you know that feeling when you bought really tasty priced gpu during aftermath of crypto gold rush a year ago, slapped a waterblock on it (bye-bye warranty) and you see this? this feeling is called HEART ATTACK GOD DAMMIT.
You know those tests arent really any good right? Like they're basically meaningless and every major youtuber will just add in subjective results to the tests anyways making it just a waste of everyone's time.
@@eat5827 Remember his CRT videos? As much as I enjoy his content Dawid doesn't always do himself justice by, you know, preparing properly with a bit of homework.
Did you check if local dimming was turned on? That might explain why you didn't see any halos around bright objects and also noticed IPS glow, which should only be present if the backlight is actually on (which it shouldn't be for large black areas).
There does seem to be a brighter zone around the mouse cursor at 6:18 and the measured contrast levels are clearly too high for native IPS panel, though it's questionable what level/setting the backlight was on.
I know for a fact that some of the "better" HP monitors do come with the sheet for testing before shipping. We got some of their Z monitors in and they all had a few pre-calibrated sheets with them.
Also in New Zealand 🇳🇿 you can buy this brand in a local computer store. PB tech! I have one for the last 3 years. It has a cool function where you can connect two HDMI’s and run it as two separate monitors!
yeah i was wondering if it was the same brand. i think the panels they use are ones rejected by Samsung QC so it can be very hit and miss if the one you buy is any good
I wish there were actual Aliexpress/Temu stores to shop at that offer all the random things they sell online... I would get a part time job to spend all of my money there.
Funny enough we actually have something like that in the Netherlands. The store is called “action” and its basically AliExpress in real life lol. Unfortunately it isn’t quite as big as the online AliExpress, wish and temu stuff of course
It'd be fun, yeah. There's a lot of wonky things that don't work, but also a lot of wonky things that do. It really helps the product selection to have the world's largest Ewaste-repurposing city plugged into the backend of the platform's pipeline.
I'm just really impressed by the stand and how you can rotate the monitor around and stuff. That is not a level of usability I'd expect from some random company on AliExpress.
My monitor was like £300 in 2020 and all the stand does is tilt the screen up or down, keep telling myself to get a third party stand but never do it. I just put a book under the feet and it lifted it up enough.
@@gintozlato1880 My curved LG ultrawide's stand doesn't swivel, rotate, or even height adjust. Honestly, it BARELY holds the monitor. I wonder if Titan Army just sells the stand. I like the orange cable glory hole.
This isn't a rebranded INNOCN, but it is using the same monitor chassis as the INNOCN 27M2V. They are both mini-LED, but the INNOCN 27M2V is 4K with 1152 dimming zones rather than the 1440p monitor with 384 dimming zones shown in this video. I own a INNOCN 32M2V and it's an excellent HDR monitor.
For good reason. My LG OLED TV got (very faint) burn in after 6 months, and after 2 years it was ruined. Bad time to find out LG doesn't cover burn in on the warranty.
Usual trick with OLED would be to have two monitors. OLED for movies and gaming (without static elements) , and plain regular IPS for plain old office and browsing tasks 😉
For sure. Not meant as a brag, but I own 3 oled tv's. 1 was the living room tv and 1 for in "the cave" mostly for games. Both of them could go pretty bright and looked amazing(and no burn in 3 years in), so I wanted an LG oled monitor. I returned it a day later. Its not even close to the tv's, mostly because of the low brightness and "anti glare" coating. I used to own a 1k nit FALD monitor and that screen looked amazing, really screamed " BRO HDR" so for monitors I would rather use falds. Like a Desert scene would almost be blinding on the FALD, but would be dimmer then a normal monitor on the oled. Really missing the impact of the scene
Don't forget that you can also benefit from buying a high-end monitor off of Facebook marketplace. Just make sure to test it for dead pixels and other anomalies.
How do you benefit? By making the numbers in your bank account smaller and getting almost nothing in return, while having to deal with assbags that use Facebook?
Hi David; I am not sure how much attention you pay to the supplied plug adapter, but similar ones I have received are insanely dangerous; the in/out copper connects by TOUCHING, held together by the tightness of the screws holding the adapter together. If those screws arent tight, or come loose over time, the copper connections will also loosen, and you are facing potential arc-ing/towering inferno situations. I throw all mine away, cut off the Chinese market plug, and fit a proper one - in my case the UK plug; even the cheapest, nastiest, Chinese sweatshop made UK plug is a billion times better than the adapters I have received (but I use MK branded plugs anyway).
I've noticed that a lot of Chinese electronics have skyrocketed in quality over the past couple of years. A while back you wouldn't catch me dead looking at their peripherals; now I legitimately consider them when making budget purchases. I honestly look forward to what a lot of these companies will put out in the near future.
