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6:30 notice how they actually call the Ebons the “pleasing” ones in contrast to the Celtics? A lot of people don’t realize that the Irish in NYC were treated worse than the freed blacks at this time.
I think they may only be temporary to find more permanent marks, such as marbled plaques. Those plastic signs aren't as high price as nyc would prefer, I'm sure.
I think the temporary status is just until they can decide on what should be done, maybe a statue, maybe a museum, maybe a bronze plaque, maybe something else.
The real deep history of manhattan island are native Americans. The Native Americans that inhabited manhattan island were Lenape people. They called manhattan island manahatta, which meant hilly island.
It’s amazing how many stories like this exist and simply get buried because it would mean acknowledging that history is more complex and messed up than we were taught in school. And by amazing I mean sad and unfortunate.
just like the modern society, the world back then was just as terrible. Somebody would come around and ruin hundreds of peoples lives simply because they have more money. But back then there was no internet to expose wealthy people like that. The world has failed the people of Seneca Village, and many other integrated middle class neighborhoods by forgetting the true stories.
One small example. I believe in America people are told they won world war 2. Over here in Europe atleast in the Netherlands the allied forces did. Not to mention the russian ransacking off Berlin.
" It's not just Black American History, it's American History." Wonderful closing remark by Cynthia Copeland! Thank you for that - Had Irish ancestors there. There's a LOT to be learned just from this one story - among hundreds just like it.
My sentiments exactly. Great closing statement. Everything in this country is "American" history. The good, bad and indifferent. Own it and move forward wiser.
@@inthegarage342 I wish we can move forward but the race-baiters are hindering that. 🤦🏽♂️ I'm Black and they are ruining the fabric of the nation by constantly rehashing the past or blaming every contemporary problem on it.
@@hus390 Your right.. It starts with me and with you. This is our America and we have to let go of it before they can take it. All colors and backgrounds are gonna have to communicate. Even if its agreeing to disagree. If something doesn't change pretty quik, America as we knew it will be a thing of the past. It sounds like you've done your homework. Stand strong on what you know my friend.
@@hus390 people keep rehashing the past because alot of the past has been covered up or rewriten to suit a certain agenda. Also the past doesn't exist in a vaccum the past affects the present the same way the present affects the future. If the US wasn't so adamant on miseducating people and hiding things in people wouldn't get so mad and frustrated about having to relearn and clarify things. You need to clear and clean out the closest before putting new things in.
James Angius not really, i was taught in my southern states that slavery barely happened and that was about a decade ago, maybe you had a different experience.
There’s actually a lot more African American history like this in NYC. They just discovered a park in the Bronx, was actually a burial for slaves. Then, there’s Weeksville in Brooklyn a free black neighborhood in Crown Heights people forgot about. A discovered cemetery in East New York. An old town in Staten Island.... And much more.
I mean they have pictures... you can clearly see the buildings were not middle class compared to the rest of ny at the time especially... those expensive items were most likely stolen from rich new Yorkers.... just as now if u opened up a section 8 apartments in nyc you would probably find gold chains and jewelry, expensive jordans, Gucci, and cash... doesn't mean they are middle class...
@@amateur_football9751 Would you say the same thing about slavery with that logic, as they obviously explained why poor whites and blacks were put under pressure to migrate to the underdeveloped side of the city. The newspaper literally called it "N***** Village". Obsessing over the mention of a fact is actually what's going on here, and I find it suspicious. Let's do better
@@amateur_football9751America has a history of teaching Black people didn't have neighbors or thriving cities...so mentioning the race of people is very important if we are going to teach true history.
These people had PRIME real estate that could have shaped the lives of generations to come for the rest of theirs and their children's children's lives. I wonder how many of these descendants are incarcerated in New York? That would be an interesting find as well.
Exactly. As soon as there was progress seen and betterment being had, here come the elite with the smack down. It’s the same old cycle. As soon as people start doing better, the elite muscle to stifle it all...
Also integrated marriages in 1820!!!!!! Can you IMAGINE what that would have accomplished if it had been allowed to carry on BACK THEN???? Omg this video legit made me tear up....progress just SQUASHED.
Just when I thought my mom (Cynthia) couldn’t get any cooler, my boyfriend stumbles across this video. So proud of this incredible woman. Love you CC!!! 🥰🥰
Yuki James the problem is black people are Not immigrants. Well at some point they were like All of us but I think he means immigrants as in the ones who jump the border to work on construction sites and slowly build their lives until they can settle
@@yukijames1321 You mean the ones who are wealthy enough to come over here with seed capital? Or did you mean 60 years ago when someone could still thrive working for a factory or shop?
Thank you for educating me today on something that I wouldn't have ever guessed. I'd wondered how Central Park once looked and how it had been developed. I am so saddened that the original occupants were not ADEQUATELY compensated, or even compensated at all. Those brave pioneers should of had houses given to them, ideally surrounding the park, so they too had something to hand down to their descendants.
@@terencelee7761 Terence, I hear you. It's so sad (understatement). I have (we all have) free healthcare here in Australia. We have pretty much, zero guns. (I saw one once on my friend's farm.) I waited nine years for my rent controlled one bedroom (with a study area) apartment (with free water and two verandahs aka 'balconies'). It was a long wait, especially when I officially became too ill to work anymore. But I got it. It's mine for life. My neighbour is a First Nation's Indigenous Australian. But I think out of the white people here, he might be one of two dark skinned people here. He came straight from jail. What I'm saying is, I think maybe, the only reason I survived lots of my adventures is because I am white, and most importantly, I was not ashamed to use services available to people that struggle. Indigenous Australians don't like asking for help and waiting. It feels "embarrassing and gives me shame" apparently. Which is also sad. His people were here first. He shouldn't feel bad to get good things offered from our government. I wish America would hurry up and adopt (and expand intelligently) the free healthcare/welfare system that our colonial countries use. (Think Canada, the entire United Kingdom, New Zealand etc). The stress taken from life because of these back-up systems can't be empathized enough.
Back then, I don't think they paid them a recompense for their land. Those were hard times and you had to either accept it or face consequences. Thats the difference between Americans and Canadians.
@@billyanderson3372 Those who owned property were compensated for the land. The city carried out a tax assessment that placed the value of a plot at $700 (about $20 600 in today's dollars) so that was what they were paid. One of the saddest part of this whole land grab is that no record exists of where these residents went so there could be thousands of people who know nothing of their heritage.
@@johnsot8 Yes, just because. Because it's part of the parks history as well. I seen a comment that they are still there, but my question is.. Why not?
If you’re interested in more stories like this, look up Bruce’s Beach in Manhattan beach, CA. It’s infuriating how the dark past of a lot of our local cities is becoming public.
Philip Eng in my school they talked about Chinese exclusion act and a bit of the Spanish flu. But never did we speak about the migration of slaves in New York and what they did for work after being slaves.
Forgetting about the atrocities your country has done because “it was so long ago” does nothing. We live with the ramifications of the people before us. I am sorry for Seneca Village
I know it’s a park, but they could reconstruct a small segment of the village as an exhibit for people to walk around and explore physically, similar to Hanok villages you see in Korea. These are integral parts of American history
I wholeheartedly agree however that would mean America has to truly start admitting the atrocities it has bestowed upon everyone else that did not fit the mold.
in the Dutch City of Arnhem we've got an Open Air museum that's basically a walk through history of the region, would indeed be a great way to show and acknowledge things, though I Doubt it'd happen seeing how long America has been kicking the ball forward, Today we're still seeing issues from the 50's and 60's being unresolved and still being relevant sadly
This is a fantastic idea, a powerful teaching tool. I’m glad it’s mentioned that this isn’t a one off. I attended an event in Washington DC where they acknowledged stolen African-American land turned into a park, Lafayette-Pointer Park. Dependents of the families attended, it was a powerful and moving event. A small gesture, but hopefully it will start encouraging more cities to acknowledge and teach the history of destroying and displacing African-American communities.
