GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I watched this video and it is really not that good compared to my perfect videos. GAGAGAGAGA!!! This is NOT self-promotion! This is the reality! This is the world! We are the people! Don't disl****ke my vide*****s, my dear sam
Vigilant Cosmic Penguin you cannot photoshop a mask that is for images and stock footage are vidoes so you need something like adobe after effects or final cut pro
I work at an airline revenue management department and this guys videos on the airlines are spot on. I was actually part of the modelling efforts post Covid and we tried to predict the new demand signal. It was a very difficult problem. Now things are beginning to look normal again thank god!
Sam, I don't want to alarm you, but there's this guy impersonating you on TH-cam. Granted, his videos are Half as Interesting as yours are, but I thought you should know.
Wait Ryanair has the capability to show ads? But that costs money to be able to have a system to show ads. I thought that they only went for the most basic chair with out even a seat pocket because it's cheaper to not have any. The only reason they do have a tray table is to sell you water at triple value.
@@sirBrouwer Yes, they do have the most basic chairs, it feels like traveling on a bus. They show ads the analog way, digital ads are too expensive! The doors for the overhead compartments all have ads printed on them, they sell lottery tickets on board, once they even tried to charge for the toilet. Ryanair planes are like a newspapers, if there is space available, you can put an ad there. I am surprised they haven't printed ads outside of the plane yet.
@@Julia-rm2vwthat would require to much time at the paint shop. Stickers would add extra weight and drag so more fuel cost to a single trip. they could ad add space to the uniform of the flight crew. Like a sports jersey. a add on the front and back.
Hi there - I'm a travel consultant, and previously worked in airline operations - I found this video fascinating and absolutely hit the nail on the head about how absolutely insane this situation is in the industry - I've forwarded this on to all my colleagues! Thanks!
This probably explains something I found a couple nights ago that I thought was pretty extraordinary. I was looking for flights from Philadelphia to Tokyo. Not gonna be an easy or cheap trip no matter what, with a minimum of one layover - most likely in Los Angeles. Those were generally around $800-$1200. However, using Kayak I found a pretty extraordinary route. It used three short-term layovers, and managed to get the cost down to a mere $400. From Philadelphia to Las Vegas, an hour later from Vegas To Los Angeles, and an hour later from LA to San Francisco, followed by an overnight stay in SanFran, finishing off with a 1pm flight from SanFran to Tokyo. The total trip is 44 hours, although ~20 of them are spent off of a plane. I’m going to guess the reason for massive save in cost is the much lower demand for the individual legs of the trip, causing the overall trip to *half* in price.
As a pilot for a regional Airline, as much as I disparage Airline management, I have to thank American Airlines for two major reasons. They increased my flying to Florida destinations that I enjoy, and I have not been to New York in almost a year.
it's like the chinese restaurant i went to today: they offer all-you-can-eat buffet, but they can only orient themselves on reservations. If fewer people reserve, they cook less, if more, they cook more. But what if there's a day no one reserves? maybe no one will come and they wasted tons of food. maybe everyone orders from the menu and the food gets wasted anyways. When suddenly a bunch of people come, the chefs can't cook fast enough as they had to compromise on personell and not enough waiters/ waitresses are present to attend every customer... just reserve as early as you can every time you can, it often is just a free call and a minute of time for much less problems for the places.
Just stumbled upon your channel so I am late into the subject but I have to say your video resonates with me as I am a Demand Manager for an airline. It's been a nightmare to manage since the pandemic started and there are no trends whatsoever to help us manage our routes. Excellent videos!
All Wendover videos are detailed and thoroughly researched and well written - but THIS one was on a COMPLETELY different level... The nuances this video discusses, are brilliantly detailed. "Wow!" That's all I can manage to say! Wow!
There is an absolute minimum cost for tickets. That would be factoring in the cost of operation for that flight. Divide the by the number of seats available and that makes it the absolute lowest cost per seat possible not sure what that would be but it would probably still be in the ballpark of around $150ish speculative.
Oil didn't break, oil futures broke.(derivative based hedging and speculation, tradable contracts to buy/sell 1000 barrels at a fixed price and date in the future.) Basically for a certain delivery date, I recall it was April 2020, there were outstanding contracts for oil purchases, the normal users no longer needed the oil and most buy-side contract holder didn't have any way to take physical delivery or store it so they started selling there contracts, but nobody needed that much oil even if it was cheap so the price kept dropping until it was low enough to get the suppliers on the sell side of contracts to buy back the contracts. The actual daily spot price of oil only dropped a little, but not below production cost.
@JACKSON KUSTER What State ya from? Here in Maine, we're doing surprisingly well, especially considering how few people I see actually wearing masks on a daily basis.
JACKSON KUSTER lol, it's really weird just guessing how confident you were in your answers that you were from NJ. That said, you're not wrong, we're doing fantastic here in NJ, and the country-wide COVID spike when summer hit was really weird to watch. Everyone in the northeast just wondering "wtf, I thought we were done with this shit, what are the rest of you guys doing".
I had a flight from Moscow - Amsterdam - Quito. Both planes were mostly empty and I had to pay 1080 usd instead of the 400-900 usd I would normally pay. 3 previous flights were cancelled too. Flying during a pandemic is horrible.
