Athletic'
@@TacomaParkour welcome to the meme.
Di Stefano is one of the best ever player
Top 5 easily.
Mantra Pro Between him and Cruyff for 5th spot for me
HCH Millwall Ehh Cryuff as a whole is great but as a player Di Stefano still ranks above him in my opinion. My top 4 would be Pele, Messi, Maradona and Di stefano (Not counting Josef bicameral and earlier players since we have no data).
@@Whocares0009 Cr7?
@@alik4541 CR7 would be 5th I believe.
One of the heartbreaking story of fc Barcelona.
Oh they way real plays outside the pitch fascinating 💙
Top 3 best Argentinian player of all time easily
Top 2
Maradona, Kempes and Di Stefano?
All 3 of them being top 5 players ever
@@covid699 No, Maradona, Messi and Di Stefano. For all her Woes Argentina has given birth the greatest players Barca and Madrid have ever had.
Though he was also recognized as Spanish and Columbian.
Great video as always ❤️.
Can we get a player profile on Zach Steffen, how he's improved and how he might get a chance at city with Bravo likely to leave this summer??
Di Stefano's Madrid was connected to Franco's goverment because it was succesful not the other way round. Franco's (and the army's team) was Atletico Aviacion but since Spain was very isolated in Europe at that time, they used Madrid European Cup wins as international propaganda. Even Francos goverment authorised for Barcelona's states to build the Nou Camp
That's it! Many people think the other way around.
True, Atletico (AF team) was favoured by Franco first, then Real came to the scene due to success on pitch.
It's false because why Di stefano was going to play for a team did not win? Dictatorship used Atlético and later Real Madrid. That's why Real founded European Cup, only when they got Di Stéfano and not before. That cup was created for the Regime's propaganda. Barça built Camp Nou with their own money from their members, at difference on Santiago Bernabeu stadium. Why did they need any authorisation? 😂😳
Always the Fascist propaganda...
@@billycorgan3934 respect youself, a lot of people is reading you..
The "controversy" is entirely due to the success that Madrid had AFTER signing Di Stéfano. But at the moment, people didn't think it was worth the money or the trouble. There is even a catalonian newspaper celebrating the end of the story once Barcelona left the race for Di Stéfano. At the time, he was seen as a great player, sure, but they had Kubala already, and Di Stéfano was apparently out of shape (he was't playing during all this mess) and as a rebel (he left Southamerica and went to Spain despite having his contract in full effect with Millonarios). So, why would you spend all this money in a player that played in the same position as your star, was out of shape and had a character? Besides, they knew he was good, but how good really? More than Kubala? We now know he was, but is like saying today who will be better, Mbappe or Haaland? Nobody REALLY knows, only the people of the future will be able to say with certainty. And maybe ten years from now nobody remembers, I don't know, Mbappe for instance, because some injury or bad career choices. We don't know, and neither did the people back then. This happen (kind of) with Beckham and Ronaldinho: They were signed the same summer and people at the time thought that Beckham was better, and Barcelona had to "settle" with Dinho... And the rest is history.
Besides, the main interest in Barcelona in signing Di Stéfano was that Kubala was sick and they were afraid he wouldn't be able to play anymore, so they wanted a replacement. But then, Kubala recovered, and was just then when they tried to sell their rights to Juve.
Also, the idea that Franco was actively trying to rig anything in Madrid's favor is not very credible. If he was such a big Real Madrid fan, why it took almost 20 years of dictatorship to do something to favor Madrid, so they could start winning? Barcelona and Athletic were the kings of spanish football back then, why would he allow that? Although people are very very sure that Madrid was definitely Franco's team, there is nothing to prove it. There is as much evidence that Franco was a Madrid fan, as there are that he was a Barcelona fan... But Madrid had a better story of success, so there you go. For instance, the goverment helped building the Nou Camp and helped them sign very good players (like the video says, Kubala among others). Heck, they even gave him a couple of gold medals to thank him for the help with the debt! So there's that.
Anyway, sorry for the long comment!
Excellent. Congrats for this comment.
The real Barcelona board was in excile or had been killed. Those medals were given by puppets of the regime.
Superb man,halla madrid!!!
Good job advocating your club, you would be a great defense attorney for criminals.
What about telling the truth now?
The level of games that are played around truly special talents is extreme to behold. One of the top 5 of all time on most reputable lists.
The biggest tell tale sign is 6:06. If Madrid genuinely signed ADS legitimately, then why would Bernabeu accept the terms that RFEF came to that ADS was to be “shared” by both clubs? Surely if he was their player Bernabeu wouldn’t accept ADS playing for someone else.