@@Ana-lf9qm no... American History, as it's supposed to be the same sodding thing, even if y'all over there don't seem to agree upon it on both sides of the debate, Irish-American, African-American, Italian-American and all the other cultures of immigrants and Native Americans all their history is part of the American History that shaped up to what it is today, a very dark history that should be owned up to and be remembered so you can do better
This makes me even more proud of my people. But breaks my heart. We’re called degenerates and lazy. But when we have our own things, the world continually takes them away. Jealousy. Hatred.
@@slayin9331 It’s clear that you’re simply racist. Even if you’re trying to troll you’re still a racist. And idk what response you were hoping for, but we’re just going to ignore you from now on.
Eminent domain is a compensated taking of property to benefit the whole. Are you objecting to that? Should, for instance, no more highways be built? Those residents were compensated for their property. The class or social status of the residents was irrelevant. In Seattle, million dollar properties are being removed to accommodate public works.
@@HistorywithMrMink History creates otherwise peaceful individuals to become vengeful. Racism is a pendulum that swings back and forth. If America gets peace from this racism pandemic it is going through, you will see the resentment grow and power change. Will the African-Americans be lenient on the European-Americans? I think not. Thier pride is too much. There will never be peace in America, unfortunately. That is not my opinion. That is just what history suggests will happen.
I. Matamoros google / Wikipedia actually tells you what happened, including their compensation, the impact on local businesses, & a breakdown of land owners / renters etc. I literally googled your question & found some great sources. Well worth researching & reading if you’re willing to invest a bit of time. :)
The older I get, the more I realize how much history I need to learn. Bittersweet to learn about this, as Central Park is one of my favorite places in the city.
The rich elite... No properties of theirs has ever been moved or destroyed due to developments. If so, they have been compensated ten times over... “It’s a small club and we ain’t in it” - George Carlin
Actually, the rich elite of Cleveland on Millionaires Row were forced out because the city wanted to commercialize the area. Historic mansions were torn down and now the entire area looks mostly abandoned 🙄 It does happen, not often but it does.
@@coreenaburke5775 Are you gonna ignore the fact the tribes would fight and murder each other for land? Or are whote people the bad guys for somoene thats has happened in every race in literally every point in history
I'm a proud native New Yawka! born and raised in Queens N.Y.! I don't understand why I have never heard of Seneca Village. It's history that definitely deserves to be remembered. 👍
I had read they had to clear out squatters living in a swamp to make the park. I thought that was mean enough. It struck me as odd that land so close to the city would have been ignored that long. Kudos for digging up the truth, literally.
I’m an Irish person and I never heard this before. Those poor people who finally got a chance to have something of their own to have it taken from them. All there hopes and dreams that they worked so hard for just gone 😥
Dubby you said it pefectly. White people did the same thing to "the black wall street, " Rosewood and many other thriving black communities. I dont know why black people even bother with this racist country that has never respected them.
Imagine if African Americans continued holding those properties; how much wealth did they lose over the centuries? Tens of billions, including interest.
I have an ancestor that was pivotal in the creation, well, more the funding, of Central Park. I have always been proud of that fact. Now I just feel sick to my stomach...I had no idea... Thank you for this video.
@@TheArtkaw Sugar doesn't harm you, fluoride does. People eat lots of fruits in warm climates but don't have teeth problems because they are not poisoned by drugs, fluoridated water, toothpastes.
Be they know the power we’ll have. Anything a black person does becomes a trend, now add money to that? America would literally shut down if every black person had generational wealth.
I never liked that way of separating history. Black Americans are Americans. They are not apart of the United States. To segregate history and black history is to do just that, segregate.
The whole of new york has neighbourhoods that existed before which have been demolished. Most of them are buried under skyscrapers and apartment blocks
How is it that settlements are buldozzed *just like that* without compensating the household with the value of the property or a similarly valued property in a new vacancy? This is literally robbery of people's value!
The problem isn't with compensation on eminent domain. The problem is what the women says near the end, owning land and passing it down is how people build generational wealth. Getting 1820 market value does nothing for the black Descendents of Seneca village.
This happened in St Louis too. Where the arch currently stands there apparently was a thriving black neighborhood until the late fifties and early sixties when it was repossessed to build the arch.
I love to hear about these black communities that we never learn about because of the atrocities committed. Im sure there are tons of history waiting to be unearthed
@@JK-gu3tl we have every reason to not believe in capitalism. yeah our government is bad and corrupt and destroying the country but we have libraries full of evidence that unchecked capitalism is not only bad for a country but deadly. And before you act like being anti-free market is pro- communism, no.
@@JK-gu3tl only made everything worse for everyone but the very rich every time it's been tried before. Its completely illogical to think it would work now. So no.
I would but too many movie projects for now and I do sci-fi not historical movies, plus it has to be someone quite known and active from the community to make this a percutant coup. Or just a good movie would do it, though.
@@ixon4330 history has purposely been tainted to hide the elites filthy movements, the world is built on a lot of skeletons and all is about to be outed!
When I was in my 20s I worked as an elderly care worker. There was an elderly gentleman who saw that I was a POC and he talked about all the POC he had lived around and heard their stories. He then said to me "what have we white men touched that we have not destroyed." I still remember him to this day.
As an English woman I never even knew this part of New York’s history! Thank you for uploading this to educate more people like myself. I shall definitely be telling people I know about Seneca Village.
When people speak of systemic racism, this is what they are talking about. This a prime example of how communities not deemed white are disenfranchised for generations.
They don’t care about us...documentaries are becoming more informative than what they teach in school. next time I walk through Central Park, I will give praise
This sort of thing happens in cities constantly and has happened for millennia. It's awful for the people and the area, but in the grand scheme of urbanism - worthless
Sebaschan 706 it’s important in the same way thanks giving is important for Americans, it’s just a tragic historic event that was induced by ignorance xenophobia, racism and the upper class greed for expanding land and business
Another Missing Chapter almost gone in Northern Arizona: the Dineh (Navajo) of Black Mesa. This is happening right now, there is still time to help us save our homelands! please
@@mind4lease554 Nope a German growing up in Kaliningrad doesn't call it their homeland as it hasnt belong to them for 80 years and now its mainly Russian.
That’s why they want children to continue to go to school. They can brainwash and force feed them the information that suits them best to keep people behaving in the manner they want. Knowing only few will go out and do the additional research themselves. Guess they didn’t count on information technology (YT) to actually pass on real information and make people question what is or ISN’T being taught at school.
@ is a rethoric figure to show the incongruence of the fundamental values of America. They say their country is based on the fundamental respect to property right, but at the same time they have no concern on violate them when they are from non-hegemonic population.
@ Information can't be more structurally consistent and understandable. If your state supports mentally challenged with money, I recommended you not to miss opportunity.
Thank you for this. We have lots we could learn from our ancestors and this shows that racism doesn’t have to be something that is taught. But being taught peace, acceptance and an alliance through similar hatred of those who were pushing them out!
d teachout not blaming the wealth, blaming the power hungry manipulations of people who think they are superior to us and want to control us like cattle. Keeping us divided and against each keeps them in power.