I remember years ago when oppo phones were releasing they said chinese brands are trying to get into the market with top quality tech & fast forward a few years oppo is one of the top phone brands each year as well as lenovo dominating in the PC department. interesting to see what another 10 years has to show
@@makuIaLenovo was long before as well, to this day their only good computers come from talent bought in the IBM computer division buyout almost 20 years ago
You guys don't even get to see the really nice low cost stuff outside China. This monitor is actually only about $240 in the mainland and I just picked up a 34" 4k 165hz ultrawide for $220 that has similar performance.
Depending on the panel, the processing and the dimming performance, mini LED panels can be very good and put up a decent fight against full fat OLEDs. I have a TCL mini LED TV and it's a great compromise between price, size and performance. It's a very solid technology in the right unit.
I have to admit, the one thing that I like the most of this monitor is the looks of it from the back. It feels so good to see a non black modern monitor, that's from the front. Because from the back they are ever rarer. This silver and orange one...and I am not saying it just because I love orange, is beautiful. Yes ok the plastic can be felt through the internet, but still I would love to have one that looked like that. Thanks for the video.
IPS poor contrast was the reason I used VAs for so long, until I got my qd-oled, now its like I put the glasses from "They Live" on, and I can never go back.
I can only play relaxed in 80-100% dark room(blinds closed), so the oled brigthness is a non issue,the only problem is that the plants are dieing and my wife keeps crying that shes tired of staying in the dark
Second comment, but you mentioned that you can still see the dimming zones. Personally, I held out on getting a MiniLED until I saw the monitor I have now (Cooler Master GP27FUS) with over 500 dimming zones @ 27" the zones are almost half the size as this Titan Army one (and its 4K 160hz 1450nits) they're pretty small and I LOVE the black levels on the display and since the zones are so small the halo effect isn't all that noticeable. Though I heard about the upcoming REDMAGIC 27" 4K MiniLED which has 5088 dimming zones - me thinks this is the holy grail before OLED and probably my next monitor!
I have a 576 local dimming backlight and the only game that struggles is night time flying in flight simulator. That said I can choose medium or low local dimming setting to help out
the 1st gen qd-oleds already have insane peak brightness. 1000 nits in a small window, dimming as the overall screen gets brighter, but it's still plenty bright. i've had the alienware DWF for over a year and i don't keep it at max brightness cuz it gets squinting bright. night time scenes are breathtaking.
I have an LG with peak HDR brightness of 1500 nits. I had to get a service remote to disable the auto dimming BS...but after doing that it's been excellent. Had it for 2 years and no issues, no burn in. Just a great screen.
It would have been interesting to know how much you'd have to turn down the Mini-LED display to match the max brightness of the OLED and what that did to the overall image quality, in terms of colours/blacks.
Many moons ago, I bought a 27in 1440p monitor direct from the factory in Korea via eBay. Hands down one of the best monitors I have ever owned, and finally got replaced only a few months back by a 4K panel for no reason other than a lack of Dual-Link DVI outputs on modern video cards. I still have the monitor and an older video card to drive it.
I also bought a super cheap 27 inch 1440p monitor like 4 years ago from a company called pixio. They had by far The cheapest 1440p 165hz at the time and it's bloody brilliant. Hasn't let me down and it's powered on for like 12 hours a day.
@nyanpasu64 Only because of the speed and signalling protocol, I'm sure if DVI is connected, the transmitting or receiving end will drop back. The impression I get is that the monitor is DVI so will not support high speed HDMI and high speed HDMI is not required, thus a £10 HDMI TO DVI adapter will do the required job to continue to use the monitor
@@brucethen Well you won't get a 1440p DVI panel's native resolution with a passive HDMI to DVI cable. There's, well, DP to dual link DVI active converters, and you can buy a HDMI to DP converter, because apparently people haven't been able to find HDMI to dual link DVI splitters directly.
"Grainy filter over the image" Isn't that just the anti glare coating? Because that's how I would describe anti-glare coatings. I've no experience with this Corsair monitor it's compared to but from what I've heard the OLED panels have a lighter AG-coating or some are even glossy (I've been waiting for glossy screens for 10 years).
I am 99% sure Acer sells this same monitor as the Nitro XV275U P3biipx. The native contrast you measured means it has the same VA panel. So if you want this monitor for like half the price buy that.
Would've been cool to see you trying out some HDR gaming on it (if you didn't), as far as I understand that's probably where a monitor like this would benefit most from its high brightness.
I'm pretty sure this monitor assembler has a VA panel version with active FALD being sold by better brands, and a rather good one at that for contrast/blacks; IE backlight supression. So a 384 zone mini LED FALD with it will easily blow the doors off a super high end IPS display with +1000 zones in actually being useable without being an ugly bloom fest. However an IPS panel with that backlight power? NO THANKS, I like my blacks black... and not distinctly grey, and even if the FALD worked on this; it would still be a very ugly bloomfest.
There is a lot of misinformation on mini led. While it is better, it is only slightly better than high-quality IPS at SDR. The blacks are better, but that's about it. Blacks are still black with a lcd, just not as black. Mini led is okay, but it won't be around nearly as long as LCD. Micro led is far superior. If all your consume is HDR content, then mini led it great. Mini led playing SDR can only achieve slightly better overall picture quality then a good IPS at a brightness around 400 to 500 nits. You do not get that 1000 nits with SDR. Is it better? Yes, but not as overblown as people often believe.
