Not sure Santa could get that down the chimney. Having said that I can just imagine it sat under the Xmas tree, covered in rapping paper and you wondering what it is.
Meant as an AA, I know, but holy mother of all that is good, is this thing a nightmare on a battlefield. Just the fact that enemy as a ZSU somewhere and it can open fire halts any assault. No soldier wants to be even remotely open and have a chance to be fired at by this beast.
It's very lightly armoured AA platform .... but in ambush, on full auto, I think it will disable any tank within few seconds, damaging/destroying barrel, optics, IR, tracks either by shells or metal debris). I think the tank crew itself would drown in own shit just from the noise of insane barrage of 23mm bullets hitting the hull and turret.
@Ralof of Riverwood it's a deadly threat to a tank's combat effectiveness and mobility. 2 decades 11H and 11B. A zoot will strip the track right off an M1 with only a few hits. It won't likely survive the return fire, but that tank will be put of the fight. Army tested M1 against Bradley's CG and it stopped em dead where they stood. Took off tracks, rangefinders and sights right fast. Won't penetrate the hull, but it'll send it back for depot repair on a lowboy.
+Tiles Murphy that's nullshit the tracer is in the nose of the round its self dumbass your realize the bullet leaves the shell when fired and the shell is extracted
***** But thats the problem. Its really hard to hit something with it. Its only good on low flying planes(but i doubt that, since I having seen firings in that scenario) and on helicopters. In modern warfare this equipment is terrible. 23mm round have terrible ballistics. IT WAS good. But its not any more. Thats why everybody moved to 35 mm. Even russia. You know why many countries still have it? Because they cant afford new equipment. Educate yourself pls.
iankee88 haha you keep saying that, yet you have no proof or logical arguments behind you. I dont need to look up something that most armies know already and USING IT. you fuckin troll.
Piorun Piorun it's the standard camouflage pattern used by NATO forces. The pattern consist of three colors ”black, brown and green” hence why it's called "tri-color"
prospectus Half of NATO countries use either outdated equipment or do not have militaries at all. It's better to have some old stuff that is still effective than not have any equipment at all. Besides that Poland regained independence 26 years ago so what do you expect? It's a country that is still recovering after the war and soviet occupation yet Polish Army is the 5th army of the EU. Not bad I would say.
That is not shilks That's is very deeply modernised Polish version ZSU-23-4 MP " Biała with removed radar with fully passive optical sight day and night, thermar, with laser range finder, tv tracking with digital balistic computer and with 4modern Grom anti air rockets... and with APU. Anti radar missiles cant touch it...
@@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218 he might have been trained in and has fought in the zsu 23 some 20 or 40 years ago, you know there is old people on youtube, just sayin
People who claim the Shilka was ineffective were idiots. It was meant to shoot down helicopters and slow moving attack planes. It was very good at this. Numerous A-10 pilots claimed they feared it. The A-10 was meant to withstand this sort of firepower, but it does so through redundancy. A number of bursts will still down one. This one also has the GROM missile, a Polish light Infrared missile of similar effectiveness to the American Stinger, being more effective than all Strela and Igla models.
@@brigadier3596 The speed of planes hasn't changed since this system was developed and with improvements in fire control systems, speed is less of an issue than it ever was.
Not a single plane in the world can survive a hailfire of cannon rounds and the a10 never claimed to be able to. People call it a flying tank but that doesnt mean it actually is. The pilot of a a10 is surrounded by an shield of armour but the plane itself isn't armoured perse
@@xeio1122 Is it? Are there definitions what calibers should be used on what kind of hostile entities? Honestly if I were a soldier and about to get killed, I'd probably prefer to be evaporated as quickly and painlessly as possible, so the bigger and more numerous the booms the better...
@@Lenariet yeah certain weaponry can't be used on certain things. I believe flak cannons in ww2 were banned from flaking infantry parachuting in for some reason, probably horrific unnecessary suffering of the afflicted party. (I stand corrected, it's not illegal apparently.)
Firstly that target could be up to a kilometer away, secondly it was designed as an anti-aircraft system so it's meant to be inaccurate so theres a higher likely hood of a round hitting a jet and thirdly does the accuracy really matter? thousands of rounds being fired in your general direction one is bound to hit and that's all it takes with jets.
GOLTURBO555 Apache was designed to withstand 23mm hits, at least the rotor blades and the cockpit... Makes me wonder why one of them was taken down by AK-47 fire :P
Ever since playing Operation Flashpoint I've had a soft spot for the Shilka. It's just so cool looking, even if it's of somewhat limited effectiveness.