Let me put it this way... humans are never equal in influence or power, so your argument that some ppl have more power causes the problem is wrong. Humanity itself is the problem
d teachout ok, when people with power manipulate they have already decided we don’t matter. Will there still be elements of racism , sure but left alone to deal with their own day to day survival most people will look beyond that but when the manipulations of the powerful who seek control are injected to cause division for their agenda, more wealth, more power, more control then the level of discord and bigotry will increase because it is the agenda of those who know United we stand divided we fall. It’s a lot more complex then just power or money but it is generated by those who have wealth and power. Those two things are never satisfied.
@@gabri_maybe Central Seneca Park often implies there's a Side (Like Left, Right, Upper, etc.) Seneca Park, so Seneca Central Park made more sense, as it implies " the Seneca sides of Central Park ".
History is amazing. I thank archeologists because they pull the forgotten truth of the past. She is also correct in saying that it's not African-American history, it's just American history ♡ This needs to be taught♡
Anyone who watched Ken Burns documentary on NYC in the 90's would have know about this and other neighborhoods destroyed by this park. The park has a fascinating history. Even the landscape architectural design deliberately separated different classes of people. It's unfortunate the NYC did this again under the unqualified eye of Robert Moses in the 1960's and 70's.
b9y Not exactly. The truth is that the area the park went was pretty much woods, other than this village and a few ancient Dutch farmsteads. The city claimed eminent domain to construct the park. A previous park had been planned around 1810 but never actually constructed. Shame Seneca village had to go, but that’s progress for you.
it depends on what she meant by developed. She might have been talking about the development of large buildings and banks and trains. Did you pay attention in 5th grade or did you look out of the window.
Terence Johnson Developed means just that. Irrespective as to what has been developed there. He clearly stated that the teacher said the LAND had not been developed upon in the HISTORY of the US. That would in fact indeed be a lie. The land was developed for housing and then designed, repurposed and redeveloped for the creation of Central Park.
@nesrules 8bit If you watched the video, your question was answered. Seneca Village was worse than a black middle class community: it was a thriving INTEGRATED community where blacks, Irish and Germans lived together, went to High School together (when most New Yorkers didn't) and INTERMARRIED.
They go through poor neighbourhoods its common sense. Baffling how Americans still havent figured out its not coloured people that are at a disadvantage, its poor people.
This was a wonderful educational video. I had no clue. Me and my family was just in New York and Central Park was by far one of my favorite places. I had no clue. Thank you 🙏🏼
The city voted on a winning design and everyone knew the design would be the difference between the city being successful or menial city. Good choice for present and future of the city.
Gentrification usually refers to higher-priced real estate popping up in areas that use to be cheap land, cheap housing. This is a bit different: they destroyed all the housing, the entire community...to build green space. While Central Park might be beloved by New Yorkers today, it was at the expense of many vulnerable, voiceless inhabitants of that city.
@donthavetime4that please do more research on what gentrification is, the people in gentrified areas are not "forced" out they simply could not afford to pay rent at market value. Some places that are gentrified still maintains it's original residence because they owned the properties, example would be that gentrified areas in and around chinatowns are still mostly inhabited by Asians even though the area is gentrified because they can pay market value rent or they owned the property.
@@fizzyboy08 dude if I've been paying taxes on a property thats appraised at 50000. Then in a year or two its appraised for 150000. It's hard to pay the property tax for alot of people..
The last comment is perfect “it’s a park of American history “ it’s good that we don’t categorize who’s history it is and just call it American History
Most likely just temporary until they figure out what to make for a permanent exhibition. Maybe a statue or little museum. Trust me they'll make something.
You're being conditioned to think this. Your comment alone should be enough to make you ask questions. Many times, like this instance, it isn't about the color of a person's skin but the size of their bank accounts.
Absolutely. Instead of hiding the artifacts in some basement there should be a Seneca Village Museum on the site that Seneca Village originally occupied open to the public and free.
Sad this still happens today. Look what happened in Brooklyn to build a sporting stadium so many people where forced out. Hey but the Nets have a place to bounce a ball and play a game.
GBigs Angle native Americans and Polish people may disagree with that, genocides happen BECAUSE they invite foreigners in their lands.... the indigenous are very anti immigrant and so were Europe post ww2, then they were invaded. Cultures are forced to move out or ethnic cleansed by both Americans and Soviets... victors write the history.
SQUIDYXDD did they explain that ALL property owners were compensated. Perhaps the focus was on the fact that Seneca village was far less than 1% of Central Park area and that the African American community was the least impacted. In todays victimhood mindset......... not a chance
Black wall street was also burned to the ground, redlining was a thing, and NAFTA shipped jobs out of places like Detroit and Chicago turning lots of black communities into ghettos. However, believing black people are poor because of bad choices and laziness helps me sleep at night.
And that's capitalism for middle American whites. If you're poor it's 100% due to your own decision making and not to the circumstances surrounding where your from. They use decision making as a scape goat for the faults of capitalism.
I hope this gets more people thinking about how many communities around America were taken and used for pleasure. I’d like to add that the park was absolutely essential to the mental health of New Yorkers. It was so dense with people stacked on top of one another packed into little apartments. all and all, what an amazing story and I’m glad we have been gifted with this information
I hope that is a collective "we." Just when I feel good, something happens...brake bones, heart issues, etc. That finish line is blurred by cataracts and bad vision, too.
OneThicChihuahua yeah but no. The inhabitants of Manhattan were Delaware Indians (Lenape). Seneca ironically were Iroquois with whom Delawares were often at war with.
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Hey, Vox. A quick question. Why did you omit the part about the villigers having been compensated for their land?
Where did they go?
please talk about rondo in the twin cities!!!!!
6:30 notice how they actually call the Ebons the “pleasing” ones in contrast to the Celtics? A lot of people don’t realize that the Irish in NYC were treated worse than the freed blacks at this time.
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I don’t think the info panels put in the park should be temporary, they should stay there forever, it’s the history of that land
I think they may only be temporary to find more permanent marks, such as marbled plaques. Those plastic signs aren't as high price as nyc would prefer, I'm sure.
I agree
I think the temporary status is just until they can decide on what should be done, maybe a statue, maybe a museum, maybe a bronze plaque, maybe something else.
I agree!
New Yorc Kity's Homeless Elite are going to use them, as Pillows and/or a source of elite heat, which cannot be bettered, temporarily, at least.
The real deep history of manhattan island are native Americans. The Native Americans that inhabited manhattan island were Lenape people. They called manhattan island manahatta, which meant hilly island.
Someone has to say that!! Yes.
Thanks for including this info
I didn’t know that ty for educating me!
Did they disappeared? Is there any present day famous person who has Lenape heritage?
@@UCoD9LkcndQRjc17Dn1lNUcA They are trying to change this history and now call thee Indigenous Americans ARE NOT AFRICANS.
It’s amazing how many stories like this exist and simply get buried because it would mean acknowledging that history is more complex and messed up than we were taught in school. And by amazing I mean sad and unfortunate.
just like the modern society, the world back then was just as terrible. Somebody would come around and ruin hundreds of peoples lives simply because they have more money. But back then there was no internet to expose wealthy people like that. The world has failed the people of Seneca Village, and many other integrated middle class neighborhoods by forgetting the true stories.
No one wants to recognize that racism is an universal problem. It’s easier to blame the confederacy.
One small example. I believe in America people are told they won world war 2. Over here in Europe atleast in the Netherlands the allied forces did. Not to mention the russian ransacking off Berlin.
They did the same with highways
@@BrandonP43 yeah imagine how easy to get away from mass murder back in old days, hmm.