On Amazon in Germany there was monitor sold that looked almost identical with the only difference it was 4k and well eu plug and different company logo
4:02 - we’ve near identical Persian rug designs. Were you & Ana both JETs in Japan? Thanks for catering to my interests. I’d love to see you compare an Xbox X to a comparable cost Mini PC (Ryzen/Radeon Graphics) to determine which is the Gameriest Solution.
6:26 are you sure you have the backlight dimming feature enabled? The whole monitor should not be glowing like that I have a Mini LED monitor myself (Asus Swift PG32UQX) and I'd still choose it over OLED. Yes, there is blooming that is visible over UI elements, it's quite noticeable in Windows, or in game menus. But when you're actually watching content or playing a game, it's not noticeable at all, and you still get deep inky blacks too. No, it's not quite as good as an OLED, and there are a few edge cases where OLED will be better, but it's 90% as good as OLED, gets much much brighter, and had zero burn-in, plus at least as of right now, OLED gaming monitors are very limited when it comes to size and resolution, so you're either buying a 1440P monitor that is good for gaming but sucks at everything else, or a massive 4K OLED that can double as a small living room TV. As for the massive brightness, it's not there for you to crank it up to 100 and fry your eyeballs. It's there to make things like explosions, reflections, or looking into the sun far brighter than the rest of the scene just like it happens IRL, and it adds an extra layer of immersion and visual punch.
150 watts is crazy I use 6 25Watt 27 inch Samsung monitors, and that's a lot of power draw (about 150 watts), I would probably need to run a whole new circuit to my desk to run 6 150 watt monitors...
I bought a Titan Army mornitor during 11-11 sales with $100+ coupons, monitor arrived undamaged within 2 weeks. It is way much better than my old AOC VA monitor although it is not fair to compare IPS to VA. My original plan was to buy Yeston Waifu GPU but it was way too expensive comparing to local non waifu GPU.
Is there are cheaper FALD displays from someone with any registered brand name? If there is not, than not much anyone can judge, it cheap and it works.
Oh, I'm so old... Whenever the 'Holy Grails' of modern monitors are discussed I can't help thinking, "Funny, all that stuff was taken for granted with CRTs." No, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm not a 'CRT gamer'. We collectively decided flat panels are better so the CRT died a death, but like all shifts in technology there is a price to be paid. I do however wonder if there might be a niche market for 'modern' CRTs..? With the aid of technological developments I bet if somebody really tried a very flat and relatively light CRT in pretty well any aspect ratio would be possible... ...BITD a UK lunatic called Clive Sinclair (most famous for the ZX Spectrum, even though he really only wanted to make business machines) came up with a somewhat flat panel CRT for his portable TV.
The problem with HDR monitors is most basically lie about their specs, and there's a lot of confusion on how HDR works. just cause a display says it's capable of 1000nits, doesn't mean it can do that where it matters. You also may not have seen any blooming cause the display may not at default had local dimming enabled. There's a tool i made called "HDR Demo" you can find on itch that's intended to clear up how this stuff works. And also give some good tests so you can understand a displays capabilities.
I se/hear people be happy about extremely high light capability of monitors, and yet I'm one of those that turndown brightness a lot on monitors and TV's. Do you really crank up the brightness that high? Am I so alone not liking the extremely bright displays that blast me with enough light to make me squint?
From where I'm sitting, the response time looked very low. There seemed to be a lot more motion blur than I experience on my Asus PG279Q 27-inch G-Sync, IPS, 165 Hz, 2560 x 1440 Gaming monitor.
100% Adobe RGB coverage and high refresh rates combined make Mini LED a bit of a Godsend to Graphic Designers who game 🎮 Previously, we've always had to choose one or the other
im quite interested in mini led myself and i found a decent mini led monitor "AOC Q27G3XMN 27" for only 280$ us in amazon with mini led, 1000 nits brightness and a va panel. and for almost half the price i would like to see a comparison to these monitors
Same here. There is also the KTC M27T20. It has the same specs aside from a downgrade in 165hz but it has 576 dimming zones an upgrade from the AOC's 336 zones. Also nice that it has 90w USB C connection with a KVM built in for just $80 more than AOC. I want the better features but I am also torn about the weak 1 year warranty. One thing I do know is that KTC makes the monitors for Cooler Master line of mini LED monitors.
@@MrMega200I have the KTC and I’m very happy with it. Black smearing is not noticeable and vrr works well with local dimming after updating the firmware.
There are some reviews of that AOC, I've seen it on a rtings and some other website, it seems to be a very good monitor. I'm also thinking about buying it in a month or two.
@@MrMega200 yeah my problem is that i live in europe and the aoc starts at 400€ and the ktc at 450€ so a little bit too much for my price point but i am waiting for a sale maybe if one of them dropped to 330€ or so i would consider buying them
@@AnnaDoes Glad for Dawid's channel showing how sometimes PC stuff is just cursed. If it's any possible, maybe a "how to set a PC up" video in the channel's usual style might be fun!
