I assumed that people on rednote are pretty equivalent to ppl on instagram: Folks who are well off enough to have the time and equipment to faff around on social media, and don’t realize their good fortune.
yes，You don't realize you're rich enough to be on the Internet too，Am I not right? I never knew my friends and I am rich. How did you feel when you saw my answer? I felt the same way when I saw yours
Totally agree.... the ones saying they want to move to China hope they do and give us an update on how their doing.... ooop forgot they won't be able to if it's negative
I remember a youtuber calling out Influencers for their high lifestyle, when they showed how they were lying and hiding information. TH-camrs caught receipts on their pages that were days old and the Influencers where trying to make out it was the day they were talking about. You would think they would learn none of this is real , stupidity at its finest
it is extremely disheartening to see people with the privilege of free speech and free access to information in america be so unaware of that precious gift and squander it by listening to literal propaganda out of misguided reflexive annoyance.
When you're showered with claims that Kamala is Marxist and Canada is Communist it might not occur to you that there exist worse things. And look, the Moscow subway is cleaner than New York's.
So glad I subscribed to this channel. It’s hilarious how gullible Americans wanna switch sides all of the sudden because what they watched on a CCP controlled app 😂😂😂
It's hilarious how gullible Americans think that Twitter, Facebook, or any other social media is any different to TikTok, just because the owner lives in state.
Also none of these idiots are asking why Bitedance hasn’t even bothered trying to sell the company. If it wasn’t a psyop designed specifically to benefit the Chinese government wouldn’t it benefit them at least to the tune of $100-200bn to sell to a US shell company? Are they banking on Trump doing their bidding for them?
I think people are leaning towards extremes rather than middle.That's what is happening with Xiaohongshu. People aren't taking time to understand the workings of the country and lean towards "extremely good" or "extremely bad".They're not trying to understand that there is middle ground and room for nuance.I am very curious about china and I found myself leaning towards these extremes in the beginning but with more content being consumed from all sorts of people you realize how complex societies are.In account of calling out the US on the aspects where they fail, they overlook or rather underlook the issues with china's government.Anyways,I really like your content.
As a mean of protest the action is ok, because in a pure capitalism fashion the users say : "I give my data to the one who entertain me more". However parsing or taking as an example PRC and CPP is ... how to put it. I grow up in a communist state :) and I "enjoied" the cold and hunger. App ok , to take that state as example noooooo
I suppose my best defense for dictatorship would be that American democracy is already teetering on the edge of a right wing semi fascist dictatorship, and I’d prefer an America with liberal principles, therefor encouraging left wing anti-democratic rhetoric is more likely to have a liberal dictatorship with values I like rather than a right wing semi fascist dictatorship whose values I don’t like. Obviously I would prefer a functional democracy, but republicans won’t let us have that, so we’re stuck fighting a different fight.
Followed you here from Tik Toc when I started seeing all the Red Note pro China stuff on Tic Tok I immediately thought of you and what your take would be on it. And yes Americans are gullible
And if you lumped those 15 countries ahead of the US together, their population wouldn't even amount to 1/3rd of America's. Many aren't even the size of a single large metroplex like NYC or LA.
@@DrHueyLi I guess the question is "Can their policies be applied to a country of 330+ million people of highly diverse nature?" Many of those listed countries are more peaceful than the US simply because they have either much smaller populations, much less size, and less issues because of that, or that they are simply more homogeneous, and thus have less societal friction.
people's republic of china was a majority agrarian country until like the 1960s. In 1962 80% of people in the country were engaged in gruelling subsistence agriculture. Now that figure is like 24%. While stuff like meat consumption and other data points is obviously behind the USA I don't think it's unreasonable to regard the net improvement in quality of life curve from PRC to USA as being favourable. obviously you wouldn't catch me trying to migrate from USA to China if I was a median income person but while millennials and so on are seeing home ownership increasingly out of their reach and their living standards decline I don't think it's unreasonable to look over at china and think 'wtf'
yes, chinese homeownership rate might be higher than us, but do you know why? because majority of young people rely on their parents to buy houses and cars, that's a cultural difference often overlooked when discussing this topic
1:09 China per capita protein consumption is higher than that of US, it is last year data. You can narrow it down to meat, but Chinese people consumes a lot soy.
At least look up to Singapore if you want to see how a "dictatorship" can work, especially for a then developing nation. But then again, it's just a city (-state).
