I normally like Keiths videos. This one however, has to be one of the most jam packed and useful videos I've ever seen him in. I feel like this video should be included in the box when you get your Zeta P2!
Keith, I am so glad you are doing these Lamello videos w Colonial. Both Lamello and (especially) Mafell are terrible at explaining the basics, let alone the nuances of their systems. If they did 1/10th of Festools educational outreach they could easily triple their US sales.
@ericdillenberger7873 Thank you for recognizing the work we’ve done here at Lamello USA. We appreciate any kind of feedback can help us help our customers. In case you are not aware, there are many Lamello videos explaining the basics on our Lamello Lessons TH-cam channel. Be sure to check it out! th-cam.com/play/PLZpugdMsywoYvNUe48ArOsX6mT3tlhbws.html
Great video and beautiful work. This is probably a bad question and idea but can I separate a run of face framed cabinets? I'm trying to save money by getting used cabinets. Unfortunately a lot of the runs are too long. I was wondering if a face frame adjoins individual cabinet boxes and if a skilled carpenter could separate those cabinet boxes. One seller is selling more cabinets than I need. Thank you!
Nice trick for getting the scribe, I’ll try that. Question re face frames: with long cabinets like this, how do you transport a completed painted face frame to site?
When you use the 20mm spacer block how do you know where the center line is? Are you making it on the 20mm block and then aligning that to the work piece center line?
H Keith! great video - I'm ready to buy! Any recommendation on a distributor? I'm in MN. I think my first use case will be covered with the tenso's Thanks!
It's not that bad more likely to loose a finger than anything else. There's no better way to do it sometimes when just a little needs taken off a grinder with a sanding disc is what I use normally the wall is bad enough it is tablesaw then grinder.
Kickback happens when the the piece you are cutting gets jammed between the fence and blade. Free handing it doesn't allow for that jam to happen. The piece will just be pushed to the side of the blade.
That's because you've never done it before and still believe that your eyes are capable of gauging height accurately on the basis of some little lines.
Not per se, but the general best practice for P-System connectors in all applications is the male half goes in the edges and female into the surfaces. This is mainly to take advantage of being able to flat-pack the product.
I noticed on the face frame example at the end the layout lines weren't perfectly aligned. Does the zeta allow for lateral misalignment? Similar to the domino when using tight on one end and loose on the other?
I’ve never seen a Minifix connector used to attach face frames to a cabinet box, so I wouldn’t be able to evaluate the advantages/disadvantages. Did you mean to comment on another of our videos?
I'm a finish carpenter doing projects like this but haven't had anyone wanting this level of scribe. Everyone wants to not pay for scribing then the general wants everything scribed. I'm going to talk them into a lamello I've scene them in cabinets but it isn't something that they would send us on site. Domino was like pulling teeth and makes me cringe that someone will mess it up and not tell anyone like every biscuit joiner I've ever used that wasn't mine. I will only use a router bit now.
Oh yeah! Finish carpenter here. Hate the blue tape. Green is way better for visibility of marking. But they make a light yellow too. Even better. Oh, and that Lamelo thing is pretty trick too
I normally like Keiths videos. This one however, has to be one of the most jam packed and useful videos I've ever seen him in. I feel like this video should be included in the box when you get your Zeta P2!
I can attest to this method. Has made scribing to walls/ceilings much easier. Thanks to you I'll start using clue on the fasteners.
Keith, you just made me a Lamello believer! Great professional work!
Thanks Christopher!
Fantastic content, best scribe technique video I've seen. Thank you.
Keith, I am so glad you are doing these Lamello videos w Colonial. Both Lamello and (especially) Mafell are terrible at explaining the basics, let alone the nuances of their systems. If they did 1/10th of Festools educational outreach they could easily triple their US sales.
