Yasiin Bey Speaks His Mind On Spotify & The Pressure To Release Black Star II | People's Party Clip
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- In this clip from next week's "People's Party with Talib Kweli," Kweli and co-host Jasmin Leigh talk with Yasiin Bey about streaming music and dealing with the audience expectations that surround 'Black Star II.'
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We want your reactions to this raw moment! What do you think about streaming? Does it support artists?
It’s so insidious because streaming services has become the best (and basically the only way) to dig in the crates, listen to new music and learn about artists for the consumer.
Then , artists are penalized and need to sell some mugs and backpacks in order to get their bread instead of actually focus on perfecting their craft.
If you really dig an artist you’re streaming, get off streaming services for a month or two in order to save a buck and buy his or her vinyl (if the artist put one out) . Artists are workers, and should be paid as such if we enjoy and value their art.
Unfortunately, there are so many artists that are willing to take that fraction of a penny. If, as a unified force, Black artists could impact the streaming service’s bottom line, there could be some negotiation. Black Star is in a position to survive without streaming, but other artists may feel dependent on streaming for potential growth of their fan base.
We busy with our Anime music; but let the OG know to feature Joey BadA$$. Nice to see all is well; them fans of his have to chill at times; anyways, just dropping in, to say whats up!
BLACK STAR KEEP SHINING!
Only if they are paid the proper price for the art they gift to the world
'The people that really love music at some point all try to make it.' Shout out all the laptop beatmakers and home studio MCs. 👍🏿
1000!!%
FAX.
This is true
True dat!
10000%
"People who really love music, at some point, try to make it"
Truer words have never been spoken.
What he said about streaming and fans' entitlement to music is the truth. As a fan we aren't owed anything from artists
@Goopy Le Grande facts
@Goopy Le Grande man I miss my old cd collection, might do it again.
All facts. Bandcamp is way better
Truth, but that goes both ways.
I refuse to give up my CD collection. I still buy CDs as well
Hearing Yasiin Bey find a common thread between strippers, colonialism, and the music industry is why he's the GOAT. There's honestly very little else that has me more excited than a fucking MADLIB-PRODUCED Black Star album! That being said, take your fucking time and deliver it how YOU want it delivered. After all, if the love is real then time or money shouldn't be obstacles.
he right tho
@@qthe6thman 1000%
Facts!!!!
Absolutely agree. :-)
Such a perfect analogy ‼️🙌🏽
"The God that I serve isn't interested in my misery, I'm not interested in my own misery, or the misery that people are trying to put on my back", BARZ !!!!!!!!! Respect to Yaasin Bey
😌 I felt that.
You can tell when someone is a elite MC just by the way they talk in interviews. They be dropping bars left and right just talking.
Mos so humble , I forget he really from the streets.
Right !! That Brooklyn came out!! 🤣🤣
Spread LOVE 🙏🏽
Relax
How could you forget lol. He screams BK every song
Exactly 😭😭
This is why I still buy CDs and mp3s, especially from independent artists. When I'm actually buying the album instead of streaming it, I know my money is helping those artists thrive. On top of that, I can listen to those albums offline, not worrying about data limits or losing the signal.
Artists still hardly make anything from a CD sale. It all goes to the labels.
I couldn't agree more. Especially if you cop direct from their website.
Artists only earn a small percentage of album sales, most of the money they make comes from merchandise and concert ticket sales.
Some artists sell cds directly without labels. Roc Marciano has his own website he sells cds, vinyls ,mp3s with no middleman
@@anonymousapocalypse247 or they start labels of their own like Frank Ocean did with Boys Don’t Cry
He is 100% on point. Consumers have gotten way too greedy, way too entitled, way too empowered to bully artists into this urgency. Art isn’t urgent. Art is natural. We have so much diluted art, untalented work through expedited projects, limited experiences because we rush our artists.
audiences? yes, sometimes
but, I took it more so as Record Execs tryna put they hand up your back to move you here and there, and tell you when to smile - and what you're worth
i love this - reminds me of "The Industry" by DarkManX
the creators of art that reflect the True Spirit of anything is NOT TO BE BOUGHT AND SOLD the way these business ppl wanna commodify It
I'm not mad at streaming for convenience - but the artists deserve their Due for their labor
(and digital isn't infallible)
Artists deserve OWNERSHIP of their art - unless they choose to sell it **Freely**
- as opposed to selling/giving it away out of ignorance, conditioning ("this is how it's always been done" 🙄🙄😠), desperation, etc.