True. I want to add that one advantage Singapore has is the free military protection by the US. So indirectly it's still a beneficiary of democracy. And Singapore does have free elections, except the formula is skewed toward the incumbent party.
@@DrHueyLi What kind of free military protection? Any evidence that you could show us or just talk? I could also claim I give USA free military protection and my bullshit is as good as yours.
Economic prosperity comes from economic liberty, strong rule of law (legal equality) and protection of property right. All things that a strong leader opposes!
@niu9432 It's amazing how personally offended morons were because the Supreme Court agreed overwhelmingly that a shitty weaponized social media platform was a national security risk.
@@niu9432It is probably the risk of an actual reduction in Liberty that allows for a forfeiture of legal equality. Just like how we don’t give prisoners the same rights as law-abiding citizens. Reducing their freedoms reduces the chance that they hurt other’s freedoms.
Oligarchy is the problem. Oligarch will say "economic liberty" but I define it, Rule of law but I write it, property right if it mine. How we clamp down oligarch without a strong leader?
@@tabinekoman If you’re talking about the western world more broadly we don’t live in an oligarchy, we generally live in a democratic corporatist system. But if you are worried about oligarchs you should be worried about Musk right now. Secondly, even if we did live in an oligarchy you don’t advocate to trade oligarchy for a dictatorship lol. But to be fair when youre at the point where you live in such an authoritarian corrupt system as an oligarchy its highly likely for one oligarch to come ontop eventually and purge his adversaries and absorb all power to himself.
I agree with your suggestion, people should go visit themselves. Like I did last year, granted that I did not visit the most rural places but the places that I visited, it pretty much like what RedNote shows. People on Rednote are just like you and me, regular people. Of course it is up to you, if you value free speech, as in you want to cuss out Xi Jinping for some reason, then don't go, and believe what you want.
problem is your boy is a reactionary. They're a zionist. The only reason they're doing this is because they've been pushed to do so by the state department. They previously had no followers(because they had a failed comedy career) and got cut a deal to post pro-American propaganda and they took it.
The fundamental lesson that life continues to showcase is that a lot of people are fundamentally gullible and dumb as hell. Which is a cause for great frustration tbh...
You've talked about it a bit in past videos but it would be nice to get a slighter in depth dive into Bo Xilai's "electoral campaign" and the threat it posed to Xi's accension to power. Most of the videos on YT are about the murder scandal (obviously) but Bo using his Chongqing model as a vehicle for the top job (and almost succeeding!) is a fascinating subject.
It's a little hard because no one knows who exactly had the final call regarding succession. There was a vote, but with only one candidate on the ballot. So the agreement had to be made in advance. But by whom and when? There's no public information.
What do you call a political party that dictates only their own policies and ignores the other half of the country? America has 2 such parties that swap out dictatorial rule every 4-8 years. You're warning about dictatorships, and not realizing that America is an oligarchy.
I've been to China - visited the countryside as well. People living in conditions that you would not believe. No sanitation, no elecricity, no nothing. Went to Russia as well. Same stuff (less extreme though).
The majority of Chinese citizen are living in the prosperous areas concentrated on the east coast. I could also argue that Detroit is severely impoverished and some neighborhoods have no electricity and everything is run down as well even skid row.
@@dennisliuxinlu Not comparable. We are talking about middle-ages living conditions, not "run-down" areas. Going to the well to fetch water, these types of things. Don't think anyone has lived like that in America since the nineteenth century.
Western media also told biased story about China. Lot people life there improved a lot in past 30 years. People can go there to see the reality. Like Facebook, instagram lot people show good part of their life, rednote is no exception. But cost of live there is shockingly low. Democracy also can be easily manipulated.
@@bubonic285 "cost of live there is shockingly low", wait until you find out farmers and physical labor workers are shockingly poor and unprotected and basically treated worse than black people in segregated south africa
I think most people aren't interested in what form of government they live under, or macro-economic indicators. They care that things are OK inside their sphere of concern. Paying $10 or whatever for corn of the cob clearly signals things are not OK. But finding out that the bad people over there pay $1 for corn on the cob will blow minds.
But they don’t… and if they do, it’s because they make less than 10x the salary, making that corn on the cob more expensive. The point is, they aren’t living better.
@@cadenceew7933 I'm describing how the Tiktok refugees might be framing things. Not voicing agreement with how they think. I do nonetheless think its an open question as to who is 'living better'. The answer is probably more than a simple salary comparison.