I had this exact monitor, it is look good when gaming and i found no black light bleed problem but yes its is too damn bright I have to adjust to 30% brightness and contrast to feel comfortable when not gaming
Hey Dawid I was curious if you'd be interested in me sending you out a CPU to do some fun testing on. It's a suuuuper powerful one, lol JK. Itd be fun to see in bottlneck videos though. It's an AMD Sempron 130, one of the most useless desktop CPU's I have ever laid my eyes on. 1 Core 1 Thread at 2.6 Ghz and it came out in 2011!!! I have no use for it and it would be a fun chip to see you experiment with.
the thing is...we dont even know the longevity of these mini leds on this monitor and if they burn out soon enough with this much of brightness then that $500 goes down the drain with it too
To be fair to the manufacturer, that's the same way you have to rotate a Dell UltraSharp monitor in to portrait, at least the older ones, so it's pretty standard as far as I'm concerned.
Hey Dave I'm from America. Its nice to meet you. I want to buy some gaming monitors 27 inch 144 hz for a game lounge, roughly about 12. What and where do you recommend I buy from. Thank you.
Careful with the eldritch horrors at 6:28, it's hard to keep them out of the editing software
bruh i tought my gpu was artifacting xd
Bro I was like did my monitor just glitch.
Some words were definitely edited out.
@@pretizco3679 Same LOL, I had to rewind to make sure.
you know that feeling when you bought really tasty priced gpu during aftermath of crypto gold rush a year ago, slapped a waterblock on it (bye-bye warranty) and you see this? this feeling is called HEART ATTACK GOD DAMMIT.
you can test the dimming zones by playing a video of a white bar going across the screen.
For ghosting/motion blur, you can use ufo test.
The fact they're not included in this video seems extremely lazy
Right, and it would also show whether it actually works at all. Pretty major thing to leave out imo
@@eat5827 its a for fun channel, not a serious review thing
You know those tests arent really any good right? Like they're basically meaningless and every major youtuber will just add in subjective results to the tests anyways making it just a waste of everyone's time.
@@eat5827 Remember his CRT videos? As much as I enjoy his content Dawid doesn't always do himself justice by, you know, preparing properly with a bit of homework.
Did you check if local dimming was turned on? That might explain why you didn't see any halos around bright objects and also noticed IPS glow, which should only be present if the backlight is actually on (which it shouldn't be for large black areas).
There does seem to be a brighter zone around the mouse cursor at 6:18 and the measured contrast levels are clearly too high for native IPS panel, though it's questionable what level/setting the backlight was on.
I also questioned this. If it wasn't on there is a reason he wasn't seeing dimming.
That moment when Aliexpress monitors come far more accurately pre-calibrated than most monitors twice its price... 😬
Yet you still need to adjust things so it's ultimately pointless
Not really when it's half the price?
I know for a fact that some of the "better" HP monitors do come with the sheet for testing before shipping. We got some of their Z monitors in and they all had a few pre-calibrated sheets with them.
Also in New Zealand 🇳🇿 you can buy this brand in a local computer store. PB tech! I have one for the last 3 years. It has a cool function where you can connect two HDMI’s and run it as two separate monitors!
They are at the heart LG and Samsung panels with a white label brand but they can be a bit colour inaccurate
Russia too
oh ok
I thought Titan Army sounded familiar, I always thought they were only a PB Tech thing.
yeah i was wondering if it was the same brand. i think the panels they use are ones rejected by Samsung QC so it can be very hit and miss if the one you buy is any good
I wish there were actual Aliexpress/Temu stores to shop at that offer all the random things they sell online... I would get a part time job to spend all of my money there.
Lmfao
Funny enough we actually have something like that in the Netherlands. The store is called “action” and its basically AliExpress in real life lol. Unfortunately it isn’t quite as big as the online AliExpress, wish and temu stuff of course
It'd be fun, yeah. There's a lot of wonky things that don't work, but also a lot of wonky things that do. It really helps the product selection to have the world's largest Ewaste-repurposing city plugged into the backend of the platform's pipeline.
a fool and his money and so forth
Yay! More cheap Chinese garbage! Buy it all!
New Zealand and Australia use that power plug.
But upside down 🙃
Cut it and you got universe plug 👍
So does China
@@Tyomas1983that's because we're upside down
really handy when buying stuff off chinese websites
I'm just really impressed by the stand and how you can rotate the monitor around and stuff. That is not a level of usability I'd expect from some random company on AliExpress.
My expensive LG monitor's stand cannot even do all of that 🤣
My monitor was like £300 in 2020 and all the stand does is tilt the screen up or down, keep telling myself to get a third party stand but never do it. I just put a book under the feet and it lifted it up enough.
@@gintozlato1880 My curved LG ultrawide's stand doesn't swivel, rotate, or even height adjust. Honestly, it BARELY holds the monitor. I wonder if Titan Army just sells the stand. I like the orange cable glory hole.