I'm just glad it's easier to build independent nowadays bcz of internet and digital - though, it can take So Much to build, and Live (not just scrape by) when you do it that way
- but it can be done
that has always been my goal - bcz the instances when business and "ppl elements" started coming into my scope, it always went Left, with who's gonna take advantage, and how
i gotta teach myself everything - and be able to make it from top to bottom, by myself - just to make sure someone can't use my lack of know how as a means to put me in the corner regarding my own stuff smh
I'm probably gonna have to leave my music to someone, bcz i don't see me getting it out before i die - i never wanted the fame anyway
i just wanted to do what Moved Me - and see where my talent could go artistically - if it moves someone else in a positive way - that's a blessing
i don't think i need to be here for that part 🙃✌🏾
@@ummeiguess i felt the same way when I wrote my 1st rhyme...didn't give a fuck about the art as a business but just the love of it....that was some 20 yrs ago in middle school
"Consumers have gotten way too greedy, "
Not just with art.
Consumers have been told by greedy corporations that they deserve cheap
chocolate, palm oil, gasoline, meat, milk, ...
just because they don't want to pay a fair price to the producers.
They making billions for their managers and stakeholders, and trying to "empower" us to be complicit in their scheme.
100% on this. As a small time painter the control that people want to have over you because they purchase your art is a strange feeling. Recently went through a situation and this video really helped me feel more validated for making the decision to go with what I believe is right for me and my creative path. Thank you Yasiin Bey and Talib Kweli for putting this strong statement of honoring your creativity and not compromising to please people that are not involved in the actual process of creating the art.
I didn't know what to expect. Maybe an OG rant. But he made a great point about art and music.
Lots of wisdom shared.
droppin "og" in there, like we don't see that you still in pampers with that kind of attitude towards knowledge itself.
He snapped on this shit, unfortunately this message won't make it to everybody.
Very few messages make it to everybody. This is definitely one I want to share to the real ones only
I hear I’m but…,
@@silewis9396 Share it as much as you can!
This made my day 😂❤️✊🏾 I definitely miss Yasiin. I definitely can feel what he’s saying. Blackstar album is one of my favorites. I still listen to it once a week but I can wait for 2 until the other stuff is sorted out.
“Don’t be knocking on the kitchen door if y’all can’t cook... get some shut up ceviche lol”
Yasiin spitting facts though. Despite our desires for the album it’ll drop when it’s meant to. I hope we can cop some physical copies cuz I still be on my CD playing on the stereo 😂
Him n Q-Tip have such distinct voices.
Sounds like he's rapping when he's just talking
"Mind your business. Try today for free."
Aaahhahahahahahaaa That's the funniest shit I've heard all week.
Mighty Mos! Yassin Bey puttin down wit a frown... LMAO. This is why the wait will be well worth it. I felt the "stop comin to the kitchen asking when it's gonna be ready" analogy... Spot on.... Go sit yo ass down... It'll be ready when it's ready. My mother always says when asked what's for dinner... "wind pies.... Go outside and get one". Bless up Kweli, Jaz & the Ppl's Party
LMAO at 'wind pies.'
🤣 at ‘wind pies nice one right there.
That's dope
I never heard that
Mom’s smooth 👑🙏🏽
as a creator, I just felt what Yasiin said in my soul
Same
Thank you Sir
I will never give up
"Bevor i leave this planet I gonna drop 365 Songs.."
by MAD MAXX
I love Yasiin. I see the infatuation fans give artists demanding things from them, but I never felt I was owed anything from any of them. As fans we should just be down for the ride. I wish I had more music from Yasiin, I think all fans of him wish that. But I will support him regardless of if he puts anything out again or not. Regardless of what I feel about the quality of his output. I’m a stan of him, so whatever makes him happy.
I feel like Yasiin has released so much amazing music, he could stop now and I'd still be forever thankful. That Black Star album... Damn... A tough act to follow! So it's only right they take their time and want it done on THEIR terms. Loved everything Yasiin said.
Mind your own business, try today for free! Well said Yasin.