@ That's why Huey Li brought up "purchasing power". In Macro Econ, this is known as PPP or Purchasing Power Parity. In simple terms, its your ability to buy things based off of your nominal income and the price of goods in your economy compared with someone else's income in their economy. For example, an American might buy corn on the cob for $10. Lets say their monthly income is $1,000. However, a Chinese person buys their corn for $5, yet their income is $400 dollars. Who has the cheaper corn? The answer is that Americans have the cheaper corn. Why? Because it costs less of their income to purchase their corn. That is what is known as "Purchasing Power". In this example (and in real life!) American money goes further in an American economy than Chinese money in a Chinese economy. Yes, this gets much more complex when we take global economies and trades into account. That being said, the general rule still applies; Americans have a higher PPP. Please come back if you have any more simple economic questions. Cheers.
@ Please pay attention - I will say it again I am not disputing this. I am making a wider point about 'living better' being more than income comparisons (that includes PP). Trends across areas like life expectancy, homicide rates, infant mortality rates also help build a picture. Hope that's a bit clearer for you now. Cheers.
People from TikTok immediately believing what they see on RedNote shows how people highly addicted to customized algorithm have lost their ability to do any fact checking or self research. Not surprised at all.
I have the opportunity to travel to both cities and the countryside. And having lived and seen much of the USA today. I would prefer the Chinese countryside any day. And believe me,cities are not my many attraction in any country i visit. Its not much,but 6 months at least gives one a picture of how people live in a country. So while your perspective of China as a dictatorship and USA as a democracy. Than i don't know how to tell you. I have visited people's home's and ordinary people's lives have greatly improved according to them.
I'm an ethnic Ukrainian and a Russophone who grew up in Latvia. What you describe sounds exactly like how most other Russophones in Latvia feel about our Eastern neighbour. And yet when I show them real people from Russia who have lived there their entire life and who tell them how life in Russia really is, they also choose to believe what they're being shown on Russian state media..
The actual standard of living of Chinese people is obviously not as good as the Little Red Book shows, but it is also not as bad as the Western media reports, depending on the target of the respective sample. With deflation on one side and inflation on the other, this divergence in sampling criteria is magnified.
The reason Chinese lower standard of living is because China has to fight Korean and Vietnam war while withstanding US sanction until 1980s. Americans has not right to judge China's position. Only PRC Chinese has the right
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Why do you defend the right for Israel to self-determine when they're holding an entire population under a violent, genocidal apartheid, but your gripe here is an "authoritarian" government? This seem hypocritical.
Literally, you're exposing some small samples with your tendency against the whole picture. Theoretically, you have made a biased result; that's your mistake misguiding Americans like what western media have done all the years. Not to mention Red Note, but Chinese version of TikTok, namly Douyin, the largest online society of short videos, seldeom shows what you said. There're poor people living in very tough condition, I know. But they are quite a small social group and the government has been improving their lives persistently. I must point out your mistake because Americans have been cheated by such stances for quite a long time.
My answer to these tiktoks praising China has been: why do so many Chinese people want to immigrate to Canada and the US? Who wants to immigrate to China??
Because they were brainwashed by the "Public Intellectuals", who claimed that US and Europe is a perfect world to live -- you just didn't have to work and the government would give you money for your whole life.
I’ve been glued to the rednote-related content over the last couple of days. The wholesome, friendly exchanges were beautiful to watch, but seeing Americans having breakdowns over how much better Chinese citizens have it…I was skeptical. It definitely made me question my own ideas about what the standard of living was like in China, but the dictatorship is undeniable and the surveillance is unparalleled. I think the Americans that went to Rednote and made videos about how much better life is in China were biased by a sense of rebellion and voyeuristic curiosity.
I think you're grossly underestimating the degree of poverty in the US. There is a significant difference between the kind of poverty that comes from lack of development, and that which forces you to go hungry while surrounded by food. The unhappiness of Americans is not new, Trump himself is proof of that. Some might have had a similar reaction if they had suddenly moved to an app hosted in a Scandinavian country, many people outside the US have been telling Americans that they are not envied for decades, Europe is better in many ways. But not as many, as it is all the more startling to see this from an "adversary" and one whose system they have been told is worse.
"They've been told" by whom? The media is full of doomsaying of Europe and generous flattering of China. If anything, Red Note reinforces what they're told by TV and social media. Also, do you really think poor people in China aren't "surrounded by food"? Almost every village has a Party Secretary with a BMW or something.
