Mark Driscoll kicked off stage (there’s more to it)
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- In today's powerful episode, "Prophets Speak: Navigating Church Controversy with Discernment," Pastor Mike Signorelli and prophetic voice Jeremiah Johnson delve into the spiritual and communal implications of recent events in the Christian community. Join us as they discuss the controversial removal of Pastor Mark Driscoll from a church conference, exploring themes of spiritual warfare, discernment, and the biblical approach to addressing public issues within the church.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Mark Driscoll Removed from Stage
5:52 - Jeremiah Johnson Arrival
6:02 - Rebuking Jezebel Spirit
11:43 - Mike's Deliverance Scenario
17:40 - Mike's Online Church Story
21:15 - Concept of Horizontal Apostles
24:34 - Focus Shift from Mark Driscoll
27:35 - Ceremony Implications
31:30 - David Wilkerson’s Prophecy Analysis
35:10 - Event Recap
39:48 - David Wilkerson 1973 Prophecy
42:20 - Concluding Insights
44:10 - Addressing Mental Illness
47:30 - Immediate Action Steps
48:45 - Closing Prayer
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Mark is attempting to regulate the entire body of Christ as if He is the standard or Ruler, just like "All" the other Celebrity (Stage Performers Titled "Ministers of Righteousness"
I officially warned in "The Warning & The Watchman Ezekiel 33 & 34"
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To "All" of these self appointed hired hands...
Shepherds are to tend to the immediate needs of those who are sent to them directly and locally. Anything else and they are exposed as wolves as we are warned to avoid at all cost!
He was just getting started and never got to finish so it wasn't a true rebuke. He was fearing (respecting the host dude) more than Yahweh. I would have told him, ,"No, you are out of line for even allowing this vile show of flesh!" And called him out in front of everyone! "You are held accountable by Yahweh and must repent or you will be humbled publicly!"
Its all about money, viewers/followers and the next stage appearance, contract and event/conference we are warned not to partake in. (Isaiah 58)
"They Would Not Repent" is why the wrath of Yahweh will soon be poured out on those who think they can mock Him and not suffer the consequences. Revelation 6 is happening realtime and once the final seal is broken, few will survive Revelation 7 through 18 The very ones who appear they are for justice are inwardly wolves and broods of vipers who do these evil deeds knowing they will be judged for them because they are among the very organizations you mentioned that seem to be for your cause (Christ) yet they are not. Romans 1 & 2 - 2 Timothy 3 and Psalm 2 sum it up for those who think anyone of these gov regulated organizations are for good or any real change. Soon we will see their whole scheme burning to cinders. Just like Sodom and Gommorah, just like the Flood. Matthew 24
Just remember "They Did Not Repent"
What is sad about this all is that too many within the church have gotten caught up with "titles"-and who can correct and who cannot-Correction is for us all, and we all should humble ourselves to the truth when we are reminded that we have steered from it and put that pride/ego to death in order to be conformed to the image of Christ as was predestined from the beginning-and let it start with those who consider themselves to be at the top...GOD is doing a new thing, in that he will humble all those who consider themselves to be something apart from him and have been given titles from men, and instead, assign "no names" with no titles (from a mans point of view) to do the work-all because they cared more about the titles than the way of life we are called to be conformed to by first changing the way we think and they refused to give up their pride in exchange for humility, because they cared more about the look of the outside of the cup, than cleaning the inside...
I'm going and I have floor middle seats to the breakers conference in October! Please bring revival and let's break Jezebel over these men! It's so needed and I'm willing to be on me praising the Lord!
I don’t have a problem with the performance found it very entertaining you should check out the performance it wasn’t a strip show DONT DO IT IN CHURCH that’s all it wasn’t erotic in any way I think it’s blown way out of proportion I think he should have used more wisdom to not offend those who may be weak in faith and saw it as some demonic ceremony like Paul talking about food sacrificed to idols don’t do anything to offend weak brothers or sisters yes I said weak I don’t like entertainment in church don’t get me wrong keep it out of the church it’s drama pastor should have let him say his rebuke let him preach his message searched his self to see if he needs to repent if not bless him go on about your business
Don’t get me wrong I don’t like entertainment in church I think of what Paul said when he was talking about eating food sacrificed to idols don’t do anything to offend your brother someone weak in faith may see that as some satanic demonic ceremony it was not a strip show was not erotic in any way the show was fine very entertaining just don’t do it in church the pastor should have let him say his rebuke let him preach his message pray ask GOD to give you wisdom seek him and if he needs to repent if not bless him give him a hug love him like a brother send him on his way and forget it
Publicly sin- public rebuke!!
