@@realparsHi sir, i have one question. When the input ( ac 220v) rectifier with dioda bride it become to 310v DC right. But my pmsm motor only aceptable of 200v max. So how to step down the voltage sir?? Iam still confiusd on this hardware. Thank u.@mata
@@realparsHi sir, i have one question. When the input ( ac 220v) rectifier with dioda bride it become to 310v DC right. But my pmsm motor only aceptable of 200v max. So how to step down the voltage sir?? Iam still confiusd on this hardware. Thank u.@mata
This is why TH-cam is becoming a good source of knowledge.... Especially with creators like you. Please discuss the difference between a VFD and a IGBT-VVVF electric drive in a future video....and whether EVs with asynchronous traction motors use VFD....or IGBT VVVF drives....
When capacitor is not fully charged the precharging circuit is presented in the picture inorder to avoid inrush currents at supply. For this purpose a current limiting circuit is made through a resistor, now dc current will flows through this resistor and yet this time capacitor starts charging. Once capacitor gets full charge then this DC current will by-pass through contact. What a lecture Sir 👍 really great work you have done thank you 😊😊
Errors: (1) Current transformer T3 (3:16) is shown monitoring current on all three incoming phases. That means it will read zero unless there is earth leakage and that would have nothing to do with T1 and T2. (2) The check valves (8:34) are upside down. They will prevent current flowing in the direction of the diode arrows in the neighbouring schematic.
Thank you so mu h for your informative videos. I remember when I was still on my apprenticeship programme when I used to watch your videos on PLC's, drives, sensors, etc. I learned a lot and people thought I was very smart😂😂
I can't make sense of the pre-charge circuit at 6:15. Disregarding resistances in wiring it looks like it's shorted so any current would just go through the bottom branch straight to the low-pass filter. K1 doesn't seem to do much. What am I missing?
R is used to pre-charge the capacitor bank. Once the capacitors are charged, K1 should close, thereby by-passing R. When K1 is closed, current will flow through K1 preferentially, since it is the path of least resistance. If the motor starts and draws current for too long through R, the thermostat will trip and stop the motor. Internal circuitry is used to determine when K1 should close. The actual circuits are much more complex than what is shown, but the diagram in the video helps illustrate these concepts.
@@realpars When K1 is open, there are 2 paths : one with R and one with nothing on it (the bottom one). So, on your drawing, the current should only go to the bottom one and not through R. I don't understand why the current can go to 2 different paths at the same time (6:18). Maybe the bottom line should not be here and instead only R or K1 ?
@@idealdonor exactly I was searching for one comment that notice this problem, basically de line under the pre-charge resistor shouldn’t be there because is a short circuit, if you remove it now you can see a utility for the K1 contact that is if the capacitor is charge to some level now we can close K1 making the other path for the current killing the R pre-charging. Every nice video some times little details that needs to be fix but we have the comments section to discuss!
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Thanks for your invaluable explanation.I really like the concept of VFD but just didn't grasp the theoretical knowledge as I should... great job and I eagerly waiting for part 2.
Hi Jorge, Thanks for your comment! We currently only provide our course videos in English, you are always able to turn on the English subtitles as that might make it a bit easier for you. Our apologies for any inconvenience! Happy learning!
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You are correct, and the video should have said, "The capacitors begin to charge with current that passes through the resistors". This allows the capacitors to charge at a slower, controlled rate.
Around 6:10, why is there a line drawn underneath the thermometer? It seems that by doing so, you short-circuit the pre-charge circuit, rendering it useless... or am I misunderstanding/misinterpreting something?
Hello, @tijsclaerhout2384 . Thank you for your question. If you are asking about the thermostat, this is a NO contact. When you have high heat, it will open. Happy learning from REALPARS!
isn't there a mistake at 6:14 it seems to me your short circuiting your charge up resistor. (or what u wanna call it?) there for still getting a peak current that could possibly damage the input device? correct me if i'm mistaken here. greetings, thanks for the informational video btw
Hi Tom, thank you for your question. This is a simplified block diagram illustrating the basic concept within this circuit. Please note that in reality, the circuit is far more intricate than what we present here. The resistor in use is of a high value and wattage, designed to limit the flow of current to a predetermined safe level. This feature prevents the resistor from overheating or burning up. Instead, the current naturally follows the path of least resistance. We hope this explanation clarifies the information for you. Should you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask. We appreciate your engagement and wish you continued learning and growth with RealPars!