😄💯
gospel!
Yasiin just exposed how corporations pit us against ourselves while “the man” pays us way under our true value while we produce billions for them. Great job 👏🏿 & Dope metaphors & analogies 🔥. I look forward to this album whenever I can get it.
Victim mentality. Sad.
And this is _every_ fucking industry. Not just music.
$7.50 an hour to work at Wendy's, while the company makes _billions._ What kind of fucked up logic is that?
That was a fantastic breakdown of the situation. Our contribution is often worth more than they are paying us.
"The god that i serve ain't interested in my misery" shit man i always hear how reverently Talib talks about Yasin's wisdom but yeah dude is a fountain.
This is why he is my favorite emcee!! Said the God that I serve is not interested in my misery. FACTS 💯💯💯
Anytime Yasiin Bey breaks anything down, we are blessed. His wit and integrity illuminate and elevate even the debased. Appreciate his work where/whenever it shows up. Meanwhile, I'll just feast on some of that Shut-Up Ceviche. Thank you for serving it up.
He's funny as hell, too!
'The God that I serve aint interested in my misery' -Mighty Mos
Mos kept it real. If you really love music, you would never rush the process. Everything he said was on point.
Okay dude its been over 20 years i aint holding my breath its all good man.sheez
More power to you (Talib) and Yasiin on this one...you said it in a rhyme 20 years ago...and now you're in a position to flip the script and live it out.
"Not free, we only licensed, not live, we just exciting
cause the captors own the masters to what we writing"
Control your narrative to the fullest you can. - Production to Retail. Manufacture it in the motherland if possible - Real ones will support.
The CD era was the introduction to the destruction of the artist-supporting music industry as soon as digital formats were introduced that was it. The value and quality of most recorded music dropped. The streaming services have exponentially sped it up, I think very few people listen to albums in their entirety anymore.
I recently got Common's A Beautiful Revolution on Vinyl because I assume that's the best way I can support a valued artist.
Now when "Yasiin Bey and Talib Kweli are Black Star" releases...I'm hoping there is a vinyl version, seriously vinyl is second only to live.
1
“Thieves In The Night” is one of the greatest hip-hop songs ever.
Prolific, philosophic, poetic words and that Cobain quote🤯
For those who want to sneak and stick a spoon in the pot for a taste,..
"When you facing mortality, you make space for the morality you erase to get paid a salary" -Kweli
He's speaking the TRUTH!
Whatever, whenever that album is OUT, WILL BE A CLASSIC BANGER!
And Mos (and Kweli) is wanting that. REAL HIP HOP SHIT!
Speaking Facts!
Eagerly waiting Sir. I’m ready to buy when you’re ready to sell.
Handle it ✊🏼
@0:33 “Alright, ok, alright, ok, ok,Alright, ok, I’m feelin you” lol
LOL
Bey is on it he's talking economic base he controls it we all do but we allow ourselves to be undermined
Mannnnn, I already listened to this whole podcast twice, but when the whole vid is up, it might just be on a loop. BEEN waiting to see these bros chopping it up and giving us some insight. This shit is golden.
“What kind of Frankenstein, Bugs Bunny math “ is forever legendary 😂😂😂
What he said is straight up truth it's about time an artist stand up for himself and speak up to defend their art etc we need to hear more of this
Every unintentional act is a magical one. Mr Yasiin Bey point it write on the head. Or straight to the heart. Every man and woman is a Star. Be that six rayed star y’all black star forever ✌🏾. Love y’all albums and the vibe y’all on. Because that is a beautiful statement that only musicians listen to music. Peace to all gods and universes.
That's exactly why I won't pay for any streaming sites. I'd rather my hard earned money go directly to the artist for their hard work whether it's physical or digital.
this blew my mind... That's the very truth with all medaphoars and hints - respect
Entitlement is the fans’ kryptonite.
My ultimate dream...., to meet and hug brother Mos Def. Where do I start? His songs, his art, im at where I am cos of his creativity and his music. His music has helped me so much, when I was down in the dumps emotionally. So much praise to Mos Def. The best there ever is.
I really hope this interview is longer than an hour. I can't wait. He is speaking my soul in this. I still shake my head at how much these streaming services give us. It's worst than CD royalties/points
Good Day and Happy Juneteenth! Get this gift from Yasiin Bey!