" It's not just Black American History, it's American History." Wonderful closing remark by Cynthia Copeland! Thank you for that - Had Irish ancestors there. There's a LOT to be learned just from this one story - among hundreds just like it.
AMRICAN HISTORY X
Good movie 🎥👌
My sentiments exactly. Great closing statement. Everything in this country is "American" history. The good, bad and indifferent. Own it and move forward wiser.
@@inthegarage342 I wish we can move forward but the race-baiters are hindering that. 🤦🏽♂️ I'm Black and they are ruining the fabric of the nation by constantly rehashing the past or blaming every contemporary problem on it.
@@hus390 Your right.. It starts with me and with you. This is our America and we have to let go of it before they can take it. All colors and backgrounds are gonna have to communicate. Even if its agreeing to disagree. If something doesn't change pretty quik, America as we knew it will be a thing of the past. It sounds like you've done your homework. Stand strong on what you know my friend.
@@hus390 people keep rehashing the past because alot of the past has been covered up or rewriten to suit a certain agenda. Also the past doesn't exist in a vaccum the past affects the present the same way the present affects the future. If the US wasn't so adamant on miseducating people and hiding things in people wouldn't get so mad and frustrated about having to relearn and clarify things.
You need to clear and clean out the closest before putting new things in.
I thought there was literally a underground village based off the title lol
Lol
Same
Same cause I saw a video about the current village under Las Vegas by vice lol
Same 😂 but satisfyingly found the actual story more interesting.
Yeah. I'm unhappy with the video.
The fact we had to learn this through archeology is extremely disheartening.
James Angius history is written by the winners, why you shouldn’t trust what’s taught in school
@@onceformallyknown And of course this video must be true because it is on the internet, right?
@@onceformallyknown you're wrong.
James Angius not really, i was taught in my southern states that slavery barely happened and that was about a decade ago, maybe you had a different experience.
coop I’m in high school in Tennessee and we are taught that slavery was a huge deal and there was a lot of tension over it in the 19th century.
There’s actually a lot more African American history like this in NYC. They just discovered a park in the Bronx, was actually a burial for slaves. Then, there’s Weeksville in Brooklyn a free black neighborhood in Crown Heights people forgot about. A discovered cemetery in East New York. An old town in Staten Island.... And much more.
i live about 2 blocks from the East NY cemetery. I had to work, but my grandmother went to the dedication ceremony
nm4113 I would’ve loved to go to that! I went to Thomas Jefferson. They never talked about it. I was walking with a friend when we discovered it.
I want to know more.
Sarah bearah You can! The thing about it is, you gotta take the time to research it yourself. A lot of things like this is kept hidden.
The whole country is build on the graves of the native indians. .
I’m so thankful we have people like those two women who devote their time to finding out about our past like that.
I mean they have pictures... you can clearly see the buildings were not middle class compared to the rest of ny at the time especially... those expensive items were most likely stolen from rich new Yorkers.... just as now if u opened up a section 8 apartments in nyc you would probably find gold chains and jewelry, expensive jordans, Gucci, and cash... doesn't mean they are middle class...
Seems to me they put too much emphasis on the raze of the people who lived there, its simply unimportant
@@amateur_football9751
Would you say the same thing about slavery with that logic, as they obviously explained why poor whites and blacks were put under pressure to migrate to the underdeveloped side of the city. The newspaper literally called it "N***** Village". Obsessing over the mention of a fact is actually what's going on here, and I find it suspicious. Let's do better
@@amateur_football9751America has a history of teaching Black people didn't have neighbors or thriving cities...so mentioning the race of people is very important if we are going to teach true history.
She said it the way it should be said, “ it’s not just African American history, it’s American history.”
Yea but most people wouldn't talk like she does especially alot in the majority
Well duh
@@catedoge4998 who u saying duh too
M3CA Hakiri the op
Cate Doge ok
These people had PRIME real estate that could have shaped the lives of generations to come for the rest of theirs and their children's children's lives. I wonder how many of these descendants are incarcerated in New York? That would be an interesting find as well.
Exactly. As soon as there was progress seen and betterment being had, here come the elite with the smack down. It’s the same old cycle. As soon as people start doing better, the elite muscle to stifle it all...
Also integrated marriages in 1820!!!!!! Can you IMAGINE what that would have accomplished if it had been allowed to carry on BACK THEN???? Omg this video legit made me tear up....progress just SQUASHED.
I was just aking the same, what happened to those people. I want to know.
Direct reparations are owed
The Coi : Eminent domain
It's a shame that something that brings joy to millions of New Yorkers and Tourists has such a sad and dark history.
ThatKindaGuy Travel I see what you did there because it was a black town “dark history”
@@crispybaguette8670 I dont think they were going for that 😬
@@jamesultron854 Yeah I think so...
The whole world is a sad and dark history if you look far and deep enough.
You mean all of Amerikkka, This is just one story of thousands.
Just when I thought my mom (Cynthia) couldn’t get any cooler, my boyfriend stumbles across this video. So proud of this incredible woman. Love you CC!!! 🥰🥰
Wow, imagine how many POC families would be in the upper class by now if their properties weren’t demolished.
@@yukijames1321 African Americans are not immigrant families subsidized by the government to succeed and "do well".
Good point.
About the same as today!
Yuki James the problem is black people are
Not immigrants. Well at some point they were like
All of us but I think he means immigrants as in the ones who jump the border to work on construction sites and slowly build their lives until they can settle
@@yukijames1321 You mean the ones who are wealthy enough to come over here with seed capital? Or did you mean 60 years ago when someone could still thrive working for a factory or shop?
working class community: exists
the elites: *it’s free real estate*
Literally
not your mum well they actually payed them about 18 times what the lots were going for before the park
Well, yeah, because the property was worth a lot more now.
The Trumps
J. A. E. Which they probably wrote off in Taxes or just found a loop hole to get out of paying them all together.
Thanks Vox for putting this out! This is really a "missing chapter".
no probem!
@@billyanderson3372 Why are you responding on behalf of Vox? It's not like you contributed to the making of the video in any way
@@smith2354 To be fair, why not?
let face it.. you don't really owned a american land... just temporary ownership.....
They should have mentioned the Seneca tribe.
Thank you for educating me today on something that I wouldn't have ever guessed. I'd wondered how Central Park once looked and how it had been developed. I am so saddened that the original occupants were not ADEQUATELY compensated, or even compensated at all. Those brave pioneers should of had houses given to them, ideally surrounding the park, so they too had something to hand down to their descendants.
housing in the form of projects and penitentiaries along with "the war on drugs" was the compensation for the indigenous or african American.
@@terencelee7761 Terence, I hear you. It's so sad (understatement). I have (we all have) free healthcare here in Australia. We have pretty much, zero guns. (I saw one once on my friend's farm.) I waited nine years for my rent controlled one bedroom (with a study area) apartment (with free water and two verandahs aka 'balconies'). It was a long wait, especially when I officially became too ill to work anymore. But I got it. It's mine for life. My neighbour is a First Nation's Indigenous Australian. But I think out of the white people here, he might be one of two dark skinned people here. He came straight from jail. What I'm saying is, I think maybe, the only reason I survived lots of my adventures is because I am white, and most importantly, I was not ashamed to use services available to people that struggle. Indigenous Australians don't like asking for help and waiting. It feels "embarrassing and gives me shame" apparently. Which is also sad. His people were here first. He shouldn't feel bad to get good things offered from our government. I wish America would hurry up and adopt (and expand intelligently) the free healthcare/welfare system that our colonial countries use. (Think Canada, the entire United Kingdom, New Zealand etc). The stress taken from life because of these back-up systems can't be empathized enough.