Really surprised to see so much "stock" footage of YYZ Toronto Pearson and YTZ Billy Bishop Toronto City Centre, Canada isn't usually used a lot in stock footage, especially when it's such an american-centric video using the American airline market. All the memes about Ryanair are spot on though lol
@@vondahe Lol. Love that comment. I live just a few blocks from there. Too many buildings in the way for me to see it from my place, but I used to work at a building that had a great view of it.
@@taleseduardolima It's such a cool airport since you get a great view of downtown Toronto when landing or taking off. Then after you walk through a huge tunnel to get to Toronto, but then you're literally right in downtown. It's super neat. Closest example would be the old Meigs Field in Chicago. Hell, even when Meigs closed Billy Bishop was under pressure to close too. But the city decided against it and encouraged development. And today it's a neat little airport and very interesting.
Pinchie Alarm That’s actually gonna be the name: Half as Expensive. Unlike most budget airlines there will be screens, but only playing Wendover and HAI videos.
Captain Joe: *Teaches me about planes* Mentour Pilot: *Teaches me more about planes* Mustard: *Teaches me about the history of planes* DJ's aviation: *Teaches me about the future of planes* 74 Gear: *Teaches me about airplane movies and flight attendants* Wendover productions: *Teaches me about the aviation industry*
Don't lose the forest for the trees econ students. Simple answer: 1. maximizing profit (not capacity, revenue, price) is the goal of the airline firm, and to do that you need to know 2. the change to demand that the shock (covid scenario) caused, which means ultimately 3. understanding the consumer habits (primarily tastes and preferences, but also governmental restrictions) The real problem isn't anything complicated. It is merely that there is no model, no theory, no real understanding of what all of this will do to consumer habits. some may be temporary (flying for beach vacations) and some may be more permanent (business deciding to conduct meetings by Zoom-like tech instead of traditional flying). The changes to elasticity are also important. Bottom line, until people understand how this will change customers. Nobody knows that. Until then the airline industry will be in limbo --- if that happens long enough the changes will get much more complicated as firms go out of business or merge and costs begin to change.
As a regular business traveler, I know this, but there's something very therapeutic about hearing it all laid out in a sane statistical fashion by somebody smart like you all :)
When I look back at this disaster, back in March...the outbreak was declared. At least in my part of the world. It was really scary seeing the world go quiet one city at a time. I was working during that phase of the outbreak. And I am very thankful to still be working as we get thru this crisis. Everything mentioned in this video, I feel like this video is a really informative analysis on what’s happening in this industry. It’s crazy that people are still traveling about. I get it, we all gotta do things in life. Work. Projects. School & homework. Money to make. Deals to make. Family to see and take care of. Friends too. Contracts to honor. I understand, that’s how the world works. But in your travels everyone, be safe! Be sound! Look after each other. Have a great time! And get to your destination safely and let’s do our best to make the most of our really crazy 2020!
At 9:09, some last-minute travelers have to take a plane due to a sudden death in the family. I had to do this back in 2002. At the time, American had a $400 flat "bereavement" fare from Philly to Tampa. I had to do this again in 2018, was told that fare was long gone. Had to pay a ridiculous $2000 (per person!!) for 2 to fly a route that is highly competitive and normally sells for $350 a ticket. I was raked and highly ticked off at them. Way to go to take advantage of someone in a difficult position.
Also important to note (that was left out) about the Eagle County flight is the main reason travelers would pay such a high premium for this particular flight in January. Skiing. Eagle is close to dozens of amazing resorts including, obviously, Vail.
Very impressive video! I’m always blown away at how you are an expert in so many things and then you come back to aviation, the field I am a professional in, and am blown away at the accuracy of your videos. Great job explaining a very complex subject!
Yep...my Son is a Pilot for Delta and has been furloughed as of October 1. He missed the cut off by less than 90 days. He luckily got a job flying private jets in Europe but hopes to one day go back to his dream job with Delta.
This explained things to me. A couple of months ago, i was booking an important journey to uk. The price of the airline i booked was ridiculously normal while all other airlines had increased their price for more than 3 times. A few days later, my flight was cancelled with no replacement available, only a refund. Then a month later, the flight was available again but the price was like others 3 times more expensive. Now thinking about it, it may be the airline was switching between computer and manual pricing.
Years ago, it was surprising to find Thai Airlines using a Boeing 777 for a 45 minute flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok. A local explained that our flight, the 5pm Friday flight, was quite popular, so Thai used a plane large enough to accommodate everyone who wanted to fly. As the government airline, they had the capital to buy extra aircraft, to be able to fit capacity to demand on the fly, with some aircraft sitting unused. What a concept!
It took me a while to realise, hehe. I looked at the US flag as I believe this is the gate in the Boston Logan Airport that United 175 left from on the 11th of September.
The simple solution is to sell only 85 to 90% of all the seats and the remaining percent charge the highest there so you get the last min people who are rich.
At 5:16 the airport shown is Billy Bishop Airport CYTZ in Toronto which has the distinction of having the shortest regular ferry service in the entire world.
I went to Florida in February before the outbreak closed everything down this year, I booked another trip there for February 2021, and I picked a business class instead of 3rd class seat and it still cost me 150$ less.