Not as limited as some western specialists would like to believe. IRL and war situations properly modernised ZSU-23-4 are extremally good anti-helicopter/personnel supression/convoy defense units. I saw some clips where modern helicopters were shred to pieces in some desert country (Syria probably) Really, do not underestimate russian war technology, it's not half as bad as we think it is! ;) EDIT: I corrected extreme crapload of typos. I do not know WTF my PC did, keyboard lagged as all hell...
A former Aircraft Commander of an Air Force MC-130 (special ops.) on the Grenada mission sat on the other Fedex B-727 cockpit jumpseat next to me, many years ago. He told me that none of the pilots in the Grenada Invasion expected ZSU 23s. He decided to quickly turn his aircraft around when a ZSU began randomly spraying rounds in his general direction. He indicated that the guns' >>fire control radar
You know, playing SABOW on steam I now 100% realise how accurate the devs got ballistics modelled. If you were to put this zoomed in footage side-by-side it would be uncanny. The richochets are spot-on!
These Shilkas are modified especially for anti-CAS/drone duty. They lack of radar and have greatly reduced thermal signature. So if a thing like that Is properly hidden, the case would most likely be that A-10 won't even know that the one sits there until its too late. And Polish thick forests help to do just that. Optical systems mounted on this one are well capable of targeting and following the target within engagement range, even in difficult conditions.
An icon. It has been around for a long while. Anti-aircraft point defense for armor on the move, in case of outer SAM defense breach. This was their intended role when introduced in the 70's If it works ...
+ss4456 I play lots of simulation type games and I look into researching the things that interest me. The Shilka in particular is a great SPAAG, but I see more videos of it being used as anti-infantry than as an actual SPAAG. The 23mm HEI-T shells have good penetration to go through walls and have a big enough blast to do major damage once they detonate so that's probably why they used it in Syria and America used a few in Iraq.
These are great anti-personal weapons also. These were used in the second war with Chechnya to counter rebels in high rise buildings. These Zus ability depress 10 degress and go nearly vertical made it idle for clearing buildings and even hill sides while on convoy duty. This was more feared by the rebels than your average tank, and you can see why. Sweet 😀
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Shilka is totally outdated weapon for today anti-aircraft warfare, but as a anti-infantry weapon it could make a total mess in line of apporaching troops.
an absolute beauty and a favourite of any operation flashpoint/arma fan. I always wondered why they gave it such a cute name though. shilka? really? sounds like a name you'd give to a puppy dog.
I think shooting stationary pieces of plywood on the ground single shot is EXCELLENT practice for trying to shoot down a fighter-bomber flying at 600 miles per hour.
You can't use radar for ground targets so they have to practice manual firing.. The round thing pointing upward is a radar dome. Also, Shilka isn't designed to take down fast and high flying targets, it's point defence for low altitude threats...
Ich war 3 Jahre auf dieser super Maschine. Das Video ist zeigt ausser Erdzielschiessen nichts von dem was die Maschine wirlich kann. Wir hatten zum Glueck bei der NVA keinen Gefechtseinsatz. Aber ich hätte mit meiner Schilka alles vom Himmel geholt, auch Fliegerbomben, das ging mit der ZSU 23-4. Ich war 3 Jahre im MSR 27. Moechte mal jemanden treffen, der auf 5km eine Möwe im Radar hält, da muss die Maschine schon ordentlich eingestellt sein! Gruessle an Komandanten, Panzerfahrer + Funkorter
@insas223 Problem with radar is that hostile airforce will be able to detect it (its not that hard) and turn SPAAG into scrap metal long before getting in range of 23 mm guns... From what I know thermal camera used on "Biała" does quite well even in bad weather conditions. Biała can also aim using data from other devices (radar posts, mobile radar stations ect.)
@FallenAce89 Man erkennt schon auf dem Bildschirm was es für ein Ziel ist(schnell-langsam, groß-klein, einfache oder doppelte Ziele für Freund-Feind-Erkennung). Naja wendiger war die Schilka auch und wir konnten aus der Bewegung Ziele bekämpfen, dazu muss der Gepart anhalten. Das eine Möwe auf so eine Entfernung ein Signal gibt was von der Automatik verfolgt wird zeigt nur, das das Radar sehr gut einjustiert war.
I flew CAPS over Bosnia in the 90's and was always wary of these buggers, especially when we were on LLRS's. If they're equipped with radar they'll take you right out of the sky. They'll lead you up and you're done!
Nowdyas iths backwords. IF they have radar u will see them also and be able to avoid or take evasive action. More modern vehicles ( as this one here) dont rely on radar or even dont have it at all so not to alert enemy. 100% infrared tracker + optic targeting computer so that the target has no idea u are there untill u actually open fire.