The residents of Seneca Village were compensated, but not fairly.
@@melissanoyb I hear you. I'm Canadian myself and I found that trying to sell this idea to Americans is quite challenging to say the least.
@melissanoyb Very correct, I'm in Canada and the horror stories I hear about US Healthcare is very tragic!
History that’s not being taught in schools🤷🏻♂️
Of course not, all the indoctrinated history in government school institutions is falsified on purpose.
Too specific, I wouldn’t of cared in high school. Take these courses in college. That’s what it’s there for right?
S C racist
Marcos Garcia i would care
S C im interested. ww1 and 2 are all over the place this is way less talked abt thats why
As a Canadian, this reminds me of 'Africville' in Nova Scotia, a community similarly destroyed. Was this community at least paid for their land?
Back then, I don't think they paid them a recompense for their land. Those were hard times and you had to either accept it or face consequences. Thats the difference between Americans and Canadians.
XNDR342 yeah the city built a housing complex for them but it wasn’t the same community and many had trouble adapting.
They were compensated
@@Kiwibirdman1701 Many people are asking why they destroyed their land, well if you think about it they placed a park instead of offices.
@@billyanderson3372 Those who owned property were compensated for the land. The city carried out a tax assessment that placed the value of a plot at $700 (about $20 600 in today's dollars) so that was what they were paid. One of the saddest part of this whole land grab is that no record exists of where these residents went so there could be thousands of people who know nothing of their heritage.
The exhibitions on Seneca Village should be there PERMANENTLY
My sentiments exactly
Why? Just because?
@@TheRockinDonkey Why just because?
@@johnsot8 Yes, just because. Because it's part of the parks history as well. I seen a comment that they are still there, but my question is.. Why not?
@@johnsot8 As Jesse said, it's a part of the park's history, one that people would like to gloss over and whitewash. Why shouldn't they be permanent?
If you’re interested in more stories like this, look up Bruce’s Beach in Manhattan beach, CA. It’s infuriating how the dark past of a lot of our local cities is becoming public.
The family got the beach back 🥰
@@ladarrellmurchison6574 just saw that. That’s amazing
I wonder why they never taught us this or even talked about this in school. This was informative.
Because rich whites are still doing it and denying it. "The winners write hisory"
@@nothanks8305 unfortunately, you’re right, that’s why we have activism to teach us.
It’s not that important and we should learn more important things in class like the affects of the Chinese exclusion act or the Spanish flu that
Philip Eng in my school they talked about Chinese exclusion act and a bit of the Spanish flu. But never did we speak about the migration of slaves in New York and what they did for work after being slaves.
America tell us what we wanna hear & hide their black past.
Forgetting about the atrocities your country has done because “it was so long ago” does nothing. We live with the ramifications of the people before us. I am sorry for Seneca Village
Big Swings This was not an atrocity. Stop being hyperbolic.
Seneca Village was a dump
@@DrLaurelWeaver so you were there?
Yes being sorry makes all the difference
@@blanco7726 no understanding and acknowledging the past is what matters no one cares if youre sorry
I know it’s a park, but they could reconstruct a small segment of the village as an exhibit for people to walk around and explore physically, similar to Hanok villages you see in Korea. These are integral parts of American history
I wholeheartedly agree however that would mean America has to truly start admitting the atrocities it has bestowed upon everyone else that did not fit the mold.
in the Dutch City of Arnhem we've got an Open Air museum that's basically a walk through history of the region, would indeed be a great way to show and acknowledge things, though I Doubt it'd happen seeing how long America has been kicking the ball forward, Today we're still seeing issues from the 50's and 60's being unresolved and still being relevant sadly
This is a fantastic idea, a powerful teaching tool. I’m glad it’s mentioned that this isn’t a one off. I attended an event in Washington DC where they acknowledged stolen African-American land turned into a park, Lafayette-Pointer Park. Dependents of the families attended, it was a powerful and moving event. A small gesture, but hopefully it will start encouraging more cities to acknowledge and teach the history of destroying and displacing African-American communities.
*African American history
@@Ana-lf9qm no... American History, as it's supposed to be the same sodding thing, even if y'all over there don't seem to agree upon it on both sides of the debate,
Irish-American, African-American, Italian-American and all the other cultures of immigrants and Native Americans all their history is part of the American History that shaped up to what it is today, a very dark history that should be owned up to and be remembered so you can do better
This makes me even more proud of my people. But breaks my heart. We’re called degenerates and lazy. But when we have our own things, the world continually takes them away. Jealousy. Hatred.
They don't want US to have nice things cause it would ruin THEIR characterization.
@@jesseredic I don't think you understand how CORRECT you are.
It ain't jealousy. Nowadays its hatred for killing people including their on race.
Yall wouldn't be called lazy if yall actually stopped teaching the young kids to steal. 🤷🏽♀️
@@slayin9331 It’s clear that you’re simply racist. Even if you’re trying to troll you’re still a racist. And idk what response you were hoping for, but we’re just going to ignore you from now on.
typical America: when things start to get right something magically appears and stops that
Clayton Krichinak people with money stop it 😔 every time
That’s literally everywhere now which is so unfortunate.
@@adamd6648 something=GOVERNMENT
capt rodgers yea....
Yea black wall street
History isn’t perfect it’s important we don’t sugar coat it
I agree completely! It's not always pretty, but the truth needs to be told.
Eminent domain is a compensated taking of property to benefit the whole. Are you objecting to that? Should, for instance, no more highways be built? Those residents were compensated for their property. The class or social status of the residents was irrelevant. In Seattle, million dollar properties are being removed to accommodate public works.
Amen
@@HistorywithMrMink History creates otherwise peaceful individuals to become vengeful. Racism is a pendulum that swings back and forth. If America gets peace from this racism pandemic it is going through, you will see the resentment grow and power change. Will the African-Americans be lenient on the European-Americans? I think not. Thier pride is too much. There will never be peace in America, unfortunately. That is not my opinion. That is just what history suggests will happen.
I wish we could know where Seneca Village inhabitants were displaced to.
normally.. they just take the land gave some money and kick them out...
Census reports might be able to trace people, as well as newspaper accounts.
Daniel Chang Go ahead and enlighten me! Where should I expect to view your full report/research.Thanks!
@@campkira until proven true...they likely didn't receive the money owed or the value it meant to these people of Seneca village
I. Matamoros google / Wikipedia actually tells you what happened, including their compensation, the impact on local businesses, & a breakdown of land owners / renters etc. I literally googled your question & found some great sources. Well worth researching & reading if you’re willing to invest a bit of time. :)
The older I get, the more I realize how much history I need to learn.
Bittersweet to learn about this, as Central Park is one of my favorite places in the city.
The rich elite... No properties of theirs has ever been moved or destroyed due to developments. If so, they have been compensated ten times over... “It’s a small club and we ain’t in it” - George Carlin
Exactly just like they murdered and pushed out the native Americans before them. I find it terribly sad!.
If you got two option
1. Is to remove half of the city to build the park
Or
2. remove the 1600 community outside the city to build the park
Steff Silverstam, amen!
Actually, the rich elite of Cleveland on Millionaires Row were forced out because the city wanted to commercialize the area. Historic mansions were torn down and now the entire area looks mostly abandoned 🙄 It does happen, not often but it does.
@@coreenaburke5775 Are you gonna ignore the fact the tribes would fight and murder each other for land? Or are whote people the bad guys for somoene thats has happened in every race in literally every point in history
I'm a proud native New Yawka! born and raised in Queens N.Y.! I don't understand why I have never heard of Seneca Village. It's history that definitely deserves to be remembered. 👍
Because Europeans wanted people to forget
America loves a victim story.