I see a lot of comments that companies can't influence "demand" in the market place. So as an economist answer this. Business 1 - supplies 100% of demand at a given time. Demand is now Zero, everyone who wanted whatever it was has it Business 2 - supplies 10% of the demand at a given time. Demand is still at 90% of what it was as everyone who wanted it doesn't have it. An example could be airplanes vs diamond jewelry. Inevitably there will be some who "demand" an airplane ticket but the cost is too high so they use alternative transportation. But arn't all the people who are buying tickets and flying reducing the demand? Meanwhile a diamond jeweler supports their ridiculous prices for "rocks" by keeping demand high, this is done two fold by advertising - making people want it, and pricing - making it cost more than most people will spend. Now imagine a 3rd company, maybe something like Neuralink. Millions of people want a Neuralink but it isn't a finished product. So while the company advertises what they think they can get the product to do, as well as talk about what they plan to be able to price the device at they are creating more and more demand while not actually able to supply any of the demand. In all 3 cases the companies are able to influence demand by Advertising, pricing, and making their product more or less available.
That's because he oversimplified it and gave you the wrong interpretation. You see the high price here and low price there and think you got screwed. But the airlines are operating on thin margins and they broke even. Airlines can literally go bankrupt if they book a bunch of flights in advance and the price of gas changes too much. The reason prices have gone down is not because you are getting a fair rate, it's because the airlines are fucked because they already set up the flights and are now committed to them. Imagine if you booked a band and right after you turned down other potentially profitable bands, this band gets into a publicity shit show and now you won't be able to fill your seats and cover the cost of maintaining the stadium. Option A is that you take a full loss, option B is you cut ticket prices to try to cover as much loss as possible and hope you can make it up later with a more successful group. Option B lets you recover without having to gouge later or get lucky by getting a super high demand gig. I can make it even simpler for you, imagine you can't pay rent and are counting on the government to keep you from getting kicked out. You can either pay what you can or spend it elsewhere, but when the government says evictions can happen again you will have to pay the full amount you owe to prevent getting evicted. That's the airlines right now, they can either go tits up when the bills are due and they didn't make a dent in it or try to make it possible to survive the storm by giving you a discount now and covering some of their committed costs.
I work for delta. Just got hired in December and my hope for a potential career is completely dashed, a lot of employees, around 17000, took an early-out package. Plus many more are taking extended leaves of absence. Hopefully our station doesn’t see any furloughs, because that goes by seniority.
@Porcupine Its more complicated than a simple bailout anyway. Airlines as businesses have traditionally been regulated and restricted almost to communist levels.(This started in the 20s and 30s, the airline "deregulation" circa 1980 removed the government granted monopoly of routes and gov approval of seat prices and schedules.) Just adding a new route or changing the model of airplane on a route, requires a huge stack of paperwork and government approval of the paperwork. Scheduled routes and carriers are restricted different from charter carriers or commuters. Same 767, same route, same number of passengers, but one can just calculate a flight plan and go while the other must jump through a bunch of hoops that can take weeks. (and the passenger would never know which they are actually on as the charter could be contracted to handle overflow for the scheduled airline and even have matching paint.) And if an airline doesn't agree to have its fleet conscripted for war use they won't be granted a certificate to do business, which is both a financial risk from the airline side and from the government side they need to calculate that transport ability into defense strategy and cost. (They can't commandeer an airline that has gone out of business.)
I think the point made in the video was that they priced it too low so they didnt extract the most revenue from the flight. The only type of person that would fly would pay anything to fly
From what I witnessed, CRUISE ships were the main catalyst and purveyors of C 19, added to which, 'Innocent' onshore authorities had no idea as to how , exactly, C 19 had suddenly arrived on the doorsteps of normally inscrutably clean national doorsteps.
Many airlines (outside the US) are also playing games with travelers. They display the flight with a price, you book and pay with a credit card. Later, about two weeks before the flight they simply cancel and they offer you a credit with them instead of a full refund. This happened with me with Air Asia.
I must have bought tickets right before the computer shutoff. Watched prices from Detroit to Las Vegas drop from $400 to $121 dollars. Bought them as I expected that was their lowest. The next week they started to rise again about $30-40 each week. Now tickets are close to their normal price.
Finally back to his home, aviation.
Finally something to make me less anxious
GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I watched this video and it is really not that good compared to my perfect videos. GAGAGAGAGA!!! This is NOT self-promotion! This is the reality! This is the world! We are the people! Don't disl****ke my vide*****s, my dear sam
AxxL I’ve seen you everywhere and your disturbing
Remember Me When You Blow Up
Edit : Know Way
Na bro, he will always be a brick guy to me
Good to see the stock footage companies haven't been heavily affected
They just need to Photoshop masks onto all of their footage.
Vigilant Cosmic Penguin you cannot photoshop a mask that is for images and stock footage are vidoes so you need something like adobe after effects or final cut pro
Hean Stone photoshop deez nuts
@@heanstone1327 wow thank you for your insightful comment, where would we be without it
Hean Stone who?
Logistics, COVID and airplanes?