@@realpars I know, but even if you work with equivalent values instead of the real circuit. it still should be an open circuit. now you have a parallel short circuit drawn with no switch whatsoever. which means 0 amps will flow through the 'safety' part of your circuit at any given tim? could u please look at the screenshot at 6:14 ?
So, if the resistor portion of the VFD is faulty - power can go to the motor for a brief time, until it overheats and ground fault occurs... despite not being called upon?
Hello. @CrystalElliott-m2e. Thank you for your question. You have a very good question. These drives are designed with safe internal smart sensors to check for current, voltage, and frequency failures. Therefore, if what you say happens, the drive will normally announce a failure, a fault signal will be sent or displayed, and the drive will safely shut down to avoid major damage. Happy learning from RealPars!
another question please and thank u what kind of filter we use after the rectifier low pass or high pass or tape pass and why thank u sirI really appreciate ur efforts to give the best
It would be considered a low-pass filter. The filter section of the VFD uses capacitors & an inductor to filter the voltage & current. The capacitors have a pre-charge circuit that allows the capacitors to reach full charge slowly so that they are not damaged. A set of resistors is provided to discharge the capacitors anytime power is removed. The filter allows the pulsing DC voltage to be changed to pure DC.
Hi! I love your videos and hope that you will keep up with the good work. I only have one question; isn't the symbol for the one-way valve in hydraulic system suppose to be the other way around? I am pretty sure that it works by pushing the ball. :P
Hey there.. I bought a VFD for my home CNC Router build. The one I got is a 3 phase 380V 1.5KW VFD.. After getting it I began to realise there was a 1 phase VFD too. I'm very lost atm guys.. Cam I use this 3 phase VFD for my home build CNC? This is all new to me so plz excuse the silly moronic questions from myself,, I would very much appreciate ur help if possible, Thanks for a brilliant video. I'm 50 yrs of age now and only just beginning my learning experience with programming, CNC's Arduino's, etc.. I lovelearning all of this stuff about electronics, etc but I really need a lotta help. I'm hoping these tutorials cAN BE THAT BRIDGE FOR ME,, Thanks for the knowledge. I will be heading over to the wenbsite asap as well now..
Your home wiring is 1-phase. You will need a 1-phase VFD. These can be purchased in either 120VAC or 240VAC versions. I would go with a 240VAC VFD. If you do not have a spare 240VAC outlet, I suggest hiring an electrician to install one in the vicinity where you need it. A CNC machine will consume significant power, so a separate, properly sized circuit will be required. Unfortunately, your 3-phase VFD cannot be used. You may wish to return it or offer it for sale on eBay or another resale platform. OK, the other thing you need to consider before doing any of the above is to determine what your CNC machine requires. If it requires 3-phase power, then you will have another issue since you will not be able to connect it at home at all without special equipment. In this case, you may want to consider purchasing a gasoline powered 3-phase generator that you use specifically for the CNC machine. This will work, but be prepared to spend >$2000.
So what happens when u have 277/480 three phase system that’s running too high like at 497 . And u have voltage imbalance? Will it just only be sending a signal on the highest phase to ground voltage and therefore the vfd not work properly? Or does a vfd clean it up somehow? Just got the IQ1000 outdoor box haven’t hooked up power to it yet. We need to slow the pump down it’s pumping more gallons per minute than the well can provide
Thank you for your question. The compatibility with a high leg largely depends on the VFD itself. Typically, a VFD operates by converting incoming AC voltage to DC using a rectifier, then utilizing IGBT to produce the required AC frequency and current via PWM modulation. While some VFDs may accommodate a high leg, it's often advisable, as per the manual, to connect power through a constant voltage transformer before supplying it to the VFD. This setup generally offers a more robust engineering solution. Happy learning!
