The talk about leaving and cleaving needs to take place before they are engaged. Usually, either it isn't discussed at all or they wait until they get married and find out the leaving hasn't happened and in many cases, probably isn't going to.
🎯 ❤ So good!! Pastor Mark, thank you for teaching and training what some call “generational curse breakers”. It is rare for this information to be shared in a church setting but is so important for the times we are living in. I am a cutoff and my ex is enmeshed with his family. He declared them as his family but not his own wife and son. I have spent the last seven years learning about enmeshment in families. It has been difficult but I am hopeful that I can make a difference for my son’s future as a “new family”.
Wow, I’m so glad that a man of God has finally given an in depth discussion on this topic. It is foundational (after the gospel, of course) and will lead many to better and stronger marriages. Thank you, Pastor Driscoll! I’m super thankful that the Lord directed me here. I’ll be tuned in for more…
When my husband and I got married. We never went on a honeymoon. Then a year later his mom bought us tickets to Maui for our honey moon. We had a 1 year old at this point just about. But the kicker is this… she said since she’s paying for our honeymoon she’s always wanted to go to Maui so she came with us!!!!! So it wasnt quite a real honeymoon.. can’t wait to watch this.
Awesome sermon. Thank you for using the KJV bible. A lot of Pastors usually use ESV or the NIV and it drives me insane. Keep up the good work Pastor Mark!
Nothing wrong with the KJV but we use the ESV and the NIV because it is easier to understand for us. If you can’t understand it then you get nothing out of it.
@@daleneb24 I would highly suggest reading the KJV after you've read the ESV/NIV. Those translations leave out verses and words. The other reason I can think of as to why you can't understand the KJV is that maybe you're not ready to learn that part of the bible yet. God will show you what it means when you're ready to learn it. He did that with me. There were parts of the KJV I didn't understand but later reading again I had that, 'ah ha' moment. Godspeed.
@@coolbabe459It’s not right to criticize someone because of the “version” of scripture they read. I could just as easily say, you need to read the Geneva version of scripture which contains more than the KJV. It’s ok to only want to use the King James Version, but don’t think for one second that the Holy Spirit won’t be able to guide a person into truth just because they are reading a different version of scripture.
I need this! Been dating for 20 years, 2 kids. Inlaws are crazy. Had to cut them off. Do not support our marriage! Well we're engaged now and their not invited!
What I notice from the families around me that get this wrong is that (almost universally) the issue with leaving lies with the wife, almost to the point where the husband becomes secondary. Wife marries a man but someone in her family often holds a higher position of authority and respect than her husband. The couple spends a lot of time with "her family," even if the husband doesn't want to. Time with his extended family is spent begrudgingly. On further observation you'll see that the things that the woman would disagree with the husband about wont be a disagreement with a male member of "her family." Its usually her "daddy" (grown women using that term drives me nuts). It might be her brother. It might be her grandfather. If her husband tries to show leadership and step into that spot at best he'll get resistance and resentment. This is why I wish churches preached more AT women than they do. If they resist biblical teaching from their husband they need to hear the truth from a 3rd party male that they respect. Certainly this applies to men as well, the difference being that nobody stand's in defense of a mamma's boy. The whole world loves a daddy's girl. The bond needs to be broken, not celebrated.
You're telling my story. My wife never elaved and cleaved. Our whole life revolved around her family. She constantly spent all her time with them and asked them for everything. She always compared me to her dad and brothers saying I wasn't "a real man". Always emasculated me. When I told her to leave and cleave she flipped the script saying "you just want me all to yourself! You want to isolate me!" and called me a narcissist. I even took the issue to the church and they said "there's nothing sinful about spending time with parents. We have several families here that live with parents and there's no problems. The issues must be you". I was gaslit into oblivion on all sides. Were now divorced with a son. She ruined us. The church ruined us.
Why is it always present as the man not leaving and cleaving? I did. My wife never did. Her entire life revolved around her mom and dad. She spent all her time with them. Asked them for everything. Never went on trips or dates with me. Always went on trips and had dinners with them. I got sick of it and when I told her about it she left
We attended service today and it was amazing! My husband actually enjoyed it, which for me says something. We do have question though, did Pastor Mark say he had mai tais Hawaii? Just wondering his view on alcoholism.
How do you go from enjoying a drink on the beach to alcoholism? The original Christians did partake in wine at celebrations and such. I’m not sure it’s a sin until it crosses the line into drunkenness. That’s my understanding as of now.
