Welding Rod Damascus Knife, Forging Electrodes Blacksmithing and Knifemaking Project

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  • Forge welding a knife with 7018E welding electrodes. These welding rods are commonly used for mild steel arc welding applications. Today I'm going to incorporate a bunch of these rods into a super cool knife. The edge steel is 80CrV2 high carbon steel.
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  • @leemitchell3020
    @leemitchell3020 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    As a retired welder/steamfitter I always wondered about the stubs in my stub bucket. Tig wire has a coating of copper on all the carbon rods up to chrome rod and stainless rods. Stubs in a canister of 6010-5p+ and 7018 would give a nice pattern without the powder I'd think because 7018 is lighter in color and more malleable and your 5p+ is darker. Plus stubs are just going in the scrap barrel so why not.

    • @cameronlamb7274
      @cameronlamb7274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m pretty sure the wire is all the same it’s the flux composition that makes the difference and adds the different compounds in the puddle.

    • @joelhoughton2593
      @joelhoughton2593 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cameronlamb7274 you are correct the core electrode is trash steel loaded with impurities the flux contains deoxidizers slag formers and alloying elements to give the “as welded” mechanical properties noted in the classification 60xx 70xx etc

    • @xenuno
      @xenuno ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joelhoughton2593 "Trash steel" ? It's apparent you don't know much about welding rod. The flux is a deoxidizer and protects during fusion and cool down. That is by far it's main function. Yes you can have alloying agents in the flux but I would wager there is next to none in 7018. All the alloying agents are in the steel rod itself, which throws out your assertion of "trash"

    • @joelhoughton2593
      @joelhoughton2593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xenuno try knocking the flux off and using it as a tig rod… it is rim steel

    • @xenuno
      @xenuno ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joelhoughton2593 It is mild steel of high quality. The flux does more than I gave it credit for as the core rod for 6010 and 7018 apparently are the same composition.

  • @kingscorpion7346
    @kingscorpion7346 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I can honestly say: I have seen a lot of bladesmith videos, starting with Forged In Fire, and others, and I was a welder when I served in the Navy, but not once did I ever think that welding rods could be forged into a blade! that's one of the reasons I love watching these videos; the creativity and artistry that goes into bladesmithing!

  • @marksindustries567
    @marksindustries567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally , someones videos who are simple,imformative , and enjoyable. No ad derailing is so appreciated

  • @Wonderboy46Z
    @Wonderboy46Z วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m so glad you actually forged the tip, not cut the tip in like all these other TH-cam crap blademakers. They don’t know the “why” you should forge not cut on the tips and the entire blade and tang. They don’t realize they are putting stress risers in the grain. Bunch of ignorant copycats or wannabe’s is all they are. A forged tip and tang will ALWAYS be stronger than any cut in.

  • @jefferythomas4414
    @jefferythomas4414 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coat hangers and welding rod are one and the same material. That's a dirty little secret that could have saved you a lot of time and money.

  • @fpscoco
    @fpscoco 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    World needs more man like you. God bless you. Keep up the good work!

  • @_Merica_USA
    @_Merica_USA ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have watched a lot of forging videos and this one is by far the most detailed, great job 👍

  • @Dooncat
    @Dooncat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would definitely buy it for my wife!

  • @scottames2334
    @scottames2334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome and I love the Appeal to Heaven Flag!

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly this has a pretty good example of why edge geometry matters.better than most anyway

  • @ericjenkin7461
    @ericjenkin7461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok I'll have to come back but the drill trick at beginning is cool I can already see it coming in handy, thanks

  • @breakawaybooks4752
    @breakawaybooks4752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:50 the welded billet is literally loose inside of the cannister! That white paint never ceases to amaze me.

  • @shepardsforgeh2031
    @shepardsforgeh2031 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the olive drab handle that screams jungle blade!