Should we use VFD and Contactor at the same time??? I'm a beginner learning curve of VFD. Please kindly to share your experiences. Thanks. From Cambodia.
they can be used both to switch on a motor...the start external terminals of the vfd are connected to the NO of the contactor while the contactor coil is connected to the start button...so when you press the start button the contactor NO contacts closes and thus gives command to vfd to start motor
Hello. The vfd does not need a contactor, the vfd has all the necessary components for easy control. You just need to carefully read the instructions for connection
There are many applications that involve contactors and VFDs used on the same equipment. They are application specific though. Are you asking about the pre charge contactor shown in the video or are you asking about contactors in general?
At 6:55 it’s stated that the resistor divides the voltage between the two capacitors. I’m sure you mean two (2) resistors divide it since one will do nothing. Also, I’m not sure why this detail is important to this video. The only reason for two or more capacitors in series and their requisite dividing resistors is because it MAY be difficult to have a single capacitor with the appropriate voltage rating available for the design. This has absolutely nothing to do with understanding the operation of a VFD and just adds pointless, possibly confusing information to the explanation. The same thing could be present in the rectifier section also for the same reason but, it’s equally unimportant to the subject of the video.
Thank you very Much.. Excellent video.. I think part 2 will be more interesting . I kindly request please make vedio regarding motor starting Current of different starting methods. I will hope your good response.. Thanks again. 👍
Thank you for your question. Sorry for the confusion. The check valve flow is in the downward direction for the check valve to work. The voice-over person stated that the pictures show the check valves will shut down in the direction of the arrows shown. And in the down direction of the flow is when they work. Sorry, but it was not clearly shown but explained correctly.
for troubleshooting purposes suppose the drive is stopped intentionally, Will i read full DC voltage across the bus capacitor when stopped???? You show a single current coil on the input to the drive, if you only have one coil wouldn't that work like a GFCI if all is proper zero net current? Or is that a totally different concept in 3 phase?
When a motor that is controlled by a VFD stops, current is not allowed to pass to the motor. However, the capacitors are still charged, but will slowly drain. It is something to know about so that you don't put yourself at risk. The current transformer is used to measure current. Many times, for a balanced circuit, a single sensor is used. the current draw through each of the three phases should be similar. The current transformer is different from a GFCI, although both measure current flow. In a GFCI, the transformer looks for an imbalance of current between Hot and Neutral, indication a potential fault condition between H and N.
Using a 6-pulse rectifier is used to rectify a 3-phase circuited (2 diodes per phase) to DC voltage. This type of rectifier is useful for this purpose in a VFD. The 6-pulse rectifier is also useful for circuits in 24VDC power supplies.
Yes, but this is recommended only for inverter-duty motors. A 3600 RPM motor can only be run safely at up to 75Hz. An 1800 RPM motor can only be safely operated at up to 120 Hz. However, as speed increases above 60 Hz, torque will be reduced, so in some applications, overspeeding the motor will not be helpful.
Plz explain if VFDs can be used to control DC motors... Can they work without the ac dc converter and the igbt section...to convert back dc to ac output in case of controlling dc motors....
Think of IGBT's as power switching transistors. The VFD regulates the DC voltage at the collector of the IGBT. The switching circuit fires the gate of the IGBT to allow current to flow to the emitter. By use of a control circuit, the frequency, polarity, and duration of being in the "on" position (pulses) can be controlled. This is how the VFD inverter section is able to recreate a sine wave output at the frequency required by the application from the DC output of the rectifier.
Yes, this is correct. The sine wave for each phase is 120-degree out of phase with the other phases. This arrangement provides greater power density than a one-phase circuit at the same amperage, keeping wiring size and costs lower.
As far as You know, Sir, are anode and cathode different in biology? I'm pretty sure to remember anode is (‐) and cathode is (+). Does it make any difference?
