great potential project, but this mod will not drive this bulb for a long time without overheating and eventually damaging components ? i would be interesting to add power transistors to hold more power.
The original power supply was 12 volts at 2 amps (but I think those are Chinese Amps!). This variable zener changes the voltage. So the current will decrease to 1 Amp at the 24 volt setting. Any setting above the original 12 volts will deliver less current. Nice useful little video though.
Of course, since the basic power unit has not change therefore its total output watts will not change either, meaning if the voltage increases its amps should decrease accordingly, and vise versa.@@antoniodevincentiis3823
@@BlueScreendo There must be a zener diode on the feedback, otherwise it won't work. The idea is that we replaced the zener diode with a variable one (that i made ).
при выходе меньше 12вольт бп уйдет в релаксацию и под нагрузкой напряжение станет пульсирующим при выходе больше 20вольт под нагрузкой сгорит микросхема БП .
можно поподробнее почему будет пульсация, там же стоит конденсатор на выходе. и почему сгорит микросхема? вроде прикидывая в голове схему не пойму как может данная переделка на микросхему влиять? там же всего-то смещение напряжения на tl431, обратного напряжения на микросхему не поступает, почему она должна сгореть?
Boa tarde Gil e amigos. Creio ter assistido um vídeo em que se fazia um trabalho similar em uma fonte de notebook, de 19v, se não me engano. Creio que se o circuito for parecido, dá pra fazer. Forte abraço do Rio.
Muito bom o prejdto queria fazer um quais componentes usa e tem que subistiur o capacitor eu tenho a fonte está com esse capacitor estufado 6.8 uf 400v
Thankyou Walt P for the missing part just don’t want to look like a tube but we’re did the digi gadget come from ? What’s it’s part number and we’re do I stick it ?? Again I’m grateful for the speedy response
@@mickymannis He replaced the 470 mfd 16v capacitor at 1:25 with a 470 mfd 50v electrolytic capacitor. Be aware of polarity. Mark the negative (-) side before removing the old one. You can get all these parts at ebay, Amazon or any good electronics store. Hope this helps.
I Believe the rule of thumb is if the supply, in this case... 2 amps, and your device requires 3, the device load, it will not work fully or at all. Might damage the supply or the device because of a brown out/over current state that occurs when mismatched psu's are plugged in. If the device amperage is no higher than 2 amps, then the circuitry in the supply and the device with the correct voltage will regulate the amperage via the internal resistor set and how its configured in the regulator circuit. So just make sure your device has a supply at the voltage that is not a higher current rating than the device itself to avoid issues. Don't take my word for it, this is an educated guess. Have not messed around in over 2 decades with this stuff. Want to try to get back into it and this channel sure brings back alot of my training 30 years ago. Gotta brush up on the math again definitely! it explains it all period! Doing the math will definitely cue you in on the proper values. Ohms law should suffice. P.S. The Transformer secondary dictates the max current injected into the DC rectification/regulator circuit, and the entire output part of the circuit itself, is what regulates the output current. Why i suggested figuring out the math for the total resistance, and total voltage, employ ohms law, Voltage (v) divided by total resistance (r)...that will give you total current or amperes it will draw. (i) Good Luck!
If you increase voltage, obviously amperage will be decreased by the same factor(ideal condition), as a rule of thumb power remains constant. 12V X 2A = 24 Watts, You can take 24V but then ampere will be only 1A and so on...