@Beneficiis As you know Schilka is for Short range air defense.Normally they operate with mechanized/armored columns along with air-elements covering them.Attack by Anti-radiation missiles is a ever present danger,of-course.But,Radars, are very useful also.Just as enemy has anti- radar tactics,there are tactics to counter such tactics also.As,always it is a continuous cat and mouse game between the attacker and defenders.
@CMDRFandragon Since the guns are automatic they already produce a "cone of fire"(not in a straight line), and multiply that with quading(4 joined together) them and yes it looks inaccurate. They are anti aircraft guns though and their primary mission is to produce a wall of lead for aircraft to fly trough, and they do that very well.
During the South Afican/Angolan war we had one of our Ratel APC hit by one of those at dusk.Troops abandoned the vihicle and the enemy troops fired at it throughout the night Next morning only the floorplate and rearplate was left on the axels.
October 7, 1973, when the Syrian calculation of the ZSU 23-4 “sawed” two Israeli “Phantoms” in the air, and in total, during the “October” war, “Shilka” destroyed 12 enemy aircraft. They began to fly higher, but there ..)) They got hit by rockets
@Xunstar That's not always truth. Normally the amunnition explodes at a determinated distance. It don't need to hit anything to detonate. Plus, that ammunition don't need to hit to cause damage, it's enough to explode next to the target to cause serious"injures". The body of the planes are very very weak...
I think OFP sounds were mostly taken from some public domain sound database. For example the sound of exploding tanks in ofp you can hear the same sound in almost every second movie when something is exploding on screen.
@ChrisinatorS Correct :), but the Desert Combat mod that i mention is a mod that simulates modern day combat with t72 and m1 tanks, a-10 thunderbolt, f-16, mig-29 and frogfoot planes and all the rest involved in our day combat, including the shilka and the vulcan AA guns ;).
@Frostiken No not accurate, but then again it was meant to give a good spread to shoot down aircraft. Doing pretty good for hitting things on the ground.
@Beneficiis Is not the opto-electronic system vulnerable in bad weather or adverse conditions?Indian BMP upgrade is fitting new opto-electronic as well as a new radar system.
I would argue that it is even good against tanks, so long as the tank doesn't see him. Those 23mm's would wreck the optics and sensors of basically any MBT, set off ERA blocks, and might even wreck the tracks and possibly the engine if hit in a certain spot (with the shilka's rate of fire I am sure that wouldn't be too hard). Once again however, the shilka cannot be seen by anything. If it was, forget about it. The shilka would be taken out pretty quickly.
They are SPAAGs, self propelled Anti-Air guns. Though, they were tasked with mountain warfare during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, due to their rate of fire and gun traversal.
Stationary aimed fre from turretted weapons at short range using fully auto fire and theyre scoring a handful of hits. I think any aircraft is pretty safe.
Pamiętam jak 20 lat temu wrzuciliśmy do wiadra metalowego pocisk z II wojny światowej z podobnego działka ale to był flak vierling 20 mm. Pocisk płonął w wiadrze z benzyną po to żeby eksplodował bo jak to młodzi i głupi ....Wiadro miało prawie 50 otworów na wylot z malutkiego pocisku przeciwlotniczego 20 mm !!!! Patrząc na moc mimo że już ten sprzęt ma swoje lata jest obrzydliwie zabójczy dla śmigłowców a o piechocie nie wspomnę
@insas223 Of course its different from schilka's radar.... Cause this version has NO radar at all. It uses opto-electronic system to aim and detect targets. So no radar, all cameras + computer. Quite effective too.
It is like that with all SPAAAG because shoting into ground targets is muuuch easier than into air targets. BTW. Google ZSU-23-4 MP „ Biała” because that is a „Biała not a „ Shilka” ...check How deeply it was modernise and How 4 good rockets ready to fire it has.
B M North Vietnamese have them and claimed to have used them. I don’t know how much of that is true but I’ve read several articles about it in Vietnamese
This was our main priority target on the Cold War battlefield. As a gunner on the fledgeling TOW HAW in 1977, we were all scared shitless of this beast. It was..fuck a damned tank, kill that quad! Even today, I guarantee it will ruin your weekend alright! The ZSU 23-4 is just but one of the many weapons systems the Russians did right. It'll still ruin your day!
@pashka1988 Well, from what I know Self-Propelled gun doesnt have the ability to teleport. While on the move it can be attacked like any regular armored vechicle. With radar turned off, it loses any capability to protect itself, unless it has passive targeting system, like opto electronic one. It cannot leave if it doesnt know it's been detected. More modern SPAAG have radars that are hard to detect from outside its gun distance. And that works. But Shilka's oryginal radar is crappy...
No it is. Can be used to combat ground units as well as most other anti aircraft guns can but its not very good at it and really only used on light targets is they encounter infantry.