@DrHueyLi Dude. Are you seriously saying that the 'media' portrays china favorably . Do you live under a rock?. I know this is your own mini anti-china propaganda project you've got going but at least when you lie make it make sense. I find it incredibly funny when I see chinese looking people doing anti china propaganda . You're inviting hate on your own people. Hilarious!.
You tell'em brother you don't care , America was complaining about cost of living way before tiktok and red book ( note) you don't care if Americans are struggling. As long as they don't know the good side of china. You only want to talk about the bad side. 😅😂😅
I didn't take red note's word for it. I googled China's median income, median rent, and typical cost of living expenses. By that metric they're doing way better than we are
Top two Google results both say 3855 USD per month. I'm not moving there any time soon, I'm doing better than 60% of Americans. I have a union job with good benefits, like good health insurance. I can understand why someone not doing as well as me (like half the country) would be frustrated seeing the Chinese middle class doing well. But yeah of course medians are not the whole story
@@BarriWords Are you sure that the number is really in USD and not RMB? Because then it would be much more realistic. The Chinese GDP estimate for 2024 is about 19T USD which is about 13 500 USD per capita while your alleged median income is about 46 000 USD/year. Can you see the problem with your number here?
I always find it funny that so many of these podcasts are about personal freedoms when Professor Li is broadcasting from (I presume) California, one of the biggest nanny-states in the Union. As an example, he makes a snarky remark about gun-ownership/control, something near and dear to the hearts of many coastie leftists...but in the next breath he talks about how China's government is an overbearing dictatorship on its people, and never connects the two. If more people in China had guns in their hands, maybe their government would be less likely to push them around. That is why it's the second law of our country after freedom of speech. That being said, I find insights into how China lives on the ground invaluable. Please keep it up!
@@DrHueyLi Ah, apologies for my assumptions, then. You are right that gun ownership does not correlate with peacefulness, and those are two good examples. Some nations are simply less civilized than others, and more guns do not make them better. However, NOT having guns among the populace removes all realistic options for fighting against tyranny. You mentioned the attempted coup in South Korea. Those were brave people that showed up, but if the SOLDIERS had decided their orders were more important, nothing would have stopped them from simply shooting enough unarmed people to make them go away. Tienanmen Square is also something I know you would be familiar with as an example of this.
I assumed that people on rednote are pretty equivalent to ppl on instagram: Folks who are well off enough to have the time and equipment to faff around on social media, and don’t realize their good fortune.
That's accurate. Although I didn't know that is the case for instagram, it's accurate for rednote.
yes，You don't realize you're rich enough to be on the Internet too，Am I not right?
I never knew my friends and I am rich. How did you feel when you saw my answer? I felt the same way when I saw yours
I understand your point. I have been across China. People here do no understand.
It is crazy how people believed to what was shown in highly controlled social media
Gullible people believe to what they see on X, which is also highly controlled by its owner.
"don't believe your own lying eyes. don't believe what average citizens by the millions tell you about their own country. believe me"
@@darthvadeth6290 Yes, believer emperor Xi and the CCP controlled media.
You mean American media？ Highly controlled by capitals.
People were fooled by western media too. That is why they were shocked what they saw in rednote. You stupid
Totally agree.... the ones saying they want to move to China hope they do and give us an update on how their doing.... ooop forgot they won't be able to if it's negative
They look at the receipt and say “wow! Number low. Better life there!”. This is why it’s important to attend your high school economics class.
I remember a youtuber calling out Influencers for their high lifestyle, when they showed how they were lying and hiding information. TH-camrs caught receipts on their pages that were days old and the Influencers where trying to make out it was the day they were talking about. You would think they would learn none of this is real , stupidity at its finest
it is extremely disheartening to see people with the privilege of free speech and free access to information in america be so unaware of that precious gift and squander it by listening to literal propaganda out of misguided reflexive annoyance.
“Misguided reflexive annoyance,” that’s brilliantly stated!
When you're showered with claims that Kamala is Marxist and Canada is Communist it might not occur to you that there exist worse things. And look, the Moscow subway is cleaner than New York's.
Free speech mean nothing if you sick, hunger and feel cold.
American government loves slaves like you. Stay inside your own China-hating echo chamber.
Thanks for the honesty.
Please keep posting on TH-cam even though ban is lifted! I am thinking I’ll stay off TikTok
The American government it taking over TT.