Mark was 10000000000000% correct!
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The TRUTH is …..What really happened is that since Driscoll had women taking their clothes off in his church office and he was doing damage control so they did this as a sham to rebuild his image…. Him and The Pastor were in on it FACTS. DRISCOLL is a snake 🐍 … Evangelicals smh 🤦🏻♂️
EXACTLY............AND THAT TOO IN THE HOUSE OF OUR GOD..........THAT HOUSE IS GOD'S HOUSE, NOT LINDELL'S HOUSE.......
I agree. He was very gentle about it.
@@CranyumHipHop how about you stop copy and pasting the same comment?
What really happened is a preacher stood up for Christ . Bottom Line !
Exactly!!!! and called it for what it was.
AMEN!!
Exactly
Yes and he stated he prayed for hours before he said anything! I applaud him!!
Yes!!!!!
A stripper pole in any church is unacceptable and shocking. He definitely was 💯 correct on how he handled this situation. A mighty man of God, much respect. 🙏🏼
It's called "The government of God" in operation. As a minister at age 84, I say " Amen" to the fact that as an invited speaker, Mark had authority to act accordingly. Above friendship, he is a servant of the Lord to Whom he answers. Praise God for people who speak truth about wickedness!
Pastor Mark had every right to do what he did scripturally.
More than a right. He had a duty to do so.
Yes 🙌
Yes and the other guy took it wayyy too personally. Pastor even said this isn’t personal.. he was saying it was a spirit. This is such an eye opening event. Thank you Holy Spirit
Then why did he walk it back? Publicity stunt. He is suddenly trending and all anyone is talking about and he just used it to promote his book. 🤔
AMEN
Why is no one speaking to the 1,000’s of men who stayed and watched without leaving immediately? To me that’s scarier.
It is worrisome especially when Mark decided to leave as there was commotion. Why would they sit there and not grumble about that. This was the exposure of evil and that is it. There was no room for private correction. Jesus says my church shall be a house of prayer. That was a way of promoting homosexuality to these men. The devil knew that it will stay in the mind for a long time and may consider and be tempted to engage in it. I give all the Glory to God. God took over from Mark and exposed the wickedness. When Jesus Finding them selling inside the church he rebuked and whipped them on the spot. If you are walking in the spirit you are just a vessel and God speaks through you. Balam and Balack case should apply here that he didn't say what he wanted to say despite the price because God is powerful.
The Conference as a whole was amazing. We moved right past it.
@@sarahgumede1330True.
God is addressing that. But He will deal with the leaders first for misleading His flock. And then deal with His sheep with grace and mercy.
I am assuming that they have already been under a deceiving spirit. I could be totally wrong . Feel free to correct me.
Pastor Mike we all will have the back of Pastor Mark all the way on this. He absolutely done the right thing! God Bless him and God will protect him through all of this 🙌🙌🙌
The world preachers will hate Pastor Mark Driscoll
Very true.
When Mark Driscoll closed his Bible the glory of Elohim God left that building.
I personally feel.that the pole was not appropriate. What if you had men that were struggling with issues of gender drawn to.what was presented or men who had previously at strip events even with women. It wasn't the best thing to do. Men need Jesus the word, good music anything. Rip books in half whatever.
This conference sounds like a freak show.
Every real man of the Lord should have walked out of there.
EXACTLY ❤
Agree 100%
Couldn’t be more proud that Pastor Mark Driscoll is my pastor here in AZ
Ya know what, the closest I get to hear Mark Driscoll preach is on TH-cam Sunday mornings, wish I had a pastor like him…….
Amen!
Amen
YES!!!! 🙌🙏✝️
This used to be my home church. I miss it so much 😢 PMD is a wonderful pastor and Grace is amazing too. Loved their women's ministry.
That has no place in a religious setting. Period!!!
Exactly. Inappropriate
Christ is not religious
Shouldn’t have a place in any setting
AMEN
Unbelievers are more reverent about the house of God than believer nowadays …THEY KNOW WHATS APPROPRIATE AND WHATS NOT GOD HAVE MERCY
I was at this conference. Mark said exactly what needed to be said. 2 of the opening acts were not necessary. There are positive things that came out of this conference. The taking of Mark off stage was so mishandled and the opening acts did not belong at this conference, and there is no way to defend it.