Are they upgraded models?The radar seems to be different from the traditional dish shape of the original schilka. Are they still in front line service?
ah, the shilka. 23x4mm of fuck off. In the IDF, many times those who drop off from flight school end up in Aerial defense (M-163's and so on), so they have an unofficial saying in AD - "If I ain't flying, NO ONE IS" - which is usually followed by AAM's and/or 20mm shells being blasted.
@airborneace this vehicle might be obsolete when it comes to countering modern aircraft, but it still kicks ass .. it can kill anything except a tank (but it will destroy any sights and targetting systems, effectively neutralizing the tank)
One of the most terrifying things to hear during a game of Operation: Flashpoint
_12 o'clock, Shilka, 200_
exactly
specially if you are in a cobra and he just goes DRUDRUDRUDRUDRUDRUDRUDRU
Yea that shit was nasty..
After watching this, I appreciate OFP even more - the engine & weapon sound effects were spot-on.
@@Daedricbob I can only agree, even though its old, its still one of the most realistic games imo
just disappointed it doesnt fire in full auto
This is the exact reason I'm here. :D
Dear Santa...
hahahaha
DEAR STALIN...
@@nmspy Sralin
Not sure Santa could get that down the chimney. Having said that I can just imagine it sat under the Xmas tree, covered in rapping paper and you wondering what it is.
Against LGBT lol
Meant as an AA, I know, but holy mother of all that is good, is this thing a nightmare on a battlefield.
Just the fact that enemy as a ZSU somewhere and it can open fire halts any assault. No soldier wants to be even remotely open and have a chance to be fired at by this beast.
It's very lightly armoured AA platform .... but in ambush, on full auto, I think it will disable any tank within few seconds, damaging/destroying barrel, optics, IR, tracks either by shells or metal debris).
I think the tank crew itself would drown in own shit just from the noise of insane barrage of 23mm bullets hitting the hull and turret.
@Ralof of Riverwood it's a deadly threat to a tank's combat effectiveness and mobility. 2 decades 11H and 11B. A zoot will strip the track right off an M1 with only a few hits. It won't likely survive the return fire, but that tank will be put of the fight. Army tested M1 against Bradley's CG and it stopped em dead where they stood. Took off tracks, rangefinders and sights right fast. Won't penetrate the hull, but it'll send it back for depot repair on a lowboy.
jeez that ricohets on the ground look amazing
+gemini7Sky Looks like it, but it isn't. The rounds go straight into the ground. It's only the tracer element that gets dislodged and bounces off.
really?
Иосиф Steelin Yes. The tracer element is only screwed onto the base of the shell. A hard knock will dislodge it.
+Tiles Murphy that's nullshit the tracer is in the nose of the round its self dumbass your realize the bullet leaves the shell when fired and the shell is extracted
I think he meant "shell" as in the artillery shells that have explosive fillers mate
hands up if u love shilkas. awesome bit of kit.
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vodka up
Old but very deadly weapon.
***** But thats the problem. Its really hard to hit something with it.
Its only good on low flying planes(but i doubt that, since I having seen firings in that scenario) and on helicopters. In modern warfare this equipment is terrible. 23mm round have terrible ballistics.
IT WAS good. But its not any more. Thats why everybody moved to 35 mm. Even russia.
You know why many countries still have it? Because they cant afford new equipment.
Educate yourself pls.
Sharky Dont even bother being right. How many articles did you read to assume
Check again dumbass.
Yeah wonder why you think you're right nerd? Look up on all the articles fucktard
iankee88 haha you keep saying that, yet you have no proof or logical arguments behind you.
I dont need to look up something that most armies know already and USING IT.
you fuckin troll.
Shilka's in NATO tricolor, never thought I'd see the day
Bloo96channel2 What's a tricolor?
Piorun Piorun it's the standard camouflage pattern used by NATO forces. The pattern consist of three colors ”black, brown and green” hence why it's called "tri-color"
That's what happens when Poles use outdated, soviet military equipment.
prospectus Half of NATO countries use either outdated equipment or do not have militaries at all. It's better to have some old stuff that is still effective than not have any equipment at all. Besides that Poland regained independence 26 years ago so what do you expect? It's a country that is still recovering after the war and soviet occupation yet Polish Army is the 5th army of the EU. Not bad I would say.
That is not shilks That's is very deeply modernised Polish version ZSU-23-4 MP " Biała with removed radar with fully passive optical sight day and night, thermar, with laser range finder, tv tracking with digital balistic computer and with 4modern Grom anti air rockets... and with APU. Anti radar missiles cant touch it...
The first vehicle I learned to drive...ahh, the good old days!
Where? military service?