And it takes up LESS space than the vshaped monitor stands that most monitors have
The range of motions makes me thing they took a good look at Dell monitor stands :D
INNOCN monitor is well reviewed, and this is just a rebranded version.
The question with Aliexpress is are you getting what you buy.
This isn't a rebranded INNOCN, but it is using the same monitor chassis as the INNOCN 27M2V. They are both mini-LED, but the INNOCN 27M2V is 4K with 1152 dimming zones rather than the 1440p monitor with 384 dimming zones shown in this video.
I own a INNOCN 32M2V and it's an excellent HDR monitor.
INNOCN is its own brand. Titan Army is another shittier company that makes monitors for Xiaomi/Redmi.
I think the main problem with OLED technology and monitors right now is the manufacturers are terrified of burn in so they under crank the brightness.
Manufacturers are terrified that customers would be terrified*
I'd take less brightness, over expensive monitor that needs replacing every few years
For good reason. My LG OLED TV got (very faint) burn in after 6 months, and after 2 years it was ruined. Bad time to find out LG doesn't cover burn in on the warranty.
@@DSS553hit them under the lemon policy.. or buy a good in-store warranty as this could lead to a free upgrade if the monitor goes out of production.
Usual trick with OLED would be to have two monitors. OLED for movies and gaming (without static elements) , and plain regular IPS for plain old office and browsing tasks 😉
For sure. Not meant as a brag, but I own 3 oled tv's. 1 was the living room tv and 1 for in "the cave" mostly for games.
Both of them could go pretty bright and looked amazing(and no burn in 3 years in), so I wanted an LG oled monitor.
I returned it a day later. Its not even close to the tv's, mostly because of the low brightness and "anti glare" coating.
I used to own a 1k nit FALD monitor and that screen looked amazing, really screamed " BRO HDR" so for monitors I would rather use falds.
Like a Desert scene would almost be blinding on the FALD, but would be dimmer then a normal monitor on the oled. Really missing the impact of the scene
you never run out of content as long as u have aliexpress lmao
And I love it 😂😂
Lmao
Don't forget that you can also benefit from buying a high-end monitor off of Facebook marketplace. Just make sure to test it for dead pixels and other anomalies.
How do you benefit? By making the numbers in your bank account smaller and getting almost nothing in return, while having to deal with assbags that use Facebook?
@@Those_Weirdospeople could very well be selling their old monitors for cheap to get them out after upgrading
Not sure that’s a good idea. Displays can die too
FB marketplace is a joke...
ive sold all my great spare parts for good prices after upgrading on the fb marketplace,not everyone is a d bag scammer
This brand is actually vastly available in SEA I believe, and actually has a very decent reputation over here (currently residing in Malaysia)
i wish you would have discussed the rear side lighting of the back of the panel
Hi David; I am not sure how much attention you pay to the supplied plug adapter, but similar ones I have received are insanely dangerous; the in/out copper connects by TOUCHING, held together by the tightness of the screws holding the adapter together.
If those screws arent tight, or come loose over time, the copper connections will also loosen, and you are facing potential arc-ing/towering inferno situations.
I throw all mine away, cut off the Chinese market plug, and fit a proper one - in my case the UK plug; even the cheapest, nastiest, Chinese sweatshop made UK plug is a billion times better than the adapters I have received (but I use MK branded plugs anyway).
I've noticed that a lot of Chinese electronics have skyrocketed in quality over the past couple of years. A while back you wouldn't catch me dead looking at their peripherals; now I legitimately consider them when making budget purchases. I honestly look forward to what a lot of these companies will put out in the near future.
I remember years ago when oppo phones were releasing they said chinese brands are trying to get into the market with top quality tech & fast forward a few years oppo is one of the top phone brands each year as well as lenovo dominating in the PC department. interesting to see what another 10 years has to show
@@makuIaLenovo was long before as well, to this day their only good computers come from talent bought in the IBM computer division buyout almost 20 years ago
You guys don't even get to see the really nice low cost stuff outside China. This monitor is actually only about $240 in the mainland and I just picked up a 34" 4k 165hz ultrawide for $220 that has similar performance.
Lol not really
@@makuIaWhat you're talking about is what Huawei and loongson are doing.
Cable isn't just for China as Australia has the same pin layout as that shown.
Depending on the panel, the processing and the dimming performance, mini LED panels can be very good and put up a decent fight against full fat OLEDs. I have a TCL mini LED TV and it's a great compromise between price, size and performance. It's a very solid technology in the right unit.
I have to admit, the one thing that I like the most of this monitor is the looks of it from the back. It feels so good to see a non black modern monitor, that's from the front. Because from the back they are ever rarer. This silver and orange one...and I am not saying it just because I love orange, is beautiful.
Yes ok the plastic can be felt through the internet, but still I would love to have one that looked like that.
Thanks for the video.
IPS poor contrast was the reason I used VAs for so long, until I got my qd-oled, now its like I put the glasses from "They Live" on, and I can never go back.
