Eh... not really even tho he does more damage it's from his 180 energy cost ult only even then jingliu is more consistent since she can keep using her enhanced skill especially with bronya who can make her go into spectral form immediately with jingliu skill -> bronya skill -> jingliu skill-> immediately gains spectral form and a turn immediately.
you should calculate the damage per turn or per cycle. If you only look at damage from screenshot, yes, Argenti has the most damage now due to his nuke at 180 ulti.
@@riiel3474 this is a very shallow input about wolf. not going to counter argue your first statement. but giving weakness to enemies is just one of the benefits that you can get from wolf. def shred is her most obvious benefit. while her intagibles is that you can save up stamina and jades. if you built a quantum carry like QQ or selee you must have a 4 pc quantum set. wolf can save you stamina because this 4pc could be equiped to a non quantum carry while paired to wolf. best example for this is jing liu and wolf. before i got jing liu, i was using wolf and QQ. QQ did indeed help me clear moc 10. but she was not always the answer in every moc 10. i used serval (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf , 4* dan heng (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf, sushang (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf, i too did kafka (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf when i still farming her 4pc lightning set. this is not optimal but viable. if you have a well built carry/dps, wolf can help you retain its value. for you not to need every dps character that will be released thus saving you alot of jades. there is a reason why wolf was heavily recommended to new players and not too much for older players. Yes wolf's value will diminish over time but wolf will help retain your dps value. PS. i came back here to tell, if someone was still planning to get wolf. just wait for ruan mei. XD
@@carlsenramzor9100 don't have huo huo It took 130 pull just to pull for Argentina not his LC...I didn't got his LC...I m the unluckiest man in HSR history...but I was not satisfied after getting argenti... So I was asking is he even good without his LC??
@@carlsenramzor9100 If he has Huohuo Blade might be better choice. Since he is asking to chose between characters, I assume he is f2p or low spender acc. In that case huohuo's wind element + penacony ornaments can boost blade a lot. Blade is also the most consistent damage dealer in the game, having 0 down time.
Ur goat dude. Actual f2p argenti. Bcs ither videos are dudes with argenti with breakfest but bronya e4, her lc, e6 tingyun on bp lc and fu xuan with sugnature as well. F2p my ass lol, if you use free lightcone that does not make ot f2p
He's not broken. Jingliu is broken, Argenti is just really good. He is pretty much physical JY, who, btw, can 0-cycle this moc with Huohuo, even though there is only 1 lightning weak enemy.
I don't even feel like jingliu is broken tbh, the only characters that feel like they deserve that title are bronya and probably fu xuan or huohuo. Nevertheless argenti is a great dps, probably on par with or slightly better than seele overall.
I've had the same sentiment when my himeko did 300k dmg with fu xuan, huohuo, and tingyun to support her. It's really just a matter of having great supports for your dps.@@zannax351
There are two categories TH-camrs put characters in to get more clicks. Broken or shit. As a F2p player I can say, each character has it's own play style. The rest just depends on your preferences. It's someone's own choice if they want to go meta only or play for fun.
Interesting. I wonder how he performs against enemies who do not have phys. weakness... Showcases like that can be deceiving, especially for erudition characters who can guard-brake 6-7 enemies and the dmg number shown is the total sum of everything. Looks big. Then you test them vs 1 boss enemy that doesn't have corresponding weakness and suddenly that number is cut tenfold... I hope that is not the case with Argenti.
so you're wondering if Argenti will work if you don't play the game correctly? this showcase isn't deceiving at all, its literally just playing against the corresponding element, they're playing how you're supposed to LMAO
@@numerowan69 You do realize that this is how we measure the power of dps units right? If element is perfect, then talking about performance is worthless. Can you give me an example of 1 dps 5 star character who can't clear against enemies with weakness to his element? Yeah that's what I thought. The question is, can the unit do more? Also this is not true, Jingliu can easily kill enemies without ice weakness, as long as she has her LC, even at s0
@@dannyeri IF by playing the game correctly you mean spend thousands of dollars to get every 5 star in the game for elemental coverage, then you are correct. Everything else you said is irrelevant. Every dps even 4 stars will do the same thing vs their elemental weakness...
@@numerowan69 You are still missing the point. Elemental coverage is a LUXURY, not a necessity, or at least it shouldn't be. It is a no-brainer that you bring the correct element dps, for the required content. The point is though most f2p or low spender accounts can not afford more than 2 dps-ers and the investment goes into supports so that they can make sure, they have a chance even without elemental coverage. Also at no point I said that Argenti is bad or not worth it. I just pointed out that showcases like that CAN (not are but can) be deceiving. You have the same problem with ppl showcasing dps in Genshin vs Baladeer weakened state or mechanical array weakened state, showing unrealistic numbers. It is the same thing. Also it is worth mentioning that the person from the video has very strong phys. set. Not many players will have 189% crit dmg on their Argenti...
