The Osmose... Firstly, let me say that I love this beast - I have played it every day since it arrived six months ago, and still haven't tired of it. I also think the programming is excellent, and I wouldn't want to detract from that. A lot of the sounds remind me of the Continuumini (which I also own and love), which makes sense given the shared DNA. For me, though, its uniqueness is also in some ways its weakness - how usable are some of these signature sounds for making actual pieces of music? I've seen a lot of instances online where some users are a little critical, deeming the sounds "harsh" or "metallic", with some players preferring to use the Osmose as a controller for a third-party outboard synth (MPE or otherwise) that offers more traditional synth sounds. What I've tried to do here (without taking a dive into the Haken Eagenmatrix - something I'd rather not do now or anytime soon) is to "tame" some of these patches by messing about with the macros until I had achieved what I felt was a more "rounded" sound. Whilst this might seem at first to be counter to what the beast is supposed to be about, it was never intended to be that way; whilst the resulting patches are a lot more "playable" (for me, at least), they retain the subtleties and nuances afforded by the MPE keyboard and controllers so that, whilst they are (IMHO) more usable, they still present sonic textures not available using any other combination of synth keybed and MPE instrument. As a keyboard player, I simply wanted a set of sounds that I could just use, without having to dive into the complexities of the Eagan Matrix or mess about with macros live, on the fly. One of the other criticisms I see levelled against the various Osmose videos online is that there is too much wiggling and bending of notes. It can be really easy to get carried away with the vibrato - because of the kinda haptic/tactile feedback loop going on when you wiggle your finger on a key. It's satisfying and great fun. However, by applying a little judicious self-control, it is possible to rein in some of these excesses using the various parameters on the synth in order to tame the level of "wiggle"; the application of a little restraint can result in a sound that is a LOT more convincing. Just because the board is capable of all these expressive gestures doesn't mean that they have to be present in every patch - it's just nice to have that capability when you need it. So, many of these patches are leaning toward the more conventional, with just a hint of added expression from time to time as required. During the recording of this demo, Expressive E released an updated manual which made me realize that I could save each patch with its preferred expression control settings (really useful in patches like the organs, which really need to have the key pitch bend turned off). However, the more presets I saved with this information, the slower the Osmose became to change patches until eventually it crashed altogether. Luckily the same manual had a link to a troubleshooting page where I found the instructions to perform a reset. Luckily, too, all my sounds survived intact, but without the expression settings, so the patches in the zip file linked below don't have this information saved to them. So... to the sounds in this demo. As I was working through the various patches on the Osmose, I would tweak them to a state that I liked. If this required more than a couple of quick changes, I then saved the patch to one of the free user locations as a "favourite". It's that collection of favourites that are presented here - partly because yes, they are my favourites, and partly because they differ from the standard onboard settings the board is shipped with, so may prove interesting to existing users. A lot of my preferred sounds are of the more ambient/atmospheric variety (although there's also a good representation of the trademark bells, percussion and fx patches) and yes, I know there's a lot of reverb on some of them - I also own a Hydrasynth, and a lot of patches on there are awash with vast amounts of reverb so I think I may have been influenced by those. Having put together an initial collection of my favourite patches, I went back and listened to a load more Osmose demos online, picking up on some of the patches that sounded good in the hands of other users - and then went back and worked my way through some of these other presets. One of the things that struck me most was just how different the Osmose can sound in different users' hands. It's so expressive that each individual player makes it sound like a different keyboard, just down to their style of playing. I have to mention in particular the TH-cam user Cuckoo, whose video demo (th-cam.com/video/uXb4jeBpqyc/w-d-xo.html) made me go back and work through a number of patches again, with the discipline of using the lightest of touches that he advocates - it's amazing how expressive this thing is. There are just so many great sounds onboard; I wish there were more user slots to allow you to store them all. My original collection has been modified a few times to include new patches. What all the sounds presented here have in common, however, is that they have all been tweaked in some way and therefore stored as a different base preset to the original. Sometimes the changes are minor, sometimes more drastic. So, for those thinking of buying an Osmose, this