To be honest Queens New York is really not related
@@Toyota4Life Not honest.
@@jamesmcinnis208 just feel like queens is not important like Bronx Manhattan and Harlem
wow I never knew this ! Born in N.Y. Never learned this in school! This is amazing ! Thank you for sharing
Prolly bcs it’s extra subjects not full classes
Wow.
Same… never knew
@@laccless it would be an extra subject bc they want it hidden. putting it in the curriculum of an obscure course is just another way of hiding it.
@@nnoir no country wants to show weakness. you think they talk about mass genocide in bosnia or serbia?
I had read they had to clear out squatters living in a swamp to make the park. I thought that was mean enough. It struck me as odd that land so close to the city would have been ignored that long. Kudos for digging up the truth, literally.
The rich New Yorkers were already playing Sims 4 back in the 1800’s...
Powerful statement!
Jon Samuels A joke about a city coming and snatching away a community is very powerful!! Right
Doc Central Station relax
Sim City 2000, kiddo.
And you thought it just grew out of the ground when you were born?
The definition of “Hippity Hoppity this is now my property”
I’m an Irish person and I never heard this before. Those poor people who finally got a chance to have something of their own to have it taken from them. All there hopes and dreams that they worked so hard for just gone 😥
Weird flex but okay
@@BodywiseMustard It was said in the video Irish people lived in Seneca village too...
Like the English did to you?
“Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps” they say. how when you steal our boots every time we get new ones? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
To be fair, this was done under democrat governor.
@@IgnasV democrats republicans left wing right wing both from same racist bird
@@IgnasV that changes literally nothing
@@IgnasV there wasnt a political party called democrats at this time, simply YT people.
Dubby you said it pefectly. White people did the same thing to "the black wall street, " Rosewood and many other thriving black communities. I dont know why black people even bother with this racist country that has never respected them.
........... I didn’t even know there was originally a village there.
Learn something everyday
Yep, unfortunately this rarely gets told in our textbooks
We should turn the entire state of California into a park.
Same here it gets me wondering how many cummunity have been destroyed
Who Cares!???
Imagine if African Americans continued holding those properties; how much wealth did they lose over the centuries? Tens of billions, including interest.
You can say that about literally every piece of land in the world and about any race that once upon a time inhabited it
@@Andy-bh8hw don't use facts and logic here.
@@moglo5056 facts and logic is what us intelligent people use
They would have found a way to ensure the area is worthless. You know how they operate 🤷
@@Andy-bh8hw clown
I have an ancestor that was pivotal in the creation, well, more the funding, of Central Park. I have always been proud of that fact. Now I just feel sick to my stomach...I had no idea... Thank you for this video.
It’s not your fault, but you can undo that damage by spreading stories like these
I’ve lived my entire life in NYC and had never heard of Seneca village. Thank you for this video, a lot of food for thought.
I never took into a fact that a lot people didn’t have toothbrushes. I just completely overlooked that
🧐🧐🧐
People also didn't consume that much sugar until recently.
TheArtkaw I’m eating cookies while watching this right now 😝
@@redbrixanimations Cookies don't have visible sugar.
@@TheArtkaw Sugar doesn't harm you, fluoride does. People eat lots of fruits in warm climates but don't have teeth problems because they are not poisoned by drugs, fluoridated water, toothpastes.
They don’t ever want us to build generational wealth smh 🤦🏾♀️
Be they know the power we’ll have. Anything a black person does becomes a trend, now add money to that? America would literally shut down if every black person had generational wealth.
Tulsa oklahoma 1921
You figured it out. You get a cookie 😊 🍪
@@Loui3626uh ok......
Jhopeful __ no it wouldn’t they would spend just like always and most would be poor before they even passed it on to the next.
I called my African American history class ( in the 1990s), American history the missing chapters. Love the channel so far!
"It's not just African American history, It's just American history." We need more of that in today's society.
I never liked that way of separating history. Black Americans are Americans. They are not apart of the United States. To segregate history and black history is to do just that, segregate.
I'd rather not erase African American history
Then drop the "African" part of your identification.
@H Ma Who embrace it as their identity?
H Ma racism bigotry prejudice and ala white supremacy
Wow, now im imagining if their neighbourhood never been demolished. They would live inside the park which is kinda cool
They would be paid to buy property in another place
They would probably give up living there bcuz of the noise
The whole of new york has neighbourhoods that existed before which have been demolished. Most of them are buried under skyscrapers and apartment blocks
I think the park would have been smaller with a district called Seneca park today.
and be a multi-mulltionaires
How is it that settlements are buldozzed *just like that* without compensating the household with the value of the property or a similarly valued property in a new vacancy? This is literally robbery of people's value!
It’s called eminent domain it happens to white people all the time too. It’s not a race issue but a class one. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing tbh
_america_
1950s mah dude. Times were difficult back then.
Tiago Miranda they were compensated... It took a 5 second Google search to find out.
The problem isn't with compensation on eminent domain. The problem is what the women says near the end, owning land and passing it down is how people build generational wealth. Getting 1820 market value does nothing for the black Descendents of Seneca village.
Beautiful closing statement. Everyone should agree this is American history
It's indeed American history. But can we move forward. I'm black and the race baiters are ruining relationships. I hate talking about the past.
It’s can’t be historical if it’s present….
This happened in St Louis too. Where the arch currently stands there apparently was a thriving black neighborhood until the late fifties and early sixties when it was repossessed to build the arch.
I love to hear about these black communities that we never learn about because of the atrocities committed. Im sure there are tons of history waiting to be unearthed
It was described as a black AND Irish community
@@aubreygraham5821 It was primarily and foremostly a black community escaping racism. But overall, a minority community.
@@aubreygraham5821 I kinda forgot Irish folk were a big minority at the time
@@aubreygraham5821 majority black
Check out the Rondo neighborhood in Minneapolis. It was a historically black neighborhood that was bulldozed in the 50s for the highway.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ' (George Santayana-1905)
If you have triplets give one away
-Hannibal Buress
"It's not just African American History, it's just American History." - Cynthia Copeland
the only owners of the land are natives not europeans neither africans
@@lltipsy The only owner is GOD!!!
“Pull yourself up by the boot straps!”
But you took my boots.
And you keep breaking my limbs.
No reason to not believe in capitalism. It's the government that's the real villain as usual. At least, we have Eatonville (FL).
@@JK-gu3tl we have every reason to not believe in capitalism. yeah our government is bad and corrupt and destroying the country but we have libraries full of evidence that unchecked capitalism is not only bad for a country but deadly. And before you act like being anti-free market is pro- communism, no.
@@TheHonestPeanut America will need the free market in order to recover.
@@JK-gu3tl only made everything worse for everyone but the very rich every time it's been tried before. Its completely illogical to think it would work now. So no.
I was born in, and lived my first 18 years of life in NYC, and I NEVER heard of this. Feeling some type of way
They hid this history for a reason
Lavoid Gaskins r/wooosh
@@thehoneyeffect sad
We need a movie about this! Don’t know if there’s one already but someone should do it.
Then write the movie.
I would but too many movie projects for now and I do sci-fi not historical movies, plus it has to be someone quite known and active from the community to make this a percutant coup. Or just a good movie would do it, though.
Ava Duvernay would be perfect
@@ixon4330 history has purposely been tainted to hide the elites filthy movements, the world is built on a lot of skeletons and all is about to be outed!