"I am not here to be run by the audiences expectations". That's soo important for artists!!
This is legendary footage. I love this. Amazing rant. Straight facts.
Yasiin dropping knowledge as usual! I can't wait to watch the full video. But I will say that audience/artist interaction has changed quite a bit, but not how a lot of people may think. It seems to have reversed. Fans feel "entitled" to what and when artist put out, and some artist feel "entitled" to where and when fans come to their shows. Of has always been an exchange of energy and when it is imbalanced it can turn sour. I'm ultra excited for Black Star II and because it is a quality product I will actually purchase it. But how I've always looked at streaming is the new radio. It isn't designed to make the artist money, it is simply a promotional tool to generate "buzz" for the artist to tour on. (Especially in the more recent history of the industry). Thanks The People's Party. You all always deliver the goods.
Man I miss this dude. They don’t make men like this often. Much respect
Respect! I can wait until you guys get a fair deal!🙏
Im just gratefull for another Blackstar album has been made 🙂👌
Black Dante !! Yasiin Bey we love you
U ain't neva lie!
Mos is dead right about streaming!✊
Shoutout Yasiin, always keeping it real. His installation/album at Brooklyn Museum was an amazing listening experience. Ive looked up to this man since i was 10 years old, and hes never been on some fuck shit ever. All love , peace from Brooklyn NYC.
NOTICE The writing on Mos Deff's Shirt?. ‘ንግሥ' means King in Ge’ze (🇪🇷🇪🇹) Language
They ain’t ready for this convo!!! Word
I agree with bey ever since I heard about 10 yrs ago that artist barely make any from there music that is sold on iTunes and websites like them I understood more and more about what bey is saying
To Talib (I'm an old, ignorant head, pardonme),
I'm in the winds of a different cycle right now, so The Pulse of Hip-Hop is just a feathery something on the edge of my Screen... But it makes me so happy, proud, and relieved to still see you preaching on this corner, after so many...
It's also nice to have a prophet of the same era at the ready to give the Good Word to those of us, in different cycles, who find themselves brought back for occasions such as this.
Mysterious ways.
I hope "Shut up Ceviche" becomes a classic!
Make it happen!
As an artist, I felt what Yasiin said to the core! We're not being offered what the music is truly worth! 0.004 per listen is robbery! I think there needs to be a universal streaming service that is artist led and funded. Our shares should be our shares. Not the tiny crumbs that Spotify and Apple are offering! Tidal and Napster pay out 1-3 pennies, but nobody really uses their services......
MOS DEF HURRY UP WITH BLACKSTAR ALBUM DAMN IT LOL 😆
🤯🤯🤯 I’m 45 years old and these men have been expanding my mind for a lot of years. 🙏🙏🙏
OG! Yasiin! Most definitely! LOL!
"The gods I serve are not interested in my misery. I'm not interested in my misery" - Yasiin Bey
Understood sir. Understood.
Mos Def dropping gems "Listen Up"
WHO IS MORE ESSENTIAL TO BLACK STAR... THAN BLACK STAR??!! all respect due my brothers and sisters
😂😂😂😂😂 much respect to Yasiin Bey.
Blackstar and the whole Ruckus era was a game changer, hip hop was never better.
he's so talented and smart
Exciting news! I'll pick it up on whatever it's on, whenever it comes out👍👀
This was refreshing on soo many levels!
I think the problem isn't the fans but social media and promotion strategies. I read about the new Blackstar album on facebook some months ago and Talib Kweli talked about it some weeks ago. So now fans are waiting for it because they love your music. If nobody had promoted it before it was out the fans wouldn't even know about it.
Same things Joe Budden was saying. I feel you.
Incredibly important message - the audience needs to be honoured and respect the fact they get the opportunity to be with the art that artist's make. Man is so right to not be part of the big music corporate monopoly BS.
I need like 4, 5 hrs of my man's opinions and insight
Mos speakin fax. hope he can put that wit, aggression and charisma into the project when it's ready
Damn Mos Def… shook me up on this one! Word!
raw, real, and really funny
Good to see mos def(yasiin bey) still doing good legend
Completely agree, whoever said paying artists a fraction of a penny was the move?