I can only play relaxed in 80-100% dark room(blinds closed), so the oled brigthness is a non issue,the only problem is that the plants are dieing and my wife keeps crying that shes tired of staying in the dark
Backlight the wife?
@@MoultrieGeek :))
Also “struggle but in an interesting way” should be the tagline for this channel
Too true :)
Time travelling at 6:29 😂
Visual glitch at 6:28
Here in the South Pacific, Titan Army is a pretty common brand. We get a lot of the Chinesium brands for phones and TVs as well.
Second comment, but you mentioned that you can still see the dimming zones. Personally, I held out on getting a MiniLED until I saw the monitor I have now (Cooler Master GP27FUS) with over 500 dimming zones @ 27" the zones are almost half the size as this Titan Army one (and its 4K 160hz 1450nits) they're pretty small and I LOVE the black levels on the display and since the zones are so small the halo effect isn't all that noticeable.
Though I heard about the upcoming REDMAGIC 27" 4K MiniLED which has 5088 dimming zones - me thinks this is the holy grail before OLED and probably my next monitor!
I have a 576 local dimming backlight and the only game that struggles is night time flying in flight simulator. That said I can choose medium or low local dimming setting to help out
1:03
look s like that is a really universal adapter, i would skip the sketchy wall adapter, and just use a new clover wall cable
the 1st gen qd-oleds already have insane peak brightness. 1000 nits in a small window, dimming as the overall screen gets brighter, but it's still plenty bright. i've had the alienware DWF for over a year and i don't keep it at max brightness cuz it gets squinting bright. night time scenes are breathtaking.
I have an LG with peak HDR brightness of 1500 nits. I had to get a service remote to disable the auto dimming BS...but after doing that it's been excellent. Had it for 2 years and no issues, no burn in. Just a great screen.
What happened at 6:30
LOL you had me at "High End" and AliExpress.
It would have been interesting to know how much you'd have to turn down the Mini-LED display to match the max brightness of the OLED and what that did to the overall image quality, in terms of colours/blacks.
U can try hisense gaming monitor with similar properties and mini led. Maybe u can try to compare with this? If u can get it
Honestly I'd choose higher brightness than deep OLED dark. It's just better for certain workload I have.
I also want a second Sun in my room.
Many moons ago, I bought a 27in 1440p monitor direct from the factory in Korea via eBay. Hands down one of the best monitors I have ever owned, and finally got replaced only a few months back by a 4K panel for no reason other than a lack of Dual-Link DVI outputs on modern video cards. I still have the monitor and an older video card to drive it.
DVI and HDMI are electronically compatible. You can very cheaply adapt HDMI out to DVI in or visa versa
I also bought a super cheap 27 inch 1440p monitor like 4 years ago from a company called pixio. They had by far The cheapest 1440p 165hz at the time and it's bloody brilliant. Hasn't let me down and it's powered on for like 12 hours a day.
@@brucethen 1440p high speed HDMI is not electrically compatible with 1440p dual link DVI.
@nyanpasu64 Only because of the speed and signalling protocol, I'm sure if DVI is connected, the transmitting or receiving end will drop back.
The impression I get is that the monitor is DVI so will not support high speed HDMI and high speed HDMI is not required, thus a £10 HDMI TO DVI adapter will do the required job to continue to use the monitor
@@brucethen Well you won't get a 1440p DVI panel's native resolution with a passive HDMI to DVI cable. There's, well, DP to dual link DVI active converters, and you can buy a HDMI to DP converter, because apparently people haven't been able to find HDMI to dual link DVI splitters directly.
Marking on the box, 外区 literally says “for foreign market”, hence the English calibration sheet and English OSD.
I would so love to get a miniLED monitor! The issue is that there aren’t that many options for ultrawides that doesn’t cost $2,000 and isn’t 49”.
6:28 i thought my GPU was diying hahaha
"Grainy filter over the image"
Isn't that just the anti glare coating? Because that's how I would describe anti-glare coatings. I've no experience with this Corsair monitor it's compared to but from what I've heard the OLED panels have a lighter AG-coating or some are even glossy (I've been waiting for glossy screens for 10 years).
The 'A' in Titan is very similar to the A in the logo for Titanfall.
I think you should do a video called Dawid dose HDR stuff
Im so happy Dawid is back! I love your content.
I am 99% sure Acer sells this same monitor as the Nitro XV275U P3biipx. The native contrast you measured means it has the same VA panel. So if you want this monitor for like half the price buy that.
Sorry to break it to you but everything is made in China, even if it says other wise.
This is a copy/clone innocen monitor. I have the 4k mini led 144hz one and my goodness the colors are amazing while being high refresh rate with 1ms
the font on the monitor is literally titanfall's font, its just a little smoothed around the edges
Would've been cool to see you trying out some HDR gaming on it (if you didn't), as far as I understand that's probably where a monitor like this would benefit most from its high brightness.