@@zyfrythi agree my jing does no damage vs the frost elite bot but can kill the fire one in like 1-2 attacks seeing only the goodside will not be a proper test to his viability with other scenarios to see his overall performance not just his peak
imo he's great for multi enemies since that's erudition's job. But single target wise, JingYuan is better. JY sucks at multi enemies but great at single. My JY casually dealing 150k+ on single target with topaz and asta at 10 stack LL. No sign LC.
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031 yeah but when we compare him to argenti now when it comes on clearing or dealing damage on multi enemies, argenti is better bcos JY's fu damage splits randomly on the enemies while argenti's damage wasn't.
Jingliu mains are overwhelming toxic. Idk why they keep dragging other DPS characters down saying Jingliu deal more damage when it’s clearly that DHIL really solo that flop marastruck old hag.
2 cycles on a mostly 2 enemy setup? With no speed and no LC?
Argenti is better than I thought, and this is before the new mode is out.
The Chasm ost is amazing as always. And Argenti looks awesome
Impressive. He deals more damage than Jingliu... Maybe I'd have still lost my 50/50 if I went for him instead of sw but I regret not pulling for him
Eh... not really even tho he does more damage it's from his 180 energy cost ult only even then jingliu is more consistent since she can keep using her enhanced skill especially with bronya who can make her go into spectral form immediately with jingliu skill -> bronya skill -> jingliu skill-> immediately gains spectral form and a turn immediately.
you should calculate the damage per turn or per cycle. If you only look at damage from screenshot, yes, Argenti has the most damage now due to his nuke at 180 ulti.
Yep I REALLY regret pulling Silverwolf after seeing all of this. Built her with decent relics, not nearly as cracked up as they said she is.
@mp9104 problem with SW is she will fall off with time. Giving enemies weakness doesn't matter as much when you have a dps of ever element
@@riiel3474 this is a very shallow input about wolf. not going to counter argue your first statement. but giving weakness to enemies is just one of the benefits that you can get from wolf. def shred is her most obvious benefit. while her intagibles is that you can save up stamina and jades. if you built a quantum carry like QQ or selee you must have a 4 pc quantum set. wolf can save you stamina because this 4pc could be equiped to a non quantum carry while paired to wolf. best example for this is jing liu and wolf. before i got jing liu, i was using wolf and QQ. QQ did indeed help me clear moc 10. but she was not always the answer in every moc 10. i used serval (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf , 4* dan heng (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf, sushang (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf, i too did kafka (with 4pcs quantum set) + wolf when i still farming her 4pc lightning set. this is not optimal but viable. if you have a well built carry/dps, wolf can help you retain its value. for you not to need every dps character that will be released thus saving you alot of jades. there is a reason why wolf was heavily recommended to new players and not too much for older players. Yes wolf's value will diminish over time but wolf will help retain your dps value.
PS. i came back here to tell, if someone was still planning to get wolf. just wait for ruan mei. XD
my man will give erudition some hope
What ost is the last one?
Doesn't firmament better on him? or even salsotto(if u r focusing only on his ult).
Maybe if he's paired with Hanya? Idk actually
I mean to maximize the firmament buff
Firmament or Salsoto is better but sadly my only Phys DMG Sphere is on Rutilant set.
I have 150 CD in the stats. Don’t even know how to get god tier relics to go beyond that.
Argenti or Blade who should I pull for??
If u have huo huo, i recommend u to pull argenti.
Argenti (err rope), huo huo, tingyun
ur Argenti will ult every 2 turn 😂
@@carlsenramzor9100 don't have huo huo It took 130 pull just to pull for Argentina not his LC...I didn't got his LC...I m the unluckiest man in HSR history...but I was not satisfied after getting argenti... So I was asking is he even good without his LC??
@@bbachannel2917 he is pretty good.
My impression about him is "Not broken as jing liu, good enough like seele/Dan il"
@@bbachannel2917 talking about his LC, his sign S0 deal 25% more dmg against f2p pompom S5
Serval LC is the best option for him
@@carlsenramzor9100 If he has Huohuo Blade might be better choice. Since he is asking to chose between characters, I assume he is f2p or low spender acc. In that case huohuo's wind element + penacony ornaments can boost blade a lot. Blade is also the most consistent damage dealer in the game, having 0 down time.
ARGENTI MY SPIRIT ANIMAL!
bruh even my jingliu don't do this much dmg. tf
Weak jingliu main xD
@@encoun7er_ lmao yea don't play the game much
it's not about playing the game
Relic rng matters :)
@@encoun7er_ but wouldn't the relic rng only matter if i use my stamina daily lol
Don't worry my Jingliu also only hai 180cd not much really
why rutilant arena?
Ur goat dude. Actual f2p argenti. Bcs ither videos are dudes with argenti with breakfest but bronya e4, her lc, e6 tingyun on bp lc and fu xuan with sugnature as well. F2p my ass lol, if you use free lightcone that does not make ot f2p
I managed to get Silver Wolf AND Argenti!