@@asifsiddique6485 That rule applies to transformers only. What actually happens depends on the intelligence of the power supply. Generally the power that is requested depends on the load, but the device will probably have an overcurrent protection so may be automatically switched off if the current exceeds the rated value (2A in this case). Remember the original design of the device is for a fixed voltage (12V). It knows nothing about power, but if it is limited to 2A the power BECOMES limited to 24W. With the modification it will still be the same, it still knows nothing about power and is still limited at 2A. So if the load "asks" fo 2A it will attempt to deliver it as the current limit is not yet exceeded. And if the voltage is set to above 12V it will attempt to deliver above 24W. This means it will probably exceed power rating of its components, overheat and burn. So unless there is some extreme intelligence (unlikely) in this device it is up to the person that uses it to ensure that whatever load you plug into this modified PS it never consumes more that 24W, the device itself will not protect from such overload. So you have to be very cautious what you feed from the modified PS. Hope this makes sense :o)
@@littlepoison9632 а причем тут забор? зашел пернуть так подтверждай свои слова. автор регулирует точку опорного напряжения на тл431, по фидбеку увеличивает широту импульсов, поэтому растет выходное напряжение. понятно что при напряжении выше 12 вольт 2 ампер не будет, надо трансформатор перематывать, но напряжение регулируется. по сути это и есть принцип регулировки напряжения даже в статичном блоке питания, можешь из любого 12 вольтового 5 вольт сделать выставив правильные резисторы в делителе напряжения, как и из 5 вольтового 12 вольт
Не слишком маленькая механическая прочность у выводов, соединённых каплей припоя? Или это просто конструктор , которым нельзя пользоваться? Разве переменный резистор не должен быть многооборотным?
@@user-rk1el6vy9k Откуда такая информация? Приведите источник своих специальных знаний. Я давненько учился на "слесаря-сборщика РЭА", но помню, что "паяным соединениям противопоказаны механические нагрузки". Что-то изменилось с тех пор?
Я всё сделал точно также как на видео и у меня взорвался транзистор,так что это не грамотно показано, сначало нужно во всём разобраться и не подвергать людей риску смертельному,ради лайков,это жестоко.
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great potential project, but this mod will not drive this bulb for a long time without overheating and eventually damaging components ?
i would be interesting to add power transistors to hold more power.
The original power supply was 12 volts at 2 amps (but I think those are Chinese Amps!).
This variable zener changes the voltage. So the current will decrease to 1 Amp at the 24 volt setting.
Any setting above the original 12 volts will deliver less current.
Nice useful little video though.
How do one control the current like the voltage is controlled ?
since no turrns have been added to the secondary of transformer, much less than 1A will be output
Of course, since the basic power unit has not change therefore its total output watts will not change either, meaning if the voltage increases its amps should decrease accordingly, and vise versa.@@antoniodevincentiis3823
Magnífico video. Gracias Inventor 👍👏
Gracias
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اشكرك
Keep up the good work
I will
Considering the cost of normal power supplies, its a big deal!👍👍👍
Nice job 👍👍👍
Great. How much power can that little TL431 transistor handle?
it's all about power supply , The circuit works like a variable zener diode
Nice video, thanks :)
Parabéns. Muito útil.
Obrigado
Siempre lo hacen con el adaptador más sencillo que hay. Quiero hacer esto con fuentes conmutadas con retroalimentación
Si aumentan mucho el voltaje explota el tránsitor de conmutación aconsejable variar + - 5 voltios para lo que estaba diseñado la fuente original
Efectivamente, el diseño original de todo limita hasta dónde se pueda aumentar el voltaje de salida sin consecuencias.
Keren keren simple
Can I use the same part for the 12v 2.5a adapter? I will use it by adjusting the brightness of the 12v 30w bulb
it's ok if it has the same feedback
Well done!
Very nice. Excellent idea. Thank you for making and posting this video. God[Bible] Bless.
thanks
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thanks a lot
Harika.
Can this be low noise
How do one vary the current like the voltage independently ?
wait for a video
Hello, can i use the same parts for default 24v power supply as you have in the video? or i have to use other values.
yes you can
@@Inventor_AW thank, And what if the zener diode is not in the source?
@@BlueScreendo There must be a zener diode on the feedback, otherwise it won't work. The idea is that we replaced the zener diode with a variable one (that i made ).
@@Inventor_AW but what if the Zener diode hasn't been there since new?
I find that Most supplies/adadpters dont even use the clear zenar diodes..
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thanks
@@Inventor_AW hiok bo 8 ul u no to i oo uu by
What's resistance value
при выходе меньше 12вольт бп уйдет в релаксацию и под нагрузкой напряжение станет пульсирующим при выходе больше 20вольт под нагрузкой сгорит микросхема БП .