War Thunder?
@@zethicc7557 *cries in P47*
Matthias Weiss you’re joking right? How.
@@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218 he might have been trained in and has fought in the zsu 23 some 20 or 40 years ago, you know there is old people on youtube, just sayin
People who claim the Shilka was ineffective were idiots. It was meant to shoot down helicopters and slow moving attack planes. It was very good at this. Numerous A-10 pilots claimed they feared it. The A-10 was meant to withstand this sort of firepower, but it does so through redundancy. A number of bursts will still down one.
This one also has the GROM missile, a Polish light Infrared missile of similar effectiveness to the American Stinger, being more effective than all Strela and Igla models.
Xiones11 it these vehicles have 4 grom missiles ready to fire
Xiones11 Missiles would force the plane to lower altitudes and then the shilka would shoot them down.
@@conorbyrne7474 Yet the speed of planes
@@brigadier3596 The speed of planes hasn't changed since this system was developed and with improvements in fire control systems, speed is less of an issue than it ever was.
Not a single plane in the world can survive a hailfire of cannon rounds and the a10 never claimed to be able to. People call it a flying tank but that doesnt mean it actually is. The pilot of a a10 is surrounded by an shield of armour but the plane itself isn't armoured perse
Loved mowing down infantry with this on Operation Flashpoint. :)
😂,
pretty sure that's a war crime, probably the only one worth it tho. haha big gun go brrrr
@@xeio1122 Is it? Are there definitions what calibers should be used on what kind of hostile entities? Honestly if I were a soldier and about to get killed, I'd probably prefer to be evaporated as quickly and painlessly as possible, so the bigger and more numerous the booms the better...
@@Lenariet yeah certain weaponry can't be used on certain things. I believe flak cannons in ww2 were banned from flaking infantry parachuting in for some reason, probably horrific unnecessary suffering of the afflicted party. (I stand corrected, it's not illegal apparently.)
Firstly that target could be up to a kilometer away, secondly it was designed as an anti-aircraft system so it's meant to be inaccurate so theres a higher likely hood of a round hitting a jet and thirdly does the accuracy really matter? thousands of rounds being fired in your general direction one is bound to hit and that's all it takes with jets.
Anti everything. Called as apache eater.
GOLTURBO555 Apache was designed to withstand 23mm hits, at least the rotor blades and the cockpit... Makes me wonder why one of them was taken down by AK-47 fire :P
Yes and still, for a AA system those were pretty good hits imo :)
Hairysteed
with shilka's rate of fire, apache have no chance.
Apache cockpit can't stand 7,62 mm
So much better than golf...
Davito2000 this is golf....
Russian golf...
Ever since playing Operation Flashpoint I've had a soft spot for the Shilka. It's just so cool looking, even if it's of somewhat limited effectiveness.
In flashpoint as a tankman I was afraid more of shilkas than tanks.
Not as limited as some western specialists would like to believe. IRL and war situations properly modernised ZSU-23-4 are extremally good anti-helicopter/personnel supression/convoy defense units. I saw some clips where modern helicopters were shred to pieces in some desert country (Syria probably) Really, do not underestimate russian war technology, it's not half as bad as we think it is! ;)
EDIT: I corrected extreme crapload of typos. I do not know WTF my PC did, keyboard lagged as all hell...
I grew up on that game too(and the expansions). I'd to anything to play that online again.
12 o clock, enemy shilka 300
Shilka is a complementary arm in any anti-air defense. High-flying targets are taken care of by missiles. Any low-flying planes will be Shilka fodder.
Well we know now that Poland can defend itself against plywood.
+Teutone Russia to do list 1.) Defeat evil Plywood, 2.) Defeat evil Dirt 3.) party with vodka
USA can't defend against few chess players. Muslims lost few pieces but USA lost two towers
zepter00 shut yo dumbass up there was civilians on the planes when that happened
Looked like the plywood actually won.....
Jerrit Worthing so what? Since when it is obstacle for you? You shot down Iranian airliner full of civilians onboard.
Very impressive weapon system. It was my primary target on the battlefield for a very good reason.
Very helpful
Helped me solve my math problems and with my homework a lot
Keep it up 👍🤗🤗
A former Aircraft Commander of an Air Force MC-130 (special ops.) on the Grenada mission sat on the other Fedex B-727 cockpit jumpseat next to me, many years ago. He told me that none of the pilots in the Grenada Invasion expected ZSU 23s. He decided to quickly turn his aircraft around when a ZSU began randomly spraying rounds in his general direction.
He indicated that the guns' >>fire control radar
You know, playing SABOW on steam I now 100% realise how accurate the devs got ballistics modelled. If you were to put this zoomed in footage side-by-side it would be uncanny. The richochets are spot-on!