I was there. It was intense spiritually. When Mark took the knee there was a deep sense of a call to repentance that was about to explode. When this was steered away the room went into an uproar (it’s not clearly conveyed how intense it was in the videos). I agree that the whole thing was a prophetic line in the sand. It was a prophetic statement about what is on the horizon and it is clear that there will be a cost for stepping up to the call of the Holy Spirit and going into the fire.
Do people not understand that there are male strippers, as well, if not as more, than female strippers? Do they not know those male strippers are not just Chippindale strippers for women? There is a huge demand for male strippers FOR MEN consumers.
Furthermore, how many brothers went to that conference who battle homosexuality and went there looking for ministry, for deliverance, for truth and strength? How many of them looked at their brothers and said, “I should’ve stayed home and read my Bible.”
DO WE HAVE NO WISDOM AT ALL??
Lord have mercy on us all.
AND…I’m hearing if Mark Driscoll is saying it’s bad, it must be WILLLLLD
only a pastor with a problem with what he said would have demanded addressing it together. Any pastor worth his salt would’ve gladly backed this brother.
Male strippers at a men’s conference??!! WE SURE THIS WASNT A P-DIDDY PARTY??
You are on point!!! Exactly! why do we care so much whether or not his correction offended? there are times where you have to pick a side. I still see so many leaders trying to stay on the safe side while analyzing this whole thing.
Wrong focus I think, Why are we not discussing the point that a homosexual stripper was invited to open this conference. The discussion of what Mark did is a moot point.
Exactly
I support Pastor Mark Driscol for standing for truth of Christ!!✝️🙏🕊❤️🔥
And then apologized!?
And then apologized! Why? This NEVER should of happened period. And why didn’t all the men there walk out. Sorry this is not church. Your all so deceived. Read your bible, pray, fast and come out from among them please!! This is sickening 🤮
Me too
Let's let the world live like the world and the church be Godly.
I saw him take a knee and rebuke what was witnessed and was glad to see the righteousness. As you said, I do not believe it was presented with evil intentions, but was a temptation to evil that required an open display of rebuke. We need more demonstration of not continuing to tolerate evil.
What on earth could have been the purpose of that man swinging on a pole and taking his shirt off before a Christian men’s conference? There’s no reverence for Almighty God in doing so. Mark Driscoll was right to rebuke it.
Amen!
THAT'S THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. As time goes on I see how much deception and INFILTRATION is taking place EVERYWHERE. PUT YOUR SEATBELTS ON AND KEEP YOUR HANDS IN THE CAR AT ALL TIMES ‼️‼️‼️
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Yes!!
Amen
Honestly, had he left his clothes on ( from what I've seen of it ) it might have been fine. Demonstrating a feat of strength born from effort and determination and also a somewhat exceptional feat in sword swallowing probably isn't much of an issue.
However, when you start revealing your body to a group of people, some of which could be men seeking salvation from homosexuality, it immediately becomes problematic.
If the pastor that approved that display missed that part, he probably shouldn't be a pastor.
It was definitely wrong to have an gender of any type as a stripper
Open Rebuke is better than Hidden Love! Amen 🙏🏽
Awesome spoken biblical truth, I have just read that recently.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Obedience is better than sacrifice.
This happened with my husband. He got into a false teaching and he was really getting influenced so badly. I fasted and prayed and went to him. He turned on me like the one pastor did on Driscoll. Fastt forward 6 years. My husband has turned away and now has filed for divorce. If he had listened and we had gotten on our faces and prayed, our marriage would be in such a different place. Same here, if the body had repented, it would have played out differently. God would have been freed to move.
This is just a club for entertainment being used by Satan to destroy family using these pastors as a body to accomplish it
We have Prayed for you and for your husband dearest Sister 🙏😢💜🙏
Driscoll spoke the truth and should not have apologized for it. There was confusion and Driscoll brought clarity....that helps congregations. Because there is so much confusion in the church. People that are seeking God want real and truth. Without speaking out people would have left the conference in more bondage than they came. People need help and hope! Not a demonic show! Give us Jesus and His word!! Holy Spirit move upon us!! We need you!! Amen!!
Exactly. I was sad to see the confusion brought on by apologies for doing the right thing.
He did not apologize for what he said. Only the order in which he said it. There is a big difference there. John was the host/lead for the conference. Any concerns about the conference were suppose to be brought to John first. That's all.
@@kenethsoberano He should have went with his gut feeling and trusted it. We have social media now, if he made a mistake he could have stated so later. He was fearful of man at that point. Wrong move imo.