@@bombcaryah true
When I was in my 20s I worked as an elderly care worker. There was an elderly gentleman who saw that I was a POC and he talked about all the POC he had lived around and heard their stories. He then said to me "what have we white men touched that we have not destroyed." I still remember him to this day.
Guilt Trip...Blacks in Africa enslaved other Blacks btw...thats hidden and forgotten get real
Wow that is powerful
yeah ok liar
It sounds like it was everything high density housing isn't. Community in the true sense. I wish more of the world was still like that.
With development the world cannot be more like that because as humans we grow and develop.
No thanks
@@aturchomicz821 no thanks to growth and development?
High density housing is better in almost every way in the current day and age, we cannot allow any more urban sprawl
Freggle agreed. Low density development promotes car use and causes higher emissions and a higher monopoly by big companies.
As an English woman I never even knew this part of New York’s history! Thank you for uploading this to educate more people like myself. I shall definitely be telling people I know about Seneca Village.
When people speak of systemic racism, this is what they are talking about.
This a prime example of how communities not deemed white are disenfranchised for generations.
It's not racism, at least not entirely. The racism was just an excuse for the authoritarianism.
it not really racism... it more elitism... rich people don't want poor people owned land in what the be park...
campkira It’s a mix of both, hatred for successful blacks and fear of the poor
It has a lot to do with racism.
This like they tried to steal black inventors pattern, jealousy and racism read about that.
@@newperve there was so much jealousy and hate, black people had to leave and go to Europe to continue their inventions
Wow, they straight up seized their land that they properly purchased and owned. That's some tyrannical ish...
new york state doesn't teach this in school. at least i never learned this-
It's not really that important tbh
It's just a fun fact
David Butler right, and we don't learn about him in school.
They don’t care about us...documentaries are becoming more informative than what they teach in school. next time I walk through Central Park, I will give praise
This sort of thing happens in cities constantly and has happened for millennia. It's awful for the people and the area, but in the grand scheme of urbanism - worthless
Sebaschan 706 it’s important in the same way thanks giving is important for Americans, it’s just a tragic historic event that was induced by ignorance xenophobia, racism and the upper class greed for expanding land and business
Another Missing Chapter almost gone in Northern Arizona: the Dineh (Navajo) of Black Mesa. This is happening right now, there is still time to help us save our homelands! please
How can we help?
For real, what can we do? Arizona isnt that far, I'd be down to come help.
Hasn't been your homelands for hundreds of years.
@@JaKingScomez it has if they still grew up there @$$hat
@@mind4lease554 Nope a German growing up in Kaliningrad doesn't call it their homeland as it hasnt belong to them for 80 years and now its mainly Russian.
That's just unbelievable, I'm glad I know what happened there today, so many respects for the families who lived there. I wish we knew more ❤️
I swear I learn more on YT than any type of class!!!!
School can only provide a small portion of History. You know there are alot more to discover, about all the Human History.
That’s why they want children to continue to go to school. They can brainwash and force feed them the information that suits them best to keep people behaving in the manner they want.
Knowing only few will go out and do the additional research themselves.
Guess they didn’t count on information technology (YT) to actually pass on real information and make people question what is or ISN’T being taught at school.
Imagine how different all of America would be if this community got to prosper up until modern times
look up a video on bronx in the 1980's
America: Full respect to private property is one of our fundamental and most important values
Also America:
@ He's saying America is a hypothetical nation build by lying cheat degenerates.
@ is a rethoric figure to show the incongruence of the fundamental values of America. They say their country is based on the fundamental respect to property right, but at the same time they have no concern on violate them when they are from non-hegemonic population.
@ Information can't be more structurally consistent and understandable. If your state supports mentally challenged with money, I recommended you not to miss opportunity.
@ both, and I think I'm doing moderatly well.
Thank you for this. We have lots we could learn from our ancestors and this shows that racism doesn’t have to be something that is taught. But being taught peace, acceptance and an alliance through similar hatred of those who were pushing them out!
The greatest story is that without wealthy elites and without government interference , ethnically different people get along without bigotry.
Lol... sometimes, don't blame wealth for the world's problems
d teachout not blaming the wealth, blaming the power hungry manipulations of people who think they are superior to us and want to control us like cattle. Keeping us divided and against each keeps them in power.
@@planetearth1705 the elites are the same as us... just richer, ie more ability. Were all the same, sinful, and etc. No?
Let me put it this way... humans are never equal in influence or power, so your argument that some ppl have more power causes the problem is wrong. Humanity itself is the problem
d teachout ok, when people with power manipulate they have already decided we don’t matter. Will there still be elements of racism , sure but left alone to deal with their own day to day survival most people will look beyond that but when the manipulations of the powerful who seek control are injected to cause division for their agenda, more wealth, more power, more control then the level of discord and bigotry will increase because it is the agenda of those who know United we stand divided we fall. It’s a lot more complex then just power or money but it is generated by those who have wealth and power. Those two things are never satisfied.
They should rename some part of it Seneca park.
Sentral Park.
Seneca Central Park or Central Seneca Park? You choose,I personally like Seneca Central Park.
@@gabri_maybe Central Seneca Park often implies there's a Side (Like Left, Right, Upper, etc.) Seneca Park, so Seneca Central Park made more sense, as it implies " the Seneca sides of Central Park ".
@@gabri_maybe the park is not solely Senevca Village.
Vox should be our modern history class
It already is our modern history class......We are using smartphones and internet lol
@@stellarim198gaming5 Haha that's so true
As someone who lives in NYC, I truly appreciate learning more about the history behind this city.
doesn't surprise me one single bit that the only empty space in NYC is the ruins of the old black neighborhood.
Blacks just couldnt unite
Everywhere, not just NYC
youtooberman9001 not surprising considering America was stolen from the Natives.
*The ruins of old Native American Tribes
@@johnnyleon636 thats the whole country.
History is amazing. I thank archeologists because they pull the forgotten truth of the past. She is also correct in saying that it's not African-American history, it's just American history ♡ This needs to be taught♡
I did a whole essay about this!!! 🥺🥺❤️ happy this came out
Anyone who watched Ken Burns documentary on NYC in the 90's would have know about this and other neighborhoods destroyed by this park. The park has a fascinating history. Even the landscape architectural design deliberately separated different classes of people. It's unfortunate the NYC did this again under the unqualified eye of Robert Moses in the 1960's and 70's.
Did you even live through the 90's if you didn't watch a Ken Burn's documentary?
@@daniellescrochet That’s true, you could not escape a ken burns documentary if you tried.
Of course it was destroyed. Middle-class black people in those times? Shocking (apparently).
b9y Not exactly. The truth is that the area the park went was pretty much woods, other than this village and a few ancient Dutch farmsteads. The city claimed eminent domain to construct the park. A previous park had been planned around 1810 but never actually constructed. Shame Seneca village had to go, but that’s progress for you.
It wasn't just black people that got shafted there.
@@jgc4818 this was terrible in the name of progress
b9y it was mostly just woods and shacks. It wasn’t all that impressing and they were poor and poor people tend to be push out.
I was lied to by my 5th grade teacher, she told me that land had never been developed in the history of the US.
She ain’t a teacher
Teachers are highly programmed, of course they teach you white-washed history cause that’s what they got taught. Educate yourself. All the best to you
Lying implies she actively knew. It’s more like she just bought into the lies.
it depends on what she meant by developed. She might have been talking about the development of large buildings and banks and trains. Did you pay attention in 5th grade or did you look out of the window.
Terence Johnson Developed means just that. Irrespective as to what has been developed there.
He clearly stated that the teacher said the LAND had not been developed upon in the HISTORY of the US.
That would in fact indeed be a lie.
