Linux Mint is a little underappreciated in the Linux world, I think. It's about the most functional and logical Linux distro I can think of. And for people that seem to think it's "too newbie-friendly" - I don't see what's wrong with that?
@Kartikey Kushwaha I think we're talking about different things. You're referring to the customisability and/or 'open'ness of the OS. I'm referring to the creators of Linux Mint being very open and transparent about what features they include and what they remove and why. 🙂
Linux Mint has caught a lot of flack over the years and some of it has been way overboard in my opinion. I still run it on a few machines that I have and intend to continue to do so well into the future. With regards to It being considered a "newbie friendly" bistro, that is a good thing. You can certainly use it regardless of your level so yeah it's crazy when people look down upon it.
My main issue with linux mint is subjective: I wish their default theme was a lot nicer like zorin's and deepins. It looks bland to me. Although I do appreciate that linux mint let's you easily customize the look and feel.
I use Linux Mint 20.1 Mate. Switched over to linux from Windows few months ago and I am 100% satisfied and happy with my decision. I now understand the meaning of the line 'Peace of mind' ☺️☺️☺️
Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop is really a pleasure to use and this release refines it as the previous releases have progressively done so. No nasty surprises, incremental improvements, this release even more so, the new apps are truly beneficial. I wish they could just concentrate all their resources on Cinnamon but it's their choice and they are doing good work for the community. Over time I have donated more to this OS than any other OS, including Windows because I think they really care for their users and are doing stellar work. I wish them all the best.
I am glad that they support MATE. I can’t really put my finger on what it is. Partially I it’s the start menu having the leftmost applications names written out on mate but not Cinnamon. Other than that I don’t really know what it is that I miss on Cinnamon. I really like Linux mint, it’s default settings seams well chosen (except for the browser). I recently made my first donation to the project.
Their XFCE version of one of the best. It’s my XFCE distro of choice. I’ve installed that on several people’s computers that were getting to old for windows. I’m kinda the IT guy in the family, but i don’t like constantly having to fix problems, at least for others. I run arch myself, but I would never install anything but Linux mint for anyone else, unless they were more advanced as a user.
Mint Cinnamon is like getting what's good from Windows, making it better and removing all the dumb stuff Windows is forcing to an user. There are other distros made for people who want Windows-like interface but Mint does it best giving you freedom of customization if you need it.
I like the mate desktop. It's simple, very fast and very stable. I don't really care about flashy looks or annoying notifications. It's arguably more feature rich in certain ways than XFCE (for example, it has split view in the file manager, when XFCE does not). I haven't tried Cinnamon yet, it looks quite nice too.
I liked this video. I have always felt that Cinnamon feels bloated and somewhat slow. That's why I went to Mate and never looked back. Now that I have a newer system, I would like to revisit Cinnamon and see if it is peppier than it used to be on my older machine. I would love to see a similar breakdown on Manjaro and its desktop variants. I am a LM user currently, but I am considering a dual boot with Manjaro in the future. As always, great content, and I could listen to you all day talking about anything. Always have loved the Aussie accent. I hope that is not offensive, as it is truly meant as a compliment. Take care and stay healthy, and I look forward to your next video.
I've certainly found Cinnamon on Mint 20, slightly more sluggish, compared to Cinnamon on previous releases of Mint. But I do like the fact that Cinnamon supports colour management profiles natively using Gnome Color Manager...
Great job, and very interesting. I really enjoyed this video and I'm looking forward to when (and if) you add a review of Linux Mint Xfce to the group. I ALWAYS enjoy the content you provide and the way you present it. It's done in a professional and very interesting manner, and I appreciate your contribution to the community.
Absolutely brilliant, informative overview and comparison. Knocked it out of the park! I'm considering moving over to Mint from Ubuntu Mate after I do some major updates on my hardware (new mobo, drives, processor)
One thing I would say though - I personally prefer XFCE for a lightweight desktop environment. Yes, I know, because of the recent Gtk3 updates it's not as light as it used to be - but at least it's still being updated. To me, XFCE always felt prettier than MATE - and it even manages to feel more modern in some aspects. They actually added fractional scaling in the latest release ! So yeah, even if it's (maybe) not as mature as the original GNOME 2 base, think this desktop is really worth giving a try !
mate-menu (advanced menu) is the best application launcher that exists in the Linux world besides that of cinnamon and the various menus found on Plasma. practical, functional, modern is a feast for the eyes, it is a pity that on Ubuntu Mate it has not been valued as it was right to do, fortunately here on Mint mate-menu is the default main menu .
I enjoy installing and using various linux distributions as they come out, but I always go back to Mint Cinnamon as my main distribution after a while . It might not be the most spectacular, but for standard users, it simply works 'out of the box' without any complication and the software provided in very fine, in my opinion. One of the best distributions if you want to convice someone to switch from windows.
I tried Mate on Ubuntu last year. It would not work properly with my multi display setup, one above the other rather than side by side. Each time I tried to apply the display settings that way the desktop would majorly wig out. I now use Mint Cinnamon as my main system and I love it. It just works, it is very user friendly, and it is very stable (as opposed to my experience with Arch updates breaking things on multiple occasions).
Both are awesome, but I always choose MATE. It's waaaay more customizable than it's given credit for. Cinnamon restricts me from setting my panels up the way I like; two at the bottom with the very bottom panel having menu, launchers, workspace switcher, etc., and the other panel has my open windows list. A bit old fashioned maybe, but MATE lets me have it my way without any fuss.
Mate can be pretty modern with a proper theming and addons. And it's blazing fast on over 10 years old office laptops. You can make it look like any Windows or MacOS with icon packs, addons and themes. It supports transparency and various animations when you need it. Default Mate theming and Icons look quite oldschool, but it was supposed to give the GNOME 2 experience by default. You can try Solus Mate that looks fairly modern by default.
You hit on my biggest issue with Mint, is that they enforce their own preferences beyond just default configs. It's kinda why I like Manjaro. It's very Linux politics free and will pretty much let me do as I please. So I can have native apps running alongside a snap and a flatpak using Chromium to search Bing and it just doesn't care.
What do you mean? Is it the default search engine being hard to change and or snap not being installed by default (and blocked, but it’s easy to remove the block) or something else (also)? I really don’t like that it’s so hard to get the browser back to normal. But I like that they but in the block for snap (so that it’s not unintentionally installed). I have not seen any other places where they have changed anything “beyond default configs”.
I switched to Linux when Win7 was getting close to EOL. I searched for a distro that looked and worked most like Win 7. It was also important to me that it run Steam and all my games. That was Mint/Cinnamon, so that's what I used and have been using ever since.
When I was switching to Linux (because Microsoft really really wanted me to stop using Windows 7, so I did), I tried to figure out which distro I wanted to use. Nothing was really clear to me until one article likened MATE to Windows XP and I was sold. This video of yours would've been very helpful back then but now it just confirms that I made the right choice. Good work.
Same here. I cut my teeth on Gnome2 and have been very fond of it ever since. Over the past ten years I have checked out a bunch of other things but mate' just doesn't lose it's appeal to me. Back when Ubuntu abruptly went to Unity I stayed on Ubuntu 10.10 until early 2012 when I went to Linux Mint. Thankfully there was Mate' to give me that feeling of happiness again as I really wasn't feeling Unity and really didn't like Gnome 3 either.
Great review! One comment though, I wish you would slow down a bit when you are showing us around. Sometimes you open and close windows and menus, etc. so fast that it's hard to get a good sense of a system's look and feel. Great job otherwise, keep up the good work!
Not a linux poweruser, but i was tuned on to linux mint cinnamon to install a chromeos hack, but since then, i have installed this on an old c2d desktop and it is prefectly snappy for hardware nearly 15 years old, and on a spinning hard drive no less.