Mark spoke prophetically and I agree with the original comment: he should never have apologized. You call out the demonic as soon as you see it. Period.
Thank you! He’s a man of God who saw a demonic hand in a place where God should’ve been exalted. No need for an apology. He didn’t do it in arrogance at all. God give our men of God to stand in Jesus name. The rest of the men should’ve left when the stripper began his routine. Why apologize? Lindell’s soul is at stake.
Mark Driscoll was so Humble. He defended Jesus Christ.
Pastor John was prideful by kicking off a man of God whom was rebuking a jezebel spirit so calmly so humble.
What an amazing man of God Mark Driscoll is but he should not have apologized, for he did NO wrong.
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ Amen
I am just horrified that this even happened in a place where Christians are together to celebrate our Lord
Great video! It's time for Godly men to stand up and fight for truth. No compromise! Spiritual warfare is real but many men of God do not know how to fight on their knees. Conversations and debate like this video need to be daily. Thanks you both for standing for truth. We are not ashamed of the gospel 👑
I love Pastor Mark Driscoll! I stand with him. 💯💯💯 Way to go! Unapologetic bible teacher & true man of God. Thank you! ❤ 💪 ✝
He ended up apologizing though
@@user-pq8mm3zz8zhe apologized for offending the pastor...NOT for what he said
John Lindell failed the test.
Prayerfully this will be a teachable moment for him.
We need to pray for him and all the men. I believe that God really exposed it and it is very important to tune in, rise above to see what God is trying to do. When we accept His correction as a whole, restoration will come to men. I believed God wants to expose and brings restoration in this season if we yield to God.
We all have failed tests. Am I willing to repent, learn, and seek God.
fire him.
I disagree
PRAY for LOST souls that have turned further away from God because of this CIRCUS! I live in Springfield, MO. People are HURT and CONFUSED! James River Church and their LEADERS have FAILED! They count 500 men SAVED over the weekend. How many were LOST over this CIRCUS??
The two of you are spot on. As a woman of God this is so troublesome to me. How can anyone who loves Jesus allow this to go on at a men’s conference? I agree with the two of you totally.
Flee from places where sin is embraced.
Amen!
YES!! I would expect people to walk out of that conference in droves. Discernment!!
Listen to these fools mock this situation and try to dumb it down.. Shane on these puppets at the pulpit 😮😢
@loghan2570 God said few will make it. God had this exposed so you'll see the wheat and tares❤
I can only imagine how Pastor David Wilkerson would have dealt with this.
I love that preacher. He would have brought the fire 🔥 💯 %
He would’ve never been invited there.
In his prophecy from the 70s he said this would happen. It’s called The Vision
Wow! Right! He was a true man of God! He loved and cried out for our souls sake!
How about Smith Wigglesworth? Billy Graham?
Today I watched a video of Dave Wilkerson from years ago at Time Square Church speaking against false preachers and doctrines. I miss him. He was a true man of God.❤
I live here in Scottsdale, and Mark Driscoll is my pastor and boy could I not feel more blessed at this moment! I wish that he had been my pastor in my previous marriage and maybe it would have been saved. I’m so glad this man is speaking into my current husbands life!
I thought Mark Driscoll handled the situation humbly and with grace and calling out the Jezebel spirit. Bravo Mark Driscoll! 👍
Pastor Mark Driscoll thank you for standing up for righteousness.That was a public display of sin and Pastor Mark you did the right thing and should not apologize for the public rebuke
More followers of Jesus Christ need to do what Mark Driscoll did! At least he obeyed God! We are in the age of evil is good and good is evil 😞
When the Holy Spirit burdens your heart to speak-You must! You cannot disobey the prompting of the Holy Spirit when He is telling you to tell the truth. Much Respect Pastor Mark! 🙏🏽✊🏾
My husband & I listen to Mark Driscoll and we really love his teaching of the word. And how to apply it to our lives.
I believe he is anointed by God.
And if the lord told him to rebuke the spirit of Jezebel. Then it needed to be done .
We really have to listen to God more than ever in these last days.
It’s crucial!
God bless you Pastor Mike & Pastor Jeremiah 😊❤
When I was a part of James River Church, of which I've repented of, I remember watching when Pastor John Lindell during a Sunday morning service, MOCKED DAVID WILKERSON, who happens to be my favorite Minister of all time! I remember literally groaning out loud from the grief that I felt inside at that moment! I remember saying under my breath, "You better be careful there!"