I’m glad I found you on TH-cam! I really appreciate your insight and analysis.
So glad I subscribed to this channel. It’s hilarious how gullible Americans wanna switch sides all of the sudden because what they watched on a CCP controlled app 😂😂😂
It's hilarious how gullible Americans think that Twitter, Facebook, or any other social media is any different to TikTok, just because the owner lives in state.
Also none of these idiots are asking why Bitedance hasn’t even bothered trying to sell the company. If it wasn’t a psyop designed specifically to benefit the Chinese government wouldn’t it benefit them at least to the tune of $100-200bn to sell to a US shell company? Are they banking on Trump doing their bidding for them?
this person is a zionist. They don't actually care about China's "dictatorship"
Mexico has cheaper groceries, but somehow Mexico is poorer than the U.S.
Thank you for keeping things in perspective!
Thank you for this basic prudence ❤
I think people are leaning towards extremes rather than middle.That's what is happening with Xiaohongshu. People aren't taking time to understand the workings of the country and lean towards "extremely good" or "extremely bad".They're not trying to understand that there is middle ground and room for nuance.I am very curious about china and I found myself leaning towards these extremes in the beginning but with more content being consumed from all sorts of people you realize how complex societies are.In account of calling out the US on the aspects where they fail, they overlook or rather underlook the issues with china's government.Anyways,I really like your content.
What are the issues with the Chinese government you are talking about? What the MSM has been telling you?
As a mean of protest the action is ok, because in a pure capitalism fashion the users say : "I give my data to the one who entertain me more". However parsing or taking as an example PRC and CPP is ... how to put it. I grow up in a communist state :) and I "enjoied" the cold and hunger.
App ok , to take that state as example noooooo
I suppose my best defense for dictatorship would be that American democracy is already teetering on the edge of a right wing semi fascist dictatorship, and I’d prefer an America with liberal principles, therefor encouraging left wing anti-democratic rhetoric is more likely to have a liberal dictatorship with values I like rather than a right wing semi fascist dictatorship whose values I don’t like.
Obviously I would prefer a functional democracy, but republicans won’t let us have that, so we’re stuck fighting a different fight.
Followed you here from Tik Toc when I started seeing all the Red Note pro China stuff on Tic Tok I immediately thought of you and what your take would be on it. And yes Americans are gullible
So are people like you. Go to China to find out for yourself. It's inexpensive to travel there and it's transit visa-free for short travel now.
People in the US think we have the most freedoms in the world, when last I check we were 15th
And if you lumped those 15 countries ahead of the US together, their population wouldn't even amount to 1/3rd of America's. Many aren't even the size of a single large metroplex like NYC or LA.
I certainly won't mind the US learning policy from those 14 countries.
. . . and USA supports gen**cide in G*za!
@@DrHueyLi I guess the question is "Can their policies be applied to a country of 330+ million people of highly diverse nature?"
Many of those listed countries are more peaceful than the US simply because they have either much smaller populations, much less size, and less issues because of that, or that they are simply more homogeneous, and thus have less societal friction.
@@MM22966 What does population have to do with democracy? Nice pivot attempt, lol
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people's republic of china was a majority agrarian country until like the 1960s. In 1962 80% of people in the country were engaged in gruelling subsistence agriculture. Now that figure is like 24%. While stuff like meat consumption and other data points is obviously behind the USA I don't think it's unreasonable to regard the net improvement in quality of life curve from PRC to USA as being favourable.
obviously you wouldn't catch me trying to migrate from USA to China if I was a median income person but while millennials and so on are seeing home ownership increasingly out of their reach and their living standards decline I don't think it's unreasonable to look over at china and think 'wtf'
yes, chinese homeownership rate might be higher than us, but do you know why? because majority of young people rely on their parents to buy houses and cars, that's a cultural difference often overlooked when discussing this topic
1:09 China per capita protein consumption is higher than that of US, it is last year data. You can narrow it down to meat, but Chinese people consumes a lot soy.
Great post! I hope it shows up on TikTok itself in a few days.
At least look up to Singapore if you want to see how a "dictatorship" can work, especially for a then developing nation. But then again, it's just a city (-state).
True. I want to add that one advantage Singapore has is the free military protection by the US. So indirectly it's still a beneficiary of democracy. And Singapore does have free elections, except the formula is skewed toward the incumbent party.