I used to use Mint and I had installed MATE. I riced that thing so hard, hideous mish mash theming, weird applet arrangement, and keyboard shortcuts that didn't make sense, it was terrible and awesome.
Many thank for the work, great video...I had to evaluate the same two distros for Mint 17.3 (Rosa) and chose MATE because of the lower resource demands.
I like the idea of MATE and the whole "minimalist" thing lol but I'm running Cinnamon. I didn't think about it too deeply but by now I've installed everything and I'm settled in
Lmao I never thought to right click on the menu button on the panel - I've been wanting to change that logo icon but never bothered to look it up. Thanks for that 😆
@@ethanl9656 I prefer to use the kernel that comes with the distro. I've tried replacing kernels before with UKUU and it was awful. Just don't get why Mint won't use something a bit closer to newer kernels. Stability with newer kernels on other distros like Pop OS and Manjaro work great for me.
Web Apps is fork/collaboration of Peppermint Linux's ICE Single Site Browser (SSB) that was around as long as 2010. Another good point is MATE's minimalism. I'm happy that they just dont shipped "GNOMEified" MATE and stripped in to minimum. If i ever wanted 'Polished' MATE i would install Ubuntu MATE altogether (which is My Favorite *buntu distro).
MATE for most of us, Cinnamon, icon centric, for nerds. Right click on task bar. Tap add to panel. Scroll down to workplace switcher. Tap and add workplace switcher. Flip to different desktops rather than minimizing a program.
I can understand why they stick with an older Ubuntu base but I'm surprised they don't update the hardware stack (kernel etc) so they can support newer hardware, better GPU performance, etc. It forces a lot of people to go to less user friendly but more up to date distributions like Manjaro/Arch, Fedora, etc.
They do sort of the same thing with the Chromium package in their repository. When I installed it I noticed the default search engine was Yahoo. It was less of a hassle to change back to Google though compared to what you have to go through in Firefox.
Loved the video. Helps me grow my understanding of Linux. I'm currently Win user, but I am slowly planning to move to Mint. I just like how LInux is faster and cheaper to operate, over time.
I realize I'm 3 to about 5 weeks late commenting here, but was wondering if you've began using Linux Mint yet? If you haven't, I don't recommend dual booting ( meaning installing Linux Mint into the same storage drive as Windows is already installed into) Linux Grub and Windows MBR were not, are still not, and probably never will be designed to play nicely together. It's , overall, just a recipe for data loss and no booting disaster. Keep the two worlds ( linux and windows) separate and you'll keep your sanity and be able to learn Linux at your own pace. Just remember to be patient with yourself and don't get frustrated if you can't solve any problem in Linux the first attempt or three. Take your breaks as needed and come back when you're ready. That's ok. Remember that you didn't learn how to use a Windows computer your very first time using it in a day or even a week either. I'm no expert but I'm on the linuxmintforums.com site and have used Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon 100% daily since Late July so I can probably help with the basic level problems here and there. I have some links to that will help make the transition from Windows to Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon easier ( Mouse scroll wheel speed adjustment, preventing it from auto-booting up/waking up your PC, Proper bluelight filter that is just as equal imo to Win 10's "strength" slider adjuster for its own built in blue light filter " night light" called Qredshift, etc) Also, grab a spare external storage drive ( preferably a ssd with a usb to 2.5 drive adapter cord ( 5 to 15 bucks on amazon that is large enough to match your LM 20 cinnamon installed drive) to use with Timeshift backups. Foxclone is also your bestfriend as it is an excellent balance between being a good system image backup/cloner to Clonezilla but with a reasonably easy user friend GUI to deal with instead. ( grab a 8GB or bigger usb 3.0 , again...3.0 not 2.0 as 2.0 really isn't fast enough, thumb drive to load Foxclone into) Foxclone works regardless of the type of operating system ( meaning Linux based, Windows Based, and Mac OS based too) Let me know if can I help. Cheers.
@@motoryzen Never too late, MotorRyzen, never too late. I just got up, after a short nap, because I can't go anywhere with the hard freeze that's happening in Houston, Texas. No hamburgers, no cokes, NOTHING. So, I'm stuck at home, and I'll read your comment -- now or after a short meal, then reply to you. Thanks.
@@motoryzen Well, thanks. I read it. Very nice of you to write so much, but then I write similar comments on YT too. Best of all of that, is thanks for offering to answer some questions. Well, I do plan to feel better about Linux. I tried old Linux in school (say early / mid 2000's), way back when, when it was really bad. And, it somewhat turned me off. I couldn't hardly figure out anything, and you'd go to people -- then, they'd say JUST FTP and GET SOURCE CODE and COMPILE IT. Yeah, right. I had a graphics problem (I think) back then, and I couldn't figure it out. So, I tried to do what they said: REALLY, REALLY TRIED, and it was waste of time. Didn't fix anything, made it worse. And, I didn't have a clue where to go, who to ask, etc. And, I read online websites to try and fix that old computer, but I just gave up. And, there didn't seem to be TH-cam back then, nor websites where the documentation / steps were as well-written and clear as they are now. So, I think it's easier now for people to come up to speed. But, I think it is easier now to get comfortable in Linux. I think I feel more comfortable now, not proficient nor anything. But I don't fear and am able to install it, get it going, and figure some of the basic stuff out. But, I have recently got to places where it's frustrating again. Like I was trying to get Samba setup & going, where I could access to Linux from my Windows machine and v.v. But, it gave me problems, because I couldn't see that Linux install on the network. But, I'm not sure if it was being in a VM on my Windows machine, my security stuff on Windows (WinDefender or AVG), or just my dumbness about getting everything setup right. Eventually, what I plan to do, is dedicate a GOOD machine to Linux. I have good motherboards, no problem, but I am not sure if my older AMD R9-270 graphics card would work well. I also have a GTX 1050ti (I think) -- got cheap on ebay before the explosion of costs recently -- for its NVENC encoder. But, I plan to setup a full machine and learn that way, because I think VM's are nice ... but they also cause some problems too.