I've been waiting for that particular prophecy of Rev. Wilkerson's from his book The Vision, about the NUDE DANCING IN CHURCH that Jeremiah Johnson mentioned to happen, like most every other prophecy of David's has come to pass. WOW!
Oh wow, that is really sad. I love David Wilkerson. He was a real man of God!
I got chills reading this! My goodness you are correct!!!
I LOVE David Wilkerson
Oh wow! That’s what I thought of when I saw this happen.
Lindell's pride is clearly a problem. I'm praying for him to receive a godly sorrow that leads to repentance. I'm also praying for Mark Driscoll to remain firm in his revelation and grow in the grace of God.
Pastor John Lindell should have a apologized up on that stage too all the attendees and then thanked and supported Mark Driscoll
I can't even imagine who thought this performance was a good idea?? I would question that person's motives and position within the church PERIOD!
So well said! I for one, am really grateful for the bold and meek open correction from Mark 😊
As a Pastor I pray you read this comment.
I did not grow up in church so when I got saved it was a breath of fresh air.
The pastor preach Jesus, no entertainment just the pure gospel.
It is a lie to think you need entertainment or things of the world to reach people.
Most who come to church are running from the world.
Now the church has dark stages like the night club I attended. And motivation speaking and story lines.
That not what the world needs what I need.
We need Jesus no lights sound or action.
We come for a change from the world.
I am just a church member asking you Pastors to let go of all the gimmicks.
And just give us pure worship. Prayer and the word.
When I saw that act from that church on twitter it reminded of what I left!
It is a lie that we need to be entertained to see Jesus or for the church to reach people.
The comments from sinners should make every pastor aware of that.
It is the word, the anointing, the miracles that will reach people not being like the world.
When Jesus came on the scene people were like they are now.
Searching for freedom from the world and it’s culture .
What we need now is the culture of the kingdom not the world.
Please get back to teaching the pure word, holiness, miracles.. that what the world needs .
Sincerely just a church member.
❤❤❤❤❤❤
Agree 100 percent
So right!..the focus has to be on GOD and the living word at all times.
Well said..demon spirits are infiltrating churches and we are getting deceived.. we need discernment.
Agreed with the body of this comment and glad I read it, EXCEPT, for the last sentence. If you are called to be a pastor, you are a pastor, so be a pastor. Pastors are not merely “just a church member”.
This is the problem with the Church today " Compromise". Nobody want to offend people but it is ok to offend God.
Yep, see my comment
Amen!
Preach!! We idolize ministers more than fearing God!!
Mark Driscoll didn't compromise!!!
@@talkingpointstodayI like him and I believe he’s not going to back down on his stand on exposing the work of the devil, but if I heard right he said that he should have handled the situation better. That to all of us sounded like he was apologizing for getting up on stage and exposing the spirit behind the performance.
As a new convert Mark Driscoll had become a primary go to along with you and a couple of others and the excitement of seeing someone finally stand up and represent what he preached was soooo breath taking.
Then to back peddle broke my heart. From what he teaches, it was contrary to the strong uplifted figures he teaches on. I sure hope there is more behind the scenes and it was a money thing or other irrelevant issue biblically speaking.
if Jesus himself were sitting in that crowd would it have been appropriate?
I applaude Pastor Driscoll, he rebuked rightly, He saw the jezebel spirit and of course the retaliation against him is being given more importance than the fact that at a conference that is suppose to bless the men, the shepherd allows this demonic and perverted display to take place and then came against the voice that exposed what happened. this is why people in the churches have no fear of God. We need men to stand up for righteousness and call out the spirit for what it is. May God abundantly bless Pastor Driscoll.
If the pastor of the church invited the stripper or rubber stamped it ahead of time, he is the source, not merely allowed it. That is even more concerning.
My sense is, the rebuke was Holy Spirit spilling out of him, the second time he took the stage with good intentions for unity was Mark Driscoll and not Holy Spirit. He probably didn’t say anything to the lead pastor before because Holy Spirit wanted to speak out publicly about it. I prayed for both those men this morning. This is a time for courageous men to speak and not be scared into silence.
The attendees forced John to go find Mark and bring him back. Driscoll humbly agreed to return to prevent a complete collapse of the conference and the friendship.
@apl1515 I totally agree with your assessment. That was my thought too. 🙏🏻
Yes brother will come against brother in the last days. Jesus and truth and righteousness is always to be first, Glory to God who is above all and is Holy…
It’s called a payday!! Mark was a sellout!
@@stevenkleinhenz1017 Wrong
John Lindell was publicly exposed in the way he reacted. Pray he repents.