These Shilkas are modified especially for anti-CAS/drone duty. They lack of radar and have greatly reduced thermal signature. So if a thing like that Is properly hidden, the case would most likely be that A-10 won't even know that the one sits there until its too late. And Polish thick forests help to do just that.
Optical systems mounted on this one are well capable of targeting and following the target within engagement range, even in difficult conditions.
I like how this little bad boi smoothly moving through a desert sand.
An icon. It has been around for a long while. Anti-aircraft point defense for armor on the move, in case of outer SAM defense breach. This was their intended role when introduced in the 70's If it works ...
why not full auto fire : (
+ss4456 The guns overheat very fast and can detonate rounds inside the gun possibly killing the crew.
Dan_The_ Man
so how it suposto be effective against fast flying low attitude planes? ground atack planes etc?
+ss4456 Its radio-guided so it fires in bursts. Its not all that accurate so the spread usually makes up for the short bursts.
Dan_The_ Man
You not Russian are you, how is it you so familiar with Shlika etc?
+ss4456 I play lots of simulation type games and I look into researching the things that interest me. The Shilka in particular is a great SPAAG, but I see more videos of it being used as anti-infantry than as an actual SPAAG. The 23mm HEI-T shells have good penetration to go through walls and have a big enough blast to do major damage once they detonate so that's probably why they used it in Syria and America used a few in Iraq.
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Bullet: *Hits ground*
Also Bullet: "Heard a lotta shit talking in the sky, brb."
These are great anti-personal weapons also. These were used in the second war with Chechnya to counter rebels in high rise buildings. These Zus ability depress 10 degress and go nearly vertical made it idle for clearing buildings and even hill sides while on convoy duty. This was more feared by the rebels than your average tank, and you can see why. Sweet 😀
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01:43
Flagman loves his job.
I like how the first target is like "nope fuck that I'm out... ahhh ahhh my leg is stuck in a hole aahhhrrggggg"
1:36 Translation :D
- Two helicopters. Range 10. Fire short!
- Load!
- Load!
- Loaded!
- Canon loaded!
- Ammunition loaded!
- Target locked!
SHOT
- To the right!
- It's on the right!
SHOT
0:56 Headshot 😅
its an anti aircraft gun, you want to put as many shots in the air as possible and a wider bullet spread is usually better for this kind of task
Shilka is totally outdated weapon for today anti-aircraft warfare, but as a anti-infantry weapon it could make a total mess in line of apporaching troops.
an absolute beauty and a favourite of any operation flashpoint/arma fan. I always wondered why they gave it such a cute name though. shilka? really? sounds like a name you'd give to a puppy dog.
Well they name their super heavy artillery pieces after flowers, so im sure its just a long running in joke lmao.
I think shooting stationary pieces of plywood on the ground single shot is EXCELLENT practice for trying to shoot down a fighter-bomber flying at 600 miles per hour.
Never underestimate Russian military equipment these guns will shred most low flying aircraft .its not flash but it works and its reliable and deadly
@Beneficiis
this version ZSU-23-4MP dont have radar, it have a digital optical targeting system
"Can you guys please destroy their AA they keep shooting me down" ME playing BF3 in 2012
You can't use radar for ground targets so they have to practice manual firing.. The round thing pointing upward is a radar dome. Also, Shilka isn't designed to take down fast and high flying targets, it's point defence for low altitude threats...
Impressive. With this age. It's a iron wall. Don't need to be precise like sniper. He'll get u a bullet barrier. All respect
Ich war 3 Jahre auf dieser super Maschine. Das Video ist zeigt ausser Erdzielschiessen nichts von dem was die Maschine wirlich kann. Wir hatten zum Glueck bei der NVA keinen Gefechtseinsatz. Aber ich hätte mit meiner Schilka alles vom Himmel geholt, auch Fliegerbomben, das ging mit der ZSU 23-4. Ich war 3 Jahre im MSR 27. Moechte mal jemanden treffen, der auf 5km eine Möwe im Radar hält, da muss die Maschine schon ordentlich eingestellt sein! Gruessle an Komandanten, Panzerfahrer + Funkorter
@insas223 Problem with radar is that hostile airforce will be able to detect it (its not that hard) and turn SPAAG into scrap metal long before getting in range of 23 mm guns...
From what I know thermal camera used on "Biała" does quite well even in bad weather conditions.
Biała can also aim using data from other devices (radar posts, mobile radar stations ect.)
Your vehicle gets hit by 2-3 bullets and you're likely to burst up in a giant explosion or flames. Very Very Dangerous Tank.