White execs
@@blodiaaa6990 Uh so black ppl don’t use Spotify?
Fantano said it best. I’d rather spend $20, $30, even $40 on a physical copy than have it be on some subscription service I’m gonna forget I’m even subscribed to.
Facts. Yasiin complaining about spotify and then doing his fans dirty with the Luminary bullshit.....not a good look.
I agree. When do you split up a penny? I mean I’m on TH-cam. I don’t understand how you split up a penny. How come you can’t get like once in per view. I mean someone to explain the mathematics to me. I’m self-employed, but I don’t have my own contract. So someone’s telling me what they’re willing to pay me to whatever. I can take it or leave it. The one thing I do like about being self-employed there’s no schedule. Can’t nobody tell me I got to be here on such and such day. I wouldn’t even take a contract that required that.
Much respect to you. I too wanna be self employed one day.
People really need to be buying the music. Its unrealistic to expect these companies to be able to pay artists equally with how much fucking noise and saturation there is when it comes to music that gets released. And I'm not just speaking out of my ass here, I'm an artist with music on Spotify. And to be truthful, especialyl when you're starting out, audience numbers increasing is what you should be worried about. Because when you start getting into the real money makers like merch, CDs and vinyl, you have to have enough fans to be able to at the very least break even for the cost of manufacturing of whatever you're doing. Vinyl costs a lot of money and of course people usually charge more for a vinyl than a cd but it also has a much higher minimum number of copies that needs to be manufacturing than CD and the more pressed for either format, the lower the cost per unit becomes.
I'm not worried about money from streaming, its for people to listen to me conveniently without having to spend their hard earned money first. You wanna support me? Buy the 12"s/albums on iTunes/bandcamp/Amazon or whatever.
The part about them loving and wanting the new BlackStar album more than us fans really hit me. As an artist I understand that. It's the love that feeds the creative instinct.
That's what wrong with this generation's mentality it's too trifling and impatient and ignorant for the sake of being that
Finally got my boy Yasiin Bey!!
Lol he speaking facts but the whole time he’s talking i just think about gangstalicious lmao
Black On Both Sides is a certified front to back classic, no BS...who knows how long that took to come up with that masterpiece...
I hear what you saying mos, but now we'll never get madvillainy two, and we don't want that to happen with the black star project. But I hear what you're saying.
So can't wait for this interview.
His analogies are most definitely nasty!
"Have some shut up Ceviche" LMAO
" stop knockin on the kitchen door"....one of the greatest ...period 👍🏾
As a fan, I think Mos doesn't get that the people "who love music" will stream your work and still pay for it. I still buy Bandcamp albums of artists I discover on streaming platforms because I'm trying to support the artist and show appreciation. The streaming platforms help you reach exponentially more people "who love music" that are willing to pay you directly for your art. I think the artists(and potentially us fans too) should put their weight behind reducing the barrier to this direct payment of artists from the platforms. The portion record labels pay artists, is something else on it's own...
I think he's talking more about how the artist's percentages are dictated to them rather than them being involved in the process of deciding what is fair. In the streaming aspect it's not about the audience but the 'middlemen'.
Great interview. I would love to see the Boogiemonsters member Vex Da Vortex on this show. That 1st and 2nd album from Boogiemonsters was everything we need to hear for the now and present.
There's something human about going to a record store, searching for that feeling, then processing your purchase. Streaming is wrong.
So true. I put out a physical product and I want to have something tangible as well.
I bought Black on Both Sides last year on Vinyl, It came with a printed thank you note and signature from Mos himself. Shit hit WAY different than seeing a jpg online
@@Quasi404 Well said.
Best video I watched all month. Still need to make it to his music museum in NY.
They should just do like wutang did with the auction lol
No matter how they release it they will be undercut. He obviously has a super valid point
He actually had something similar, an art gallery listening only album in Dubai the other month. Think the exhibition is on tour.
Im seeing this for the first time In 2023 and Im grateful for this information being handled this way. In an actually organic way.
Keep up
I have been bangin Black Star since the day it dropped and will be till the day I die or can't hear anymore. Thieves in the night is still my favorite track. THANK YOU for the knowledge
"People who really love music, at some point they try to make it" .....
"The God that I serve ain't interested in my misery" Whew Chile THAT IS A WORD 🙌🏾