Agreed!! An open display called for an open rebuke. Plain and simple
David Wilkerson hit the nail on the head when he wrote "The Vision". I have a lot of respect for that man. He would have been deeply disturbed by the guy at the pole.
The saddest part of this whole scenario is that it shows that the FEAR OF THE LORD has left the heart of many who profess to be followers of the Lord Jesus Christ. And to see it among some of the leaders of the Body of Christ, grieves the Holy Spirit. My heart aches when I think of the great sacrifice Jesus, the Lamb of God, made for us to be saved, sanctified, filled with the Holy Spirit, walking in righteousness, holiness and fellowship with God every day. Jesus gave up everything to purchase our freedom from sin! Lord forgive us and help us to walk in true humility, and to reverence and respect You with every fiber of our being! Help us Lord, have mercy on Your people and forgive us of our sins!
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I think God wants to expose sin in the church and set us free so we can serve Him with whole hearts. Instead there was manipulation from the lead pastor and it's tragic especially in light of the example it sets to all those men.
I believe Mark was humble. He even said he didn't want to say it. He was so humble. I do believe God brought attention to this...
Our Goal As Christians And The Entirety Of/In The Body Of Christ Is HOLINESS!!
"Be Ye Holy As I Am Holy" ✝️
The Mixture Must Stop!!
Obviously, but do you ALL really think the apostate church agrees?
We go to church not to be entertained, but to hear the word of God, and to fellowship with fellow believers.
Amen!
Don’t forget to praise and worship the Lord, as well. And that is what has been lost.
Pride...a man's pride was on full display.
As for those [elders] who continue in sin, reprimand them in the presence of all [the congregation], so that the rest will be warned.“
1 Timothy 5:20
Stripper pole?! Stripper pole?! Really? At a men’s conference? Mark is paying attention! Nothing more needs to be said! Mark has a Fathers heart. Something HAD to be said. Thanks for addressing and supporting Mark.
I live in Springfield Missouri. My husband and I work with people in recovery, leaving homelessness and coming out of the prison system. We have heard many peoples hearts after being there and witnessing this. There was a lot of confusion left after the round table. And half of the stadium of people left after. Now on social media there is nothing but division, the body going back and forth, defending each person involved based on how that particular person “feels” about it.
It’s not about how we “feel” about it. We need to come back to the Bible and what God is telling us not what we think is ok and not ok.
Please be praying for Springfield, Missouri.. the things going on here are grieving. Lots of pastors falling, people leaving the church, mockery of Christianity. Between this stronger men’s event and the messages about a heaven here on earth type of theology to ihopkc this area is under heavy attack. Help intercede for us and our area. We are laboring for repentance here and revival.
I also live in Springfield, and the spirit of religion is very strong here. It is hard to see the body in such apostasy. And as someone who is sincerely following Jesus and trying to find a church that is not spiritually asleep but is biblically based, alive in the spirit and practicing the gifts here.. it is hard. Our city needs revival and repentance.
It really is under attack.
I'm glad that many in the stadium left. That gives me some hope that there are Godly men with discernment out there.
I live here too. This is sad. John needs to repent for interfering with the Holy Spirit through another man of God. But pride took over because of all the money at stake in that conference. That's not just how I feel. It''s the word of God as I interpret the Bible.
You are speaking truth. That this would happen in this area of the country breaks my heart. God help us. We are in spiritual darkness … we have turned the House of God into a entertainment circus.
I literally cried. Now I’m praying 🙏. Lord bring revival to our country. Praying for revival for my beloved Ozarks. My ancestors pioneered and preached there 🙏
Anyone from Springfield, we have prayer meetings and would love to get together and intercede for our city and come together in unity and truth to seek the face of God and pray for our city, for America, the nations and Israel. My husband and I share a fb, it’s listed under Cerena Kaleb Kaps.
It’s time the people who are following Jesus come together and pray for our brothers and sisters and that the spirit of conviction would fall on hearts.
Pastor Mike, I just saw the video of Lindell on the need for Mark Driscoll to repent. Using Matt 18 incorrectly, and the Lord reminded me that Jesus did not confront the Pharisees privately before explaining, exposing and rebuking their errors publically. Those religious leaders lived their and taught errors openly. Jesus rebuked those errors and explained that the devil himself was behind them....and He did this repeatedly in front of their followers and their fans. There is not one example of Him rebuking them privately, then taking witnesses before making their errors known openly. Matt 18:15-20 is for personal offenses not corporate ones. At least this is how I have seen the ways of Jesus. Praying for them all but John Lindell is the one who should repent. This is a season of true colors being revealed.
