If London & Nabers both play who should I start at WRs and flex Ppr? Nico,Nabers,London,Downs or Montgomery? My WR5 is Tillman so gonna hold onto him and maybe start against Saints, or if my receivers are healthy just roll out big 3 or play matchups with all getting a good target share? I can do same with backs with Bijan,JT & Montgomery. Drop Ferguson with Dak out and play Engram full time and have Love & Darnold playing matchups but drop Darnold after this week and pick up D Jones?
I think the fact that you guys have to apologize to your producers for just doing your show every.single.week is maybe a sign you don’t have very good producers. Just let the show flow man!
This whole "The Bears" rhetoric is _SUCH_ BS. If Waldron is this bad, how did none of you notice it last year in Seattle? If Eberflus is So Not Involved in the offense why is it the same as it was last year? Because *you guys* are attached to your Preconceived Notions? Nothing else it seems. Week 2 of '22 'Flus already was boasting that he was at least meddling in the offensive play-calling. This is why reporters questioned *him, not Getsy* about the Questionable Play-calling that resulted in Fields not throwing to open receivers. This 'Eberflus is an Innocent Bystander who Can't Understand The Offense' is 100% made up. By yourselves. Even if he didn't understand it, if you can see it's bad, then at the very best Eberflus is 100% inept. Yet here he is again defending the play-calls you insist are Waldron's. They aren't. Eberflus is defending himself.
@@obtusemooose Oh, yes the _fans_ did. But when channels purporting to specialize & offer analysis of the NFL miss things that the fans don't, what's that tell you? Also, what does it say that you the fans could see this but no one else on the team did? This is hardly the worst example of it, the Jags have it worse. But look at what it _does_ to teams. I can only imagine Josh Allen & several other locker-room leaders on the Bills have taken steps to retain team morale despite everything McDermott's done to erode it. It looks like players on the Eagles may have done the same but thoroughly? At some point in the playoffs if not the regular season, the Eagles' players are going to Not Want To Win if that means Sirianni also wins. I've lived the majority of my life in two places with different cultures around this. One was a good ol' boy system where the White Anglo-Saxon Christian Males dominated & no one felt like they could undo that so no one tried. Where this _isn't_ the case, people hate to see people they dislike succeed. I found it hilarious that Matt Canada was caught getting upset when Pickett called an audible & won a game. But MC *didn't get fired* for that _OR_ for saying into a microphone that he had a Preconceived Notion that that team was, in his mind, incapable of such things. Imagine what that did to the Steelers, hearing that their own OC didn't believe in them? I hate to see this. I love to see players get the chance to excel. I thought that the internet would provide a means to that end. It still can. But it's weird. The vast majority of fans seem to prefer to have people to laugh at for the failures of their coaches, even when it's their own team that suffers. So the majority of fans prefer the culture of dominance by those in charge now.
@@ChewsCarefully i actually agree with all of this. even though i think its more of a cultural issue. i dont see why people are unwilling to empathize with athletes even though they are far more like the every man than coaches and especially ownership are. like with caleb, where whenever he struggles at all (in a bad situation on a complete mess of an organization) everyone wants to be the first guy to say "i always knew he was gonna be bad. what a loser". i dunno. anyways, i think flus is a pretty lame coach and waldron has been pretty awful as well. i think some of the apprehension with media types is that coaches often get blamed for things that arent their fault, but that also means that they will not blame coaches for things that are. at the end of the day i think bears coaching staff throwing players under the bus in unnaceptable. i think that far outweighs any of the scheme issues.
@@obtusemooose Let's see if I can parse this out & make it comprehensible (since you said "I don't know why"). College coaches need to win because winning teams = funding for the school. NFL team owners are _business_ owners. Likely not one of them has the first clue as to what makes a good or winning coach. & when humans don't understand something, you get the whole gamut from Jerry Jones who over-compensates to owners of the Bears & Jags who are way too hands-off. What all humans have in common is that they fear what they don't (fully) understand. The psychology of most fans is the following: a short season makes every loss seem huge, & every thing that doesn't look perfect adds to the discomfort. When people feel discomfort they seek comfort. Reality almost _never_ provides that. Players get traded, sign elsewhere. Coaches can stay for decades & are more closely associated as being only what they represent, The Franchise. People's loyalties are with The Franchise. Since they associate coaches more with it than players, there you go. Up to a point. I'm being general. Nothing I've said so far applies to what's happened on the Bears, Waldron etc. The 'cultural issue' comes from NFL team owners being *business* owners. They're the ones hiring the coaches & don't know what makes a good or winning coach. A large part of what got Jim Harbaugh out of the NFL was that team staff got annoyed at him being more player-friendly than a corporate manager. What we have with the Bears _seems to me at least_ to be the following: ownership is hands-off. Poles is running the show. One of the reasons Eberflus was hired over more qualified candidates (like Ben Johnson) was that however it was asked, 'Flus was okay with carrying out what Poles wanted, which is what *most* new GMs want: to oust the players at key positions & locker-room leaders from the previous GM & HC. In order to do this, you would have to take steps to make Fields look inept because after the coaches, GM etc. the QB is the next face of a franchise. I have some evidence to support this, but I'll go into detail only if asked as most people dismiss this as conspiratorial & also don't like long replies.
@@ChewsCarefully i mean thats fair. i do think the issue is more of a broad cultural one, in which people are more willing to side with the people who own things rather than those who work for those owners. i also think at least half of the problem with eberflus is money, hes cheaper. and hes also much cheaper to keep around rather than hiring another guy while still paying his buyout. same with poles.
Man I needed this tonite. Bad vibes abound and this does it nice.