The dream subject for Wendover
Wendover if you see this: love your videos
I don’t know
Magic
@@thekuygerian eye movements, duh smh😒
The infinity gauntlet of Wendover’s existence
@@thekuygerian It's a stock footage overlaid with footage that he filmed on another laptop.
I work at an airline revenue management department and this guys videos on the airlines are spot on. I was actually part of the modelling efforts post Covid and we tried to predict the new demand signal. It was a very difficult problem. Now things are beginning to look normal again thank god!
hmmmm ok but what did you do for a living 20 years ago Ed Powers?
5:24 Shoutout to that sailing boat that did an emergency loop to avoid hitting the ferry
Nice spot
By the way, do someone know what is the name of that airport?
Agree, but doesn't the sail boat have the right of way?
Muhammad Daffa Nasdyansya Rasyad looks similar to Billy Bishop airport
Definitely Billy Bishop Airport in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Recognized it immediately when I saw it.
I thought that was a bird like a seagull 😂
Sam, I don't want to alarm you, but there's this guy impersonating you on TH-cam. Granted, his videos are Half as Interesting as yours are, but I thought you should know.
Gold
I get it
And he covers the subject of bricks often, to throw the Feds off the real subjects.
@@aryboss1514 here, have a gold star sticker sir!
wow i just realized this and i've been watching both of "their "videos for like two years xD
aviation industry: we cannot lower prices anymore
ryanair: ~increase ads in airplanes~
Wait Ryanair has the capability to show ads? But that costs money to be able to have a system to show ads.
I thought that they only went for the most basic chair with out even a seat pocket because it's cheaper to not have any.
The only reason they do have a tray table is to sell you water at triple value.
@@sirBrouwer Yes, they do have the most basic chairs, it feels like traveling on a bus.
They show ads the analog way, digital ads are too expensive! The doors for the overhead compartments all have ads printed on them, they sell lottery tickets on board, once they even tried to charge for the toilet. Ryanair planes are like a newspapers, if there is space available, you can put an ad there. I am surprised they haven't printed ads outside of the plane yet.
@@Julia-rm2vw : they haven't printed ads outside of the plane yet.
ryanair: quick... write that down.. write that down...
@@Julia-rm2vwthat would require to much time at the paint shop. Stickers would add extra weight and drag so more fuel cost to a single trip.
they could ad add space to the uniform of the flight crew. Like a sports jersey. a add on the front and back.
@@JagdeepNagpal They actually have, some Ryanair Aircraft have advertisements/Stickers on them advertising Cities and other organisations
Wendover is probably single handedly financing the entire aviation stock video industry
,😆😆😆
Hi there - I'm a travel consultant, and previously worked in airline operations - I found this video fascinating and absolutely hit the nail on the head about how absolutely insane this situation is in the industry - I've forwarded this on to all my colleagues! Thanks!
This probably explains something I found a couple nights ago that I thought was pretty extraordinary.
I was looking for flights from Philadelphia to Tokyo. Not gonna be an easy or cheap trip no matter what, with a minimum of one layover - most likely in Los Angeles. Those were generally around $800-$1200. However, using Kayak I found a pretty extraordinary route. It used three short-term layovers, and managed to get the cost down to a mere $400. From Philadelphia to Las Vegas, an hour later from Vegas To Los Angeles, and an hour later from LA to San Francisco, followed by an overnight stay in SanFran, finishing off with a 1pm flight from SanFran to Tokyo. The total trip is 44 hours, although ~20 of them are spent off of a plane. I’m going to guess the reason for massive save in cost is the much lower demand for the individual legs of the trip, causing the overall trip to *half* in price.
Surprisingly, he didn’t roast Newark
That's reserved for Half as Interesting
They got new terminal now. That is why.
@@nntflow7058 - New terminal or not, you're still in Newark.
D 349 what about lagarbage?
@@VisibilityFoggy and it's still United.
Wendover 2018: How Airlines price flights
Wendover 2020: How Covid broke pricing flights
As a pilot for a regional Airline, as much as I disparage Airline management, I have to thank American Airlines for two major reasons. They increased my flying to Florida destinations that I enjoy, and I have not been to New York in almost a year.
it's like the chinese restaurant i went to today:
they offer all-you-can-eat buffet, but they can only orient themselves on reservations.
If fewer people reserve, they cook less, if more, they cook more.
But what if there's a day no one reserves? maybe no one will come and they wasted tons of food. maybe everyone orders from the menu and the food gets wasted anyways.
When suddenly a bunch of people come, the chefs can't cook fast enough as they had to compromise on personell and not enough waiters/ waitresses are present to attend every customer...
just reserve as early as you can every time you can, it often is just a free call and a minute of time for much less problems for the places.
did I detect a pun?
That's why most of these "all you can eat"-type places require reservations and simply don't take walk-ins (at least for the AYCE offer).
This is actually what I do for work. Almost everything is spot on. I’m a Director of Revenue for a large company.
Is your name similar to the company's name? xD
*cue David Attenborough voice* “here we see the Sam in his natural habitat, talking about planes”
I can hear him!
Most important stuff related to planes in 2020:
1. Flight Sim 2020
2. Wendover
...
14. Actual planes and airlines
I want a video of Wendover talking about MS Flight Simulator
If sam actually played Flight sim to get background footage for his vids
3. Mustard?
Finally airlines will be more humble and give us our 2 free bags back.
