Hatsan 25 Supercharger Budget Air Pistol
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This reminds me of my bsa scorpion. Good looking pistol
I had the scorpion too , great gun
I thought Scorpion when I first saw it. 👍🏻
Wish I still had mine. My fault - I shouldn't have loaned it to a so-called friend. You think I would have learned when I did the same thing to my Paratrooper.
Just in the process of rebuilding 2 in number .22 Mk2 Scorpions, great ‘little’ guns
Loved my scorpion, made a stock for it 🙂
Being in the U.S. I have a 25 Supercharger in .177 that is a Vortex powered gun. The really nice thing about the ram model pistols is that they can be (the gasrams) adjusted to whatever pressure you would like within reason. They are adjusted by way of Hatsan's probe for their pcp guns. Mine shoots 7.9 cp pellets at an average of 632 fps. all while knocking the snot out of tuna cans open sighted at 50 yards plus. A very desirable set-up to have with the probe and an air source. They only make the .177 with the vortex. If you want a .22, you have to make that yourself. Nice video also Andy.
That's handy to know Mike, many thanks from across the pond 👍
Morning Andy, I’ve had one of these for a few years, it’s a cracking pistol. It reminds me of my old BSA scorpion I had as a youth. Mine came with a steel target holder, pack of paper targets and a tin of pellets all in the box and cost £69.99. A real bargain.
Being of a certain age, I also have fond memories of the BSA Scorpion, and sometimes muse on adding something like one to my quiver. I've wibbled between this and the Umarex Trevox, and I think this is ahead.
@@cyrusshellard3905 Woodfield GCP, but he’s no longer selling Airguns unfortunately.
DAI Leisure are doing the pistol, pellet catcher, targets and pellets for £79.99
@@sergentcolon1 are you sure that's the supercharger version, they do a 25 non supercharger a bit cheaper I've seen but doesn't look quite so good.
@@stephenoshea1166 no mine is the non supercharger model 25 version, but it’s basically the same gun. Slight cosmetic differences but same action and barrel. I would warn people though, forget about fitting optics. I’ve tried with both red dots and a pistol scope but was unable to prevent them creeping due to the high recoil ( something I think the sledge action actually accentuates rather than mitigates ) it’s an accurate pistol none the less though. Another point is that the point of impact changes if the cocking extension is left on when firing.
Back in the late 70's I made a wooden shoulder stock for my BSA Scorpion, time to get back in the shed I think.
The West German high score was similar very accurate reasonably priced bought it 1972 from a store in Oakland California called whitefront with my father it was under $50 owned it for 20 years never having an issue passed it down the line..💪
I'm definitely biased, as far as Hastsan . They make great break barrels and quality products over all. I have this in a 22 and it is huge , to me it looks like storm trooper blaster . They make darts that will work with these , just a fun feature
I have the Browning 800 Mag which is older version made under licence. Still 5.9ftlb in .22 after several years. With gamo red dot can get 10mm groups, cracking gun for the money, trigger is a peach
I bought this gun in .177 3 years are so ago, it shot 2 rounds then died...I ordered the other one, and it worked fine.
This is a cracking pistol. It's absolutely solid, shoots accurately and has a really nice trigger. I'm surprised he didn't mention the 2 stage quattro trigger, it's an absolute peach
Go to 4min 10 seconds, you’ll find he does and there’s a close up of the same👍🏻
@@TheNo1Gandalf I stand corrected
New version which I have has has a plastic slightly adjustable trigger. Trigger is still good though, but not as good as the metal one. Hatsan seems to have cheaped out on the gun. Sad when that happens.
@@owen4954 yeah. I'm lucky I got the old supercharger version.Powerful little pistol
@speckledjim_ Unfortunately I got the newer model with bulky plastic muzzle break which covers the whole barrel.The old one looks better in my opinion too.
Another similarity this has with the old Scorpion is the totally right-handed grip! One of the reasons I never had a Scorpion when I was young. Fortunately, someone gave me an old one for free a few years ago, so I didn't feel bad about hacking it around. Took a big bl**dy file to the thumb rest, and now I can shoot it left-handed. Would feel a bit wary about doing the same thing to a brand new gun at any price.
Wow! Just carried on with the video and you can get it left handed!!! Maximum respect to Hatsan for recognising the cack-handers!!!
i have both the 4,5 and 5,5 (.177 and 22) i immediately removed that useless annoying gripflips with a stanley knife, much better indeed😆
Reminds me of the B S A scorpion 177 back in the 1970s just missing the safety catch which was then on the side , scorpion Olson came with an extension to cock the barrel,
So many mentions of the BSA Scorpion tends to reveal our ages!!!!!!!! At fist sight, that was my impression!