demo presents a different set of sounds to those you're likely to hear elsewhere; for existing users, there may be a few sounds here that take your fancy; a link to a zip file containing all of the presets showcased here is given below. For the demo, I'm using an expression pedal (to allow me to move the slider and effect changes on the fly, "hands-free") and a sustain pedal (which is usually routed to something other than sustain). At the time of recording, the expression pedal doubles as a controller for the onboard slider; I've seen requests for a firmware update to uncouple the two, giving a second layer of expression, but for now it is as it is. The sustain pedal I'm using is a non-continuous one, so it's either on or off. This doesn't mean, however, that the value it's controlling has to be 0 or 127 - the Osmose allows you to set the upper and lower values to be anything you want, so I have. This means that I'm often using the sustain pedal to switch between two different variations of the same sound. I made this demo over a period of about a week; this is whittled down from about eight hours' worth of audio. Even in its edited form, it's still a big listen - nearly two hours of noodling (a double album of Osmose sounds)! Probably the best way to tackle it is in the same way that I often listen to longer demos online - I just let it run in the background as I'm doing other stuff, swapping back to the demo to have a look at what sound is playing if there's something that particularly grabs my interest. I played through the sounds alphabetically, which is a shame in some ways as a lot of the best patches are towards the end of the demo (for example, the patch "tender stuck" at 01:41:21 really shows off a few of the board's unique features: polyphonic aftertouch, different sounds depending on initial touch, individual pitch bend and depth of expression). As mentioned above, I've marked particular favourites with an asterisk. All the sounds you hear were played live, direct to a digital recorder, with no overdubs or additional effects, and using only the keyboard and two attached pedals. At no time did I modify any of the macros using the control panel as I was playing; everything has been set up to play live. Link to .zip file containing all these presets (though not in the same order): www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a2f9qk894dfa4hluzdeg1/Osmose-Custom-Presets.zip?rlkey=zx0xvb50mm939vgz46k7ql3ms&dl=0 You don't need to have dropbox installed in order to download it - just go to the link, and wait for the Download button to appear at the top right of the screen (be patient - this can take a few seconds). Once it has appeared, click the button (you may have to press Enter), and select Direct Download to save it to the location of your choice. The .zip file contains a backup made using the "Advanced" option in the Osmose updater; the order is different to the playing order here because I've modified it over time; my guess is that you could go back and edit the eight text files in the backup to change the order if you wanted to do a full restore, but I was advised by a senior member of the Osmose Facebook group against such wilful foolhardiness! Otherwise, I guess you could load patches individually using the Haken editor, though I have not tried this. I have to stress that I can take no responsibility if anything goes wrong with these; the Osmose can, in my experience be temperamental at times, so follow all the usual advice and DO A BACKUP FIRST!!! Update: Alphabetically-ordered list for use with EE backup here: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/atb7sqfu3rq6kz95bd307/Osmose-Custom-Patches.zip?rlkey=nb2rddtvibpdkaaye1wksclju&dl=0 This contains all the sounds in the order in which they are played here. Videos such as this take a number of hours to plan, play, edit and prepare. I never ask for any payment for any of the soundbanks I link to on my TH-cam videos but, if you download these sounds, please consider liking and subscribing. I don't post often, so you're not going to be bugged by lots of notifications, and the chances are that, if you liked this one, you're going to find the next one interesting too. And, if you don't, you can always cancel, it costs nothing :-) Enjoy :-)
excellent demo and commentary!! I bought the Osmose recently and I can say with certitude that it's going to be a gold mine of creativity for more than a decade for so many people
Wow, this is the best demo I've seen for the sounds of the Osmose. Your playing is also wonderful, it amazes me even more when I think that it's all coming from a "keyboard".
A thousand of thanks for the custom patches ! And congratulations for your keyboard playing which makes us forget all the penguins amateurs who demonstrate to us on TH-cam their musical emptiness !
At the very least, I would like to say a big thank you, Mr Bill, for your invaluable contribution in creating inspiring sound samples and providing the community with carefully configured sound presets.
Beautiful sounds and thanks for the patches - I will try some of these on my Osmose. Particularly love Beny's Territory (and your playing) - definite echoes of Jean Michel Jarre there :). Thanks
Thanks for your comments! Let me know how you get on with the patches are there were, initially, some problems with a few blank patches - but these should now all have been ironed out.