Thank you Nate and Matt!!
harmon is right about taskrabbit
If London & Nabers both play who should I start at WRs and flex Ppr? Nico,Nabers,London,Downs or Montgomery? My WR5 is Tillman so gonna hold onto him and maybe start against Saints, or if my receivers are healthy just roll out big 3 or play matchups with all getting a good target share? I can do same with backs with Bijan,JT & Montgomery. Drop Ferguson with Dak out and play Engram full time and have Love & Darnold playing matchups but drop Darnold after this week and pick up D Jones?
The Bears are ruining my life. Great story by the way, Nate!
I think the fact that you guys have to apologize to your producers for just doing your show every.single.week is maybe a sign you don’t have very good producers. Just let the show flow man!
This whole "The Bears" rhetoric is _SUCH_ BS. If Waldron is this bad, how did none of you notice it last year in Seattle? If Eberflus is So Not Involved in the offense why is it the same as it was last year? Because *you guys* are attached to your Preconceived Notions?
Nothing else it seems. Week 2 of '22 'Flus already was boasting that he was at least meddling in the offensive play-calling. This is why reporters questioned *him, not Getsy* about the Questionable Play-calling that resulted in Fields not throwing to open receivers.
This 'Eberflus is an Innocent Bystander who Can't Understand The Offense' is 100% made up. By yourselves. Even if he didn't understand it, if you can see it's bad, then at the very best Eberflus is 100% inept. Yet here he is again defending the play-calls you insist are Waldron's. They aren't. Eberflus is defending himself.
everyone noticed it in seattle last year. all of the seahawks fans hated him
@@obtusemooose Oh, yes the _fans_ did. But when channels purporting to specialize & offer analysis of the NFL miss things that the fans don't, what's that tell you? Also, what does it say that you the fans could see this but no one else on the team did? This is hardly the worst example of it, the Jags have it worse.
But look at what it _does_ to teams. I can only imagine Josh Allen & several other locker-room leaders on the Bills have taken steps to retain team morale despite everything McDermott's done to erode it. It looks like players on the Eagles may have done the same but thoroughly? At some point in the playoffs if not the regular season, the Eagles' players are going to Not Want To Win if that means Sirianni also wins.
I've lived the majority of my life in two places with different cultures around this. One was a good ol' boy system where the White Anglo-Saxon Christian Males dominated & no one felt like they could undo that so no one tried. Where this _isn't_ the case, people hate to see people they dislike succeed. I found it hilarious that Matt Canada was caught getting upset when Pickett called an audible & won a game.
But MC *didn't get fired* for that _OR_ for saying into a microphone that he had a Preconceived Notion that that team was, in his mind, incapable of such things. Imagine what that did to the Steelers, hearing that their own OC didn't believe in them?
I hate to see this. I love to see players get the chance to excel. I thought that the internet would provide a means to that end. It still can.
But it's weird. The vast majority of fans seem to prefer to have people to laugh at for the failures of their coaches, even when it's their own team that suffers. So the majority of fans prefer the culture of dominance by those in charge now.
@@ChewsCarefully i actually agree with all of this. even though i think its more of a cultural issue. i dont see why people are unwilling to empathize with athletes even though they are far more like the every man than coaches and especially ownership are. like with caleb, where whenever he struggles at all (in a bad situation on a complete mess of an organization) everyone wants to be the first guy to say "i always knew he was gonna be bad. what a loser". i dunno. anyways, i think flus is a pretty lame coach and waldron has been pretty awful as well. i think some of the apprehension with media types is that coaches often get blamed for things that arent their fault, but that also means that they will not blame coaches for things that are. at the end of the day i think bears coaching staff throwing players under the bus in unnaceptable. i think that far outweighs any of the scheme issues.
@@obtusemooose Let's see if I can parse this out & make it comprehensible (since you said "I don't know why"). College coaches need to win because winning teams = funding for the school. NFL team owners are _business_ owners.
Likely not one of them has the first clue as to what makes a good or winning coach. & when humans don't understand something, you get the whole gamut from Jerry Jones who over-compensates to owners of the Bears & Jags who are way too hands-off. What all humans have in common is that they fear what they don't (fully) understand.
The psychology of most fans is the following: a short season makes every loss seem huge, & every thing that doesn't look perfect adds to the discomfort. When people feel discomfort they seek comfort. Reality almost _never_ provides that.
Players get traded, sign elsewhere. Coaches can stay for decades & are more closely associated as being only what they represent, The Franchise. People's loyalties are with The Franchise. Since they associate coaches more with it than players, there you go.
Up to a point. I'm being general. Nothing I've said so far applies to what's happened on the Bears, Waldron etc. The 'cultural issue' comes from NFL team owners being *business* owners. They're the ones hiring the coaches & don't know what makes a good or winning coach. A large part of what got Jim Harbaugh out of the NFL was that team staff got annoyed at him being more player-friendly than a corporate manager.
What we have with the Bears _seems to me at least_ to be the following: ownership is hands-off. Poles is running the show. One of the reasons Eberflus was hired over more qualified candidates (like Ben Johnson) was that however it was asked, 'Flus was okay with carrying out what Poles wanted, which is what *most* new GMs want: to oust the players at key positions & locker-room leaders from the previous GM & HC.
In order to do this, you would have to take steps to make Fields look inept because after the coaches, GM etc. the QB is the next face of a franchise.
I have some evidence to support this, but I'll go into detail only if asked as most people dismiss this as conspiratorial & also don't like long replies.
@@ChewsCarefully i mean thats fair. i do think the issue is more of a broad cultural one, in which people are more willing to side with the people who own things rather than those who work for those owners. i also think at least half of the problem with eberflus is money, hes cheaper. and hes also much cheaper to keep around rather than hiring another guy while still paying his buyout. same with poles.