@@poelemic3642 Yeah Linux in the early first 10 years or so of the new millennium was still more , imo, in it's real user-friendly infancy. First time I really dabbled in it was Ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 back when Win 7 first launched first launch in late 2009 and it was just not usable - enough for me. And yes It's taken a long time for , overall in a bigger majority, for the Linux community as a whole to chill out with any elitists attitudes in welcoming and helping new comers ( think of two vertial lines/meters at opposite ends of a balance stick. on the left, you have Linux veterans who often are also impatient snobs, and on the far right you have Windows users who are brand new to touching Linux that sometimes are just lazy to research things and just want things " spoon fed" to them..... .... Here in 2021, both sides are about within spitting distance of each other coming towards the middle...Win users making more research and trial and error efforts, while some Linux veterans are seeing that and finally exercising more patience and offering more help up front.... I've seen a good bit of Samba frustrations posted on the linuxmintforum.com site involving Mint 20 versus 19 and older versions. I don't have really any room to talk there as I've never needed to deal with Samba or much in accessing networked PC's or drives. That r9 270 will work plenty well. I had the r9 280x and currently running an 8GB rx 580 sapphire nitro+ until some damn 6800XT's get into stock ( or if it ends up being many months from now as in August...I'll just wait until Christmas time and try again with - i hope it will be available by that time- the next gen of red team gpus ). I've ran both of those vid cards on LM 17.3, 18's ( sold the r9 280x sometime when 19 came out) Cinnamon and all worked like a champ out of the box once I installed/updated mesa and vulkan. At that time in May 2017 when I first bought my rx580, Windows 8.1 refused to take, be it through Windows update or manually downloading and trying to install the graphics driver since AMD official site claimed they would not support 8 or 8.1 and only 10 . (sigh) at that time I wasn't 100% ready to ditch Windows and was forced to deal with win 10. Win 8.1's Win explorer allowed me to have a tiny bit of space ( horizontally) between "list view" of flies/folders making it easier to mouse select any one of them. But I never had a problem since LM 17.3 onward with red team cards being declined to work in Linux. That's the beauty of red team video cards/gpu for 99% of the chances, besides vulkan and mesa updates, they're ready to rock thanks to the drivers being built into the Kernel since at least 4.something and newer. Nvidia gpus...well..most often there is nomodeset to have to play with via the GRUB booting options to ensure it doesn't boot into a damn black screen ( that's one reason I'm done using Nvidia cards) and sometimes the newest or even recommended proprietary nvidia drivers ( Via Linux Mint's own Driver Manager search and install) refuse to play nicely. I had decent luck with sc2 on a gtx 580 1.5GB vram vid card ( galaxy brand) back in 2011 on LM 12 cinnamon but that was the only exception I could think off and still had to do the nomodeset in grub booting options to get everything to show up. I'm in central Mississhitty myself, and the sleet began showing up earlier this afternoon at Walfart. Thus It's probably a safe bet My ass will be stuck at home not safely able to go to work ( kinda irritates me as silly as that sounds because I'll need to use a PTO day to ensure my paycheck next week stays the same.. waaa lol. )
The multi-monitor display settings is quirky. I have 3 each 27inch monitors and 1 superwide 49 inch. The wide is my main monitor, I have 2 of the 27's above the wide and the 3rd 27 set to vertical next to all 3 of others. Man, trying to drag the virtual monitors around to place them took me about an hour. The icons would not drag properly. It was like playing a broken game of Tetris. On top of that when you do finally get them setup there's still the quirk of the mouse cursor will only move over to the neighbor monitor at points where the icons show them touching. Well, there's no way to scale the icons to represent the actual sizes of the real monitors, so I have to really be deliberate when i want to move to another monitor. It can be frustrating. But, this is not something Windows 10 can do right either...so it's not limited to Mint. I really hope someone can fix it one day though.
Creating high fidelity audio player to run JRiver Media Center and not much else. Think Xfce might run fewer background processes. Windows 10 does not sound nearly as transparent as Linux Mint with Cinnamon. What do I give up with Xfce?
Mate is good, but a key missing feature for me, is the support for colour profiles for monitor, printer etc. Personally, I'm preferring KDE nowadays. Currently I'm on Kubuntu, but Fedora 33 KDE Spin looks interesting!
If my memory serves me correct linux mint is around either almost as long as ubuntu or as long as ubuntu i'm not clear on that. Aslo their logo was bit different years ago and aside from ubuntu that was the only other distro i knew of back then.
Mint created tons of stuff that really makes sense and makes their desktop stylised and worth to use, especially when you just want something that "works" and looks decent. I always get annoyed by the notification icons on the MATE desktop, it looks so big compared to the panel, ugly and poorly done while Cinnamon doesn't. You said it looks pretty, the DE, but if you notice, some of their programs looks very GNOME-ish like Software Manager, Web Apps, Hypnotix with the Hamburger Menu while System Reports, Backup Tool, Nemo look totally different and inconsistent/incoherent in design. Yes, it's not as perfect as people tend to say.
LM20 Mate user, here. I agree that the new LightDM seems minimalist, but in watching this video, Cinnamon seems to be just as minimalist as Mate. In fact, with those bright gray windows, Cinnamon looks rather ugly. #1. Display Settings - EXACTLY the same as your Cinnamon version. No fractional scaling, of course, as it wasn't available in 20. #2. Notifications - same as your Cinnamon version. The only difference I see is that I use a Dark theme - who doesn't? - so my Mate DE looks prettier than your Cinnamon DE. #3. I'll agree that the theme store looks interesting, BUT, are you sure that this isn't available in Mate? Did you even try it? I am interested in this because nearly every comparison video I have ever seen trashes Mate and glorifies Cinnamon, even though I can NOT see any difference between them. And anything I see done in Cinnamon, I can do in Mate. #4. Firefox. If you save your user config to the cloud and then import it into your new distro, you should have minimal problems setting it up.
@@Icycoldcoke Does linux have a good desktop duplication api like Windows? I assumed not since most tutorial videos tend to have stuttery frame rates. :)
You should make a video like gentoo linux 8 years later or something thats how I found your channel and stuff was the gentoo video and it would be cool for a update maybe on some ways to optimize gentoo or some of the new changes
Years ago, Mint BROKE my heart when they dropped the KDE edition. Of course I can add it but it is not the same as an official flavor where the developers make sure everything works.
I wish that people developing all those linux distros focused on better drivers for Linux so that for example Bluetooth works properly. At the moment it is a bit of a pain to use
Hi great video thanks. I must say I installed linuxmint 20.1 and a number of option you showed I cannot find; themes, desklets.. an other builtin service I cant find is Online Accounts. Is it possible there are some changes since you made this video? Thanks
Great video and clear explanations. Since switching from Windows to Linux, it has been my desire to just be a Linux User ... not a developer or the like. Unfortunately, using Linux forces the user to be more than just a user ... and that forces users like me to find good instruction on the net. For me, good instruction doesn't assume that the viewer understands the concepts and computer language that the expert has.
I am far from an expert, and had my fair share of Linux frustrations, my main hurdle was finding the correct drivers for my wifi adapter which was incorrectly listed on the manufacturer's site. After that more followed of course but if you keep it in your mind to push on rather than give up, you'll start to build more of an understanding of what you're doing the more you do it, and you may also start wanting to tweak your machine. In the case of Linux, stubbornness builds competence.
Welp, with a Toughbook CF-19 MK5 and a CF-31 MK5 using Cinnamon, the touchscreen will not calibrate properly. The mouse curser does not show on screen at any time during install and after install. UEFI. They don't like Fujitsu at all. Must do offline install or GRUB fails to install. Thats a deal breaker for sure.
I recently just started using linux distros for desktop usage. Could you do a manjaro review ? I decided to go with it as my entry to linux desktop env.
Manjaro is NOT an Desktop Environment :-) It's a distribution. * Manjaro is good if you want to have the mostly fresh applications * Mint is good if you want a stable distribution ("distro"). I would recommend Linux Mint Cinnamon for beginners. Then you may try Linux Manjaro KDE :-)
I am a bit unsure what i should use on my 8 year old Laptop i3 - MATE or XFCE? MATE is propably better supported and polished and uses only slightly more resources then XFCE
Hello I have cinnamon right now my web browser is very slow , when I had windows 7, I did not have this problem , people keep suggesting switch to MATE , I'm using less than 2 gig of ram[4 total] and my dual core CPU IS RUNNING AT 95 % when the browser is running , any ideas ?
Using Linux Mint Cinnamon 19 and would like to upgrade to Mint 20.1. Is there a way of doing this in the update manager?. Been using Mint for about 3 years but still a new user. Cheers
I upgraded from 20 to 20.1 from the update manager so I think there should be an option in there for you as well. If not, I'm afraid you'll have to make a clean install
Could some one please explain to me how to put short cuts on the desktop like you can do in Windows, I have installed Linux Lime and it works great, but I am very old and need short cuts to the Bank ,Amazon,Doctors Office,and shopping.I get lost using the Firefox browser.