I wouldn't mind a couple inches of space.
One can only hope
no they wont lol. 'were in this together' they say, but i promise, in 5 years its back to screwing the customers.
@@bigtony77 That's what happens when competition is cut down. They shouldn't have allowed the mergers than happen over the years.
Hopefully not. I travel without luggage and resent having to pay for those that travel with 2.
Just stumbled upon your channel so I am late into the subject but I have to say your video resonates with me as I am a Demand Manager for an airline. It's been a nightmare to manage since the pandemic started and there are no trends whatsoever to help us manage our routes.
Excellent videos!
2:04 I see that stock footage lady is typing with her trackpad...
I think he photoshopped the google text in
She is a witch, and more powerful than Voldemort I think
Worst typing stock-footage EVER! You can be assured I will take to the internet to express my disgust.
mouse gestures... duh!
And is using two cursors at once... 2:08
I saw the prices of flights from the US to Italy for $75 at the start of the pandemic.
Holy shit, it'd literally die to go there at that price.
@@MezzoForte4 lol
I live in Tunisia, 100 miles south of Italy. Flights to Rome cost more than that. I would have loved to visit the US.
@@MuzzaHukka I wouldn't visit the US right now. It's full of idiots who believe the virus doesn't exist.
Same as Siberia
All Wendover videos are detailed and thoroughly researched and well written - but THIS one was on a COMPLETELY different level... The nuances this video discusses, are brilliantly detailed. "Wow!" That's all I can manage to say! Wow!
Imagine if the computers broke so badly it ended up like oil
I would like to travel to NYC
Understandable, have $35
😂😂
Lol yes. I too would like to trace for near to nothing.. as I have near to nothing in regards to the American currency
There is an absolute minimum cost for tickets. That would be factoring in the cost of operation for that flight. Divide the by the number of seats available and that makes it the absolute lowest cost per seat possible not sure what that would be but it would probably still be in the ballpark of around $150ish speculative.
Oil didn't break, oil futures broke.(derivative based hedging and speculation, tradable contracts to buy/sell 1000 barrels at a fixed price and date in the future.) Basically for a certain delivery date, I recall it was April 2020, there were outstanding contracts for oil purchases, the normal users no longer needed the oil and most buy-side contract holder didn't have any way to take physical delivery or store it so they started selling there contracts, but nobody needed that much oil even if it was cheap so the price kept dropping until it was low enough to get the suppliers on the sell side of contracts to buy back the contracts. The actual daily spot price of oil only dropped a little, but not below production cost.
Airlines: "MAKE AMERICA PREDICTABLE AGAIN"
"US COVID cases spiked"
Northeast: *grabs popcorn*
My state used to have the second most cases reguraly getting more than 4,000 cases per day and now we only got 300 new cases yesterday
@JACKSON KUSTER So you state is doing a good job? Or at least a better job?
@JACKSON KUSTER What State ya from? Here in Maine, we're doing surprisingly well, especially considering how few people I see actually wearing masks on a daily basis.
JACKSON KUSTER lol, it's really weird just guessing how confident you were in your answers that you were from NJ.
That said, you're not wrong, we're doing fantastic here in NJ, and the country-wide COVID spike when summer hit was really weird to watch. Everyone in the northeast just wondering "wtf, I thought we were done with this shit, what are the rest of you guys doing".
@JACKSON KUSTER jokes on you I live in Mass, which has even less cases
I had a flight from Moscow - Amsterdam - Quito. Both planes were mostly empty and I had to pay 1080 usd instead of the 400-900 usd I would normally pay. 3 previous flights were cancelled too.
Flying during a pandemic is horrible.
Hearing him pronounce Ryan-air made me learn how a pause even as small as that can truly *break* a man's world view.
Rip
So difficult to include a time stamp?
@@FarfettilLejl on mobile it is
@@oliverm1255 it's not though. Just add @ followed by the time and TH-cam will do it automatically.
Eg @1:00
@@ailinos No need for @
"failed to consider the possibility of the unimaginable". . .
a.k.a get stick bugged
Really surprised to see so much "stock" footage of YYZ Toronto Pearson and YTZ Billy Bishop Toronto City Centre, Canada isn't usually used a lot in stock footage, especially when it's such an american-centric video using the American airline market.
All the memes about Ryanair are spot on though lol
AJ Zebadua its like all airport stock footage is Pearson, I see it so often lol
Oh my god, you're right!
And a lot of SVO as well!!!
@@epiccollision I think maybe Pearson is just impressive looking as far as airports go. Plus it's cheap to film shit in Canada.
5:17 mesmerising footage.
Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport
@@taleseduardolima Thank you! I was hoping someone had identified the airport which looks so weird I looked carefully to see if it was CGI.
@@vondahe Lol. Love that comment. I live just a few blocks from there. Too many buildings in the way for me to see it from my place, but I used to work at a building that had a great view of it.
@@taleseduardolima It's such a cool airport since you get a great view of downtown Toronto when landing or taking off. Then after you walk through a huge tunnel to get to Toronto, but then you're literally right in downtown. It's super neat. Closest example would be the old Meigs Field in Chicago. Hell, even when Meigs closed Billy Bishop was under pressure to close too. But the city decided against it and encouraged development. And today it's a neat little airport and very interesting.