I do remember though, that pro-rata, the BSA was seriously more expensive, so this is phenomenal value.
Great vid as always Andy.
I loved mine and in 177 and flat head pellets shot lots of farm pigeons rats and rabbits and young branchers great days and a great hobby wish I still had it
Yes we are getting on 66
The trick with cocking a heavy springer is to do it ergonomically. As with a Webley Junior, not to break it across your knee but to hold the barrel in the left fist at the right shoulder and to bring the grip down, reversed in the right fist using the big muscle at the back of your arm, the triceps. I don't know if that would work with the Hatsan but a man can usually lift himself with that muscle.
Morning Andy what a great little pistol it reminds me of shooting my Original model No5 as a kid over 40 years ago with my father
I bought the .22 version, installed a red/green optic, and shoot 14 grain hollow points, which are far cheaper than 115 grain 9mm. I estimate the muzzle velocity is 500 FPS (about 340 mph). With the target 50 feet down-range, I achieve an excellent grouping. Being 69 years old, there's a side benefit of this gun, giving my shoulder and arm muscles a good workout each time I cock the pistol.
How were you able to mount the red dot?
Does anybody remember the BSA Scorpion? Tarted up, but identical and probably performs exactly the same (because of air gun limitation criteria). One thing that puzzled me about that....and this, is being so heavy, why didn't they make a detachable, or folding, stock for it as an accessory? Massively increase it's utility and effectiveness.
Hi Tim, there is a version called Hatsan Supertact, with detachable stock
Just got mine out the cupboard (First time in 30 years+) and yes it's almost the same gun. Forgot how heavy they are, would do more damage chucking the thing :)
Yes Tim I do remember the BSA Scorpion had one back in the day the second I see this pistol the Scorpion was the first pistol came to mind
I was given a bsa scorpion. It was rusty, wouldn't cock and when I finally hot it to cook it wouldn't fire. I got it working, fitted a red dot and weihrauch silencer. It's accurate and 5.5ftlbs.
They were also in a James bond film too. Octopussy I think
This little pistol is more for your money and you can fit a mod and a good red dot and it even has a recoil stop and fiber optics to, this is the best deal better then the Webley pistol for the money and it's the same price A great video
From Holland its a beast and it shoots straight as an arrow for little money got mine for years and years never had one problem..
I have a Hatsan .25 caliber Break-barrel riffle and have found it a nice product.
Me too, spectacularly nice trigger on mine. Not light, but so well shaped your finger just slides along it for a lovely smooth release.
Good video but its worth mentioning that there maybe some confusion here.
There is also the Hatsan 25 as well as the Hatsan 25 Supercharger which indeed could be very confusing. The standard Hatsan 25 is the pistol thats under £100 and is very much like the Webley Typhoon. The standard 25 sometimes comes with targets and pellet catcher but it doesnt have the threaded barrel and is a little less powerful than the Hatsan 25 Supercharger. The Hatsan Supercharger usually retails at £115-£130. Just thought i would help clear that up. I have one of these and i actually prefer shooting it more than my Webley Alecto although it definitely is heavier. All the best from lancashire.
Top Shot thank you👍
There is also the Supercharger QE, sometimes called the Supercharger Model 25 QE that has some sort of built in silencer. Some of the models say they have Hatsan's Vortex gas ram instead of spring power. And then there is a version fitted with a shoulder stock, the Model 25 Supercharger SuperTact QE. Yes, it's all abit confusing.
Good morning, excellent video as usual, The pistol reminds me of a BSA one I use to have, Brilliant features and an excellent price too.
Well done Hatsan and yourself Andy for another great review,
The bsa scorpion? Still got mine 😁
I was just thinkig the same, bsa springer
Looks exactly like the old BSA Scorpion which was huge and starred in a James Bond film(think it was a Rodger Moore one?).The Scorpion was really just a cut down, and not much cut down!, BSA Buccaneer air rifle.The HW 45 gave similar power but in a smaller package.
I thought it was. A cut down BSA meteor ???
Hatsan makes some great budget belters.. would love to see more comparisons/shoot outs between like priced models as more and more companies enter the market. 👍
I use a hatson escort 12 bore sim auto for clays and they are cheap and very good and reliable
Typical Hatsan, cheap, powerful, really accurate and HEAVY. :-) Really good guns for the price though and as long as it
won't be used to carry around a little extra heft is usually good for stability/accuracy.