@ericdillenberger7873 Thank you for recognizing the work we’ve done here at Lamello USA. We appreciate any kind of feedback can help us help our customers. In case you are not aware, there are many Lamello videos explaining the basics on our Lamello Lessons TH-cam channel. Be sure to check it out! th-cam.com/play/PLZpugdMsywoYvNUe48ArOsX6mT3tlhbws.html
You get a thumbs up, just for how good those cabinets and shelves came out!!! Dang buddy!!!
A lot of great tips! More like this please! 👍
You got it!
Great video and beautiful work. This is probably a bad question and idea but can I separate a run of face framed cabinets? I'm trying to save money by getting used cabinets. Unfortunately a lot of the runs are too long. I was wondering if a face frame adjoins individual cabinet boxes and if a skilled carpenter could separate those cabinet boxes. One seller is selling more cabinets than I need. Thank you!
Thanks for the informative video. Nice work.
Nice trick for getting the scribe, I’ll try that.
Question re face frames: with long cabinets like this, how do you transport a completed painted face frame to site?
Nice work
great video, thanks for posting this, would love see more P sysem videos
When you use the 20mm spacer block how do you know where the center line is? Are you making it on the 20mm block and then aligning that to the work piece center line?
H Keith! great video - I'm ready to buy! Any recommendation on a distributor? I'm in MN. I think my first use case will be covered with the tenso's Thanks!
Hello! Please reach out to Keith himself on instagram: @kjsawdust and he can get you set up!
Keith, would you ever make those partitions with just one board and using the medius connectors?
Have you used the Zeta with melamine material for face frame to boxes?
Isn’t free cutting on a table saw (especially tilted) piece that narrow very risky in terms of kickback?
not for the real ones
It's not that bad more likely to loose a finger than anything else. There's no better way to do it sometimes when just a little needs taken off a grinder with a sanding disc is what I use normally the wall is bad enough it is tablesaw then grinder.
Kickback happens when the the piece you are cutting gets jammed between the fence and blade. Free handing it doesn't allow for that jam to happen. The piece will just be pushed to the side of the blade.
Considering how easy it is to adjust the slot height i just dont see the point in using the spacer block that could also hinder you when plunging.
That's because you've never done it before and still believe that your eyes are capable of gauging height accurately on the basis of some little lines.
I noticed that the lamelo is now available in cordless.
Does it matter if the male or female contractor go in the face frame or cabinet?
Not per se, but the general best practice for P-System connectors in all applications is the male half goes in the edges and female into the surfaces. This is mainly to take advantage of being able to flat-pack the product.
Ah i see, makes sence thank you @ColonialSaw
I noticed on the face frame example at the end the layout lines weren't perfectly aligned. Does the zeta allow for lateral misalignment? Similar to the domino when using tight on one end and loose on the other?
That's correct, the P-System does allow for lateral adjustability, so you don't have to be right on the money for slot placement.
How much movement?
Minifix vs this system , which win for durability ?
I’ve never seen a Minifix connector used to attach face frames to a cabinet box, so I wouldn’t be able to evaluate the advantages/disadvantages. Did you mean to comment on another of our videos?
I'm a finish carpenter doing projects like this but haven't had anyone wanting this level of scribe. Everyone wants to not pay for scribing then the general wants everything scribed. I'm going to talk them into a lamello I've scene them in cabinets but it isn't something that they would send us on site. Domino was like pulling teeth and makes me cringe that someone will mess it up and not tell anyone like every biscuit joiner I've ever used that wasn't mine. I will only use a router bit now.
Very helpful tips thanks
was that paint face down while you put the tensos in?
If I understand your question correctly, yes- the Tenso connectors are installed on the back, non painted side of the face frame.
the extra biscuits are silly though. you said it yourself ;p
Oh yeah! Finish carpenter here. Hate the blue tape. Green is way better for visibility of marking. But they make a light yellow too. Even better.
Oh, and that Lamelo thing is pretty trick too
Yeah, use expensice P system instread of cheap screw, really thumbs down.