Mint has been great noob friendly distro for me i also have fedora 34 install along side which i needed for work but unfortunately i was having hard time installing nvidia driver for my laptop 100 tried failed already so i give up and had to settle in linux mint its breeze to use for us windows users
You...didn't try reinstalling whatever version of Linux Mint Cinnamon or didn't try a Time shift restoration or image restoration that you hopefully had sense enough to use to back the system up with ..WHILE It was working correctly? (scratches chin)
Thanks much! I heard a rumor Apple is getting rid of Intel Core ? How will that affect Windows and Linux ? How will affect pictures and videos ? I am thinking of switching to Linux Mint ... What hardware is best for this ? I am so angry; my computer no longer has a cd drive...
Hi, thank you for your effort and usefull infos in this video. I have few issues in the beginning After installation I wanted to make some adjustment and it requires Password. How can I remove password on Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2? Sarting typing on my keyboard I suddenly realised I have qwertz instead of qwerty keyboard Only can choose German (neo qwertz), but still other symbols are scattered on different positions If you have solutios I appreciate.. Thank you and have a good day
Sorry My man... YOu were only right on 2 things about MATE. Thats its lighter and Doesnt have Notification centers blah blah... But its enough advanced to Cinnamon. Advanced here doesn't alway mean better...MATE is just looks simpler out of the Box.... in 5 Minutes you can adjust that! I ALWAYS do.. I remove one of the Dual panels... enlarge the fonts on all except terminal... change wallpaper... add Force Quit and Classic menu and CPU monitor to the top bar.... and turn on Compiz.... and Turn PLANK Dock on,,,,this alone destroys Cinnamon which runs sluggish. Nothing beats MATE.... infact Cinnamon is meant to be a sort of MATE based on GNOME 3.....the based on GNOME 3 is what ruins it.
Can I just uninstall Firefox that comes preinstalled with Mint and use the Flathub version? Does everything work correctly compared to the deb version?
You may need to boot that Live installation Linux Mint thumb drive into Compatibility mode first. Install it that way, see if that works if you haven't tried that yet.
You can use any of the desktop environments on pretty much any distro. Mint (like many other distros) offer pre-installed desktop environment versions of their distros for simplicity to new users. So, Ubuntu and Mint and Fedora can all be run with any of the main ones including Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE, LXDE and KDE Plasma, it comes down to what you want your experience to be. You can install and switch between desktop environments by simply type in a single command to the terminal. It will install the new desktop side by side to the current, then a reboot / logout, and at your next login, you can simply choose the newly installed desktop environment you want to use as you go in. There is plenty of online support for how to do these things. That being said, some desktop environments get more momentum from developers of distros than others (e.g. Mint developers throw a lot of support to Cinnamon and Mate, which is why they get promoted). And Ubuntu has Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc which are just the desktop preinstalled on Ubuntu. But you can change it. It is truly flexible. In reality, distros mostly differ based on these things: - the base / parent they have come from (e.g. from debian parent or redhat parent etc), which leads to - the package manager (software manager) they choose (apt, dpkg, emerge, pacman, etc) - how some settings options are given pretty configuration buttons (e.g. like a control panel) rather than using a command line - your start point being a complete OS (e.g. Mint and Ubuntu and Fedora) or a build your own from ground up (e.g. Gentoo and Arch) Hopefully this helps.
@@xwinglover I installed kubuntu and then plasma on it. So what do I call that? And what's difference kubuntu and fedora is there any point me trying the other one? How do you pick which one to use if they are all the same
@@NSAwatchesME what you have is the Ubuntu distro running with a KDE Plasma desktop experience / environment. Ubuntu and Fedora are different in that Ubuntu comes from the Debian parent tree and Fedora from the RedHat parent tree. They use different package managers by default. Fedora comes with YUM and Ubuntu with APT. But you can also install use other package managers on both if you prefer. Fedora is "leading edge" (which means almost bleeding edge in the delivery of applications and new features) and Ubuntu is a little back from that (more focused on a stable experience). Nothing wrong with either. Both excellent options. And either way, you can tune the system to the way you want. There is some learning but Linux is like that. Greater power and responsibility. Even still, less chance of the system from dying the way Windows does. In summary, your distro or more about a start point than end product, and about the philosophy of the developers. There are lots of good comparison websites. There is no right or wrong choice, its simply preference.
@@xwinglover and I do some photo video editing. For that a minimum requirement is 10bit and HDR. I saw forums people having problems with that. Is linux not natively supporting these technologies?
@@NSAwatchesME yes, it is probably a little early for the solutions to those. There is some progress on 10bit. But it will come; user demand drives the push for feature support in the open source world, I would give it some time before moving your production machine. Use this time window to learn and mess around trying the different distros using Oracle Virtualbox, or better on an old machine if you have one.
I am just bored of windows 10, and I want to try Linux mint I heard there's a distro which is like windows where u can install appliances like windows exe files. I don't know which distro that is. Can any one help me
Linux Mint is a little underappreciated in the Linux world, I think. It's about the most functional and logical Linux distro I can think of. And for people that seem to think it's "too newbie-friendly" - I don't see what's wrong with that?
@Kartikey Kushwaha Linux Mint is among the most transparent of all mainstream distros! Not sure where you're coming from!!
@Kartikey Kushwaha I think we're talking about different things. You're referring to the customisability and/or 'open'ness of the OS. I'm referring to the creators of Linux Mint being very open and transparent about what features they include and what they remove and why. 🙂
Yes designing a hidden system to bypass testing facilities is pretty complex. VW's trickery makes the old Toyota probably even in emissions pollution.
Linux Mint has caught a lot of flack over the years and some of it has been way overboard in my opinion. I still run it on a few machines that I have and intend to continue to do so well into the future.
With regards to It being considered a "newbie friendly" bistro, that is a good thing. You can certainly use it regardless of your level so yeah it's crazy when people look down upon it.
My main issue with linux mint is subjective: I wish their default theme was a lot nicer like zorin's and deepins. It looks bland to me. Although I do appreciate that linux mint let's you easily customize the look and feel.
I use Linux Mint 20.1 Mate. Switched over to linux from Windows few months ago and I am 100% satisfied and happy with my decision.
I now understand the meaning of the line 'Peace of mind' ☺️☺️☺️
Hey bro, does Skype work for Linux? Can you share your screen? Also, how to use Microsoft Office 2016, is that possible?
@@SoyGivanok Skype works very well. Office 2016 works with Wine installed, but you should rather use Office 365.
@@vitorazevedo4472 does office REALLY work?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Yes. In Linux Mint 19.3 works, and I suppose that will happen in other Debian based distros.
@@vitorazevedo4472 i have only tried office 2010 on wine and it crashes sometimes, and some features doesnt work.
Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop is really a pleasure to use and this release refines it as the previous releases have progressively done so. No nasty surprises, incremental improvements, this release even more so, the new apps are truly beneficial. I wish they could just concentrate all their resources on Cinnamon but it's their choice and they are doing good work for the community. Over time I have donated more to this OS than any other OS, including Windows because I think they really care for their users and are doing stellar work. I wish them all the best.
I am glad that they support MATE. I can’t really put my finger on what it is. Partially I it’s the start menu having the leftmost applications names written out on mate but not Cinnamon. Other than that I don’t really know what it is that I miss on Cinnamon.
I really like Linux mint, it’s default settings seams well chosen (except for the browser). I recently made my first donation to the project.
Their XFCE version of one of the best. It’s my XFCE distro of choice. I’ve installed that on several people’s computers that were getting to old for windows. I’m kinda the IT guy in the family, but i don’t like constantly having to fix problems, at least for others. I run arch myself, but I would never install anything but Linux mint for anyone else, unless they were more advanced as a user.
Mint Cinnamon is like getting what's good from Windows, making it better and removing all the dumb stuff Windows is forcing to an user. There are other distros made for people who want Windows-like interface but Mint does it best giving you freedom of customization if you need it.