@@abundantangel6376 as a former alcoholic I see what works for me is complete sobriety and to hear he drinks was a shock to me and my unsaved spouse, but not like I’m never listening to him again but I would like to hear more on it..and having a drink to going into alcoholism is easy, I’m not saying anyone is an alcoholic but I was one until recently a few years ago.
Yes he did. And if him and his wife are not an alcoholics, that's ok, Jesus drank wine. If him or his wife struggle with alcohol, then it would be wrong. I don't drink because my partner is a recovered alcoholic. For me to drink, it would be wrong but drinking is wrong as a whole.
@@sassyanne88 I don’t think I’ve heard a pastor preach and then Say he did that lol it was just something new to me.. I understood the context and that’s why I’m not bashing. That was new for me and it was a great sermon. My husband was glad to hear his sermon plainly spoken. We’ll be back for sure!
Drinking is not wrong as a whole. That is legalistic. Being DRUNK or high, is what is wrong. The action of having a glass of wine or a cocktail occasionally is NOT WRONG. Alcoholism and drunkenness IS. Jesus’s very first miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding celebration.
"America is a country of cut-offs..." Yes, but due to economic and logistical situations and not necessarily emotional reasons, particularly after the wars.
Satan is bright he deceive the third of the angels. Go with Christ Jesus KJV, keep the seventh day Sabbath. And the other commandments. Sooner the SUNday law come. God bless.
Please all, do some research on this man before listening to any of his sermons. He is a narcissist who has left a trail of utter destruction behind him.
Man, I love this guy 😂 . We really need more Pastors speaking the truth… the hard truths
The talk about leaving and cleaving needs to take place before they are engaged. Usually, either it isn't discussed at all or they wait until they get married and find out the leaving hasn't happened and in many cases, probably isn't going to.
💯 true!
1000% yes
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Mark Driscoll is so awesome! Following from Kansas City! :) i really appreciate all of his Biblical teachings!
Such a wonderful service today. This message made a huge impact on me, tells the story of my failed marriage - and how to not repeat that ever again.
🎯 ❤ So good!! Pastor Mark, thank you for teaching and training what some call “generational curse breakers”. It is rare for this information to be shared in a church setting but is so important for the times we are living in. I am a cutoff and my ex is enmeshed with his family. He declared them as his family but not his own wife and son. I have spent the last seven years learning about enmeshment in families. It has been difficult but I am hopeful that I can make a difference for my son’s future as a “new family”.
Wow, I’m so glad that a man of God has finally given an in depth discussion on this topic. It is foundational (after the gospel, of course) and will lead many to better and stronger marriages. Thank you, Pastor Driscoll! I’m super thankful that the Lord directed me here. I’ll be tuned in for more…
Clear thinking. Direct. Practical. Thank you.
He IS awesome!!! Easy going and easy to listen to🥰 from Nebraska❤️
When my husband and I got married. We never went on a honeymoon. Then a year later his mom bought us tickets to Maui for our honey moon. We had a 1 year old at this point just about. But the kicker is this… she said since she’s paying for our honeymoon she’s always wanted to go to Maui so she came with us!!!!! So it wasnt quite a real honeymoon.. can’t wait to watch this.
Wow… those mothers
I wouldn’t have went on that trip
This is spiiiiiicyyyy and I love it
Awesome sermon. Thank you for using the KJV bible. A lot of Pastors usually use ESV or the NIV and it drives me insane. Keep up the good work Pastor Mark!
Nothing wrong with the KJV but we use the ESV and the NIV because it is easier to understand for us. If you can’t understand it then you get nothing out of it.
@@daleneb24 I would highly suggest reading the KJV after you've read the ESV/NIV. Those translations leave out verses and words. The other reason I can think of as to why you can't understand the KJV is that maybe you're not ready to learn that part of the bible yet. God will show you what it means when you're ready to learn it. He did that with me. There were parts of the KJV I didn't understand but later reading again I had that, 'ah ha' moment. Godspeed.
@@coolbabe459It’s not right to criticize someone because of the “version” of scripture they read. I could just as easily say, you need to read the Geneva version of scripture which contains more than the KJV. It’s ok to only want to use the King James Version, but don’t think for one second that the Holy Spirit won’t be able to guide a person into truth just because they are reading a different version of scripture.
@@daddyio33 I understand that God will measure me in the same way I measure Pastors who use other versions of the bible for their teachings.
@@coolbabe459 So be it then.