Brill as always Bill!! Not really dug in to mine yet tbh (time really ...) but it is fab. Link pinned would be very welcomed 🙏 (P.s still got your old GEM S2Turbo 😂😂.......)
Link et al should be up now. Yes, it takes a LOT of time to get used to, and I haven't even started with the Eagan Matrix! Glas to hear you've still got the S2; I may be getting rid of the Equinox soon - but I'll bung a demo up on here before I do 🙂
Fantastic sounds is a little to describe your sounds, I have to use the same term for your playing, which is impressive and suitable for every sound you have made. I sincerely hope that I will become the owner of Osmose one of these days. I'm only worried about how I'll handle loading your sounds. I don't know if your libraries are uploaded automatically (by reading the txt files attached in the folder), or if something else has to be done? I don't know how to start the upload? Thank you so much for sharding your library, and for making such an impressive presentation. I wish you all the best in life and music, you are really wonderful!
Thank you for your kind remarks. How you load the sounds depends on which method you use but either one is fairly intuitive to use once you have the interface open. Best of luck with getting the Osmose! 🙂
@@predragkalajdzijevic7146 You can use the Haken Editor to load individual sounds, or the Osmose Updater software to load in the whole lot in one go (this would overwrite any saved user presets you have, so you would probably want to take a backup of those first).
Hi Michael. The links are in my pinned comment at the top of the comments section. I understand from another commenter that these don't seem to be compatible with the latest firmware upgrade. I need to use these for an upcoming project but, once that's done, I will upload a new version for that firmware version - it seems that the upgrade keeps your custom pathces and reorganises them into a new list but I don't want to risk that until I've finished what I need to do with them!
Sorry to bother you, but I have no idea what it could be. Tonight I updated the firmware from v.1.1.3 rev.2 to v.2.0.15. I tried to load your sounds (with new firmware) using update user sounds. However, the new firmware didn't recognize your sounds (they were all in the folder I pointed to). I got an error with the message that there are no presets in the folder. Do you have any idea what the problem is? Thanks in advance, and all the best.
I haven't upgraded the firmware yet, mainly because I'm concerned about losing all my patches! I don't know if you're a part of the Facebook Osmose Users group, but I've been asking some questions there. There don't seem to be any definitive answers, though a couple of users have said that they have upgraded and their own custom patches seem to have remained intact (albeit in a different order). I don't know, though, if the patches here can be uploaded directly using the new firmware - it may be that they have to be in place before the upgrade (which isn't a lot of use to you right now, I know). Did you have the patches uploaded before upgrading the firmware, or are you trying to load them into an Osmose that has already been upgraded? My best guess right now is that I will probably need to upgrade myself and then save a new backup of these patches using the new firmware, but I'm loathe to do that right now because I have a project coming up over the next few weeks where I will need these patches to be there. There are two sets of the patches here, one made using the Osmose Update utility and the other using the Haken Editor software. I'm not at all familiar with the latter, but I have it on the laptop and used it to create that second upload - and you can, apparently, load individual or groups of patches using the Editor. Not sure if you've tried both methods, but the Haken Editor might succeed where the other fails. I will need to upgrade at some time because I understand that some new patches are due to be released in the not-too-distant future that will require the new firmware in place. Sorry I can't be of more help here - it's always tricky when new firmware comes out, and I'm waiting just now until I can get a bit more feedback on the best way forward. Best of luck, and let me know how you get on.
@@billyruss First, thank you very much for your quick and very comprehensive reply. You are really wonderful. I haven't tried individual loading via Hacken Editor. I haven't installed it yet. I've only owned an Osmos for a few days, and so far have had no experience with mpe instruments. I did not expect problems with user presets. I thought it would be easy. I make a small digression, since I own a Hidrasinth (like you), I hope that the midi connection of these two instruments will bring interesting experiences. Since Hidrasynth can receive information from the mpe controller. All the best.
@@billyruss I contacted technical support for Osmose. Here is part of their answer: "With the new preset format we use, the new Haken Editor delivered with firmware 2.0 was stripped of most of the preset management/browsing functionality. Only importing single presets in the current Editor and then saving them via the Osmose GUI is currently possible." It made me very sad, but what can be done. A little digression. Sometimes some keys have a clicking sound (perhaps it's better to say a little screeching). It depends on where they are pressed. If I press them again it goes away. Do you have a similar experience? The keyboard seems quite wobbly to me. How long will it last? All the best.