Someone aught to make a movie inspired by that one about a wedding in Greece and it should be called:
"My big fat Turkish airgun!" Nice review as usual Andy, big thumbs up!
Glad I'm not the only one to immediately think of my BSA Scorpion back in the day ....I wonder where it is ...
Hi Andy, I enjoy all your videos,just felt the need to say BSA Scorpion on this one,keep up the good work Mate 👍
I bought this in .22 for the raccoons that's been raiding my chicken coops.Lost 2 hens to them as they'd work a little each night on biting the wire loose or digging.I popped 2 of them first week my pistol arrived.6 months later not one new raid on my chickens or new scratching evidence.Served my purpose for sure!
Did you get any hits or did you just scare them away? I missed a squirrel and he hasn’t come back.
@robalan57 One I hit close range definitely in the hip.The other I hit when it stopped and looked back at me after running away with the one I hit.Ive shot at some more at 30 yards since then but missed.They won't approach the coops anymore to this day.They stay 30 yards or more away and walk only around the yard border but won't enter it.
Mrs AAR is such a good sport. Great review. Regards from Scotland.
Very good morning to you Andy. I must say I am very excited for this pistol. Fantastic review. Thank you so much for sharing. Have a great day. Cheers
The most comfortable pistol i owned was a daisy pneumatic circa 1980. Really ergonomic..
Good morning Andy, how are you this chilly Friday morning. Now this pistol is an all round smile winner.. Great price great features great finish.. Thank you for this weeks work. Cheers Simon from York England
I have got to get one of these. I have the Benjamin Trail NP pistol in .177. at 20 yards I make nickel-sized holes. I love it. I would like to see this in .25 cal. with the vortex piston. maybe a folding stock. I had to edit this because I think the .30 cal would be better. HATSAN ARE YOU LISTENING.
Living in the States and owning a Supercharger in .177, I can attest to the pistol being able to shoot Hatsan’s claimed velocity and then some.
Way more FREEDOM in the states, it'll be a joke here 🇬🇧
Can it kill rats?
I don’t think it would have any problem with that. No personal experience with specifically rats 🐀, though.
@@cheapairgunner1966 have you killed any other pest
Just field mice.
BSA had a similar pistol in the 70's :)
Yes I had one :)
Another brilliant episode Andy .Thank you and stay safe .
Excelente video, saludos cordiales desde Aguascalientes México. 🙋♂️
i've got an older model Hatsan (at least 20 years old!) and that thing is still going strong! it's a smaller/lighter gun than the one in your review, but dang, it's frickin' accurate! for a cheapo model, i was quite surprised! they're actually well made and not a waste of money! 👍
Which do u think is t best made that has a refillable air canister
BSA Scorpion flashbacks from the 70s & 80s.
I love this guy🤩, keep it up mister AAR!!
It's huge.
I'm going to have to look into getting a Hatsan gun or two.
What a great pistol at a amazing price big thumbs up.
Break barrel that will fit in my backpack!
Looks a lot like my Trevox.
Damn it, I nearly forgot that I wanted one of these but now you've reignited an itch that will one day need scratching!! 😁Didn't often see them below £100 though last time I was looking, more like £125-130.
Good morning everyone This looks wicked sweet reminds me of my High Standard 22cal only much much less expensive .
👍 for Mrs AAR
Looks like a BSA Scorpion MK2, very nice.
Great video as usual, this is similar in design to my old Umarex Trevox.
Great review, I knew Mrs. AAR could do it, she's a tough woman ;)
You got that right!
Oh pan man you got us a truly budget high quality talking pan! 🍳🍳🍳
For the money, accuracy and power, I think this is another addition to the collection, damn you Andy lol!!!!
Got myself one for Christmas
Bought this one at a yard sale just yesterday.
Reminds me of my old BSA Scorpion pistol.
It looks a lot like my bsa scorpion that I’ve only had since the 1970s. And that still out shoots all of my other pistols including the HW45 and the webley. So it’s a good format. I’ll buy one to try the bsa is a good gun to copy near impossible to cock.
there like rifle with a pistol grip. If it’s has good as bsa. For that money there a bargain a good bsa is around £300.
Definitely a scorpion copy, the BSA is a super gun I had one in the 70s wish I still had it and my Webley premier both were in 22.