@@DrHueyLi What kind of free military protection? Any evidence that you could show us or just talk? I could also claim I give USA free military protection and my bullshit is as good as yours.
I go to Whole Foods and there's ton of groceries. Does that mean they can afford groceries?
oh yeah!
I've been to china and what you see in red note is true.
Economic prosperity comes from economic liberty, strong rule of law (legal equality) and protection of property right.
All things that a strong leader opposes!
Somehow, it is possible to disregard the property right and make current owners sell their platform? How does it comply with legal equality?
@niu9432 It's amazing how personally offended morons were because the Supreme Court agreed overwhelmingly that a shitty weaponized social media platform was a national security risk.
@@niu9432It is probably the risk of an actual reduction in Liberty that allows for a forfeiture of legal equality. Just like how we don’t give prisoners the same rights as law-abiding citizens. Reducing their freedoms reduces the chance that they hurt other’s freedoms.
Oligarchy is the problem. Oligarch will say "economic liberty" but I define it, Rule of law but I write it, property right if it mine. How we clamp down oligarch without a strong leader?
@@tabinekoman If you’re talking about the western world more broadly we don’t live in an oligarchy, we generally live in a democratic corporatist system. But if you are worried about oligarchs you should be worried about Musk right now.
Secondly, even if we did live in an oligarchy you don’t advocate to trade oligarchy for a dictatorship lol.
But to be fair when youre at the point where you live in such an authoritarian corrupt system as an oligarchy its highly likely for one oligarch to come ontop eventually and purge his adversaries and absorb all power to himself.
I agree with your suggestion, people should go visit themselves. Like I did last year, granted that I did not visit the most rural places but the places that I visited, it pretty much like what RedNote shows. People on Rednote are just like you and me, regular people. Of course it is up to you, if you value free speech, as in you want to cuss out Xi Jinping for some reason, then don't go, and believe what you want.
where did you get your shirt lol
I wish these TikTok “Refugees” already knew what you know.
problem is your boy is a reactionary. They're a zionist. The only reason they're doing this is because they've been pushed to do so by the state department. They previously had no followers(because they had a failed comedy career) and got cut a deal to post pro-American propaganda and they took it.
You are in good conscience
Do you dispute the prices of groceries in the videos on Xiaohongshu?
Have you heard of the concept of purchasing power parity?
@ yes. By that measure the living expenses are still lower.
The fundamental lesson that life continues to showcase is that a lot of people are fundamentally gullible and dumb as hell. Which is a cause for great frustration tbh...
You've talked about it a bit in past videos but it would be nice to get a slighter in depth dive into Bo Xilai's "electoral campaign" and the threat it posed to Xi's accension to power. Most of the videos on YT are about the murder scandal (obviously) but Bo using his Chongqing model as a vehicle for the top job (and almost succeeding!) is a fascinating subject.
It's a little hard because no one knows who exactly had the final call regarding succession. There was a vote, but with only one candidate on the ballot. So the agreement had to be made in advance. But by whom and when? There's no public information.
What do you call a political party that dictates only their own policies and ignores the other half of the country? America has 2 such parties that swap out dictatorial rule every 4-8 years. You're warning about dictatorships, and not realizing that America is an oligarchy.
He's not gonna reply on that as he's only hating China for being China.
I've been to China - visited the countryside as well. People living in conditions that you would not believe. No sanitation, no elecricity, no nothing. Went to Russia as well. Same stuff (less extreme though).
The majority of Chinese citizen are living in the prosperous areas concentrated on the east coast. I could also argue that Detroit is severely impoverished and some neighborhoods have no electricity and everything is run down as well even skid row.
@@dennisliuxinlu Not comparable. We are talking about middle-ages living conditions, not "run-down" areas. Going to the well to fetch water, these types of things. Don't think anyone has lived like that in America since the nineteenth century.
Western media also told biased story about China. Lot people life there improved a lot in past 30 years. People can go there to see the reality. Like Facebook, instagram lot people show good part of their life, rednote is no exception. But cost of live there is shockingly low. Democracy also can be easily manipulated.
What did the western media say in your opinion? Because all we’ve been hearing about is their growing economy
@@bubonic285 "cost of live there is shockingly low", wait until you find out farmers and physical labor workers are shockingly poor and unprotected and basically treated worse than black people in segregated south africa
I think most people aren't interested in what form of government they live under, or macro-economic indicators. They care that things are OK inside their sphere of concern. Paying $10 or whatever for corn of the cob clearly signals things are not OK. But finding out that the bad people over there pay $1 for corn on the cob will blow minds.