@FallenAce89 Man erkennt schon auf dem Bildschirm was es für ein Ziel ist(schnell-langsam, groß-klein, einfache oder doppelte Ziele für Freund-Feind-Erkennung). Naja wendiger war die Schilka auch und wir konnten aus der Bewegung Ziele bekämpfen, dazu muss der Gepart anhalten. Das eine Möwe auf so eine Entfernung ein Signal gibt was von der Automatik verfolgt wird zeigt nur, das das Radar sehr gut einjustiert war.
Scariest thing in Project Reality, as a CAS team
OMFG NOSTALGY
I flew CAPS over Bosnia in the 90's and was always wary of these buggers, especially when we were on LLRS's. If they're equipped with radar they'll take you right out of the sky. They'll lead you up and you're done!
But Yugoslavia didn't own Shilkas, only ZSU-57s
And yet they never could!
Nowdyas iths backwords. IF they have radar u will see them also and be able to avoid or take evasive action. More modern vehicles ( as this one here) dont rely on radar or even dont have it at all so not to alert enemy. 100% infrared tracker + optic targeting computer so that the target has no idea u are there untill u actually open fire.
Ravus Ursi You were fighting for Warsaw Pact? :D
Ravus Ursi I sense something... Hmm Stolen Valor
@Beneficiis As you know Schilka is for Short range air defense.Normally they operate with mechanized/armored columns along with air-elements covering them.Attack by Anti-radiation missiles is a ever present danger,of-course.But,Radars, are very useful also.Just as enemy has anti- radar tactics,there are tactics to counter such tactics also.As,always it is a continuous cat and mouse game between the attacker and defenders.
@CMDRFandragon
Since the guns are automatic they already produce a "cone of fire"(not in a straight line), and multiply that with quading(4 joined together) them and yes it looks inaccurate. They are anti aircraft guns though and their primary mission is to produce a wall of lead for aircraft to fly trough, and they do that very well.
During the South Afican/Angolan war we had one of our Ratel APC hit by one of those at dusk.Troops abandoned the vihicle and the enemy troops fired at it throughout the night
Next morning only the floorplate and rearplate was left on the axels.
I need one of these for home defense
October 7, 1973, when the Syrian calculation of the ZSU 23-4 “sawed” two Israeli “Phantoms” in the air, and in total, during the “October” war, “Shilka” destroyed 12 enemy aircraft.
They began to fly higher, but there ..))
They got hit by rockets
Man, pointing that at someone is a nice way to turn a human into minced meat.
One of my all time favourites
One of these would have fixed the dragon problem in Game Of Thrones.
Standards are very nice. Prices are not so expensive.
Some of those 4 round groups look just like a flying southern cross!
Imagine seeing these outside your house.
I love seeing those tracers bouncing of the ground.
@Xunstar That's not always truth. Normally the amunnition explodes at a determinated distance. It don't need to hit anything to detonate. Plus, that ammunition don't need to hit to cause damage, it's enough to explode next to the target to cause serious"injures". The body of the planes are very very weak...
They sound very different in Operation Flashpoint.
I think OFP sounds were mostly taken from some public domain sound database. For example the sound of exploding tanks in ofp you can hear the same sound in almost every second movie when something is exploding on screen.
I could watch this kind of footage all the day
@ChrisinatorS
Correct :), but the Desert Combat mod that i mention is a mod that simulates modern day combat with t72 and m1 tanks, a-10 thunderbolt, f-16, mig-29 and frogfoot planes and all the rest involved in our day combat, including the shilka and the vulcan AA guns ;).
They have probably only every 3rd or 4th bullet as tracer, this is why you see so few of them since rest are just AP or AP-I.
@Frostiken
No not accurate, but then again it was meant to give a good spread to shoot down aircraft. Doing pretty good for hitting things on the ground.
A real killing and powerful tank with good performance and good accuracy.
Valoro85 it has also 4 great anti air rockets „Grom” ready to fire th-cam.com/video/8ObPpRRBlvw/w-d-xo.html
Greetings from Poland!
@Beneficiis Is not the opto-electronic system vulnerable in bad weather or adverse conditions?Indian BMP upgrade is fitting new opto-electronic as well as a new radar system.
I would argue that it is even good against tanks, so long as the tank doesn't see him. Those 23mm's would wreck the optics and sensors of basically any MBT, set off ERA blocks, and might even wreck the tracks and possibly the engine if hit in a certain spot (with the shilka's rate of fire I am sure that wouldn't be too hard).
Once again however, the shilka cannot be seen by anything. If it was, forget about it. The shilka would be taken out pretty quickly.
Co pilot : tango at 3 clock
Pilot : oh that's just shilka...
They are SPAAGs, self propelled Anti-Air guns. Though, they were tasked with mountain warfare during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, due to their rate of fire and gun traversal.