These definitions can be a little tricky, and definitely confusing, depending on the context. Cathodes get their name from cations (positively charged ions) and anodes from anions (negatively charged ions). However, in a device that uses electricity, the cathode is the negatively charged electrode (attracts electrons). In a device that produces power the cathode is the positive terminal ("produces" electrons).
Hi @Mohamed. There are a few videos we've already posted that you might be interested in. th-cam.com/video/B65detMhnoc/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/oyaItbhqoW0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Arjun, Thank you for your question! In reality, the picture we show on the input side represents current transformers. We really have one for each phase. For simplicity, we just show one current transformer. Sorry if it was confusing. On the output side, we show two again for simplicity, but most likely, we have three. One for each phase. This is done to protect the VFD in case of IGBT failure. Here is a link to the drive application manual for your review. support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/5824404/siemens-standard-drives-application-handbook?dti=0&lc=en-US Happy learning!
That depends on the motor and the load it is controlling. Normally, the answer is yes, as VFDs are able to develop strong torque at lower speeds. However, running at low speed for long periods of time can cause motor heating and other problems.
Single-phase motors can be controlled with a single-phase VFD. A simple rheostat will also work pretty well and is much less expensive than a single-phase VFD. However, the VFD can be connected to and controlled from a PLC, whereas a rheostat must be controlled manually.
Control within the VFD is generally regarded as open loop control. I do not recommend using the internal PID control (if available) since improper setup or application can cause the speed to "hunt and wander". Data is generally not collected internally, but there is usually a set of parameters that can be set by the engineer to control and characterize its operation. Some complex drives can have hundreds of settable parameters. Data that is stored in a VFD automatically includes diagnostic data, such as the last ten fault codes or maximum temperature reached.
Not exactly. There are DC motors and DC VFDs, but that is not what this video is showing. A VFD used with an AC motor needs to change the frequency of the AC current. There is no electronic device to do this directly. Therefore, the incoming AC current is rectified (converted to DC), and then the resulting DC voltage on the DC bus is inverted, using IGBTs or other devices, back to an AC voltage having a different frequency from the incoming voltage. This process also affects the AC voltage level so that there is a constant V/Hz ratio.
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@@realparsHi sir, i have one question.
When the input ( ac 220v) rectifier with dioda bride it become to 310v DC right. But my pmsm motor only aceptable of 200v max. So how to step down the voltage sir?? Iam still confiusd on this hardware. Thank u.@mata
@@realparsHi sir, i have one question.
When the input ( ac 220v) rectifier with dioda bride it become to 310v DC right. But my pmsm motor only aceptable of 200v max. So how to step down the voltage sir?? Iam still confiusd on this hardware. Thank u.@mata
This is why TH-cam is becoming a good source of knowledge.... Especially with creators like you. Please discuss the difference between a VFD and a IGBT-VVVF electric drive in a future video....and whether EVs with asynchronous traction motors use VFD....or IGBT VVVF drives....
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When capacitor is not fully charged the precharging circuit is presented in the picture inorder to avoid inrush currents at supply. For this purpose a current limiting circuit is made through a resistor, now dc current will flows through this resistor and yet this time capacitor starts charging. Once capacitor gets full charge then this DC current will by-pass through contact. What a lecture Sir 👍 really great work you have done thank you 😊😊
Our pleasure! Glad to hear that our lessons have been helpful. Happy learning!
This is a great first video on drives. I'm looking forward to the second part.
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Am also waiting for second part first part I s very liberal and am very easily understand the topic thankyou sir
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Errors: (1) Current transformer T3 (3:16) is shown monitoring current on all three incoming phases. That means it will read zero unless there is earth leakage and that would have nothing to do with T1 and T2. (2) The check valves (8:34) are upside down. They will prevent current flowing in the direction of the diode arrows in the neighbouring schematic.
The first item you pointed out is correct. The CT "donut" should be placed around a single phase only, with only 1 to all 3 phases monitored.