Now I just have to get lucky with Ruan Mei...
Nice work. Damn that Hanya is beefy. 4k hp 0o
Who Is adrila he keeps saying. Or maybe am not listening right
Idrila aeon of beauty
@@hanan9807 new sim universe path
@@Carlotta_4041 no.The new simulated universe path in 1.6 will be Erudition.And Aeon of Erudition are Nous.Idrila are Aeon of Beauty
P. Idrila
He's not broken. Jingliu is broken, Argenti is just really good. He is pretty much physical JY, who, btw, can 0-cycle this moc with Huohuo, even though there is only 1 lightning weak enemy.
u know when every char just released all youtubers called video "OMG TOO BROKEN CHAR" or anything else
@@toxintea Well yeah, I guess.
I don't even feel like jingliu is broken tbh, the only characters that feel like they deserve that title are bronya and probably fu xuan or huohuo. Nevertheless argenti is a great dps, probably on par with or slightly better than seele overall.
I've had the same sentiment when my himeko did 300k dmg with fu xuan, huohuo, and tingyun to support her. It's really just a matter of having great supports for your dps.@@zannax351
There are two categories TH-camrs put characters in to get more clicks. Broken or shit. As a F2p player I can say, each character has it's own play style. The rest just depends on your preferences. It's someone's own choice if they want to go meta only or play for fun.
don't have him but he look very good but i must wait for Ruan mei 😬
Interesting. I wonder how he performs against enemies who do not have phys. weakness... Showcases like that can be deceiving, especially for erudition characters who can guard-brake 6-7 enemies and the dmg number shown is the total sum of everything. Looks big. Then you test them vs 1 boss enemy that doesn't have corresponding weakness and suddenly that number is cut tenfold... I hope that is not the case with Argenti.
so you're wondering if Argenti will work if you don't play the game correctly?
this showcase isn't deceiving at all, its literally just playing against the corresponding element, they're playing how you're supposed to LMAO
@@numerowan69 You do realize that this is how we measure the power of dps units right? If element is perfect, then talking about performance is worthless. Can you give me an example of 1 dps 5 star character who can't clear against enemies with weakness to his element? Yeah that's what I thought. The question is, can the unit do more? Also this is not true, Jingliu can easily kill enemies without ice weakness, as long as she has her LC, even at s0
@@dannyeri IF by playing the game correctly you mean spend thousands of dollars to get every 5 star in the game for elemental coverage, then you are correct. Everything else you said is irrelevant. Every dps even 4 stars will do the same thing vs their elemental weakness...
@@numerowan69 You are still missing the point. Elemental coverage is a LUXURY, not a necessity, or at least it shouldn't be. It is a no-brainer that you bring the correct element dps, for the required content. The point is though most f2p or low spender accounts can not afford more than 2 dps-ers and the investment goes into supports so that they can make sure, they have a chance even without elemental coverage. Also at no point I said that Argenti is bad or not worth it. I just pointed out that showcases like that CAN (not are but can) be deceiving. You have the same problem with ppl showcasing dps in Genshin vs Baladeer weakened state or mechanical array weakened state, showing unrealistic numbers. It is the same thing. Also it is worth mentioning that the person from the video has very strong phys. set. Not many players will have 189% crit dmg on their Argenti...
@@zyfrythi agree my jing does no damage vs the frost elite bot but can kill the fire one in like 1-2 attacks seeing only the goodside will not be a proper test to his viability with other scenarios to see his overall performance not just his peak
Are u really using seriousness of breakfast??😅
Don't underestimate Seriousness of Breakfast Lol its one of the better Erudition LC out there and its F2P.
How does he compare against JY?
imo he's great for multi enemies since that's erudition's job. But single target wise, JingYuan is better. JY sucks at multi enemies but great at single. My JY casually dealing 150k+ on single target with topaz and asta at 10 stack LL. No sign LC.
@@watermelon6439jy works both on aoe and st it’s just that his follow up is better st than aoe while his skill and ult is better in aoe than st
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031 yeah but when we compare him to argenti now when it comes on clearing or dealing damage on multi enemies, argenti is better bcos JY's fu damage splits randomly on the enemies while argenti's damage wasn't.
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031 I mean, JY's ulti and skill damage is kinda underwhelming.
Imo, Argenti is better just the fact he is Bronya-able unlike LL.
Jingliu mains are overwhelming toxic. Idk why they keep dragging other DPS characters down saying Jingliu deal more damage when it’s clearly that DHIL really solo that flop marastruck old hag.
Comparing at e0 DHIL solo
Wait till there wont be any phy weakness enemies in moc xd
Nah not broken at all.
Argenti is a scam.
Typical hater
imagine hating on a fictional character like you're being paid to do so
@@momonatics4life796Fr these people are starting to act like bots
@@momonatics4life796he is I pay him.