  • @meninoandrade9833
    @meninoandrade9833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the pattern it's very clear and too forging. good kitchen knife tnx

  • @jeffreywhitmoyer860
    @jeffreywhitmoyer860 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In many cases, the core in 7018 is a low carbon iron rather than mild steel. I believe Carbon in a 7018 deposit is on the order of 0.07% max. Also, in addition to the deoxidizers in the coating the manganese content is picked up from the coating. Most stick rods get the alloy content from the coating. Basically, the electrode really only provided bulk to the mix and dilution of the 1084. E70S-6 tig rod would contribute a little more Carbon and 1+% manganese to the alloy. This would slightly improve hardenability to the body of the blade and a little extra toughness. E70S rod is available without copper coating. INE and Midalloy should have it available. Working from memory on this since I retired a few years ago, but confident in being generally correct.

  • @jml6802
    @jml6802 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Im a welder, when I saw this I was definitely intrigued. Great work man.

  • @stephenjohnson6841
    @stephenjohnson6841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pattern turned out beautiful. I really like the looks of this knife! That's for sharing Elijah!

  • @robertm348
    @robertm348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Damascus pattern!

  • @joebourke1018
    @joebourke1018 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome job, I have lots of knives and one Damascus knife that I rarely use. I like that knife, I think it's art I should get a case for it 😂.

  • @NeverlostatBSgaming
    @NeverlostatBSgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful knife and beautiful beard

  • @rosstisbury1626
    @rosstisbury1626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better lookn than I expected. . Thanks for the vid

  • @donnelhuddleston2478
    @donnelhuddleston2478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learn something new everyday, I didn't even know what kind of metal welding rods were made from.

  • @jad6126
    @jad6126 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That turned out really really nice. Thanks for another great video.

  • @Hamit_HMT
    @Hamit_HMT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice.
    Too close to 100K. 👏👏👏

  • @eddybarker5072
    @eddybarker5072 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Super nice pattern on this one! I really appreciate you providing tips as you go such as how to forge the San mai core around the tip and how to fix the edge geometry when it didn’t pass the first test before thinking the heat treat failed. Great video!

  • @mrmongo6722
    @mrmongo6722 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Need to get some big old beefy 2024 rods in there mixed in with some 6010 along with those 7018!!!!🍻

  • @TheRich4187
    @TheRich4187 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bet making a smaller diameter dowel making jig would have ripped that flux right off. Just attach a drill to the end and run it through a couple times.

    • @northernmetalworker
      @northernmetalworker ปีที่แล้ว

      I put mine in a drill, then run them against a wire wheel on a bench grinder.

  • @LastShelter-tb3wn
    @LastShelter-tb3wn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the way from South Africa I really enjoy your builds thanks for sharing!

  • @aaronpreston47
    @aaronpreston47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you line the canister with burnt stainless foil it will pop off even easier. But the paint worked great.
    (Burnt stainless foil is just regular stainless foil oxidized with a torch or forge)

    • @FireCreekForge
      @FireCreekForge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've used the foil in the past, but I prefer the paint

    • @aaronpreston47
      @aaronpreston47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FireCreekForge good stuff, whatever works best for you!

  • @tokus64
    @tokus64 ปีที่แล้ว

    A beautiful knife without a beautiful sheath is just an addition to the scrapmetals in your shop.

  • @martyparsons8395
    @martyparsons8395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That turned out really nice! Im a big fan of the san mai edge with damascus patterns! Very cool!

  • @cameronwilkinson7972
    @cameronwilkinson7972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as a welder, i clicked onto this video and my initial thought was "what a waste of 7018's'' but by god was i wrong...

  • @selador11
    @selador11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Next up... USE the rods. Build up a huge pile of weld. Then use that pile of weld, as your starting block...

  • @neilsimpson79
    @neilsimpson79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched another creator do this recently but he welded the cleaned electrodes together and went hammer happy with the flux

  • @Zeechit
    @Zeechit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    still love your work and the way you explain what you are doing and why you did it.

  • @garywhen1
    @garywhen1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome work

  • @cseevers1188
    @cseevers1188 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok. I’m only like 5 minutes into this video….I’ve seen several forging/blacksmithing videos, and let me just say…I really appreciate the explanation of what you’re doing. The process is very interesting but most of these videos just show the forging and don’t actually explain anything. This is great.

  • @AndyFromBeaverton
    @AndyFromBeaverton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The laddering really did add to creating a nice pattern.