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Excellent Video and Explanation as always! I think these VFD series are going to be amazing to get acquainted. Thanks Real Pars!
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Thank you so mu h for your informative videos. I remember when I was still on my apprenticeship programme when I used to watch your videos on PLC's, drives, sensors, etc. I learned a lot and people thought I was very smart😂😂
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I can't make sense of the pre-charge circuit at 6:15. Disregarding resistances in wiring it looks like it's shorted so any current would just go through the bottom branch straight to the low-pass filter. K1 doesn't seem to do much. What am I missing?
R is used to pre-charge the capacitor bank. Once the capacitors are charged, K1 should close, thereby by-passing R. When K1 is closed, current will flow through K1 preferentially, since it is the path of least resistance. If the motor starts and draws current for too long through R, the thermostat will trip and stop the motor. Internal circuitry is used to determine when K1 should close. The actual circuits are much more complex than what is shown, but the diagram in the video helps illustrate these concepts.
@@realpars When K1 is open, there are 2 paths : one with R and one with nothing on it (the bottom one). So, on your drawing, the current should only go to the bottom one and not through R. I don't understand why the current can go to 2 different paths at the same time (6:18). Maybe the bottom line should not be here and instead only R or K1 ?
@@idealdonor exactly I was searching for one comment that notice this problem, basically de line under the pre-charge resistor shouldn’t be there because is a short circuit, if you remove it now you can see a utility for the K1 contact that is if the capacitor is charge to some level now we can close K1 making the other path for the current killing the R pre-charging.
Every nice video some times little details that needs to be fix but we have the comments section to discuss!
I am really happy to say that this is the first time I am viewing the video on this electro-machanical subject ! Thanks for making this video !
Please send some more videos on this subject
I know Diods ,Triods ,Triacs , and power amplifier transistors having safty diods cnected acriss Collector and emitter junctions ! 👍THANKS
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Thanks for your invaluable explanation.I really like the concept of VFD but just didn't grasp the theoretical knowledge as I should... great job and I eagerly waiting for part 2.
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Sir great. Please need more episode.sir please explain how to programe vFD.at least need one lecture on LENZE and Mitshubishi vfd🤗
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Really clear explanation and easy to understand. Thanks and do a lot of videos.
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Excelente video, no pierdo la esperanza de que les pongan la voz y el texto en español
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Very great explanation for me a junior engineer!
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Amazing VFD explained...so cool
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So helpful. I was wondering this last 2 days ago and forgot to search it up. Then it appeared on my feed.🎉
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Their videos are excellent lessons with a wealth of amazing information, a lot of detail and quality standard to admire.
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Good video. Can anyone tell please @6:17 of the video (DC link), how resistors will charge the capacitor?
Thanks.
You are correct, and the video should have said, "The capacitors begin to charge with current that passes through the resistors". This allows the capacitors to charge at a slower, controlled rate.
@@realpars Thanks for the clarification. Keep it up.
Excellent video. Thanks.
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Around 6:10, why is there a line drawn underneath the thermometer? It seems that by doing so, you short-circuit the pre-charge circuit, rendering it useless... or am I misunderstanding/misinterpreting something?
Hello, @tijsclaerhout2384 . Thank you for your question. If you are asking about the thermostat, this is a NO contact. When you have high heat, it will open. Happy learning from REALPARS!
isn't there a mistake at 6:14 it seems to me your short circuiting your charge up resistor. (or what u wanna call it?) there for still getting a peak current that could possibly damage the input device? correct me if i'm mistaken here. greetings, thanks for the informational video btw
Hi Tom, thank you for your question.
This is a simplified block diagram illustrating the basic concept within this circuit. Please note that in reality, the circuit is far more intricate than what we present here. The resistor in use is of a high value and wattage, designed to limit the flow of current to a predetermined safe level. This feature prevents the resistor from overheating or burning up. Instead, the current naturally follows the path of least resistance.
We hope this explanation clarifies the information for you. Should you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to ask. We appreciate your engagement and wish you continued learning and growth with RealPars!