@@deliboy1864 I’got the scorpion out this morning it’s a rock solid gun. I’m lucky. mine is in like new condition. We get all the pistols out every so often. And we always come to the same conclusion. The bsa scorpion is the most accurate and most devastating power wise follies by the HW45.
my daughter shoots it with the bsa trooper stock at the range and she embarrasses most of mates at 25 meters. Affordable scorpions come up on gun watch. You should grab one. Hey cheers
@@davemonday5381 The first batches of the scorpion were over the power threshold and had to be recalled, might be worth running it over a crono. For an old gun it would be interesting to see what the old girl is running at. ,👍
@@deliboy1864 Iim sure there wasn’t a limit in this country in the 70s. But you are because bsa sold the to Germany and they had a limit. Even on rifles 6 lb
@@deliboy1864 mine has been cronoed Had to crono all the guns a gun club rule and I think it was over 6lb but it didn’t matter because it was a rifle at the time. But I will check it again now you’ve reminded me. I bought it from a collector. When I asked him what did it shoot like. He told me. I’m a collector not a shooter. He’d had it from new for over 40 years and never fired it once. He couldn’t even cock it. So it’s never been apart it’s has it left the factory. It’s a mk2 the early ones hadn’t got a scope rail. Cheers
Thank you for this review. I also watched the Review on the Webley. My goal at the moment is EFP plus accuracy. I pick the Hatsan because it looks like it's more stable. Maybe the extra weight and speed of the Hatsan enhance those 2 characteristics. Recently I'm hoping to rid myself of a few vandalizing Raccoons and need both the EFP and the accuracy.
I took delivery on my Hatsan 25 yesterday. I was a bit concerned it was going to be harder to cock than i could handle for a 4 hour practice session because of your grunt and mention of tennis elbow, your phrase of needing extra effort to cock and my age of 75 years. I shot it once and it does seem to hit harder than my other break barrel guns. It also takes a little more effort to cock than my other break barrels, but it's not going to be a problem for me. I didn't shoot it more that day only because I had a few chores I thought should be done immediately.
My most pressing next chore is to find a suitable sight for the Hatsan 25 whether a crosshair scope or a dot type sight. I did notice you said it requires sight made for a pistol. I'd sure appreciate some brand suggestions for each kind of sight.
Thanks again for your reviews.
That's alright Mrs. Aar we're modern we don't need that break barrel mess, it reminds me of a musket anyway, let them know we're about that semi, full, and pump action life. Keep pushing that fire content. Tell Andy to let you shoot in the next vid, and use that break barrel as a target
Looks like a RIPOFF of the classic BSA Scorpion pistol I had one in my teens and loved it
Great gun. Have one in 177 and i prefer it to my Webley Alecto. I have a 2xpistol scope on it even though it doesnt need one. It loves RWS Hypermax Alloy pellets putting out 5.8ftlbs. I have seen the new Remington Talon Gas Ram Breakbarrel air pistol which looks really interesting but i havent seen a single review on it yet. Hopefully it will be another magnum powered air pistol. All the best from Lancashire Uk.
Me neither when I’d seen the talon I instantly researched it and found no reviews or videos or out…. Nice to hear it’s power output I’m debating a supertact version of this and was worried the 177. Versions may of been underpowered 4.5- low 5 ftlb all the best from the North topshot
From the preview. Ohh look a break barrel Diana type air gun.
Once you see it, ohh more like an air gun Desert Eagle. Nice one and for that kind of money. May need to get one 😁😲😁
Blimey. I usually have zero interest in pistols, but..... honestly, after watching this and knowing it's less than a hundred quid? I want one :)
I just bought one ! I could use the arm exercise. 💪
Saw the thumb nail and thought it was a BSA Scorpion, the pistol i always wanted when i was a kid (got a Webley Tempest instead). Aint half tempted to scratch that itch now, sort of.
handled and shot a home tuned bsa scorpion back in 89 with shoulder stock, very little recoil and stupid accurate putting out nearly 13 ftlb in .22
Many tell that this turkish pellet pistol has a serious problem with the spring system that does not last long.
Looks very much like a old BSA Scorpion pistol from the 80s to me .
The benjamin trail mark ii np pistol is about the same price and has a nitro piston and similar specs. Which do you think is better?
Amazed at the accuracy even with cheap pellets from Wembley, there is a nack to cocking
I have a BSA Scorpion with box and all the bells and whistles. The Scorpion is very swoopy in style and this Hatsan looks like a modern angular update. Fantastic to see quality like this at a budget. After sales add-on stock?