The land was developed for housing and then designed, repurposed and redeveloped for the creation of Central Park.
What a coincidence. Just like when they build freeways and stadiums in black neighbourhoods.
@nesrules 8bit If you watched the video, your question was answered. Seneca Village was worse than a black middle class community: it was a thriving INTEGRATED community where blacks, Irish and Germans lived together, went to High School together (when most New Yorkers didn't) and INTERMARRIED.
nesrules 8bit he never said there were only black people in Seneca village. When did he say that?
Read his comment
@nesrules 8bit yeah, that's who they were after. Gtf out!
They go through poor neighbourhoods its common sense. Baffling how Americans still havent figured out its not coloured people that are at a disadvantage, its poor people.
Heard of black wallstreet? How about, Vagrancy law (homeless jobless loitering) passed the year sheet abolishing slavery.
This was a wonderful educational video. I had no clue. Me and my family was just in New York and Central Park was by far one of my favorite places. I had no clue. Thank you 🙏🏼
They could have left them alone bc it was at the side of central park.. could have built around it but ok
Like Seneca Park?
OR!...or, just compensate them like it says in the constitution.
if I've learned anything from history, it's that being considerate of other people's lives and existence is apparently too hard
They could have built around it on other people's property you're not making sense there was literally people everywhere on the island
The city voted on a winning design and everyone knew the design would be the difference between the city being successful or menial city. Good choice for present and future of the city.
"And the community that was destroyed for it."
Ahh yess, good ol *gentrification*
Gentrification usually refers to higher-priced real estate popping up in areas that use to be cheap land, cheap housing. This is a bit different: they destroyed all the housing, the entire community...to build green space. While Central Park might be beloved by New Yorkers today, it was at the expense of many vulnerable, voiceless inhabitants of that city.
@donthavetime4that please do more research on what gentrification is, the people in gentrified areas are not "forced" out they simply could not afford to pay rent at market value. Some places that are gentrified still maintains it's original residence because they owned the properties, example would be that gentrified areas in and around chinatowns are still mostly inhabited by Asians even though the area is gentrified because they can pay market value rent or they owned the property.
@@fizzyboy08 dude if I've been paying taxes on a property thats appraised at 50000. Then in a year or two its appraised for 150000. It's hard to pay the property tax for alot of people..
@@bernlin2000 they got paid to move
@donthavetime4that
No, gentrification is not forceful.
So happy more and more people are being made aware of this piece of history
bluebbbeans shame they aren’t made aware of the full stories though :|
I thought most people knew about it!
@Elizabeth Holden you thought wrong obviously!!
The last comment is perfect “it’s a park of American history “ it’s good that we don’t categorize who’s history it is and just call it American History
What is that supposed to mean? It’s obviously American history?
When I heard 'temporary exhibition' my heart sank. This should be a part of history that is never forgotten.
Most likely just temporary until they figure out what to make for a permanent exhibition. Maybe a statue or little museum. Trust me they'll make something.
All these "Missing Chapters" episodes tell me one thing, America's history is just SUPER RACIST.
American slavery is still legal and very real unfortunately.
I dont think it was about race
You're being conditioned to think this. Your comment alone should be enough to make you ask questions. Many times, like this instance, it isn't about the color of a person's skin but the size of their bank accounts.
@@mr.fahrenheit7009 nobody cares what you think.
And still it is
There should be permanent signs. Never forget “out of sight out of mind!”
Absolutely. Instead of hiding the artifacts in some basement there should be a Seneca Village Museum on the site that Seneca Village originally occupied open to the public and free.
Sad this still happens today. Look what happened in Brooklyn to build a sporting stadium so many people where forced out. Hey but the Nets have a place to bounce a ball and play a game.
Priorities
Exactly,it's not like they didn't already have one to begin with
Money moves mountains, unfortunately.
I can’t believe I was ignorant enough to just assume that there had been no one living on that piece of land before
Land is used by humans. All humans.
GBigs Angle native Americans and Polish people may disagree with that, genocides happen BECAUSE they invite foreigners in their lands.... the indigenous are very anti immigrant and so were Europe post ww2, then they were invaded. Cultures are forced to move out or ethnic cleansed by both Americans and Soviets... victors write the history.
Thanks to the lies we all learned in history class about the French and the British
"Gentrification" in another form once more. All landmarks in the US needs to show the full history of how they came to be.
This creeps me out I just learned about this yesterday in my schools history class
SQUIDYXDD who click on the video tho
SQUIDYXDD did they explain that ALL property owners were compensated. Perhaps the focus was on the fact that Seneca village was far less than 1% of Central Park area and that the African American community was the least impacted.
In todays victimhood mindset.........
not a chance
@@countrymorgan2942 suuuureee....the new americans just bought the natives out. suuuuuurrrrrrre.
pandastylearmy ??? This is about the establishment of Central Park, are you referring to the purchase by Minuit was over 200 years before that?
Great school for teaching this! You mind sharing what it's called?
Amazing how Laborers, Shoemakers and Waiters were able to buy a property. Savings 101. Inspiring.
Eminent Domain is brutal.
Black wall street was also burned to the ground, redlining was a thing, and NAFTA shipped jobs out of places like Detroit and Chicago turning lots of black communities into ghettos. However, believing black people are poor because of bad choices and laziness helps me sleep at night.
how does believing a stereotypical lie help you sleep at night? just curious
@@xoliyah6553 im being sarcastic
@@CUM2america oh my bad lol
@@xoliyah6553 lol its cool
And that's capitalism for middle American whites. If you're poor it's 100% due to your own decision making and not to the circumstances surrounding where your from. They use decision making as a scape goat for the faults of capitalism.
Seneca Village: *exists*
Wealthy people from lower Manhattan: Hippity hoppity, this is my property!
Tough noogies
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc WE SHOULD STOP PAYING TAXES IF THEY CAN'T TREAT US CITIZENS RIGHT.
It's free real estate
@@whatthereis ain't nothing for free
this is so cool, "it's not just African-American history, it's American history" 🥰🥰
I hope this gets more people thinking about how many communities around America were taken and used for pleasure. I’d like to add that the park was absolutely essential to the mental health of New Yorkers. It was so dense with people stacked on top of one another packed into little apartments. all and all, what an amazing story and I’m glad we have been gifted with this information
I think it’s not by chance that this came up on my recommendation after the black man in Central Park was antagonized by the dog choking white woman.
Every time we have a chance to get ahead, they move the finish line.
I hope that is a collective "we." Just when I feel good, something happens...brake bones, heart issues, etc. That finish line is blurred by cataracts and bad vision, too.
whos we what have you had taken from you
@@jonnym4670 If you don't have your health, your ability to help any cause is limited.
How about the story of The African Burial Ground that was discovered over 200 years later in 1991, 290 Broadway NYC !!
At least say 'thankyou' for this one before you double exclamation mark your demands. *facepalm*
@@ValeriePallaoro They must be a Foreigner, as their demands seem so Urgent Urgent Urgent Urgent etc.
Why would I thank you for information I already know, I could definitely tell you a thing or 2 about New York City history
Tell us more about it
Stop calling us African... Your ppl are foreigners European American....
"It's not just African-American History, it's just American History" and that is exactly how you beat racism
Anyone else thought that this was a Native American village?
OneThicChihuahua yeah but no. The inhabitants of Manhattan were Delaware Indians (Lenape). Seneca ironically were Iroquois with whom Delawares were often at war with.
A lot of blacks were here before Columbus.
Yes I thought that too.
@@courtneychamblin5332 Not historically accurate or true.
Nope!!!🤨