@@realpars I know, but even if you work with equivalent values instead of the real circuit. it still should be an open circuit. now you have a parallel short circuit drawn with no switch whatsoever. which means 0 amps will flow through the 'safety' part of your circuit at any given tim? could u please look at the screenshot at 6:14 ?
This is awesome. Look forward to part 2
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Soo useful, i hope you can make more vidéos in this topic about how to program it
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Can't wait for the second part
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Thanks for video. But english subtitle has been slided. Can you fix ?
Thanks for sharing that, Semih! I will look into that.
@@realpars Realpars, you're yet to fix it. Subtitles still out of sync with video/narration. Thank for your commitment to engineering education.
So, if the resistor portion of the VFD is faulty - power can go to the motor for a brief time, until it overheats and ground fault occurs... despite not being called upon?
Hello. @CrystalElliott-m2e. Thank you for your question. You have a very good question. These drives are designed with safe internal smart sensors to check for current, voltage, and frequency failures. Therefore, if what you say happens, the drive will normally announce a failure, a fault signal will be sent or displayed, and the drive will safely shut down to avoid major damage. Happy learning from RealPars!
another question please and thank u what kind of filter we use after the rectifier low pass or high pass or tape pass and why thank u sirI really appreciate ur efforts to give the best
It would be considered a low-pass filter. The filter section of the VFD uses capacitors & an inductor to filter the voltage & current. The capacitors have a pre-charge circuit that allows the capacitors to reach full charge slowly so that they are not damaged. A set of resistors is provided to discharge the capacitors anytime power is removed. The filter allows the pulsing DC voltage to be changed to pure DC.
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@1:21Did you mean to say gearboxes are subtle or _susceptible_ to vibration and noise?
Should be "susceptible to vibration & noise". Thanks for letting us know.
Yes!!!! Finally...
Can you please explain the DTC and scaler mode of a variable frequency drives.. thanks
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Hi! I love your videos and hope that you will keep up with the good work. I only have one question; isn't the symbol for the one-way valve in hydraulic system suppose to be the other way around? I am pretty sure that it works by pushing the ball. :P
Yes, this has been pointed out before by other readers. The description is correct,; only the graphic is incorrect. Thanks for your input!
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Hey there.. I bought a VFD for my home CNC Router build. The one I got is a 3 phase 380V 1.5KW VFD.. After getting it I began to realise there was a 1 phase VFD too. I'm very lost atm guys..
Cam I use this 3 phase VFD for my home build CNC? This is all new to me so plz excuse the silly moronic questions from myself,, I would very much appreciate ur help if possible, Thanks for a brilliant video. I'm 50 yrs of age now and only just beginning my learning experience with programming, CNC's Arduino's, etc.. I lovelearning all of this stuff about electronics, etc but I really need a lotta help. I'm hoping these tutorials cAN BE THAT BRIDGE FOR ME,, Thanks for the knowledge. I will be heading over to the wenbsite asap as well now..
Your home wiring is 1-phase. You will need a 1-phase VFD. These can be purchased in either 120VAC or 240VAC versions. I would go with a 240VAC VFD. If you do not have a spare 240VAC outlet, I suggest hiring an electrician to install one in the vicinity where you need it. A CNC machine will consume significant power, so a separate, properly sized circuit will be required. Unfortunately, your 3-phase VFD cannot be used. You may wish to return it or offer it for sale on eBay or another resale platform. OK, the other thing you need to consider before doing any of the above is to determine what your CNC machine requires. If it requires 3-phase power, then you will have another issue since you will not be able to connect it at home at all without special equipment. In this case, you may want to consider purchasing a gasoline powered 3-phase generator that you use specifically for the CNC machine. This will work, but be prepared to spend >$2000.
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oh wow this was just uploaded! lol im over here trying to find part 2
Hopefully part two will be launched soon!