An asterisk has to be put on every single CL Real have won since im afraid.
Another great video! Would love to see one on how di Stefano almost ended up at Manchester United after Munich.
Holy fuck this is earliest I've been in a Tifo video upload.
Can you make a video on the SaveTheCrew movement and how the entire MLS pitched in to prevent the Columbus Crew from moving to Austin? A great story on how passion and football won against greed(although not completely...)
What happen to columbus crew?
mls is a weak league this the big leagues boy
@@Tony-my3sy In Tifo everyone and every league are accepted.
@@hanayama5670 Their owner tried to move them to Austin but didn't after wide protests from their fans and the fans of other MLS teams
I blame that phenomenon on hipsters. This is something that has happened in the U.K before but it is pretty rare and doesn’t happen nowadays. The biggest example I can think of is Wimbledon moving to MK. Yet you see this in America in ALL sports. NFL teams move around in particular. I think we see this because there is a big contingent of casual supporters who don’t actually care about the club as much as they do for talking about the club. I’ll give you an example, I know a girl who ‘supports’ an NFL team and she lives here in the U.K. Everytime a game is played here (regardless of whether or not it’s her team playing) she will go and see it and she will also stay up into the early hours of the morning to watch NFL games on T.V. A few months back I told her about the situation with the crew and for the life of her she couldn’t wrap her head around why it matters for a team to move. She didn’t have any connection to the fact that the team represents an area, a community, familial ties and supports local business. To her, it’s just a team that play a sport once or twice a week and that’s all. I realised that she was watching games and following the action just so she could post about it on social media and tell people that she watched the game. She didn’t really care. Hell, I don’t think she even gave it a second thought once the game finished and truth be told wasn’t at all concerned with whether or not her team actually won or played well. Interestingly, in the U.S there is a culture of meeting up before games and hanging out with other fans, having barbecues outside the ground etc... and this becomes a big part of the community and creates new friendships and support groups. If you suddenly pull the team out, you effectively spit in the face of this. But unfortunately in many cases these true and authentic supporters are the minority.
thats interesting af
Could you do another sensible transfers for arsenal working around very low budget and looking at free agents, swap deals, loan signings and partial funds.
Thanks @tifo football, for making this video and sharing our biggest factor how Real Madrid become a great club
Real madrid became a great club in legal way.
My gut says that because Barcelona stole Kubala from Madrid they wanted revenge and desperately wanted to sign di stef .And barca were like there before Madrid in the race so to stop this franco and bernabeu went hand in hand cause it would’ve benifitted both of them and they did some politics to sign him
@@ameyabhujbal7792 maybe it would make sense if that happened but unfortunately we cant back up this theory at all
The music you use is quite cool. Could you add the titles and artists in the credits in future videos
Real Madrid legend!!
Thanks
Tactical preview for each group euro 2020
We don't have the full final groups yet.
videos are sick af
I doubt they played in the 442 in Colombia more likely the WM formation
Tito you should do a video about the greatest finish ever to the english league (26/05/1989)
Di Stefano remains the greatest player in history of the game
I don't think I followed this because what I got from the video doesn't make sense to me. I'd be grateful if somebody corrected me:
- Due to circumstances, di Stefano is basically owned by two clubs. If he is to be secured immediately, both clubs have to be paid.
- Barca pays River Plate, but decides to cheap out and, unwilling to "pay twice" they basically tell Millionarios to piss off, despite them repeatedly willing to negotiate.
- Real goes "Fuck it, let's buy him" and pays Millionarios.
- Barca caves in and sells their share to Real.
Where exactly is there anything in this story that makes it seem like di Stefano should've become Barcelona player when they decided to cheap out and just sit and pray no other team will show interest for a years and a half? That's like buying a house with a mortgage, only paying upfront portion refusing to pay the mortgage and claiming it's rightfully yours.
So, what do you want to say? Barca is stupid?
Some what, Millonarios owns his rights up until a certain date, then River Plate afterwards. If Barca want him to play immediately they need to pay both clubs. they didn't pay both and tried to get him playing immediately notwithstanding, FIFA said hold up and everything god blurry.
It makes no sense this video because why Barça was going to sell his rights if Di Stéfano was Barça player since October of 1954? They're not explaining, to let Di Stéfano to play in Real for the Millonarios remaining year, Real needed the agreement of River Plate, and that never happened due to Barça got his rights. So it was impossible Di Stéfano played for Real legally. The only reason why real madrid and Barça later dealt with Millonarios was to avoid Millonarios claim to FiFa his return to Colombia since Millonarios had the right to get this player on loan till 24th October 1954 as late.