One day we will see
WENDOVER AIRLINES🔥
😎😎
There is a Wendover Airstrip somewhere in Utah
Pinchie Alarm That’s actually gonna be the name: Half as Expensive. Unlike most budget airlines there will be screens, but only playing Wendover and HAI videos.
“The unimaginable” *cue montage of every epidemiologist saying the “it’s not if but when” line in a documentary from the last 100 years*
Feels good to see another aviation video from you.
Cool seeing the Rhine bridge connecting Kehl and Strasbourg, a bridge I used to cross frequently by bike before the borders were closed in March.
Captain Joe: *Teaches me about planes*
Mentour Pilot: *Teaches me more about planes*
Mustard: *Teaches me about the history of planes*
DJ's aviation: *Teaches me about the future of planes*
74 Gear: *Teaches me about airplane movies and flight attendants*
Wendover productions: *Teaches me about the aviation industry*
CW Lemoine: Teaches me about TOMCATS!
And 74 gear
@@romainsavioz5466 thanks. I've edited it now 😆😅
@@TheAviationChannel you should try Mustard channel too. High quality video content and great presentation.
@@airizsyah3439 🤣i'm already on that too.
8:14
This footage is used every single time in aviation related videos
I'm not first, I'm not last, but when Wendover posts, I click fast
you however were technically last at the exact time of writing your comment; the specification of your temporal coordinates weren't precise smh.
@@michaelrichardson3834 You shall be my oracle for you are wise in the way of wisdom.
Xd same
Greedy comments fighting to be the most liked is a digital war zone
@@kyirid ok :) you get a 👎 from me
How do you even go about researching a topic like this?!?! This channel is great
I can't wait to see Sam launches his Wendover Airlines as a full service airline, and Half as Airworthy as the budget airline.
Don't lose the forest for the trees econ students. Simple answer:
1. maximizing profit (not capacity, revenue, price) is the goal of the airline firm, and to do that you need to know
2. the change to demand that the shock (covid scenario) caused, which means ultimately
3. understanding the consumer habits (primarily tastes and preferences, but also governmental restrictions)
The real problem isn't anything complicated. It is merely that there is no model, no theory, no real understanding of what all of this will do to consumer habits. some may be temporary (flying for beach vacations) and some may be more permanent (business deciding to conduct meetings by Zoom-like tech instead of traditional flying). The changes to elasticity are also important. Bottom line, until people understand how this will change customers. Nobody knows that.
Until then the airline industry will be in limbo --- if that happens long enough the changes will get much more complicated as firms go out of business or merge and costs begin to change.
2:02 Lady moves her finger on the trackpad even though the screen shows stuff is being typed lmao.
We had one case and now we’re back to zero. The West should’ve done what we did
Yes, *SHOOT THE CASES*
I genuinely cannot tell whether this is the real kim jong un or not
Gunshots to the back of the head have a much higher fatality rate than covid19 and much more efficient too
Marcus Nesbitt he’s real
Wait is this the real Kim?
As a regular business traveler, I know this, but there's something very therapeutic about hearing it all laid out in a sane statistical fashion by somebody smart like you all :)
When I look back at this disaster, back in March...the outbreak was declared. At least in my part of the world. It was really scary seeing the world go quiet one city at a time. I was working during that phase of the outbreak. And I am very thankful to still be working as we get thru this crisis. Everything mentioned in this video, I feel like this video is a really informative analysis on what’s happening in this industry. It’s crazy that people are still traveling about. I get it, we all gotta do things in life. Work. Projects. School & homework. Money to make. Deals to make. Family to see and take care of. Friends too. Contracts to honor. I understand, that’s how the world works. But in your travels everyone, be safe! Be sound! Look after each other. Have a great time! And get to your destination safely and let’s do our best to make the most of our really crazy 2020!
Cant wait for things to go back to normal
When we can travel to India again for some Biryani am I right?
It's not going back. They say new normal for a reason.
There is no going back.
This is the start of the new normal.
Amazing as always. I am an airline worker and we are really struggling 😪
12:49
Did anybody else notice the mask on the plane? lol
Hayo1706 YES I thought it was just me
I found it funny. And the clip starts at 12:43.
@@grahamturner2640 12:42 is more accurate
Spraying toxic bleach everywhere. I am due to fly soon. Im taking lots of elemental silver with me.
Searching through the comments for this!!
very wonderful video! it's just the right length and doesn't let me feel like I have more questions than answers like from shorter videos.
This guy can extract so many interesting topics from a seemingly boring industry. Amazing!
Ryanair: 100% of that 96% occupancy hated absolutely every minute of it...
You get what you pay for....
Ryanair is one of the best cheap airliners so stop being a winy child
@@inactive859 nah
Zannels ...Michael...is that you???
Chris Gee ?
This is the history lesson our kids are doing to learn for their final exams 😂😂
At 9:09, some last-minute travelers have to take a plane due to a sudden death in the family. I had to do this back in 2002. At the time, American had a $400 flat "bereavement" fare from Philly to Tampa. I had to do this again in 2018, was told that fare was long gone. Had to pay a ridiculous $2000 (per person!!) for 2 to fly a route that is highly competitive and normally sells for $350 a ticket. I was raked and highly ticked off at them. Way to go to take advantage of someone in a difficult position.