I like the mate desktop. It's simple, very fast and very stable. I don't really care about flashy looks or annoying notifications. It's arguably more feature rich in certain ways than XFCE (for example, it has split view in the file manager, when XFCE does not). I haven't tried Cinnamon yet, it looks quite nice too.
I liked this video. I have always felt that Cinnamon feels bloated and somewhat slow. That's why I went to Mate and never looked back. Now that I have a newer system, I would like to revisit Cinnamon and see if it is peppier than it used to be on my older machine. I would love to see a similar breakdown on Manjaro and its desktop variants. I am a LM user currently, but I am considering a dual boot with Manjaro in the future. As always, great content, and I could listen to you all day talking about anything. Always have loved the Aussie accent. I hope that is not offensive, as it is truly meant as a compliment. Take care and stay healthy, and I look forward to your next video.
I've certainly found Cinnamon on Mint 20, slightly more sluggish, compared to Cinnamon on previous releases of Mint. But I do like the fact that Cinnamon supports colour management profiles natively using Gnome Color Manager...
I found Linux MInt Cinnamon to overheat my new Dell desktop computer.
Cinnamon never felt that way for me. In fact, it only yses 1.1gb on idle after a 25 second boot and automatic loading my VPN on startup.
Great job, and very interesting. I really enjoyed this video and I'm looking forward to when (and if) you add a review of Linux Mint Xfce to the group. I ALWAYS enjoy the content you provide and the way you present it. It's done in a professional and very interesting manner, and I appreciate your contribution to the community.
Absolutely brilliant, informative overview and comparison. Knocked it out of the park!
I'm considering moving over to Mint from Ubuntu Mate after I do some major updates on my hardware (new mobo, drives, processor)
One thing I would say though - I personally prefer XFCE for a lightweight desktop environment.
Yes, I know, because of the recent Gtk3 updates it's not as light as it used to be - but at least it's still being updated.
To me, XFCE always felt prettier than MATE - and it even manages to feel more modern in some aspects. They actually added fractional scaling in the latest release !
So yeah, even if it's (maybe) not as mature as the original GNOME 2 base, think this desktop is really worth giving a try !
mate-menu (advanced menu) is the best application launcher that exists in the Linux world besides that of cinnamon and the various menus found on Plasma. practical, functional, modern is a feast for the eyes, it is a pity that on Ubuntu Mate it has not been valued as it was right to do, fortunately here on Mint mate-menu is the default main menu .
I enjoy installing and using various linux distributions as they come out, but I always go back to Mint Cinnamon as my main distribution after a while . It might not be the most spectacular, but for standard users, it simply works 'out of the box' without any complication and the software provided in very fine, in my opinion. One of the best distributions if you want to convice someone to switch from windows.
I tried Mate on Ubuntu last year. It would not work properly with my multi display setup, one above the other rather than side by side. Each time I tried to apply the display settings that way the desktop would majorly wig out. I now use Mint Cinnamon as my main system and I love it. It just works, it is very user friendly, and it is very stable (as opposed to my experience with Arch updates breaking things on multiple occasions).
I also use Mate instead of Cinnamon. It is faster and save hungry ressources specially on older computers
Both are awesome, but I always choose MATE. It's waaaay more customizable than it's given credit for. Cinnamon restricts me from setting my panels up the way I like; two at the bottom with the very bottom panel having menu, launchers, workspace switcher, etc., and the other panel has my open windows list. A bit old fashioned maybe, but MATE lets me have it my way without any fuss.
Wow, I didn't know you could do that ! :D
Don't feel bad. I think the old fashioned look is really cool as well. Have you used wobbly windows?
Mate can be pretty modern with a proper theming and addons. And it's blazing fast on over 10 years old office laptops. You can make it look like any Windows or MacOS with icon packs, addons and themes. It supports transparency and various animations when you need it. Default Mate theming and Icons look quite oldschool, but it was supposed to give the GNOME 2 experience by default. You can try Solus Mate that looks fairly modern by default.
This is definitely the best MInt review I''ve watched so far. Thank you!
You hit on my biggest issue with Mint, is that they enforce their own preferences beyond just default configs. It's kinda why I like Manjaro. It's very Linux politics free and will pretty much let me do as I please. So I can have native apps running alongside a snap and a flatpak using Chromium to search Bing and it just doesn't care.
What do you mean? Is it the default search engine being hard to change and or snap not being installed by default (and blocked, but it’s easy to remove the block) or something else (also)?
I really don’t like that it’s so hard to get the browser back to normal. But I like that they but in the block for snap (so that it’s not unintentionally installed). I have not seen any other places where they have changed anything “beyond default configs”.
Nicely produced and informative.
Thank you IG.
I switched to Linux when Win7 was getting close to EOL. I searched for a distro that looked and worked most like Win 7. It was also important to me that it run Steam and all my games.
That was Mint/Cinnamon, so that's what I used and have been using ever since.
When I was switching to Linux (because Microsoft really really wanted me to stop using Windows 7, so I did), I tried to figure out which distro I wanted to use. Nothing was really clear to me until one article likened MATE to Windows XP and I was sold.
This video of yours would've been very helpful back then but now it just confirms that I made the right choice. Good work.
I like Mate, but that's mostly long familiarity. I liked gnome2 ...
Same here. I cut my teeth on Gnome2 and have been very fond of it ever since. Over the past ten years I have checked out a bunch of other things but mate' just doesn't lose it's appeal to me.
Back when Ubuntu abruptly went to Unity I stayed on Ubuntu 10.10 until early 2012 when I went to Linux Mint. Thankfully there was Mate' to give me that feeling of happiness again as I really wasn't feeling Unity and really didn't like Gnome 3 either.
@@swift7169 nice
Appreciate you making this kind of video! Thanks and always look forward to your informative content.
I really enjoyed your tutorial .Nice , clean and fluent . Thank you so much ... I'll definitely setup & try Cinnamon asap.
Great review! One comment though, I wish you would slow down a bit when you are showing us around. Sometimes you open and close windows and menus, etc. so fast that it's hard to get a good sense of a system's look and feel. Great job otherwise, keep up the good work!
Excellent tutorial Blane! Thanks for creating this video for us.
Cinnamon is my favorite and you should go in-depth on this distro.
Not a linux poweruser, but i was tuned on to linux mint cinnamon to install a chromeos hack, but since then, i have installed this on an old c2d desktop and it is prefectly snappy for hardware nearly 15 years old, and on a spinning hard drive no less.
I used to use Mint and I had installed MATE. I riced that thing so hard, hideous mish mash theming, weird applet arrangement, and keyboard shortcuts that didn't make sense, it was terrible and awesome.
Many thank for the work, great video...I had to evaluate the same two distros for Mint 17.3 (Rosa) and chose MATE because of the lower resource demands.
I like the idea of MATE and the whole "minimalist" thing lol but I'm running Cinnamon. I didn't think about it too deeply but by now I've installed everything and I'm settled in
I'm beginers using linux mint, I realy loved this video. Thanks
All right: going for a release with Cinnamon desktop. Also good that snapd is disabled by default.
Lmao I never thought to right click on the menu button on the panel - I've been wanting to change that logo icon but never bothered to look it up. Thanks for that 😆
On the Mate Wiki “In MATE 1.20, which was released in February 2018, support for HiDPI was added and the GTK+ version got increased to 3.22.”
Mint was the first modern Linux I used and still love it. I do wish they would use a more up to date kernel for those of us with new hardware.
Mint just uses Ubuntu's base kernel.
But they have 'Edge' ISO which is essentially a 20.1 with newer kernel. Check that out.
@@UnworthyUnbeliever Thanks, didn't know about that.
You could try downloading Ubuntus HWE, hardware enablement, kernel. It's the LTS kernel with more up to date hardware support.