  • @mikeharris2359
    @mikeharris2359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely beautiful work I love Damascus knives and axes great to see such good forge work good 💯💯💯

  • @rpandocchi
    @rpandocchi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent forging skills!

  • @hulkthedane7542
    @hulkthedane7542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice pattern, and ditto knife. 👍

  • @bobgore1962
    @bobgore1962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knife came out great, Elijah! Really enjoy watching your videos! Thanks for sharing my brother! 😎👍🏻🔨🔥🔪

  • @timothyvaughn1451
    @timothyvaughn1451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for shielding your welding

  • @blackhammerartisan
    @blackhammerartisan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you are the king of canister.

  • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
    @NOTSOSLIMJIM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the future, stick them in the oven at 550° for an hour. The flux dries out and comes off more easily.

    • @dolphincliffs8864
      @dolphincliffs8864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't work like that for 7018,if it did my flux would have fallen off ages ago,my 7018 rods stay in the oven.

    • @NOTSOSLIMJIM
      @NOTSOSLIMJIM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dolphincliffs8864 yeah, only been welding for 20 years. You put them in a heater at between 150-200°f to keep them dry. When you crank the heat up, it hardens the flux making it easier to knock off.

    • @dolphincliffs8864
      @dolphincliffs8864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NOTSOSLIMJIM Yep,sure as heck wouldn't set the oven to 550!
      I kept all the half burnt rods from school too,kids love wasting consumables. Went to welding school last year in January at age 51. Wanted to learn smaw.

  • @PaulSmith-zi3sn
    @PaulSmith-zi3sn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate the explanation as your video plays... thx, excellent job and beautiful knife !!!

  • @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG
    @Kratos_God_of_50_BMG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great pattern! That's quite the choppa you got there, well done 👍🏽

  • @shaungreen679
    @shaungreen679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the beard id majestic

  • @edwinlawrence1299
    @edwinlawrence1299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another job well done, looks amazing. I wanted to buy it, but I got a chance at getting on your books today. Someone else will get to enjoy it.

  • @Warhawk76
    @Warhawk76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a beautiful knife! Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @metubewot
    @metubewot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    loved it, and thanks for the tips.

  • @TalRohan
    @TalRohan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cool, the etch difference is amazing.

  • @sunburstworx
    @sunburstworx ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a great Knife Project, thanks for sharing! Nice to see it done right instead of those channels that fake it

  • @Horacio-Lorenzo
    @Horacio-Lorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good work, beautiful Damascus steel knife. I am fascinated by the creation of forged knives. I send you a big hug and blessings for you and your family from Buenos Aires Argentina

  • @cybermechx
    @cybermechx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks Great !!

  • @robertr4193
    @robertr4193 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The pattern in the steel looks almost like a cross between a Cable Damascus and a rain drop pattern. Looks good.

  • @ryanblystone5153
    @ryanblystone5153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @timvanboening9432
    @timvanboening9432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That came out beautiful!

  • @rabbitnoise
    @rabbitnoise ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now that's a knoif!

  • @user-gh5tp3es4u
    @user-gh5tp3es4u ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clean the rods with a wire wheel, cleans them super fast

  • @andymason703
    @andymason703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful knife

  • @lukelofgren4108
    @lukelofgren4108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That turned out awesome!

  • @ronaldrvvanhook1437
    @ronaldrvvanhook1437 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen this done with a rods in a vise and twisted/folded

  • @eulerizeit
    @eulerizeit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the subtlety of the pattern

  • @RichValentine1972
    @RichValentine1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That turned out really nice.

  • @HeavyForge
    @HeavyForge ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That came out looking awesome!! Btw love the grinding room! I need to that.

  • @forneyind
    @forneyind ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the final results!

  • @ronland1821
    @ronland1821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That turned out great 👍.

  • @matthewdancik5515
    @matthewdancik5515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That turned out so dope! This may sound controversial, but I'm not a huge fan of pattern welded steel blades, however, I love how the pattern turned out on this blade. Nicely done, Elijah!!!!

  • @johngrund2567
    @johngrund2567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you did a great job with the knife, and the video.

  • @maniachill3069
    @maniachill3069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I'd like to see a video where you make a good, heavy base that will hold your vise so it is solid, instead of moving all over the place when using it.