So what happens when u have 277/480 three phase system that’s running too high like at 497 . And u have voltage imbalance? Will it just only be sending a signal on the highest phase to ground voltage and therefore the vfd not work properly? Or does a vfd clean it up somehow? Just got the IQ1000 outdoor box haven’t hooked up power to it yet. We need to slow the pump down it’s pumping more gallons per minute than the well can provide
Thank you for your question. The compatibility with a high leg largely depends on the VFD itself. Typically, a VFD operates by converting incoming AC voltage to DC using a rectifier, then utilizing IGBT to produce the required AC frequency and current via PWM modulation. While some VFDs may accommodate a high leg, it's often advisable, as per the manual, to connect power through a constant voltage transformer before supplying it to the VFD. This setup generally offers a more robust engineering solution. Happy learning!
Please , explain what happens if the VFD is set DELTA in the parameter, but MOTOR is connected STAR/ WYE .
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Should we use VFD and Contactor at the same time??? I'm a beginner learning curve of VFD. Please kindly to share your experiences. Thanks. From Cambodia.
they can be used both to switch on a motor...the start external terminals of the vfd are connected to the NO of the contactor while the contactor coil is connected to the start button...so when you press the start button the contactor NO contacts closes and thus gives command to vfd to start motor
Hello. The vfd does not need a contactor, the vfd has all the necessary components for easy control. You just need to carefully read the instructions for connection
There are many applications that involve contactors and VFDs used on the same equipment. They are application specific though. Are you asking about the pre charge contactor shown in the video or are you asking about contactors in general?
Better not to use contactor between VFD and motor as there is no need and can be a lot of problems during commissioning and further operation
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At 6:55 it’s stated that the resistor divides the voltage between the two capacitors. I’m sure you mean two (2) resistors divide it since one will do nothing. Also, I’m not sure why this detail is important to this video. The only reason for two or more capacitors in series and their requisite dividing resistors is because it MAY be difficult to have a single capacitor with the appropriate voltage rating available for the design. This has absolutely nothing to do with understanding the operation of a VFD and just adds pointless, possibly confusing information to the explanation. The same thing could be present in the rectifier section also for the same reason but, it’s equally unimportant to the subject of the video.
Thank you very Much.. Excellent video.. I think part 2 will be more interesting . I kindly request please make vedio regarding motor starting Current of different starting methods. I will hope your good response.. Thanks again. 👍
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Aren’t the hydraulic check valves drawn backwards in regards to your flow direction?
Thank you for your question. Sorry for the confusion. The check valve flow is in the downward direction for the check valve to work. The voice-over person stated that the pictures show the check valves will shut down in the direction of the arrows shown. And in the down direction of the flow is when they work. Sorry, but it was not clearly shown but explained correctly.
for troubleshooting purposes suppose the drive is stopped intentionally, Will i read full DC voltage across the bus capacitor when stopped????
You show a single current coil on the input to the drive, if you only have one coil wouldn't that work like a GFCI if all is proper zero net current? Or is that a totally different concept in 3 phase?
When a motor that is controlled by a VFD stops, current is not allowed to pass to the motor. However, the capacitors are still charged, but will slowly drain. It is something to know about so that you don't put yourself at risk. The current transformer is used to measure current. Many times, for a balanced circuit, a single sensor is used. the current draw through each of the three phases should be similar. The current transformer is different from a GFCI, although both measure current flow. In a GFCI, the transformer looks for an imbalance of current between Hot and Neutral, indication a potential fault condition between H and N.
Is the 6 pulse rectifier a good way to control the phases of a three phase supply?
I'm still learning about basic circuits ATM, cheers tho🙂
Using a 6-pulse rectifier is used to rectify a 3-phase circuited (2 diodes per phase) to DC voltage. This type of rectifier is useful for this purpose in a VFD. The 6-pulse rectifier is also useful for circuits in 24VDC power supplies.
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Good video one question can you run the motor at a speed greater than 60hz
Yes, but this is recommended only for inverter-duty motors. A 3600 RPM motor can only be run safely at up to 75Hz. An 1800 RPM motor can only be safely operated at up to 120 Hz. However, as speed increases above 60 Hz, torque will be reduced, so in some applications, overspeeding the motor will not be helpful.