Its only with the Spanish Association intervention (Franco regime) when Real had the chance get him on his squad but Alfredo didn't accept to play for Real and Barça simultaneously and said he came back to Buenos Aires, so Spanish Association threatened and forced Barcelona to refuse his rights on the player to avoid Di Stéfano's departure to Argentina.
@@billycorgan3934 get a better translator, you're not making as sense as usual.
this refpaycelona fan is crying wayy too damm hard lmao@@maurogonzalez1643
I'm cert we all know this from a previous video
Did not know Colombia was a big part of this saga too
I think I have asked before, but would a video on Romario be able to happen?
Please do another Tifo Basketball video
I always thought Franco had some say in this (in the background and with guns).
Thank you tifo .....barca fans just bark about this all day .... but when you ask them the same about kubala they have no answer
Barça was first to negotiate for Kubala and same for Di Stefano, the story didn't end the same as it should have because.... :)
@@IIItachIII Barca illegally acquired Kubala as there never was a transfer between Kubala's club in the iron Curtain and Barcelona. There was no such thing as Bossman transfers back in the day. The same man who mediated the Di Stefano Saga litigated Kubala's case on behalf of Barcelona with FIFA took and also Kubala to get baptized as a catholic and was his godfather. It wasn't so much as Barca negotiated first, it's the Spanish Federation lobbied hard to get FIFA to grant Barcelona his transfer rights, he had to play officially as an "amateur" for many seasons. So much for Francoism.
@@IIItachIII they had dictator franco by their side 😂
4:39 Disney, that u?
Same music as the Chico Crypto vids.I clearly have excellent taste in everything.
i cant hear you say "Millionaros! one more time...
There is something quite wrong in this video, and it is not the first time. You say that the end of the Civil War was the fallen of Barcelona and you put it as if it was a war against Catalonia,. That is just not true, Madrid was the last city standing against Franco's army and, although in the last few years some independents of Catalonia had tried to draw it as a war against Catalonia, it wasn't, never. There war a harmful split that ended in a war-related to ideology, it was a war-related to the political movements of the age, but it was not, neve, a territorial issue. There were plenty of Catalans with Franco and against Franco, exactly the same that happened in the whole country. And, yes, there was a FC Barcelona president killed by Nationalist troops, but during the regime the club was -as was usually- extremely kind and well related with the dictator.
I think your an ignorant. Otherwise you would know the Spanish government was in Barcelona at the end of the war. So once Barcelona felt the war was over. It's pathetic to say Catalans supported Franco since Catalonia was very significative democratic and republican territory. So it was heavily repressed,more than the most of the other territories of Spain as its obvious. Franco's Coup d'etat lasted few hours in Catalonia.. .. So it's pathetic your argument. Why the Republic government moved to Barcelona if they supported Franco? 😂
@@billycorgan3934 You are such a stupid barca fan. It's historical true that madrid was the last city standing against Franco's army. Not even barcelona, every city of spain were suppressed by franco. Also, Basque was the city which franco suppressed more than Catalonia. It's fact. Please study spain's history.
Up here,
you can find a Spanish nationalist crying and telling lies.
We catalans, never say what he says we say.
Rubèn Jara who are you talking to?
As a madridista even we know it was a sus transfer saga
do a video on demiral and soyuncu as a back pair to look out for next summer in the EUROS
Emre Kilic lmao
Arsenal under arteta please
This video has given a lot of explanation to barca fans on their wet dream about this transfer. Barca messed everything up and they crying wolf. They even stole kubala from Madrid and they are crying victim. Neeks
They got their revenge with Neymar, but Neymar wasn’t as successful. Also, Madrid recently got kubo from barca and he’s going to be insanely good.
@Kuromori true DAT. They should continue to cry
@@asianpablo1574 they never had their revenge because they started it. Kubala first. Stolen from real Madrid. Madrid will continue to be over them.
The Madrid scouting system is simple, bug Barcelona's scouts and try to hijack the deal and steal the player away lmao 💀
This video it's only real madrid/Fascist propaganda. Kubala had nothing to do with this since real madrid never was interested in him and Kubala decided to play with Barça. The only reason why Di stefano played for Real was political as himself recognised. Real never had rights on him till Barcelona was forced to refuse his rights on him
Di Stefano is the zlatan of national teams
Someone plz explain
This video missed an important point:
Initially when De Stifano started his 1st season at Real Madrid , he was supposed to be going to barcelona next year. But initially he showed lack of form, which further encouraged Barcelona board to sell their rights of Di Stefano to Real Madrid.