I'm pretty sure this monitor assembler has a VA panel version with active FALD being sold by better brands, and a rather good one at that for contrast/blacks; IE backlight supression. So a 384 zone mini LED FALD with it will easily blow the doors off a super high end IPS display with +1000 zones in actually being useable without being an ugly bloom fest. However an IPS panel with that backlight power? NO THANKS, I like my blacks black... and not distinctly grey, and even if the FALD worked on this; it would still be a very ugly bloomfest.
There is a lot of misinformation on mini led. While it is better, it is only slightly better than high-quality IPS at SDR. The blacks are better, but that's about it. Blacks are still black with a lcd, just not as black. Mini led is okay, but it won't be around nearly as long as LCD. Micro led is far superior. If all your consume is HDR content, then mini led it great. Mini led playing SDR can only achieve slightly better overall picture quality then a good IPS at a brightness around 400 to 500 nits. You do not get that 1000 nits with SDR. Is it better? Yes, but not as overblown as people often believe.
Right out the box it looks good and it actually works.
On Amazon in Germany there was monitor sold that looked almost identical with the only difference it was 4k and well eu plug and different company logo
4:02 - we’ve near identical Persian rug designs.
Were you & Ana both JETs in Japan?
Thanks for catering to my interests.
I’d love to see you compare an Xbox X to a comparable cost Mini PC (Ryzen/Radeon Graphics) to determine which is the Gameriest Solution.
Why didn't you touch any of the response time settings?
Am I the only one who waits for Dawid to use the words "vinerial disease" on his videos? lol
6:26 are you sure you have the backlight dimming feature enabled? The whole monitor should not be glowing like that
I have a Mini LED monitor myself (Asus Swift PG32UQX) and I'd still choose it over OLED. Yes, there is blooming that is visible over UI elements, it's quite noticeable in Windows, or in game menus. But when you're actually watching content or playing a game, it's not noticeable at all, and you still get deep inky blacks too. No, it's not quite as good as an OLED, and there are a few edge cases where OLED will be better, but it's 90% as good as OLED, gets much much brighter, and had zero burn-in, plus at least as of right now, OLED gaming monitors are very limited when it comes to size and resolution, so you're either buying a 1440P monitor that is good for gaming but sucks at everything else, or a massive 4K OLED that can double as a small living room TV.
As for the massive brightness, it's not there for you to crank it up to 100 and fry your eyeballs. It's there to make things like explosions, reflections, or looking into the sun far brighter than the rest of the scene just like it happens IRL, and it adds an extra layer of immersion and visual punch.
When gaming in a dark room anything over 500 nits is just eye damage
Considering how much stuff you get off of AliExpress, I think it'd be a pretty interesting video to see the best "steals" from there
150 watts is crazy I use 6 25Watt 27 inch Samsung monitors, and that's a lot of power draw (about 150 watts), I would probably need to run a whole new circuit to my desk to run 6 150 watt monitors...
Is that the original Titanfall "A" used in the logo?
i'm sure you can test displays in a sun lit room, to show why brightness is important
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Yes @@puppynow
The stand works exactly at the Gigabyte mounting system.
Would you try crazy mechnical keyboard designs?
I thought this monitor was very good until the price was said...
What about the AOC Q27G3XMN 27" QHD 2560x1440 Gaming Monitor? Its a VA panel with mini-led backlights for only $280 on Amazon.
I bought a Titan Army mornitor during 11-11 sales with $100+ coupons, monitor arrived undamaged within 2 weeks. It is way much better than my old AOC VA monitor although it is not fair to compare IPS to VA. My original plan was to buy Yeston Waifu GPU but it was way too expensive comparing to local non waifu GPU.
The monitor is huge scam for the price not even going to lie
Is there are cheaper FALD displays from someone with any registered brand name? If there is not, than not much anyone can judge, it cheap and it works.
Feels good to be really early.
Oh, I'm so old...
Whenever the 'Holy Grails' of modern monitors are discussed I can't help thinking, "Funny, all that stuff was taken for granted with CRTs."
No, I'm not trying to start a flame war and I'm not a 'CRT gamer'. We collectively decided flat panels are better so the CRT died a death, but like all shifts in technology there is a price to be paid. I do however wonder if there might be a niche market for 'modern' CRTs..?
With the aid of technological developments I bet if somebody really tried a very flat and relatively light CRT in pretty well any aspect ratio would be possible...
...BITD a UK lunatic called Clive Sinclair (most famous for the ZX Spectrum, even though he really only wanted to make business machines) came up with a somewhat flat panel CRT for his portable TV.
ok boomer
The problem with HDR monitors is most basically lie about their specs, and there's a lot of confusion on how HDR works. just cause a display says it's capable of 1000nits, doesn't mean it can do that where it matters. You also may not have seen any blooming cause the display may not at default had local dimming enabled.
There's a tool i made called "HDR Demo" you can find on itch that's intended to clear up how this stuff works. And also give some good tests so you can understand a displays capabilities.
