I received a comment from someone that doing the tongue stopping step caused some throat tension. If that’s something you are encountering, you might be pushing too hard. The point of that step is to bring the air to the aperture and feel the compression and energetic air that’s ready to be released on the next step.
Hey Ryan, I think you have the best technical information on TH-cam. This concept is definitely something that has caused some havoc throughout my career. I find it has this nefarious tendency to sneak up on me. I've noticed that my own students come to me with this problem also. Do you have any insight as to the physiological causes of this? I feel that it has to do with the point of intra-oral compression? A lot of teachers (band directors, specifically) teach to actively "open" the throat (as I was taught), I suspect that the opposite actually occurs, and that by artificially "opening" the throat, we are actually constricting the airway and dropping the back of the tongue so that compression is not maintained to the point of vibration? Am I on the right track with this?
I’m not sure if the airway gets constricted, but I think you’re on the right track. I picture it as the air is “further back” and harder to keep flowing, even if that’s not actually happening.
I agree with this somewhat. For me, who has struggled with a closed throat for many years, I find when things are not working I've noticed my tongue position working further back. Like when saying 'ich' (sorry Maggio). Learning KTM or anchor tonguing also heaps bring the tongue forward. I love this concept of thinking of bringing the air forward, so thankyou.
Hi Ryan! Thank you so much for your videos. They are easy to follow and bring about a lot of epiphanies. We met at SOI 5 or so years ago. This explanation is so great, I think you can market it to more musicians than just trumpet. I know a lot of woodwind players this explanation would immensely
The breath at the front of the mouth really helped with the connection between inhale and exhale for me. I was always told to breathe “deep and low” so my air and sound would feel stuck in my throat and I would tense up like crazy. With this I’m able to move the focus out front to my lips (which is where the action is actually happening) and it frees up the rest of my oral cavity for easier tongue arch, articulation, etc. and gives me a more resonant sound. When I put the focus on my lips and the muscles out front, I find that they are actually less tense than just “letting the air do the work” from down below and leaving my lips free to fall back on bad habits. Also, the step-by-step guide was super helpful and easy to follow! Presenting a specific pathway for exploring a concept and figuring out what works for you is so much more helpful than just stating the idealized end goal. Like you said, I can check myself at each one of these steps instead of just wondering whats going wrong after trying to jump right to the perfect technique. Keep up the great work! You’ve been killing it with these educational videos!
great video! It took time to figure out what you are actually doing, I'm still not sure if I have got it, but it feels good and I'll keep practicing. With minimal difference in effort taken to exert the air, it has taken my low notes from weak and delicate to strong and confident. You did a good job of describing the steps. It is very hard to describe how the tongue is while the air is pushing against the teeth.
Thanks. I’m glad you were willing to stick with it for a bit. I hope it becomes more and more solidified as you work with it. Over time, it’s fine if you develop your own way of thinking about it. These steps are a guide to help get things going, not necessarily the “right” way for everyone.
@@RyanBeachtrumpet would you compare the 'rush of air against your teeth' as like.... making a hiss sound but without actually pushing your tongue to the roof of your mouth to make the 's' sound. Instead you get the air rush of the 'h' and use your tongue somewhat arched against the bottom teeth to push the air forward, focusing on that fleshy part like you said. any part of that you disagree with? thanks
If I understand you correctly.. the tongue isn’t necessarily arched against the bottom teeth. But I think the rest of what you said makes sense. The fleshy part is where the pop happens. The rush of air against your teeth is not exactly what happens when you play, but is a useful cue to understand what forward air that is ready to be released feels like.
@@RyanBeachtrumpetinstead of arched on against the bottom teeth would you say its more lightly touching it. Other is it touching gum? Okay. So with the trumpet to mouth the air is gathering until you pop it with your tongue? Thanks for responding, its these nuanced clarifications that edge us closer to what you're truly sharing in the video.
I received a comment from someone that doing the tongue stopping step caused some throat tension. If that’s something you are encountering, you might be pushing too hard. The point of that step is to bring the air to the aperture and feel the compression and energetic air that’s ready to be released on the next step.
Excellent my man! Thank you
Hey Ryan, I think you have the best technical information on TH-cam. This concept is definitely something that has caused some havoc throughout my career. I find it has this nefarious tendency to sneak up on me. I've noticed that my own students come to me with this problem also. Do you have any insight as to the physiological causes of this? I feel that it has to do with the point of intra-oral compression? A lot of teachers (band directors, specifically) teach to actively "open" the throat (as I was taught), I suspect that the opposite actually occurs, and that by artificially "opening" the throat, we are actually constricting the airway and dropping the back of the tongue so that compression is not maintained to the point of vibration? Am I on the right track with this?