Plz explain if VFDs can be used to control DC motors... Can they work without the ac dc converter and the igbt section...to convert back dc to ac output in case of controlling dc motors....
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how you are able to adjust output voltage and frequency by triggering IGBT
Think of IGBT's as power switching transistors. The VFD regulates the DC voltage at the collector of the IGBT. The switching circuit fires the gate of the IGBT to allow current to flow to the emitter. By use of a control circuit, the frequency, polarity, and duration of being in the "on" position (pulses) can be controlled. This is how the VFD inverter section is able to recreate a sine wave output at the frequency required by the application from the DC output of the rectifier.
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Does the 120 in the formula come from the 120 degrees out of phase of a 3 phase system ?
Yes, this is correct. The sine wave for each phase is 120-degree out of phase with the other phases. This arrangement provides greater power density than a one-phase circuit at the same amperage, keeping wiring size and costs lower.
@@realpars This is incorrect. The 120 in the formula comes from 60 Hz x 2-poles since poles are always in pairs (2, 4, 6, ...)
the subtitle is not synchronized with the video can you fix it please. From Brazil.
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As far as You know, Sir, are anode and cathode different in biology? I'm pretty sure to remember anode is (‐) and cathode is (+).
Does it make any difference?
These definitions can be a little tricky, and definitely confusing, depending on the context. Cathodes get their name from cations (positively charged ions) and anodes from anions (negatively charged ions). However, in a device that uses electricity, the cathode is the negatively charged electrode (attracts electrons). In a device that produces power the cathode is the positive terminal ("produces" electrons).
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Add video about plc And how to connect relay sensor and so on with plc thank you
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Hi @Mohamed. There are a few videos we've already posted that you might be interested in. th-cam.com/video/B65detMhnoc/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/oyaItbhqoW0/w-d-xo.html
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why there 2 current transformer to measure output current instead for 1 in the input side
Hi Arjun,
Thank you for your question! In reality, the picture we show on the input side represents current transformers. We really have one for each phase. For simplicity, we just show one current transformer. Sorry if it was confusing. On the output side, we show two again for simplicity, but most likely, we have three. One for each phase. This is done to protect the VFD in case of IGBT failure.
Here is a link to the drive application manual for your review.
support.industry.siemens.com/cs/document/5824404/siemens-standard-drives-application-handbook?dti=0&lc=en-US
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Question, does the motor maintain strong torque at lower speeds ?
That depends on the motor and the load it is controlling. Normally, the answer is yes, as VFDs are able to develop strong torque at lower speeds. However, running at low speed for long periods of time can cause motor heating and other problems.
What's solution for single phase capacitor based induction motor?
Single-phase motors can be controlled with a single-phase VFD. A simple rheostat will also work pretty well and is much less expensive than a single-phase VFD. However, the VFD can be connected to and controlled from a PLC, whereas a rheostat must be controlled manually.
Thanke you, Where can l find PART 2
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How to work memory cards and how to create electromagnetic waves in semiconductor divise make a video plz
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can you say why auto tuning is reqd and the data collected by AC drive
Control within the VFD is generally regarded as open loop control. I do not recommend using the internal PID control (if available) since improper setup or application can cause the speed to "hunt and wander". Data is generally not collected internally, but there is usually a set of parameters that can be set by the engineer to control and characterize its operation. Some complex drives can have hundreds of settable parameters. Data that is stored in a VFD automatically includes diagnostic data, such as the last ten fault codes or maximum temperature reached.
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So every variable speed motors are dc volts ?
Not exactly. There are DC motors and DC VFDs, but that is not what this video is showing. A VFD used with an AC motor needs to change the frequency of the AC current. There is no electronic device to do this directly. Therefore, the incoming AC current is rectified (converted to DC), and then the resulting DC voltage on the DC bus is inverted, using IGBTs or other devices, back to an AC voltage having a different frequency from the incoming voltage. This process also affects the AC voltage level so that there is a constant V/Hz ratio.
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