But they don’t… and if they do, it’s because they make less than 10x the salary, making that corn on the cob more expensive. The point is, they aren’t living better.
@@cadenceew7933 I'm describing how the Tiktok refugees might be framing things. Not voicing agreement with how they think. I do nonetheless think its an open question as to who is 'living better'. The answer is probably more than a simple salary comparison.
@ That's why Huey Li brought up "purchasing power". In Macro Econ, this is known as PPP or Purchasing Power Parity. In simple terms, its your ability to buy things based off of your nominal income and the price of goods in your economy compared with someone else's income in their economy.
For example, an American might buy corn on the cob for $10. Lets say their monthly income is $1,000. However, a Chinese person buys their corn for $5, yet their income is $400 dollars. Who has the cheaper corn? The answer is that Americans have the cheaper corn. Why? Because it costs less of their income to purchase their corn. That is what is known as "Purchasing Power". In this example (and in real life!) American money goes further in an American economy than Chinese money in a Chinese economy.
Yes, this gets much more complex when we take global economies and trades into account. That being said, the general rule still applies; Americans have a higher PPP. Please come back if you have any more simple economic questions. Cheers.
@ Please pay attention - I will say it again I am not disputing this. I am making a wider point about 'living better' being more than income comparisons (that includes PP). Trends across areas like life expectancy, homicide rates, infant mortality rates also help build a picture. Hope that's a bit clearer for you now. Cheers.
@ I’m fairly certain that all of those stats are better in the US as well. PPP tends to have a decent association with those stats anyways.
I'm sick and tired of people trying to trade one evil/problematic system with another!
What's evil about China that you experienced?
Hi, Huey. Thank you for posting.
Okay, but now do Western corporate media. ;)
Im subscribed. Dr. Huey is hilarious and telling it like it is 😂
No, he has anti-China bias.
Damn thats crazy. I'm glad I subscribed to you.
People from TikTok immediately believing what they see on RedNote shows how people highly addicted to customized algorithm have lost their ability to do any fact checking or self research. Not surprised at all.
I have the opportunity to travel to both cities and the countryside. And having lived and seen much of the USA today. I would prefer the Chinese countryside any day. And believe me,cities are not my many attraction in any country i visit. Its not much,but 6 months at least gives one a picture of how people live in a country. So while your perspective of China as a dictatorship and USA as a democracy. Than i don't know how to tell you. I have visited people's home's and ordinary people's lives have greatly improved according to them.
I don't know when was the last time he visited China. Maybe his source of information is only from the MSM in the US.
The madness of off the stuff going on has people overly willing to believe anything at the moment… it ebbs and flows like the tides
I'm an ethnic Ukrainian and a Russophone who grew up in Latvia. What you describe sounds exactly like how most other Russophones in Latvia feel about our Eastern neighbour. And yet when I show them real people from Russia who have lived there their entire life and who tell them how life in Russia really is, they also choose to believe what they're being shown on Russian state media..
The actual standard of living of Chinese people is obviously not as good as the Little Red Book shows, but it is also not as bad as the Western media reports, depending on the target of the respective sample. With deflation on one side and inflation on the other, this divergence in sampling criteria is magnified.
The reason Chinese lower standard of living is because China has to fight Korean and Vietnam war while withstanding US sanction until 1980s. Americans has not right to judge China's position. Only PRC Chinese has the right
Which western media reports are you referring to?
I think this one is similar: Jon Stewart on Tucker Carlson’s Putin Interview & Trip to Russia | The Daily Show th-cam.com/video/oM2h3KnWAWY/w-d-xo.html
Why do you defend the right for Israel to self-determine when they're holding an entire population under a violent, genocidal apartheid, but your gripe here is an "authoritarian" government? This seem hypocritical.
Literally, you're exposing some small samples with your tendency against the whole picture. Theoretically, you have made a biased result; that's your mistake misguiding Americans like what western media have done all the years. Not to mention Red Note, but Chinese version of TikTok, namly Douyin, the largest online society of short videos, seldeom shows what you said. There're poor people living in very tough condition, I know. But they are quite a small social group and the government has been improving their lives persistently. I must point out your mistake because Americans have been cheated by such stances for quite a long time.
My answer to these tiktoks praising China has been: why do so many Chinese people want to immigrate to Canada and the US? Who wants to immigrate to China??