Also important to note (that was left out) about the Eagle County flight is the main reason travelers would pay such a high premium for this particular flight in January. Skiing. Eagle is close to dozens of amazing resorts including, obviously, Vail.
The footage @ 7:32 in the video is not Eagle County but my hometown Innsbruck. Love it!
"how often was that seat next to you free?" The seats next to me could be free?
Me: sees airline in the title
Also Me: clicks immediately
Z Shieh lmaooooo
I clicked before I saw it. I just saw Wendover and clicked
TL;DR - Bada bing bada boom, fewer planes are going vroom
Thanks, now I don't even need the video.
Very impressive video! I’m always blown away at how you are an expert in so many things and then you come back to aviation, the field I am a professional in, and am blown away at the accuracy of your videos. Great job explaining a very complex subject!
Yep...my Son is a Pilot for Delta and has been furloughed as of October 1. He missed the cut off by less than 90 days. He luckily got a job flying private jets in Europe but hopes to one day go back to his dream job with Delta.
5:17 I believe that's Toronto's Billy Bishop airport.
You got it. goo.gl/maps/ZgLeU5qu1YPWJGXj8
It is. I've flown there.
We are back to the airlines 🔥
varun kamble 🔥
Not even a pandemic can stop Wendover from making his plane videos
This explained things to me. A couple of months ago, i was booking an important journey to uk. The price of the airline i booked was ridiculously normal while all other airlines had increased their price for more than 3 times. A few days later, my flight was cancelled with no replacement available, only a refund. Then a month later, the flight was available again but the price was like others 3 times more expensive. Now thinking about it, it may be the airline was switching between computer and manual pricing.
This video was done 3 years ago. Would be interesting to see a followup.
Ugh everything associated with this virus is so depressing.
I disagree. The airline industry taking a massive hit is good news when it comes to the climate crisis.
@@normang3668 aaa gaay.
@Red Line XD i agree
@@normang3668 Ok Greta calm down
@@frankib8620 Not a fan of facts, huh?
When COVID hit I was more worried about no more wendover airplane videos then the Airplane industry.
Ryanair May have had 96% of its seats filled in 2019 but that amount on average probably went to 95% after their landings 😳
I love your aviation videos! This one was very well made as always.
Years ago, it was surprising to find Thai Airlines using a Boeing 777 for a 45 minute flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok.
A local explained that our flight, the 5pm Friday flight, was quite popular, so Thai used a plane large enough to accommodate everyone who wanted to fly.
As the government airline, they had the capital to buy extra aircraft, to be able to fit capacity to demand on the fly, with some aircraft sitting unused.
What a concept!
Wendover Productions: "How COVID-19..."
TH-cam: "DEMONITIZED!!!!"
Wasn't that only at the beginning of the pandemic?
I think the sponsorships negate the need for ad revenue.
I know, I was kidding anyway. 😅 Simon used to gripe about it.
Allegedly
@@Zyo117 😂
12:43 Even an airplane is wearing a mask, what is your excuse?
It took me a while to realise, hehe. I looked at the US flag as I believe this is the gate in the Boston Logan Airport that United 175 left from on the 11th of September.
I’m outside of 6 feet
Well, it's got a nose, doesn't it?
They don't make mask small enough for us humans.
2:02 that woman using her mind to type
good piece, all the information makes sense and adds up aside from the underlying details we just don't know about.
I love learning about an industry’s business model. I always find it interesting
Take a shot every time he says demand
The computer CALCULATES, but only the human brain COMPREHENDS. That's why.
Interesting factor in the future of AI
I thought it was funny when he said the computer got confused. Sounded like it was doing exactly what it was designed to do.
It's funny that an airplane looked like it had a huge mask on in the clip at 12:43.
The simple solution is to sell only 85 to 90% of all the seats and the remaining percent charge the highest there so you get the last min people who are rich.
9:28 - Bournemouth airport in Dorset, UK. This is the only time we’ve seen something like this because it’s a small seaside town on the south coast.
Eleanor Dukes-Swyer was looking through the comments to see if anyone else recognised it. I drive past the airport every day for work. Quite the sight
COVID-19: I broke the airline industry
Wendover: And where did that bring you? Back to me.
4:27 - What you tell her
5:34 - When she sees it
The last time i was this early, planes were still flying...
At 5:16 the airport shown is Billy Bishop Airport CYTZ in Toronto which has the distinction of having the shortest regular ferry service in the entire world.
I went to Florida in February before the outbreak closed everything down this year, I booked another trip there for February 2021, and I picked a business class instead of 3rd class seat and it still cost me 150$ less.
I see a lot of comments that companies can't influence "demand" in the market place. So as an economist answer this.
Business 1 - supplies 100% of demand at a given time. Demand is now Zero, everyone who wanted whatever it was has it
Business 2 - supplies 10% of the demand at a given time. Demand is still at 90% of what it was as everyone who wanted it doesn't have it.