In short, Real Madrid put faith on the player and took the risk, while Barcelona chose the non-risky , safe option
I had gone into this and apparently Barca let go of him bcoz they felt disrespected in that they got him first
@@thehonourablejudge1084 they wouldn't have let him go, if they knew he would the next big thing in football. The fact that he had a slow start made Barcelona let him go for a fee
@@tuntai1 hello there I suggest that you prefer RM above Barca... Am I right?
Missed one important point too. Joan Busquets who had bad blood with Millonarios because he was director of Millonarios' rivals Santa Fe. By Barcelona's demand Busquets negotiated for Barcelona, that's why Millonarios rejected Barcelona and offered Di Stefano to Real Madrid.
You're far confused. He never had to play for Barça the 2nd year because the regime forced to Barcelona president to refuse his rights on the player...what risk? He was the best player in the world when he arrived at Barcelona. DI STÉFANO never had to play for Real just because Millonarios had no rights to sell. The only way to let play Alfredo for Real it was with the River Plate consentiment, that never happened. So he had to play for Barça at the end of 1954 since Barcelona got his rights. But the regime forced to Barcelona to refuse his rights before he had the right to play for Barça. The only reason why Real Madrid and Barça later tried to deal with Millonarios was because to avoid Colombians claim to FiFa to get Alfredo back to Colombia to play the year remaining. And after that year he was Barcelona player. Then it's when Dictatorship intervened banning foreign players first and later through Spanish Association and forcing Martí to refuse his rights.
Wasn't Real Madrid Franco's club?
Of course it was
Barcelona won more league titles than Real Madrid during Francos times
Barcelona granted their Golden medal to Franco several times. RMadrid did not
Troops took Barcelona on storm? Barcelona surrender when the troops were near since the war was almost lost by that time.
Madrid was under a 2 year siege, I know because my grandad fought in the trenches of Madrid those two years for the republican side.
There it goes the narrative from Mr Lowe a known Barsa fan.
Madrid was the center of the regime cause it is the country capital.
Actually Atletico Madrid was the team of the regime at least for the first few decades. It was called at first Atletico Aviacion, and it was a branch or team of the airforce.
@@j.d.5626 Real Madrid won 14, Barcelona 8 during Franco's regime. Where are you getting your facts?
damn I'm early
Imagine that solution being brought up today if that happened to Messi.
Twitter would be shut down for 2 months
1 hour bois
Being the most successful team in history will obviously attract a lot of hate. But the fact is Bernabéu convinced Di Estéfano to play for real madrid and that's that. We will never know if he convinced him economically, politically (it's known that Di estefano was pretty right wing oriented) or any other reason. But I seriously doubt that the regime had anything to do since a couple years earlier the federation favoured Barcelona instead of Madrid in acquiring kubala who was one of the best players in the world at the time. Plus Franco wanted Spanish teams to be strong back in the day for propaganda reasons and because of the political censorship Barcelona was as a Spanish team as you could get.
Barca always recognised themselves as a Catalan team, so they got the wrath of Franco.
@@fffnnj7672 What fucking wrath? They won more La Liga's and Copas than Real Madrid under Franco lol
@@fffnnj7672 that's is pure Barca propaganda because they aren't able to recognize the historical supremacy of their arch rivals. And as I can see you totally and blindly bought into it. In Spain during Franco's time (1939-1975) Real Madrid won 21 national titles against Barcelona's 20 ,more ligas and copas by barcelona, but more supercopas(named Copa Eva Duarte) by Madrid. This is are objective facts you can look up. So tell me where exactly do you see the wrath there? Back in the day Barca was considered widely as another top Spanish team (they even changed their name to sound more Spanish). Anything else is just cules being sour.
Bernabéu and Saporta took part of the Fascist regime so all your narrative falls down. Barcelona right wing? That's why he arrived at Barcelona.. Kubala had no choice to play for Real because he wanted to play for Barcelona and the only reason why he got nationalised was to record films against communism. Not to help Barcelona...
@@billycorgan3934 Every word you're talking is just bullshit. Josep Samitier used franco's Regime to get Kubala. There's no basis that can explain Bernabeu close with Franco. Look at the article from El Pais which is about Bernabeu's death ,1978.6.3
knowing that barca cried a river for di Stefano makes it all much much sweeter for Madrid fans
In modern times Real Madrid won CL for fun.