Because they were brainwashed by the "Public Intellectuals", who claimed that US and Europe is a perfect world to live -- you just didn't have to work and the government would give you money for your whole life.
In China, if you do not own a college degree and cannot show that you are a very capable person, then nobody will hire you!
I’ve been glued to the rednote-related content over the last couple of days. The wholesome, friendly exchanges were beautiful to watch, but seeing Americans having breakdowns over how much better Chinese citizens have it…I was skeptical. It definitely made me question my own ideas about what the standard of living was like in China, but the dictatorship is undeniable and the surveillance is unparalleled. I think the Americans that went to Rednote and made videos about how much better life is in China were biased by a sense of rebellion and voyeuristic curiosity.
Time to get off Red Note
I think you're grossly underestimating the degree of poverty in the US. There is a significant difference between the kind of poverty that comes from lack of development, and that which forces you to go hungry while surrounded by food. The unhappiness of Americans is not new, Trump himself is proof of that. Some might have had a similar reaction if they had suddenly moved to an app hosted in a Scandinavian country, many people outside the US have been telling Americans that they are not envied for decades, Europe is better in many ways. But not as many, as it is all the more startling to see this from an "adversary" and one whose system they have been told is worse.
"They've been told" by whom? The media is full of doomsaying of Europe and generous flattering of China. If anything, Red Note reinforces what they're told by TV and social media.
Also, do you really think poor people in China aren't "surrounded by food"? Almost every village has a Party Secretary with a BMW or something.
@@DrHueyLi Can you tell us which specific village people are starving in China?
@DrHueyLi Dude. Are you seriously saying that the 'media' portrays china favorably . Do you live under a rock?. I know this is your own mini anti-china propaganda project you've got going but at least when you lie make it make sense.
I find it incredibly funny when I see chinese looking people doing anti china propaganda . You're inviting hate on your own people. Hilarious!.
You tell'em brother you don't care , America was complaining about cost of living way before tiktok and red book ( note) you don't care if Americans are struggling.
As long as they don't know the good side of china. You only want to talk about the bad side. 😅😂😅
I’m glad I found you my brother on TH-cam❤
I didn't take red note's word for it. I googled China's median income, median rent, and typical cost of living expenses. By that metric they're doing way better than we are
@@BarriWords What's China's median income then?
I'm sure you'll try to move there then?
Top two Google results both say 3855 USD per month. I'm not moving there any time soon, I'm doing better than 60% of Americans. I have a union job with good benefits, like good health insurance. I can understand why someone not doing as well as me (like half the country) would be frustrated seeing the Chinese middle class doing well. But yeah of course medians are not the whole story
@@BarriWordsthat’s like top 1% income level.
@@BarriWords Are you sure that the number is really in USD and not RMB? Because then it would be much more realistic. The Chinese GDP estimate for 2024 is about 19T USD which is about 13 500 USD per capita while your alleged median income is about 46 000 USD/year. Can you see the problem with your number here?
I always find it funny that so many of these podcasts are about personal freedoms when Professor Li is broadcasting from (I presume) California, one of the biggest nanny-states in the Union.
As an example, he makes a snarky remark about gun-ownership/control, something near and dear to the hearts of many coastie leftists...but in the next breath he talks about how China's government is an overbearing dictatorship on its people, and never connects the two. If more people in China had guns in their hands, maybe their government would be less likely to push them around. That is why it's the second law of our country after freedom of speech.
That being said, I find insights into how China lives on the ground invaluable. Please keep it up!
LOL You guys have right to own a gun and You are still being pushed around economically. Somehow guns don't help You much.
Not a prof and I'm in currently in Florida. I don't find gun ownership highly correlated with freedom. Yemen has more guns per capita. Japan has none.
@@DrHueyLi Ah, apologies for my assumptions, then.
You are right that gun ownership does not correlate with peacefulness, and those are two good examples. Some nations are simply less civilized than others, and more guns do not make them better. However, NOT having guns among the populace removes all realistic options for fighting against tyranny.
You mentioned the attempted coup in South Korea. Those were brave people that showed up, but if the SOLDIERS had decided their orders were more important, nothing would have stopped them from simply shooting enough unarmed people to make them go away. Tienanmen Square is also something I know you would be familiar with as an example of this.
this is part of 1.6 billion ，and that climb kids no need climb anymore ，cause government build a elevator
banana people
这是有多讨厌中国😂