A Scorpion copy. My scorpion is great very powerful but lots of recoil but accurate with practice. The Hatsan must be good with the recoil system to help accuracy
Like the budget reviews
Nice boot-jet pistol
Thanks
I have a BSA scorpion this looks like a copy and looks to be as good as BSA
Well done ! From Rome "
Wow I love it. Smell of the barrel. Delicious and fun :) Great quality solid gun.
what a poet you are lol
Can we hunt 🕊 from 20 m?
Super pistol, the VORTEX version is superior to any breakbarrel airpistol.
What exactly is "advanced" about the plastic...er, polymer.
Thank you Andy for another great vid, the pistol is great and as others have said ''it looks a lot like the BSA scorpion''. If anyone on here can point us all in the direction of the said pistol at a sub £100 pound's price point that would be fantastic......best wishes from West Sussex...
Hi Andy, this is John Madges from the USA. I have the Hatsan mod 25 supercharger in. 22 caliber. It has the QE barrel on it with a fixed front sight. I wish they would have kept the adjustable front sight. I have the rear sight adjusted all the way up and it still shoots 4 to 5 inches low. Any suggestions? Thank you for all your videos, you are awesome! Thank you for your time and help.
With that 'Airgun-omic' 😁✊
This looks so much like my BSA Scorpion
A modern day BSA scorpion ? I had one many moons ago in 22 and it dieseled on every shot HUGE Crack with smoke wafting out of the cocking extension
You actually have to replace the Piston gas I have a Umarex version of that gun and it goes about 600 FPS and the accuracy is great
This reminds me of an old air pistol I once had, the break barrel and large body, I think it was a Webley??
This appears to be great value for money, cheaper than the Webley was back in the day??
Would have loved to see how Mrs AAR got on with it after some assistance, I bet she hit the centre, she's a natural.
a bsa scorpion
Great review Andy.
Hatsan should make a carbine version with perhaps a couple of extra inches on the barrel, it would make a great rat rifle.
They do make one, the Model 25 SuperTact, or Model 25 SuperTact QE. I doubt they are easy to find in the UK, but they can be ordered I guess. Its a cool niche product as not everyone wants a ratting pistol or ratting carbine powered by C02, Single stroke Pneumatic, Multi pump Pneumatic, HPA conversion or PCP.
@@99ron30 Just looking at one now, looks like it still has the short barrel which is a shame because a few extra inches would be a blessing. It doesn't look like it has the semi recoilless action though?
A significantly understated "AIR PISTOL" Indeed, well worth the money & more besides, great air-pistol for target shooting, great to see them still around, as said VERY understated, I would take all comers In a target contest. However, I am rather rusty, just
scope In, & I mean the scope built In & you won't miss a trick need I say more, excellent air pistol, NO gas/whatever. & It's better than tho's & some, you pay a small fortune for today's A/P's, hey kid try this out, you would embarrass them all, no doubt about It, as long as you practice & STAY SAFE, that's No1, as you know!
It would be nice to see the version of this gun that is fitted with a shoulder stock. The Hatsan Model 25 Supercharger SuperTact QE. A pretty awesome ratting gun I'm sure. And if they released a UK version with a longer barrel then it could be eligible to go to 12ft pounds.
Mrs AAR don’t feel bad I probably be a tough one for me ..! I think if the moderator would have to be steel , over time that 1/2 inch unf may become bent slightly. Have a great day Andrew 👍🏻
BSA scorpion re hashed?
Nice one that. Andy, I have a rarely used .177 Hy-Score (lovely) but is missing the rear sight. (adjustable) Where, who and how do I get hold of such ? Thanks. It shoots through my shed door !!
U should do some reviews on the Weirach Hw70 Black arrow & the Hatsan MOD25 Supertact QE
Great video love your content take over there. That pistol looks cool I have got to get me one.😁👍👍🍻🍺
Hey, Andy! Love your channel and videos! Here's an idea: I would be very glad if you review the BACS (Brockock air cartridge system)/LEP system and hopefully a revolver that has it. They say the revolvers are the best close-to-real-ones replicas out there. Unfortunately, I think they are considered like fire arms in the UK.
you explain the different speeds between barrel size I was wondering what the kinetic energy is between the two. the fast lightweight pellet or the slowa heavyweight
Morning all...🥸💥👍
Random question...my crosman vigilante lets half the co2 out before I can screw it in. How do I fix it ??