можно поподробнее почему будет пульсация, там же стоит конденсатор на выходе. и почему сгорит микросхема? вроде прикидывая в голове схему не пойму как может данная переделка на микросхему влиять? там же всего-то смещение напряжения на tl431, обратного напряжения на микросхему не поступает, почему она должна сгореть?
👍
4:23min teste no voltímetro com a lâmpada ficou bem ruim de ver a leitura, mas tome 👍pelo projeto !
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Dúvida..este mesmo esquema serve para uma fonte de notebook
Boa tarde Gil e amigos. Creio ter assistido um vídeo em que se fazia um trabalho similar em uma fonte de notebook, de 19v, se não me engano. Creio que se o circuito for parecido, dá pra fazer. Forte abraço do Rio.
O importante é que o círculo de feedback seja semelhante
Adjustable shunt regulator in place of a zener diode.
exactly
No se puede decir cualquier adaptador no todos cuentan con diodo zener...............Bogota Colombia....
eita
Como faz se a fonte tem 6 Zener diode??? Remove todos?
Tirei o diodo zener responsável pelo feed back e troquei por um diodo zener de valor variável (que fiz)
👍👍but: How to open such a sealed housing without damaging......
you can use thinner
Can I use 50k ohm potentiometer instead of 500k?
No
Aí então terei que tirar o de 470uf 16v por um desse seu de 470 uf 50v certo
Você deve substituir o capacitor 470/16 pelo 470/50
Sir maine ye cut bilkul aapke jesan banaya hai lekin mera 0 to 19 volt se aage nahi ja raha aapka 30 volt tak jata hai kiya fault ho sakta hai
शायद एडॉप्टर अलग है
Good job brooo
thank you
A fonte fica tamanho reduzido. É funcional, mas como toda fonte chaveada, é de baixa segurança. Quando queima o chaveador, a tensão sobe pra 170volts.
Com resistência constante, você não precisa se preocupar
@@Inventor_AW o que é resistência constante?
Марка цыфрового табло, укажите
Jika di adaptor ada 2 elco dan dua dioda bagaimana cara untuk mengubahnya?😊
Is this limited to 31.8v? Or will it go to 36v?
32 V max
Muito bom o prejdto queria fazer um quais componentes usa e tem que subistiur o capacitor eu tenho a fonte está com esse capacitor estufado 6.8 uf 400v
Desculpe-me .. eu não entendi o que você está dizendo
DO YOU HAVE A PARTS LIST?
TL 431
VR 500K
R 47 K
inventor forgot the 470 mfd 50v cap.
@@waltp3373 yeah
Thankyou Walt P for the missing part just don’t want to look like a tube but we’re did the digi gadget come from ? What’s it’s part number and we’re do I stick it ?? Again I’m grateful for the speedy response
@@mickymannis He replaced the 470 mfd 16v capacitor at 1:25 with a 470 mfd 50v electrolytic capacitor. Be aware of polarity. Mark the negative (-) side before removing the old one. You can get all these parts at ebay, Amazon or any good electronics store. Hope this helps.
Bro I want to know about the output current
How much is it?
I Believe the rule of thumb is if the supply, in this case... 2 amps, and your device requires 3, the device load, it will not work fully or at all. Might damage the supply or the device because of a brown out/over current state that occurs when mismatched psu's are plugged in. If the device amperage is no higher than 2 amps, then the circuitry in the supply and the device with the correct voltage will regulate the amperage via the internal resistor set and how its configured in the regulator circuit. So just make sure your device has a supply at the voltage that is not a higher current rating than the device itself to avoid issues. Don't take my word for it, this is an educated guess. Have not messed around in over 2 decades with this stuff. Want to try to get back into it and this channel sure brings back alot of my training 30 years ago. Gotta brush up on the math again definitely! it explains it all period! Doing the math will definitely cue you in on the proper values. Ohms law should suffice. P.S. The Transformer secondary dictates the max current injected into the DC rectification/regulator circuit, and the entire output part of the circuit itself, is what regulates the output current. Why i suggested figuring out the math for the total resistance, and total voltage, employ ohms law, Voltage (v) divided by total resistance (r)...that will give you total current or amperes it will draw. (i) Good Luck!