@@ethanl9656 I prefer to use the kernel that comes with the distro. I've tried replacing kernels before with UKUU and it was awful. Just don't get why Mint won't use something a bit closer to newer kernels. Stability with newer kernels on other distros like Pop OS and Manjaro work great for me.
No snap is part of why I use Mint. I found snaps to be very slow to run and make a mess when showing mounts
If you want to use the Mate Desktop, I think as you pointed out, just use Ubuntu Mate for a better experience.
Web Apps is fork/collaboration of Peppermint Linux's ICE Single Site Browser (SSB) that was around as long as 2010.
Another good point is MATE's minimalism. I'm happy that they just dont shipped "GNOMEified" MATE and stripped in to minimum. If i ever wanted 'Polished' MATE i would install Ubuntu MATE altogether (which is My Favorite *buntu distro).
MATE for most of us, Cinnamon, icon centric, for nerds.
Right click on task bar. Tap add to panel. Scroll down to workplace switcher. Tap and add workplace switcher. Flip to different desktops rather than minimizing a program.
I was kinda hoping for the video to end with "but forget everything I said because the best version is XFCE".
Nah xfce sucks
@@paimonbutter but it sucks in a lightweight, stable, and functional way
I agree with you. Xfce is better.
Right? I install cinnamon, but usually install xfce later for use instead because the performance is so much better.
I can understand why they stick with an older Ubuntu base but I'm surprised they don't update the hardware stack (kernel etc) so they can support newer hardware, better GPU performance, etc. It forces a lot of people to go to less user friendly but more up to date distributions like Manjaro/Arch, Fedora, etc.
They do sort of the same thing with the Chromium package in their repository. When I installed it I noticed the default search engine was Yahoo. It was less of a hassle to change back to Google though compared to what you have to go through in Firefox.
I'm pretty sure yahoo searches give back some add revenue to the Mint project so that's why it's default.
Loved the video. Helps me grow my understanding of Linux. I'm currently Win user, but I am slowly planning to move to Mint. I just like how LInux is faster and cheaper to operate, over time.
I realize I'm 3 to about 5 weeks late commenting here, but was wondering if you've began using Linux Mint yet? If you haven't, I don't recommend dual booting ( meaning installing Linux Mint into the same storage drive as Windows is already installed into)
Linux Grub and Windows MBR were not, are still not, and probably never will be designed to play nicely together. It's , overall, just a recipe for data loss and no booting disaster.
Keep the two worlds ( linux and windows) separate and you'll keep your sanity and be able to learn Linux at your own pace. Just remember to be patient with yourself and don't get frustrated if you can't solve any problem in Linux the first attempt or three. Take your breaks as needed and come back when you're ready. That's ok. Remember that you didn't learn how to use a Windows computer your very first time using it in a day or even a week either.
I'm no expert but I'm on the linuxmintforums.com site and have used Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon 100% daily since Late July so I can probably help with the basic level problems here and there.
I have some links to that will help make the transition from Windows to Linux Mint 20 Cinnamon easier ( Mouse scroll wheel speed adjustment, preventing it from auto-booting up/waking up your PC, Proper bluelight filter that is just as equal imo to Win 10's "strength" slider adjuster for its own built in blue light filter " night light" called Qredshift, etc)
Also, grab a spare external storage drive ( preferably a ssd with a usb to 2.5 drive adapter cord ( 5 to 15 bucks on amazon that is large enough to match your LM 20 cinnamon installed drive) to use with Timeshift backups.
Foxclone is also your bestfriend as it is an excellent balance between being a good system image backup/cloner to Clonezilla but with a reasonably easy user friend GUI to deal with instead. ( grab a 8GB or bigger usb 3.0 , again...3.0 not 2.0 as 2.0 really isn't fast enough, thumb drive to load Foxclone into) Foxclone works regardless of the type of operating system ( meaning Linux based, Windows Based, and Mac OS based too)
Let me know if can I help. Cheers.
@@motoryzen Never too late, MotorRyzen, never too late. I just got up, after a short nap, because I can't go anywhere with the hard freeze that's happening in Houston, Texas. No hamburgers, no cokes, NOTHING. So, I'm stuck at home, and I'll read your comment -- now or after a short meal, then reply to you. Thanks.
@@motoryzen Well, thanks. I read it. Very nice of you to write so much, but then I write similar comments on YT too. Best of all of that, is thanks for offering to answer some questions. Well, I do plan to feel better about Linux. I tried old Linux in school (say early / mid 2000's), way back when, when it was really bad. And, it somewhat turned me off. I couldn't hardly figure out anything, and you'd go to people -- then, they'd say JUST FTP and GET SOURCE CODE and COMPILE IT. Yeah, right. I had a graphics problem (I think) back then, and I couldn't figure it out.
So, I tried to do what they said: REALLY, REALLY TRIED, and it was waste of time. Didn't fix anything, made it worse. And, I didn't have a clue where to go, who to ask, etc. And, I read online websites to try and fix that old computer, but I just gave up. And, there didn't seem to be TH-cam back then, nor websites where the documentation / steps were as well-written and clear as they are now. So, I think it's easier now for people to come up to speed.
But, I think it is easier now to get comfortable in Linux. I think I feel more comfortable now, not proficient nor anything. But I don't fear and am able to install it, get it going, and figure some of the basic stuff out. But, I have recently got to places where it's frustrating again. Like I was trying to get Samba setup & going, where I could access to Linux from my Windows machine and v.v. But, it gave me problems, because I couldn't see that Linux install on the network. But, I'm not sure if it was being in a VM on my Windows machine, my security stuff on Windows (WinDefender or AVG), or just my dumbness about getting everything setup right.
Eventually, what I plan to do, is dedicate a GOOD machine to Linux. I have good motherboards, no problem, but I am not sure if my older AMD R9-270 graphics card would work well. I also have a GTX 1050ti (I think) -- got cheap on ebay before the explosion of costs recently -- for its NVENC encoder. But, I plan to setup a full machine and learn that way, because I think VM's are nice ... but they also cause some problems too.
@@poelemic3642
Yeah Linux in the early first 10 years or so of the new millennium was still more , imo, in it's real user-friendly infancy. First time I really dabbled in it was Ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 back when Win 7 first launched first launch in late 2009 and it was just not usable - enough for me.
And yes It's taken a long time for , overall in a bigger majority, for the Linux community as a whole to chill out with any elitists attitudes in welcoming and helping new comers ( think of two vertial lines/meters at opposite ends of a balance stick. on the left, you have Linux veterans who often are also impatient snobs, and on the far right you have Windows users who are brand new to touching Linux that sometimes are just lazy to research things and just want things " spoon fed" to them.....
.... Here in 2021, both sides are about within spitting distance of each other coming towards the middle...Win users making more research and trial and error efforts, while some Linux veterans are seeing that and finally exercising more patience and offering more help up front....
I've seen a good bit of Samba frustrations posted on the linuxmintforum.com site involving Mint 20 versus 19 and older versions. I don't have really any room to talk there as I've never needed to deal with Samba or much in accessing networked PC's or drives.
That r9 270 will work plenty well. I had the r9 280x and currently running an 8GB rx 580 sapphire nitro+ until some damn 6800XT's get into stock ( or if it ends up being many months from now as in August...I'll just wait until Christmas time and try again with - i hope it will be available by that time- the next gen of red team gpus ).
I've ran both of those vid cards on LM 17.3, 18's ( sold the r9 280x sometime when 19 came out) Cinnamon and all worked like a champ out of the box once I installed/updated mesa and vulkan. At that time in May 2017 when I first bought my rx580, Windows 8.1 refused to take, be it through Windows update or manually downloading and trying to install the graphics driver since AMD official site claimed they would not support 8 or 8.1 and only 10 . (sigh) at that time I wasn't 100% ready to ditch Windows and was forced to deal with win 10. Win 8.1's Win explorer allowed me to have a tiny bit of space ( horizontally) between "list view" of flies/folders making it easier to mouse select any one of them.