In modern times RM won 4 UCLs in 5 year whilst Barcelona has 5 in their entire history.
@@ritwikghosh5833 lmao a league title is not even worth half of a CL, RM besides has many more league titles.
@Ritwik Ghosh Considering that you guys wouldn't exist without Franco, I really think you should stfu
@@ritwikghosh5833 u still believe that bullshit made by some Catalonia journalist. It was confirmed by Barca player that the the officials asked them to play after the first half when Barca was destroyed by 8 goals in the first half itself. Lmao... 😂
here from fng
Argentina legend
Franco: won 6 Champions League trophies
Hitler+Mussolini: 0
Dude that it's the worst lie Barcelona's fans could Say. The media at Spain created that history to obviously link Madrid with a dictatoship without any sense
@@user-gk7jm2le6g General Franco was so obsessed with football victories in the European arena. He even banned the Spanish national team from playing against the USSR national team at Euro 1960 when he found out that they could lose (because the USSR defeated Poland 7:1). Spain refused to play and withdrew from the Euro 1960.
At the same time, Di Stefano and Kubala were naturalized and played for Spain together with Luis Suarez, Hento that team was crazy strong.
That's the dumbest thing a Real Madrid hater could say
@@siu281 it's an open secret bro that RM was Franco's team. And like every dictator, he tried to dominate every region having distinguishing identity, so he particularly oppressed Catalunya. FC Barcelona was one of the victims.
Fff Nnj it’s dumb to say their achievements is solely because of Franco, Madrid wasn’t the only team he took interest in. It was all politics
Great the Alfredo di stefano said " Real madrid is feeling" I don't think there was any shady things happened from real madrid part because ADS wouldn't have remained in madrid till his last breath. He literally loved madrid to the core. Barca board was incompetent at that time just like they are now.
Possibly.
shit take
Didn't Franco become more interested in success of Real once they started to dominate in Europe. It was good P.R.
Wow im early
You guys could put just a bit more effort in looking up how to say words in other languages
3:00 El Pie?
Le pie
Never thaught of Barca saying no to a top player for 50k
At the time it was a lot of money, and the currency was peseta
Sorry. Alfredo played internationals for Argentina, Colombia and Spain!? What!?
he never played for Columbia..he played in columbian league..
Strange..... isn't it.
@@taskinkhan5871 nope - check Wiki. He played 4 games for a Colombia XI (albeit not FIFA recognised) in 1951-2 despite not holding a Colombian passport
Taskin Khan columbia is in united states. Colombia is a country.
Di Stefano only played 6 games for Argentina. All of them in Copa America 1947 and he won Copa America by scoring 6 goals.
Dude, Real Madrid stadium also in ruins after the war, it's not only the camp nou.. Pretty logical since it's the capital city and catalonia is one of the republican main base
don't know him but interesting..
please make a CAF video
Why do i feel like its going to be the same type of situation with Haaland this summer??..Obivously not this much controversy but a huge war will take place between Real and Barca
Kindly give an upload about Kai havertz....
Ansu fati....
How can setien improve Fc Barcelona....
Why is the champions league more important than ballon d'or💯💯💯
Too little info on Fati, Setien hasn't really improved Barca and everybody that has a braincell knows team awards have more significance then individual awards.
Hala Madrid y nada mas
My gut says that because Barcelona stole Kubala from Madrid they wanted revenge and desperately wanted to sign di stef .And barca were like there before Madrid in the race so to stop this franco and bernabeu went hand in hand cause it would’ve benifitted both of them and they did some politics to sign him
Lmao how does Real Madrid keep getting one over on Barcelona
Not on kubala or ronaldinho etc
They did for Luis Figo ADS Luis Enrique R9 and they even wanted Neymar
Alfredo Di Stefano is often overlooked..
I for one think he has a rightful claim to be considered as the GOAT...He is right up there with Pele, Maradona and Messi imo...
The Mount Rushmore of Football:
Di Stefano
Pele
Maradona
Messi
Personally, I think the reason why he's overlooked is that he was NOT a national legend. What do I mean, exactly? The fact that he never played in the World Cup, not to mention switching from one country to the other meant he was never able to show the world how great he truly was.