He is a true follower of Christ who tries to prepare others for what's coming. What he saw at that conference was absolutely horrifying and not something that's supposed to be in the church. He was completely 1000000% right.
IM 100 % WITH MARKS ACTIONS 🎬 ABSOLUTELY. WE STAND 4 CHRIST PEOPLE'S ❤
He stood up for the truth and that’s our lord 😇
This is exactly what we needed to hear! Thank you both for seeing the opportunity lost and how it’s about the act and the spiritual warfare!
I'm glad Mark Driscoll said something, it makes me question the leadership above the men that stayed, what if they didn't know that is wrong? Those thousands of men sitting there not understanding how wrong that is, shocking. He never rebuked at all, and i can't imagine being a wife of the men that just sat there and watched it to the end and then booed someone for speaking up. It just really puts things in perspective for these last days.
Just another perspective that was spot on. th-cam.com/users/livefGQ6LvL8wgA?si=p6o7xTslmOBzfmTe
Discernment is greatly needed. Mark Driscoll has it.
It's basic common sense
Praise God for Pastor Mike Driscoll for having the courage and boldness to stand up against the spirit of the world and Jezebel creeping into the church!! Seems like the church is being so easily led by the false shephard already!! People of God, start reading the word of God for yourselves so you do not fall into deception!! 👑✝️🕊🙏
TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH 💯
Jezebel ain't creepin' in. It's BOLDLY insinuating itself into the church. Normalizing sin in the church. They better pray for decernment & rebuke that spirit ASAP.
Good thing God doesn’t need man to agree with Him. It is TIME for the church family to STOP compromising.
Open rebuke is healthy for ALL of us!
So appreciate this interaction between Signorelli and Johnson - the perspective, the correction, the challenge - wow! Thank you!
I wish pastor mark had not gone back to apologize. Because there are some things that you do not need to apologize and tolerate. Revelation talks about not tolerating certain things and it makes me feel like pastor Lyndell is not apologetic for the disgusting. Demonic display and is not A. Godly. Leader that pastor mark should look up to and it makes me sad that I don't have as much confidence in pastor mark and I wish that hadn't happened but it's just a reminder to keep your eyes on Jesus because men are fallible
Yes, I agree completely! It's like Pastor Mark lost any reward he would had got. To apologize to someone who said this was alright? Seems like he was lifting his own self up to be perfect?
I feel that he was put in a hard situation with his friend and his friend made a mockery of him. It was Mark's flesh not the holy spirit. His friendship outweighed God speakinf
Mark was manipulated to come back on stage to apologize to save face of Pastor Lindel. Point blank.
Yesterday, Driscoll was kind of a hero to me for a quick minute. I was really impressed by his honesty and conviction. Then. later in the day I watched a piece with him and John Lidell and he basically walked it back with an apology. I can only imagine what was said in those private meetings between the initial rebuke and the kumbaya moment they had on stage. At the end of the day, I'm not disappointed. This is what men do. I've seen this before, The bottom line is, churches are not transforming people. They are merely entertaining them.
Pastor Mark was totally right in his rebuke and feelings, and I applaud him for standing up for what is right!!!
There should not be stripping at a church. What is wrong with people!
I am really confused here. What does a male stripper have to do with a conference.
There should not have been a male stripper at a Christian conference which is the point. It was completely out of place, hypocritical.
Thanks, Pastor Mark, standing up for Christ and not bowing to baal!
Thank you for sharing! Much love & prayers for the body of Christ & to all her leaders with in.
Revive us, Oh Lord.
Pastor Mark was humble and gracious! Praise the Lord our King for his courage and discernment!
I pray God raises up his people in power of the truth to stand against the enemy
I absolutely believe Mark handled this as Christ would have! God bless him for moving in the Holy Spirit!! Thank you for talking about this! Jezebel is absolutely tolerated by many pastors and churches! It must be addressed!!!
Thank God, for ministers that, in truth, will address sin openly, properly, lovingly, to the Glory of God.👏🏻❤️🙏🏻
I question that Pastor, there is NO WAY he is representing GOD almighty. Bringing a male stripper to a all-male conference, are you kidding me. God forbid, that there were men there battling homosexuality. That Pastor needs to REPENT to GOD and to the people. In the last days people including "church" people calling good bad and calling bad good. Am proud that the man of God, Mark stood up for what is right in the eyes of our God.