But I never had a problem since LM 17.3 onward with red team cards being declined to work in Linux.
That's the beauty of red team video cards/gpu for 99% of the chances, besides vulkan and mesa updates, they're ready to rock thanks to the drivers being built into the Kernel since at least 4.something and newer.
Nvidia gpus...well..most often there is nomodeset to have to play with via the GRUB booting options to ensure it doesn't boot into a damn black screen ( that's one reason I'm done using Nvidia cards) and sometimes the newest or even recommended proprietary nvidia drivers ( Via Linux Mint's own Driver Manager search and install) refuse to play nicely. I had decent luck with sc2 on a gtx 580 1.5GB vram vid card ( galaxy brand) back in 2011 on LM 12 cinnamon but that was the only exception I could think off and still had to do the nomodeset in grub booting options to get everything to show up.
I'm in central Mississhitty myself, and the sleet began showing up earlier this afternoon at Walfart. Thus It's probably a safe bet My ass will be stuck at home not safely able to go to work ( kinda irritates me as silly as that sounds because I'll need to use a PTO day to ensure my paycheck next week stays the same.. waaa lol. )
MATE user. Just wanted Gnome 2 back. Not interested in all of the gimmicks that add nothing. Multiple displays work on MATE.
The multi-monitor display settings is quirky. I have 3 each 27inch monitors and 1 superwide 49 inch. The wide is my main monitor, I have 2 of the 27's above the wide and the 3rd 27 set to vertical next to all 3 of others. Man, trying to drag the virtual monitors around to place them took me about an hour. The icons would not drag properly. It was like playing a broken game of Tetris. On top of that when you do finally get them setup there's still the quirk of the mouse cursor will only move over to the neighbor monitor at points where the icons show them touching. Well, there's no way to scale the icons to represent the actual sizes of the real monitors, so I have to really be deliberate when i want to move to another monitor. It can be frustrating. But, this is not something Windows 10 can do right either...so it's not limited to Mint. I really hope someone can fix it one day though.
glad to see your back!
Great video, subbed. Any chance of a quick XFCE follow up to this?
Creating high fidelity audio player to run JRiver Media Center and not much else. Think Xfce might run fewer background processes. Windows 10 does not sound nearly as transparent as Linux Mint with Cinnamon. What do I give up with Xfce?
Mate is good, but a key missing feature for me, is the support for colour profiles for monitor, printer etc. Personally, I'm preferring KDE nowadays. Currently I'm on Kubuntu, but Fedora 33 KDE Spin looks interesting!
Ha! I must have jinxed myself. Quite a few glitches with KDE on Kubuntu at the moment, so I suspect I may end up back on Mint Cinnamon.
Спасибо, очень информативно!
If my memory serves me correct linux mint is around either almost as long as ubuntu or as long as ubuntu i'm not clear on that. Aslo their logo was bit different years ago and aside from ubuntu that was the only other distro i knew of back then.
Mint is based on Ubuntu, so it has not been around as long. It came out in 2006, where Ubuntu was released in 2004.
Thanks for info that's why i said almost as long as ubuntu or as long as ubuntu because i wasn't sure. Regardless both are great linux distros anyway.
xfce is the one for me!!
Mint created tons of stuff that really makes sense and makes their desktop stylised and worth to use, especially when you just want something that "works" and looks decent.
I always get annoyed by the notification icons on the MATE desktop, it looks so big compared to the panel, ugly and poorly done while Cinnamon doesn't.
You said it looks pretty, the DE, but if you notice, some of their programs looks very GNOME-ish like Software Manager, Web Apps, Hypnotix with the Hamburger Menu while System Reports, Backup Tool, Nemo look totally different and inconsistent/incoherent in design. Yes, it's not as perfect as people tend to say.
LM20 Mate user, here.
I agree that the new LightDM seems minimalist, but in watching this video, Cinnamon seems to be just as minimalist as Mate. In fact, with those bright gray windows, Cinnamon looks rather ugly.
#1. Display Settings - EXACTLY the same as your Cinnamon version.
No fractional scaling, of course, as it wasn't available in 20.
#2. Notifications - same as your Cinnamon version.
The only difference I see is that I use a Dark theme - who doesn't? - so my Mate DE looks prettier than your Cinnamon DE.
#3. I'll agree that the theme store looks interesting, BUT, are you sure that this isn't available in Mate?
Did you even try it?
I am interested in this because nearly every comparison video I have ever seen trashes Mate and glorifies Cinnamon, even though I can NOT see any difference between them. And anything I see done in Cinnamon, I can do in Mate.
#4. Firefox. If you save your user config to the cloud and then import it into your new distro, you should have minimal problems setting it up.
Do you use a capture card for smooth desktop capture? :)
looks like OBS
@@Icycoldcoke Does linux have a good desktop duplication api like Windows?
I assumed not since most tutorial videos tend to have stuttery frame rates. :)
Can be A Virtual machine with OBS recording through windows
YOOOO SEAN
15:39 I want to see what's in the MATE Desktop Settings > Interface
You should make a video like gentoo linux 8 years later or something thats how I found your channel and stuff was the gentoo video and it would be cool for a update maybe on some ways to optimize gentoo or some of the new changes
Years ago, Mint BROKE my heart when they dropped the KDE edition. Of course I can add it but it is not the same as an official flavor where the developers make sure everything works.
I propose cinnamon for a decent pc/laptop. But on the other hand it's so boring because it's perfect!
I wish that people developing all those linux distros focused on better drivers for Linux so that for example Bluetooth works properly. At the moment it is a bit of a pain to use
I miss drag and drop feature from menu to the desktop. Is there possibly an extension that would allow this?
Mate works well for me
Cinnamon is running faster than xfce. Linux mint cinnamon I liked very much
Just install Flatpak Firefox.
Hi great video thanks.
I must say I installed linuxmint 20.1 and a number of option you showed I cannot find; themes, desklets.. an other builtin service I cant find is Online Accounts.
Is it possible there are some changes since you made this video?
Thanks
I am using xfce
Great video and clear explanations. Since switching from Windows to Linux, it has been my desire to just be a Linux User ... not a developer or the like. Unfortunately, using Linux forces the user to be more than just a user ... and that forces users like me to find good instruction on the net. For me, good instruction doesn't assume that the viewer understands the concepts and computer language that the expert has.
My mint installation was flawless. I didn’t need to research anything.
I am far from an expert, and had my fair share of Linux frustrations, my main hurdle was finding the correct drivers for my wifi adapter which was incorrectly listed on the manufacturer's site. After that more followed of course but if you keep it in your mind to push on rather than give up, you'll start to build more of an understanding of what you're doing the more you do it, and you may also start wanting to tweak your machine.
In the case of Linux, stubbornness builds competence.
Linux Mint MATE is 👌👌👌
Welp, with a Toughbook CF-19 MK5 and a CF-31 MK5 using Cinnamon, the touchscreen will not calibrate properly. The mouse curser does not show on screen at any time during install and after install. UEFI. They don't like Fujitsu at all. Must do offline install or GRUB fails to install. Thats a deal breaker for sure.
Using Linux Mint Mate
I recently just started using linux distros for desktop usage. Could you do a manjaro review ? I decided to go with it as my entry to linux desktop env.
Manjaro is NOT an Desktop Environment :-)
It's a distribution.
* Manjaro is good if you want to have the mostly fresh applications
* Mint is good if you want a stable distribution ("distro").