An example could be airplanes vs diamond jewelry. Inevitably there will be some who "demand" an airplane ticket but the cost is too high so they use alternative transportation. But arn't all the people who are buying tickets and flying reducing the demand?
Meanwhile a diamond jeweler supports their ridiculous prices for "rocks" by keeping demand high, this is done two fold by advertising - making people want it, and pricing - making it cost more than most people will spend.
Now imagine a 3rd company, maybe something like Neuralink. Millions of people want a Neuralink but it isn't a finished product. So while the company advertises what they think they can get the product to do, as well as talk about what they plan to be able to price the device at they are creating more and more demand while not actually able to supply any of the demand.
In all 3 cases the companies are able to influence demand by Advertising, pricing, and making their product more or less available.
All I got from this is the airlines have been price gouging us for years.
That's because he oversimplified it and gave you the wrong interpretation. You see the high price here and low price there and think you got screwed. But the airlines are operating on thin margins and they broke even. Airlines can literally go bankrupt if they book a bunch of flights in advance and the price of gas changes too much. The reason prices have gone down is not because you are getting a fair rate, it's because the airlines are fucked because they already set up the flights and are now committed to them. Imagine if you booked a band and right after you turned down other potentially profitable bands, this band gets into a publicity shit show and now you won't be able to fill your seats and cover the cost of maintaining the stadium. Option A is that you take a full loss, option B is you cut ticket prices to try to cover as much loss as possible and hope you can make it up later with a more successful group. Option B lets you recover without having to gouge later or get lucky by getting a super high demand gig. I can make it even simpler for you, imagine you can't pay rent and are counting on the government to keep you from getting kicked out. You can either pay what you can or spend it elsewhere, but when the government says evictions can happen again you will have to pay the full amount you owe to prevent getting evicted. That's the airlines right now, they can either go tits up when the bills are due and they didn't make a dent in it or try to make it possible to survive the storm by giving you a discount now and covering some of their committed costs.
“COVID has turned the job of those in revenue management at airlines closer to an art than a science.”
God that’s beautiful.
I work for delta. Just got hired in December and my hope for a potential career is completely dashed, a lot of employees, around 17000, took an early-out package. Plus many more are taking extended leaves of absence. Hopefully our station doesn’t see any furloughs, because that goes by seniority.
Computer: *Does exactly what it's designed to do*
Wendover: "...which confused the computer even more"
Internet: How many stock airline related videos do you require
Sam: Yes
Government: The Hospitals don't need PPE, fund the Airlines!
Everyone Else: F the Airlines, we need medicine.
@Porcupine yeah qantas has
im still surprised that second thought and wendover didn't fight yet
@Porcupine Its more complicated than a simple bailout anyway. Airlines as businesses have traditionally been regulated and restricted almost to communist levels.(This started in the 20s and 30s, the airline "deregulation" circa 1980 removed the government granted monopoly of routes and gov approval of seat prices and schedules.)
Just adding a new route or changing the model of airplane on a route, requires a huge stack of paperwork and government approval of the paperwork. Scheduled routes and carriers are restricted different from charter carriers or commuters. Same 767, same route, same number of passengers, but one can just calculate a flight plan and go while the other must jump through a bunch of hoops that can take weeks. (and the passenger would never know which they are actually on as the charter could be contracted to handle overflow for the scheduled airline and even have matching paint.)
And if an airline doesn't agree to have its fleet conscripted for war use they won't be granted a certificate to do business, which is both a financial risk from the airline side and from the government side they need to calculate that transport ability into defense strategy and cost. (They can't commandeer an airline that has gone out of business.)
@Porcupine American Airlines, southwest, united, and delta
"That's because the humans were able to realize something that the computers could not."
Pretty freaky if you think about it on a more general scale.
Finally a new video from Wendover. YOU’VE BEEN SLACKING BRO
This video needs a 2022 update
If this was also the case for Spirit Airlines, wed be having $0.79 flights
I tried to book one of their wing seats, but the windscreen was an optional $300.
And due to the fact that the airlines didn’t really want to lower their prices so guess what - people just didn’t fly.
I think the point made in the video was that they priced it too low so they didnt extract the most revenue from the flight. The only type of person that would fly would pay anything to fly
yup. years of greed finally caught up to them. I'd rather drive across the country than fly in a miserable ass cabin possibly contacting covid.
@@cooldude2251 than you will pay for fuel, car parts, oil, and taxes. The automotive industry is super greedy too.
Covid 19 did spread around the world very quickly in part due to airlines....
From what I witnessed, CRUISE ships were the main catalyst and purveyors of C 19, added to which, 'Innocent' onshore authorities had no idea as to how , exactly, C 19 had suddenly arrived on the doorsteps of normally inscrutably clean national doorsteps.
Many airlines (outside the US) are also playing games with travelers. They display the flight with a price, you book and pay with a credit card. Later, about two weeks before the flight they simply cancel and they offer you a credit with them instead of a full refund. This happened with me with Air Asia.
I must have bought tickets right before the computer shutoff. Watched prices from Detroit to Las Vegas drop from $400 to $121 dollars. Bought them as I expected that was their lowest. The next week they started to rise again about $30-40 each week. Now tickets are close to their normal price.
Alternative title: The logistics of COVID-19 Breaking the Airline Pricing Model