    • @texanonline1244
      @texanonline1244 ปีที่แล้ว

      just get a big truck rim. weld in riser, fill with concrete. problem is you cant move it around

  • @wysestone
    @wysestone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting, came out almost like a raindrop pattern damascus. well done

  • @Jbrooks1219
    @Jbrooks1219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me and my friends are wasted because we had to drink every time you said the word ubiquitous

  • @duanebennett2961
    @duanebennett2961 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful work!!

  • @luludzulu8431
    @luludzulu8431 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marvelous work !! Congratulations !!

  • @JSaltyfabricator
    @JSaltyfabricator ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work!
    I've seen people asking about keeping the flux on the rods to help with the forge welding. Definitely a no no.
    The flux on welding rods will result in glass like inclusions in the weld. Flux has to be removed prior to making another pass when building up welds in structural settings. If the flux is not removed, you get inclusions and your weld could very well fail inspection.
    Would not make a good blade.

  • @tonylyons5487
    @tonylyons5487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again u killed thanks for sharing it with us all

  • @chrisordiway7203
    @chrisordiway7203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very unique looking pattern, I like it!

  • @ben-me9jy
    @ben-me9jy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea thanks

  • @monroesweldingservices6234
    @monroesweldingservices6234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow when u use metal u do it with amazing creativity and damn nice to look at and very functional you truely are a master of your craft

  • @bruceb51
    @bruceb51 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a beautiful chopper

  • @mcbarber5108
    @mcbarber5108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another awesome knife!

  • @andrewward8954
    @andrewward8954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done
    Great work
    😊

  • @AstraOG
    @AstraOG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wonder if its possible to get a geometric pattern on damascus by filling a canister with a bunch of small steel tetrahedrons. I know little to nothing about forging, but i think a geometric damascus blade would be awesome.

  • @ultratorrent
    @ultratorrent ปีที่แล้ว

    San mai steel for life!

  • @mh_vegas
    @mh_vegas ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool idea and beautiful work!

  • @joelambert-barnett566
    @joelambert-barnett566 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video as always!
    Absolutely love the shape to this blade, looks a classic shape (if it ain’t broke don’t fix it kind of thing) and brilliant choice of handle material. Can really see this being used in the bush.

  • @RobertRider-is9di
    @RobertRider-is9di ปีที่แล้ว

    BRILLIANT!!!

  • @Barncat01
    @Barncat01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet a stoody hard facing welding rod would be some good rods to do this with. They do air harden very easy the the material they are made of us hardenable. Maybe something to think of. Love your videos!!

  • @edwardchance2543
    @edwardchance2543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing subscribed

  • @rodgerklindt3165
    @rodgerklindt3165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool project,,, as usual 😎

  • @dalerose1694
    @dalerose1694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOWED again It’s a Beautiful knife

  • @maddon001
    @maddon001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice looking blade, good job man.

  • @kevinchristensen9672
    @kevinchristensen9672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always a great video and a very commendable end product. Fantastic work!

  • @moobaz8675
    @moobaz8675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. Great skills

  • @jeremybanks719
    @jeremybanks719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a few pounds of some old black rods. From what I remember half was a high nickel rod for hard surfacing. Remembered it was hell to grind even with a hard stone, hardly and spark and just scratches on the bead. I beared down hatd on the hand grinder n it was bogging. Not a cheap 1 either. Think was marked atlas on some of them. Got some old bluish green coated rods, heavy flux on them to. Ill have to get out to garage n take a look. Got a few chrome molly rods and sure some for stainless. Been some years since I looked at these. They'd need to be ovened before used to weld wonder how they would work

  • @bradleach4947
    @bradleach4947 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work!

  • @manfredseidel1413
    @manfredseidel1413 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sehr schönes Messer & danke für das schöne Video 👍

  • @mattwood5869
    @mattwood5869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work! Beautiful knife. I subd after watching this. Keep them coming!

  • @jimmychastain8162
    @jimmychastain8162 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If drill a hole in a piece of steel the same size as the welding rod steel then just chuck the bear end in a drill and push it through the hole you drilled and all the flux comes off leaving clean rod