2A
Agree, i don't think that this mod. will drive many A's without at least, a ballast transistor or something close
If you increase voltage, obviously amperage will be decreased by the same factor(ideal condition), as a rule of thumb power remains constant. 12V X 2A = 24 Watts,
You can take 24V but then ampere will be only 1A and so on...
@@asifsiddique6485 That rule applies to transformers only. What actually happens depends on the intelligence of the power supply. Generally the power that is requested depends on the load, but the device will probably have an overcurrent protection so may be automatically switched off if the current exceeds the rated value (2A in this case). Remember the original design of the device is for a fixed voltage (12V). It knows nothing about power, but if it is limited to 2A the power BECOMES limited to 24W. With the modification it will still be the same, it still knows nothing about power and is still limited at 2A. So if the load "asks" fo 2A it will attempt to deliver it as the current limit is not yet exceeded. And if the voltage is set to above 12V it will attempt to deliver above 24W. This means it will probably exceed power rating of its components, overheat and burn. So unless there is some extreme intelligence (unlikely) in this device it is up to the person that uses it to ensure that whatever load you plug into this modified PS it never consumes more that 24W, the device itself will not protect from such overload. So you have to be very cautious what you feed from the modified PS. Hope this makes sense :o)
Bagaimana dengan adaptor 12v 1a apakah sama caranya
SUPER(TURKEY)
thanks
Bagaimana kalau pakai ic regulator ?
Nice
thank you
Please give circuit diagram 🥺
این مدار در ولتاژ ۱۲ میتونه ۲آمپر جریان بده اما اگه والتاژ رو اضافه کنیم جریان کاهش پیدا می کند
Please explain how the screen was installed
Connect it in parallel with the output
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Genius🎉
thanks
Pode me ajudar qual capacitor posso colocar no lugar desse estufadao e o outro tá bom ele e de 470 uf 16v
I can use vearabil resister 470k
yes
Дядя схему нарисуй
Было бы неплохо в описании указать ссылки на компоненты
Да ешче на тарелачке принести тебе на стол. Человек старался все снять чтоб было видно, что за детали, а тут покажи где брал.
@@BigPigAss Расслабьтесь. Эта схема нерабочая.
@@littlepoison9632 чем докажешь кроме своих слов, в видео показано что рабочая
@@lexxkrt На заборе тоже написано. Доказывать не буду. Потрать на этого шарлатана своё время.
@@littlepoison9632 а причем тут забор? зашел пернуть так подтверждай свои слова. автор регулирует точку опорного напряжения на тл431, по фидбеку увеличивает широту импульсов, поэтому растет выходное напряжение. понятно что при напряжении выше 12 вольт 2 ампер не будет, надо трансформатор перематывать, но напряжение регулируется. по сути это и есть принцип регулировки напряжения даже в статичном блоке питания, можешь из любого 12 вольтового 5 вольт сделать выставив правильные резисторы в делителе напряжения, как и из 5 вольтового 12 вольт
Mi mandi lo schema elettrico?
È semplice e non ha bisogno di un piano, basta guardare attentamente il video
and capacitor
you can use 1000uF-50V
Не слишком маленькая механическая прочность у выводов, соединённых каплей припоя?
Или это просто конструктор , которым нельзя пользоваться?
Разве переменный резистор не должен быть многооборотным?
Это капля припоя выдерживает 7 кг нагрузки.
Разве использованная переменка не малогабаритная? Хотя габариты переменки не имеет принципиально.
@@user-rk1el6vy9k Откуда такая информация?
Приведите источник своих специальных знаний.
Я давненько учился на "слесаря-сборщика РЭА", но помню, что "паяным соединениям противопоказаны механические нагрузки".
Что-то изменилось с тех пор?
Success hai kya
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transistor number please
it's TL431
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no problem
Ни схемы подключения, ни разъяснений... о чём видео?
Я всё сделал точно также как на видео и у меня взорвался транзистор,так что это не грамотно показано, сначало нужно во всём разобраться и не подвергать людей риску смертельному,ради лайков,это жестоко.
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