I would recommend Linux Mint Cinnamon for beginners. Then you may try Linux Manjaro KDE :-)
Make a video about Solus Plasma. I thunk it's worth a try OS.
I am a bit unsure what i should use on my 8 year old Laptop i3 - MATE or XFCE? MATE is propably better supported and polished and uses only slightly more resources then XFCE
Hello I have cinnamon right now my web browser is very slow , when I had windows 7, I did not have this problem , people keep suggesting switch to MATE , I'm using less than 2 gig of ram[4 total] and my dual core CPU IS RUNNING AT 95 % when the browser is running , any ideas ?
In my second boot my linux mint menu icon was replaced by the XFCE icon, is that normal?
No, but easy to fix.
I love MintOS.
Using Linux Mint Cinnamon 19 and would like to upgrade to Mint 20.1. Is there a way of doing this in the update manager?. Been using Mint for about 3 years but still a new user. Cheers
I upgraded from 20 to 20.1 from the update manager so I think there should be an option in there for you as well. If not, I'm afraid you'll have to make a clean install
Google "update Mint to 20"
Could some one please explain to me how to put short cuts on the desktop like you can do in Windows, I have installed Linux Lime and it works great, but I am very old and need short cuts to the Bank ,Amazon,Doctors Office,and shopping.I get lost using the Firefox browser.
What's linux lime?!
Wait... What? 😅
MATE hasn't been based on GTK2 for a long time, just so you know.
Wonderful!
Mint has been great noob friendly distro for me i also have fedora 34 install along side which i needed for work but unfortunately i was having hard time installing nvidia driver for my laptop 100 tried failed already so i give up and had to settle in linux mint its breeze to use for us windows users
make a review about Manjaro Gnome and Manjaro Xfce please?
Is there a good Linux book you could recommend.
What is the minimum hardware for Linux Mint Mate ?
Cinnamon keeps saying it's corrupt. Ended up using K because I can't fix Cinnamon.
You...didn't try reinstalling whatever version of Linux Mint Cinnamon or didn't try a Time shift restoration or image restoration that you hopefully had sense enough to use to back the system up with ..WHILE It was working correctly? (scratches chin)
Thanks much! I heard a rumor Apple is getting rid of Intel Core ? How will that affect Windows and Linux ? How will affect pictures and videos ? I am thinking of switching to Linux Mint ... What hardware is best for this ? I am so angry; my computer no longer has a cd drive...
What are your thoughts on Mint XFCE ? Is it a lot less resource hungry for older hardware than Mate ?
yes i use mint xfce daily and its super light and fast personally i think its better than the mate version
Hi, thank you for your effort and usefull infos in this video. I have few issues in the beginning
After installation I wanted to make some adjustment and it requires Password.
How can I remove password on Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2?
Sarting typing on my keyboard I suddenly realised I have qwertz instead of qwerty keyboard
Only can choose German (neo qwertz), but still other symbols are scattered on different positions
If you have solutios I appreciate.. Thank you and have a good day
Any good linux distos (desktop,gaming, programming etc) for a 10 year old comp..it has i3 3.20 Ghz and a 4gb ram also it has no gpu
Sorry My man... YOu were only right on 2 things about MATE. Thats its lighter and Doesnt have Notification centers blah blah... But its enough advanced to Cinnamon. Advanced here doesn't alway mean better...MATE is just looks simpler out of the Box.... in 5 Minutes you can adjust that! I ALWAYS do.. I remove one of the Dual panels... enlarge the fonts on all except terminal... change wallpaper... add Force Quit and Classic menu and CPU monitor to the top bar.... and turn on Compiz.... and Turn PLANK Dock on,,,,this alone destroys Cinnamon which runs sluggish.
Nothing beats MATE.... infact Cinnamon is meant to be a sort of MATE based on GNOME 3.....the based on GNOME 3 is what ruins it.
Does Cinnamon edition runs on AMD E450 (1.65 GHz dual core) CPU?
what's the different between Linux Mint and xubuntu ? which better and faster?
Can I just uninstall Firefox that comes preinstalled with Mint and use the Flathub version? Does everything work correctly compared to the deb version?
Mate is so much more efficient, robust and dependable than Cinnamon.
Please show GTK 4
GTK itself is a framework - nothing to see there if you are not a C++/GTK developer.
You most likely mean Gnome 40 :-)
Make a video about Gentoo.
Doesn't run on my dell studio laptop 1555, switches off as soon as live usb boots. Only works in compatiblty mode. Any solution?
You may need to boot that Live installation Linux Mint thumb drive into Compatibility mode first. Install it that way, see if that works if you haven't tried that yet.
Xfce ! ... is the best and speedy ;-))
Can I use internet on Linux Mint by USB tethering from a smartphone?
@Jash Thank you, it worked perfectly
100% Mate
What is difference mint cinamon and gnome and plasma?
Can I have plasma on mint or do I have to get ferel (or is it called fedora?)
You can use any of the desktop environments on pretty much any distro. Mint (like many other distros) offer pre-installed desktop environment versions of their distros for simplicity to new users. So, Ubuntu and Mint and Fedora can all be run with any of the main ones including Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE, LXDE and KDE Plasma, it comes down to what you want your experience to be.
You can install and switch between desktop environments by simply type in a single command to the terminal. It will install the new desktop side by side to the current, then a reboot / logout, and at your next login, you can simply choose the newly installed desktop environment you want to use as you go in. There is plenty of online support for how to do these things.
That being said, some desktop environments get more momentum from developers of distros than others (e.g. Mint developers throw a lot of support to Cinnamon and Mate, which is why they get promoted). And Ubuntu has Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc which are just the desktop preinstalled on Ubuntu. But you can change it. It is truly flexible.
In reality, distros mostly differ based on these things:
- the base / parent they have come from (e.g. from debian parent or redhat parent etc), which leads to
- the package manager (software manager) they choose (apt, dpkg, emerge, pacman, etc)
- how some settings options are given pretty configuration buttons (e.g. like a control panel) rather than using a command line
- your start point being a complete OS (e.g. Mint and Ubuntu and Fedora) or a build your own from ground up (e.g. Gentoo and Arch)
Hopefully this helps.
@@xwinglover I installed kubuntu and then plasma on it. So what do I call that?
And what's difference kubuntu and fedora is there any point me trying the other one? How do you pick which one to use if they are all the same
@@NSAwatchesME what you have is the Ubuntu distro running with a KDE Plasma desktop experience / environment.
Ubuntu and Fedora are different in that Ubuntu comes from the Debian parent tree and Fedora from the RedHat parent tree.
They use different package managers by default. Fedora comes with YUM and Ubuntu with APT. But you can also install use other package managers on both if you prefer.
Fedora is "leading edge" (which means almost bleeding edge in the delivery of applications and new features) and Ubuntu is a little back from that (more focused on a stable experience).
Nothing wrong with either. Both excellent options.
And either way, you can tune the system to the way you want. There is some learning but Linux is like that. Greater power and responsibility. Even still, less chance of the system from dying the way Windows does.
In summary, your distro or more about a start point than end product, and about the philosophy of the developers. There are lots of good comparison websites.
There is no right or wrong choice, its simply preference.
@@xwinglover and I do some photo video editing. For that a minimum requirement is 10bit and HDR. I saw forums people having problems with that. Is linux not natively supporting these technologies?
@@NSAwatchesME yes, it is probably a little early for the solutions to those. There is some progress on 10bit. But it will come; user demand drives the push for feature support in the open source world, I would give it some time before moving your production machine. Use this time window to learn and mess around trying the different distros using Oracle Virtualbox, or better on an old machine if you have one.
I am just bored of windows 10, and I want to try Linux mint I heard there's a distro which is like windows where u can install appliances like windows exe files. I don't know which distro that is. Can any one help me