AMEN, THE PASTOR WAS WRONG HAVING THAT MAGICIAN IN A CHURCH
You're an Ahab clearly!
We the church needs to turn back to the Lord. Our land needs healing. It's the church.
I agree .. I don't want to hear he was hired by Someone else on the team .. that pastor should have rebuked it himself
Absolutely…
I am so saddened by the male stripper was at a Men's Conference.
This is so evil. The fact they even thought that would be a good idea is such wrong thinking.
Lord Jesus have mercy on all the men who agreed to this evil and I pray they repent.
Yes I agree with the rebuke to that spirit.
I applaud Pastor Mark not many men or men of God would stand up against this type of behavior. We must realize there is a war going on in the church, we have allowed the world come in a monster a demonic message in the church and wonder why we are being laughed at. But when a MAN OF GOD stands up quickly false teachers push the man of God out and not receive correction. Seeing this happen today in many church’s today.
PRIDE is why he couldn’t receive the rebuke. Denial of any wrongdoing typically stems from a root of PRIDE. Missed an awesome opportunity for all those men to meet God at that place…Not only from leadership but the church as a whole!
Funny...PRIDE...thats the gay mantra..😮
The Lord isn’t concerned with people’s feelings, he’s concerned with his children obeying him. We all know what happened to our ancestors who created a golden calf.
AMEN!
God is more concerned with our character than our comfort. You are right!
Entertainment is not what we need. Not the men nor the women. We need the presence of God, we need the tangible presence of God in the earth again for the next generations.
This was GREAT listening to these 2 men and their wisdom on the Men's Conferences at James River Church in Springfield, Mo.
Thank You so much for sharing about
David Wilkerson and what he wrote in his book.
God Bless you both!
I agree with what you both said.
We are reminded in Ezekiel 22 and then in chapter 44 about mixing the holy with the profane. We cannot drink from God's cup and the cup of demons at the same time. There is too much compromise in the church these days and it is causing people who truly love God to not want to be a part of the hellish behaviour. Almost everyone is calling evil good and good evil. Honestly, it's beginning to make me sick to my stomach. David was a king and accepted rebuke from the prophet Nathan. We need some humility in the church.
This man is the pastor and he didn't know it was inappropriate
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
He absolutely knew, but it shows what spirit is really in control there, and its not the Spirit of God.
I love Pastor Mark! He was doing exactly what needed to be done! Thank you both for clarifying all of this❤
They are blessed that lightening didn’t strike that pole!
This just goes to show that some are playing pastor but don’t have the relationship themselves. What a demonic display and I am happy Driscoll rebuked it in front of the congregation. Just like Jesus rebuked the Pharisees.
Mark Driscoll great example to all Christian ✝️ and none Christian. this is how we stand for the true as a Christian the truth will set us free. 👏 thank for ur boldness transparencies in public specially at church nip it quick 🙏 hope this pastor learn a lesson and to those who think they can bring just anyone to the Pulpit and disrespect the house of our savior.
My question is why did no one get up and leave?
I agree 100%, Mark was humble and quickly left the stage when asked. Lindall has since read Mark Driscoll's subsequent private texts publicly in order to further criticize Driscoll - after telling Mark he would prefer private communication!! Exactly right!- a talk about the dangers of Jezebel spirit in churches and in our lives would have added so much quality to this conference.
This is my church and has been for quite a few years and I just cant wrap my head around this. Ive been in tears all day.
Prayers for you. Yes it's heartbreaking & tears are needed!
The church members need to repent and rebuke that spirit on behalf of what happened. If the Pastor doesn’t receive it, then run away as fast as you can.
It's disgusting - make strippers on poles 😮
@favap1 I remember how hard it was to leave a church because of wrong behavior and teaching that was at one time Godly. But I am more saddened to see what happened to the people who stayed because they were mislead, and the terrible fruit it produced in their life.
@@cathylorentzen1435 The church has became so commercialized over the years. Sad, cuz I loved that church.
Prayer Warriors need to pray against the evil that was released against church! 🙏🏼✝️🙏🏼🕊️🗡️
My heart broke for Paster Mark!! He was up most of the night in prayer. He knew he had to speak to everyone. They were calling wrong right! He had to call WRONG, WRONG! GOD DEMANDED IT! AND PASTOR MARK OBEYED! It broke his heart, the whole situation! Take his lead fellow Christians, it is time to stand up, speak out, and walk on with God and in his ❤️love!!! Hide it under a bussel, NO!!! WERE ARE GONNA LET IT SHINE!!!🎉❤🎉