I’m not sure if the airway gets constricted, but I think you’re on the right track. I picture it as the air is “further back” and harder to keep flowing, even if that’s not actually happening.
I agree with this somewhat. For me, who has struggled with a closed throat for many years, I find when things are not working I've noticed my tongue position working further back. Like when saying 'ich' (sorry Maggio). Learning KTM or anchor tonguing also heaps bring the tongue forward. I love this concept of thinking of bringing the air forward, so thankyou.
This is such great knowledge that you provide here! Thank you very much!
My pleasure, I’m glad you found value with the video!
Hi Ryan! Thank you so much for your videos. They are easy to follow and bring about a lot of epiphanies. We met at SOI 5 or so years ago. This explanation is so great, I think you can market it to more musicians than just trumpet. I know a lot of woodwind players this explanation would immensely
I definitely remember you! I appreciate the support and the encouragement to branch out!
Been having some breakthroughs with this concept recently and you just cleared up a lot of the remaining confusion, thanks! :)
I’m glad it was helpful! If you don’t mind sharing what was helpful, I’d love the feedback.
The breath at the front of the mouth really helped with the connection between inhale and exhale for me. I was always told to breathe “deep and low” so my air and sound would feel stuck in my throat and I would tense up like crazy. With this I’m able to move the focus out front to my lips (which is where the action is actually happening) and it frees up the rest of my oral cavity for easier tongue arch, articulation, etc. and gives me a more resonant sound. When I put the focus on my lips and the muscles out front, I find that they are actually less tense than just “letting the air do the work” from down below and leaving my lips free to fall back on bad habits.
Also, the step-by-step guide was super helpful and easy to follow! Presenting a specific pathway for exploring a concept and figuring out what works for you is so much more helpful than just stating the idealized end goal. Like you said, I can check myself at each one of these steps instead of just wondering whats going wrong after trying to jump right to the perfect technique.
Keep up the great work! You’ve been killing it with these educational videos!
great video!
It took time to figure out what you are actually doing, I'm still not sure if I have got it, but it feels good and I'll keep practicing.
With minimal difference in effort taken to exert the air, it has taken my low notes from weak and delicate to strong and confident.
You did a good job of describing the steps. It is very hard to describe how the tongue is while the air is pushing against the teeth.
Thanks. I’m glad you were willing to stick with it for a bit. I hope it becomes more and more solidified as you work with it. Over time, it’s fine if you develop your own way of thinking about it. These steps are a guide to help get things going, not necessarily the “right” way for everyone.
@@RyanBeachtrumpet
would you compare the 'rush of air against your teeth' as like....
making a hiss sound but without actually pushing your tongue to the roof of your mouth to make the 's' sound. Instead you get the air rush of the 'h' and use your tongue somewhat arched against the bottom teeth to push the air forward, focusing on that fleshy part like you said.
any part of that you disagree with?
thanks
If I understand you correctly.. the tongue isn’t necessarily arched against the bottom teeth. But I think the rest of what you said makes sense. The fleshy part is where the pop happens. The rush of air against your teeth is not exactly what happens when you play, but is a useful cue to understand what forward air that is ready to be released feels like.
@@RyanBeachtrumpetinstead of arched on against the bottom teeth would you say its more lightly touching it. Other is it touching gum?
Okay. So with the trumpet to mouth the air is gathering until you pop it with your tongue?
Thanks for responding, its these nuanced clarifications that edge us closer to what you're truly sharing in the video.
Ryan, this is a fantastic video and I'm sending it to all my students! Thank you so much for creating such a valuable resource!
Thanks Tessa! I’m so glad you found it helpful.
Hi Ryan from Vietnam ! What is actually means of staccato? Because some people tell me it is very short then I need an aswer
Thanks
Staccato means separated, not short
@@RyanBeachtrumpet Thank you so much ⭐️
Totally agree 👍
This is an approach which can be used to help students who struggle with air before the sound when articulating, correct?
My hope is yes. Let me know if it does!
Great video! I am giving it a try. Just so I understand, when you get to the long tones are you tonguing them or doing a breath attack?
Tonguing. You want to play them “normally”, these steps will help you know what to focus on.
It's the tongue that's forward. The air will go through the aperture regardless of the tounge position.