Couldn't play video for 8th time opening this so paused Ad and decided to leave comment im not gonna watch then
6:28 video artifacts woopsy, but for Aliexpress stuff it's okay)
This is also a power adapter we use in Australia 🇦🇺 💪👍
lol "I wonder which one I went with..." BUAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! - I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, DAVID!!!
My question for you would be how is the HDR experience?
Obviously it won't compare to OLED but is it fake HDR, or is it actually half decent?
My guess is that it would be at least somewhat better than SDR due to the higher peak brightness.
I se/hear people be happy about extremely high light capability of monitors, and yet I'm one of those that turndown brightness a lot on monitors and TV's. Do you really crank up the brightness that high? Am I so alone not liking the extremely bright displays that blast me with enough light to make me squint?
You should buy a mini LED VA panel, it fits the mini LED better.
From where I'm sitting, the response time looked very low. There seemed to be a lot more motion blur than I experience on my Asus PG279Q 27-inch G-Sync, IPS, 165 Hz, 2560 x 1440 Gaming monitor.
100% Adobe RGB coverage and high refresh rates combined make Mini LED a bit of a Godsend to Graphic Designers who game 🎮
Previously, we've always had to choose one or the other
That power plug is actually for Australia, not China.
Is the "Mini Led" same technology as "Nano-IPS" of LG Monitor?
im quite interested in mini led myself and i found a decent mini led monitor "AOC Q27G3XMN 27" for only 280$ us in amazon with mini led, 1000 nits brightness and a va panel. and for almost half the price i would like to see a comparison to these monitors
Same here. There is also the KTC M27T20. It has the same specs aside from a downgrade in 165hz but it has 576 dimming zones an upgrade from the AOC's 336 zones. Also nice that it has 90w USB C connection with a KVM built in for just $80 more than AOC. I want the better features but I am also torn about the weak 1 year warranty. One thing I do know is that KTC makes the monitors for Cooler Master line of mini LED monitors.
@@MrMega200I have the KTC and I’m very happy with it. Black smearing is not noticeable and vrr works well with local dimming after updating the firmware.
There are some reviews of that AOC, I've seen it on a rtings and some other website, it seems to be a very good monitor.
I'm also thinking about buying it in a month or two.
@@MrMega200 yeah my problem is that i live in europe and the aoc starts at 400€ and the ktc at 450€ so a little bit too much for my price point but i am waiting for a sale maybe if one of them dropped to 330€ or so i would consider buying them
@@MrMega200I just returned that KTC monitor the other day. Black smearing and lack of uniformity annoyed me too much.
Either i'm missing something or that plug is for Australia. Because i'm Australian and it's identical to ours.
6:28 okay I'm really hoping that was the video and not my PC again.
Pretty sure it was the video :)
@@AnnaDoes haha, thank you, I've been having drivers issues on a fresh OS install and this triggered a moment of panic
@@Lyander25 haha fair enough. A Fresh OS often does that 🤣
@@AnnaDoes Glad for Dawid's channel showing how sometimes PC stuff is just cursed. If it's any possible, maybe a "how to set a PC up" video in the channel's usual style might be fun!
When I saw Titan-Army from the thumbnail, I knew this was going to be good...
Titan Army monitors are sold in New Zealand. They aren't bad, but I'd rather go for a big name brand.
I had this exact monitor, it is look good when gaming and i found no black light bleed problem but yes its is too damn bright
I have to adjust to 30% brightness and contrast to feel comfortable when not gaming
Thats not the China plug thats the Australian plug 😂
Dawid please make a video on egpu...😃😃
Hey Dawid I was curious if you'd be interested in me sending you out a CPU to do some fun testing on. It's a suuuuper powerful one, lol JK. Itd be fun to see in bottlneck videos though. It's an AMD Sempron 130, one of the most useless desktop CPU's I have ever laid my eyes on. 1 Core 1 Thread at 2.6 Ghz and it came out in 2011!!! I have no use for it and it would be a fun chip to see you experiment with.
the thing is...we dont even know the longevity of these mini leds on this monitor and if they burn out soon enough with this much of brightness then that $500 goes down the drain with it too
LED's don't die very fast. Courtesy of their non organic nature. You'd have much more to worry about if it was an OLED display on Aliexpress.
6:27 jesus fucking christ i thought my gpu dying
Now the question is, how much QC wiggle room these monitors have between good and bad samples? I suspect the answer is "yes".
there is no way to give an acceptable answer for you if you just suspect the answer is "yes"
the logo is the same font as the titanfall 2 logo lmao
happy New Year!!!!
To be fair to the manufacturer, that's the same way you have to rotate a Dell UltraSharp monitor in to portrait, at least the older ones, so it's pretty standard as far as I'm concerned.
at 6:28 video freezing for a second
is it only for me?
Hey Dave I'm from America. Its nice to meet you. I want to buy some gaming monitors 27 inch 144 hz for a game lounge, roughly about 12. What and where do you recommend I buy from. Thank you.
I'm serious when I say that your videos make my day much better. Thanks
Don't use those deathdaptors.