4: 12 O clock Enemy Shilka 600
run run run
oh shi-
Shilka Neutralized 😂
@bum291 Thanx for your explaining.
I've seen tracers shooting too, 7.62 and 23mm but they were shot in the air, they are just awesome!
Stationary aimed fre from turretted weapons at short range using fully auto fire and theyre scoring a handful of hits. I think any aircraft is pretty safe.
Man imagine that thing being used against infantry. It would be a massacre.
Genialny materiał! Zrobi furorę na forach symulatorów lotniczych.
Pamiętam jak 20 lat temu wrzuciliśmy do wiadra metalowego pocisk z II wojny światowej z podobnego działka ale to był flak vierling 20 mm. Pocisk płonął w wiadrze z benzyną po to żeby eksplodował bo jak to młodzi i głupi ....Wiadro miało prawie 50 otworów na wylot z malutkiego pocisku przeciwlotniczego 20 mm !!!! Patrząc na moc mimo że już ten sprzęt ma swoje lata jest obrzydliwie zabójczy dla śmigłowców a o piechocie nie wspomnę
@insas223 Of course its different from schilka's radar.... Cause this version has NO radar at all. It uses opto-electronic system to aim and detect targets. So no radar, all cameras + computer. Quite effective too.
tak strzelałem w Orzyszu, starszy operator ZSU 23-4 z Wesołej ;-)
Ja na ZU 23 - 2 hibneryt. 7 BOW w Słupsku. Jesień 08/09.
Złom jakich nie mało w wojsku polskim
I love how the tracer bounce off the ground. at the same time you can kill ground units and air units all in one go.
Funny how these ended up being far better at ground combat than the purpose for which they were originally intended (air defense).
It is like that with all SPAAAG because shoting into ground targets is muuuch easier than into air targets. BTW. Google ZSU-23-4 MP „ Biała” because that is a „Biała not a „ Shilka” ...check How deeply it was modernise and How 4 good rockets ready to fire it has.
Good job but it was not used in Vietnam as someone said.
B M North Vietnamese have them and claimed to have used them. I don’t know how much of that is true but I’ve read several articles about it in Vietnamese
Coolest machine ever invented :)
The old Russian 23mm is a pretty fearsome weapon!
This was our main priority target on the Cold War battlefield. As a gunner on the fledgeling TOW HAW in 1977, we were all scared shitless of this beast. It was..fuck a damned tank, kill that quad! Even today, I guarantee it will ruin your weekend alright!
The ZSU 23-4 is just but one of the many weapons systems the Russians did right. It'll still ruin your day!
Jeden z moich ulubionych filmów na yt.
Between a Zsu-23-4 and a 2K22 Tunguska, I will choose 2K22 Tunguska.
01:57 in a real fight the man with the flags would be the first to go down "hey enemies I am here, here are my flags"
Looks like the muzzle velocity is low and the trajectory is like lobbing basket ball. Below 1000 m/s... hmmm.. relic
These things are pretty handy vs infantry and IFV's too
@pashka1988 Well, from what I know Self-Propelled gun doesnt have the ability to teleport. While on the move it can be attacked like any regular armored vechicle. With radar turned off, it loses any capability to protect itself, unless it has passive targeting system, like opto electronic one.
It cannot leave if it doesnt know it's been detected. More modern SPAAG have radars that are hard to detect from outside its gun distance. And that works. But Shilka's oryginal radar is crappy...
No it is. Can be used to combat ground units as well as most other anti aircraft guns can but its not very good at it and really only used on light targets is they encounter infantry.
I find myself kinda weird that i like watching tank tracks drive over soft mud like in the begining of this video
Great anti personnel vehicles.
That engine sounds great!
Are they upgraded models?The radar seems to be different from the traditional dish shape of the original schilka. Are they still in front line service?
They are other tanks with autoloades like the AMX-13 the Leclerc, the M8 bufford...
firing tracer rounds like that, poor guys, must have been cleaning the barrels for at least 2 straight weeks afterwards.
That target is how I feel some days in my leopard..... just pleb Thunder things.
ah, the shilka.
23x4mm of fuck off.
In the IDF, many times those who drop off from flight school end up in Aerial defense (M-163's and so on), so they have an unofficial saying in AD - "If I ain't flying, NO ONE IS" - which is usually followed by AAM's and/or 20mm shells being blasted.
@airborneace this vehicle might be obsolete when it comes to countering modern aircraft, but it still kicks ass .. it can kill anything except a tank (but it will destroy any sights and targetting systems, effectively neutralizing the tank)
Can't even begin to count the number of Shilka's i've destroyed in the good ol' BF1942 Desert Combat game :)