Love from Namibia ❤
Amen 🙏🏻
I need this! Been dating for 20 years, 2 kids. Inlaws are crazy. Had to cut them off. Do not support our marriage! Well we're engaged now and their not invited!
Loved this one ❤
AMEN
What I notice from the families around me that get this wrong is that (almost universally) the issue with leaving lies with the wife, almost to the point where the husband becomes secondary. Wife marries a man but someone in her family often holds a higher position of authority and respect than her husband. The couple spends a lot of time with "her family," even if the husband doesn't want to. Time with his extended family is spent begrudgingly. On further observation you'll see that the things that the woman would disagree with the husband about wont be a disagreement with a male member of "her family." Its usually her "daddy" (grown women using that term drives me nuts). It might be her brother. It might be her grandfather. If her husband tries to show leadership and step into that spot at best he'll get resistance and resentment. This is why I wish churches preached more AT women than they do. If they resist biblical teaching from their husband they need to hear the truth from a 3rd party male that they respect.
Certainly this applies to men as well, the difference being that nobody stand's in defense of a mamma's boy. The whole world loves a daddy's girl. The bond needs to be broken, not celebrated.
Totally in agreement 👍🏽
Amen
You're telling my story. My wife never elaved and cleaved. Our whole life revolved around her family. She constantly spent all her time with them and asked them for everything. She always compared me to her dad and brothers saying I wasn't "a real man". Always emasculated me. When I told her to leave and cleave she flipped the script saying "you just want me all to yourself! You want to isolate me!" and called me a narcissist. I even took the issue to the church and they said "there's nothing sinful about spending time with parents. We have several families here that live with parents and there's no problems. The issues must be you". I was gaslit into oblivion on all sides. Were now divorced with a son. She ruined us. The church ruined us.
Why is it always present as the man not leaving and cleaving? I did. My wife never did. Her entire life revolved around her mom and dad. She spent all her time with them. Asked them for everything. Never went on trips or dates with me. Always went on trips and had dinners with them. I got sick of it and when I told her about it she left
We attended service today and it was amazing! My husband actually enjoyed it, which for me says something. We do have question though, did Pastor Mark say he had mai tais Hawaii? Just wondering his view on alcoholism.
How do you go from enjoying a drink on the beach to alcoholism? The original Christians did partake in wine at celebrations and such. I’m not sure it’s a sin until it crosses the line into drunkenness. That’s my understanding as of now.
@@abundantangel6376 as a former alcoholic I see what works for me is complete sobriety and to hear he drinks was a shock to me and my unsaved spouse, but not like I’m never listening to him again but I would like to hear more on it..and having a drink to going into alcoholism is easy, I’m not saying anyone is an alcoholic but I was one until recently a few years ago.
Yes he did. And if him and his wife are not an alcoholics, that's ok, Jesus drank wine. If him or his wife struggle with alcohol, then it would be wrong. I don't drink because my partner is a recovered alcoholic. For me to drink, it would be wrong but drinking is wrong as a whole.
@@sassyanne88 I don’t think I’ve heard a pastor preach and then Say he did that lol it was just something new to me.. I understood the context and that’s why I’m not bashing. That was new for me and it was a great sermon. My husband was glad to hear his sermon plainly spoken. We’ll be back for sure!
Drinking is not wrong as a whole. That is legalistic. Being DRUNK or high, is what is wrong. The action of having a glass of wine or a cocktail occasionally is NOT WRONG. Alcoholism and drunkenness IS. Jesus’s very first miracle was turning water into wine at a wedding celebration.
Leave it to Cleave Her 😊
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👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Was this a new sermon?
Can anyone help me understand if he said noodle event or nodal event I really wanna understand the word an the meaning .
Nodal
"America is a country of cut-offs..." Yes, but due to economic and logistical situations and not necessarily emotional reasons, particularly after the wars.
Your wife is beautiful🥰
For the algorithm
I don’t understand how he gets all this from a single bible verse
Satan is bright he deceive the third of the angels.
Go with Christ Jesus KJV, keep the seventh day Sabbath. And the other commandments.
Sooner the SUNday law come.
God bless.
Please all, do some research on this man before listening to any of his sermons. He is a narcissist who has left a trail of utter destruction behind him.
What AT ALL has he said that isn't true or biblical?
@@haleym020 I missed a word sorry💀, I'll edit it 😂😂😂
Why don’t you preach the gospel instead of trying to control humans with your propaganda..
Would you explain please? If you make claims without proof-then that is propaganda.