Lol imagine putting Di Stefano over Cruyff
Theo Buniel...he actually travelled with Spain to play in the 1962 World Cup but wasn’t fit to play because of an injury but I agree with your statement...his lack of performances with National Teams maybe the only dent in his polished career
Real Brethem Real Brethem...Cruyff is Great, my #6 in terms of who the GOAT is..
He is arguably the most intelligent and the most influential footballer of all time but as an overall footballing prowess...Di Stefano was better than Cruyff..
No Cristiano Ronaldo? You know, the guy who has won everything Messi has but also two titles with his national team.
PS: I entirely agree on Di Stefano though
Sp he is Argentine
Couldn't get you tongue around how to correctly pronounce Millonarios, huh?
I bet you have never mispronounced anything, slaphead.
soup
Sounds far better than how Neymar moved to barca
I learnt about this through Barcelona's documentary on Netflix, you should watch it it's really good not only about the club but also Spain Vs Catalonia
That cannot be the proof that franco supported real madrid
@@user-yr6zt5ye7p in my comment I was saying that the documentary addressed the feud between Spain and Catalonia, it always speaks on how Madrid were favourites of the Spanish government since they did not oppose them
Santan Dave Madrid? Real madrid or the capital of spain?
Barca n their non stop complaining
So I guess Messi was Madrid's karma 🤔
Hala madrid
I would have loved for him to be immortalized in Light blue and white with an Argentina T-shirt lifting a World Cup :(
Also I wonder in 50 years how many fantastic players will have existed that may make us forget some of the greats like we do forget Di Stefano now
he never even made a world cup appearance unfortunately, let alone win the trophy. maybe if the world cup did take place in the 40s when argentina was probably at their peak it could have been possible, with a young di stefano being guided by the likes of Jose moreno
Those 5 Champions League trophies, The consecutive Pichichi awards...rubbed salt into Barcas wounds and us in Madrid enjoyed every moment of it.😊
16th😫😫😫
And?
I never really liked Real Madrid and their ways tbh
I really like Real Madrid and all their ways tbh
@@ScribeOfHeaven Good for you
Welcome to life.
Hala Madrid!!! 🔥💯!
There are Several Rivalries in Club Football all over The World but Real Madrid and Barcelona have the most heated Rivalry. Thanks to Franco. For all his bias towards Real Madrid had made Real Madrid the Most hated clubs of Spain outside Madrid Province.
Real Madrid is the most supported club in Spain, not only in Madrid, but also in the rest of the country. There are lots of surveys to prove you are lying. And, about the Franco’s bias, it is just a story that foreigners want to believe, but it is not true. In fact, and this video acknowledges it, Real Madrid didn’t won La Liga between 1933 and 1954, precisely the core of Franco’s regime
Red Star/Partizan
@@gonzalocabeza9840 Yes, actually Atletico was favoured
@@gonzalocabeza9840 Santiago Bernabeu took part of the Fascist Coup d'etat and Saporta had loads of dinners with Franco at Pardo Palace. End of the story
@@billycorgan3934 There's no basis that can explain Bernabeu close with Franco. Look at the article from El Pais which is about Bernabeu's death ,1978.6.3
Di Stefano best real madrid player. After is Sergio Ramos
First
Nope
No
"Agreed a compromise." I think you mean "agreed on a compromise", or more succinctly, as "agreed" and "compromise" makes for a redundant sentence, "reached a compromise." British incorrect grammar is still incorrect grammar.
Professor!
@Ajmal Ali facts
@Ajmal Ali you gave enough of a shit to moan about it. Anyway, do you know who "Millionaros" are? I kept hearing the narrator mention this football club but I don't think they exist. I know a football club called "Millonarios" but he definitely says "Millionaros".
Favouritism ?
Barcelona won more league titles than Real Madrid during Francos times
Barcelona granted their Golden medal to Franco several times. RMadrid did not
Troops took Barcelona on storm? Barcelona surrender when the troops were near since the war was almost lost by that time.
Madrid was under a 2 year siege, I know because my grandad fought in the trenches of Madrid those two years for the republican side.
There it goes the narrative from Mr Lowe a known Barsa fan.
Edited for two more points:
Madrid was the center of the regime cause it is the country capital.
Actually Atletico Madrid was the team of the regime at least for the first few decades. It was called at first Atletico Aviacion, and it was a branch or team of the airforce.
Barca been whining for forever
So when a fu**ing dictator “encourages” Barcelona to hand over the rights to the best player in the world at that time...its “whining”
But when other teams complain about the weather or a single referee decision it’s all fair game...get a grip.
Halla Madrid
Real and Barca are always doing dodgy transfers.