@@billyruss Hello, I got a new suggestion from technical support for Osmose. Here it is: " Bank import function indeed only works with the new *.eepst preset format and a specific logic applied. Unfortunately, you would either need to import the old *.mid presets one by one in the Haken Editor, and renam+save one by one in the Osmose interface, or you make a downgrade to version 1.4.4. of the firmware and use the regular version of the Haken Editor that is still available here to import the presets as a batch to the Haken DSP card (user preset slots) and then migrate to 2.0 once again, which will bring the presets with you to the new version. " I'm new to Osmos, and somehow I don't like the fact that some unwanted things happen during the downgrade, so I'll leave it for a new version. I would hate to lose my entire OS. Hoping mid format will be supported again. Maybe you have a better idea? I hope that you will reply to me something. I wish you all best.
@@predragkalajdzijevic7146 Well, that's a bummer. I had hoped that there was a way to get them across somehow. Crazy that there's no backward compatibility, bit disappointing that. I would have to upgrade and see how the *.eepst backup works but, as I said, that's not going to be just yet. As it seems to be possible to import them one at a time, you could maybe select a few favourites and try the process they suggested. A bit slow, yes, but if you're not doing all 128 but just a handful then it might be worth the effort? Let me know if you try it.
The Osmose...
Firstly, let me say that I love this beast - I have played it every day since it arrived six months ago, and still haven't tired of it. I also think the programming is excellent, and I wouldn't want to detract from that. A lot of the sounds remind me of the Continuumini (which I also own and love), which makes sense given the shared DNA.
For me, though, its uniqueness is also in some ways its weakness - how usable are some of these signature sounds for making actual pieces of music? I've seen a lot of instances online where some users are a little critical, deeming the sounds "harsh" or "metallic", with some players preferring to use the Osmose as a controller for a third-party outboard synth (MPE or otherwise) that offers more traditional synth sounds. What I've tried to do here (without taking a dive into the Haken Eagenmatrix - something I'd rather not do now or anytime soon) is to "tame" some of these patches by messing about with the macros until I had achieved what I felt was a more "rounded" sound. Whilst this might seem at first to be counter to what the beast is supposed to be about, it was never intended to be that way; whilst the resulting patches are a lot more "playable" (for me, at least), they retain the subtleties and nuances afforded by the MPE keyboard and controllers so that, whilst they are (IMHO) more usable, they still present sonic textures not available using any other combination of synth keybed and MPE instrument. As a keyboard player, I simply wanted a set of sounds that I could just use, without having to dive into the complexities of the Eagan Matrix or mess about with macros live, on the fly.
One of the other criticisms I see levelled against the various Osmose videos online is that there is too much wiggling and bending of notes. It can be really easy to get carried away with the vibrato - because of the kinda haptic/tactile feedback loop going on when you wiggle your finger on a key. It's satisfying and great fun. However, by applying a little judicious self-control, it is possible to rein in some of these excesses using the various parameters on the synth in order to tame the level of "wiggle"; the application of a little restraint can result in a sound that is a LOT more convincing. Just because the board is capable of all these expressive gestures doesn't mean that they have to be present in every patch - it's just nice to have that capability when you need it. So, many of these patches are leaning toward the more conventional, with just a hint of added expression from time to time as required.
During the recording of this demo, Expressive E released an updated manual which made me realize that I could save each patch with its preferred expression control settings (really useful in patches like the organs, which really need to have the key pitch bend turned off). However, the more presets I saved with this information, the slower the Osmose became to change patches until eventually it crashed altogether. Luckily the same manual had a link to a troubleshooting page where I found the instructions to perform a reset. Luckily, too, all my sounds survived intact, but without the expression settings, so the patches in the zip file linked below don't have this information saved to them.
So... to the sounds in this demo. As I was working through the various patches on the Osmose, I would tweak them to a state that I liked. If this required more than a couple of quick changes, I then saved the patch to one of the free user locations as a "favourite". It's that collection of favourites that are presented here - partly because yes, they are my favourites, and partly because they differ from the standard onboard settings the board is shipped with, so may prove interesting to existing users. A lot of my preferred sounds are of the more ambient/atmospheric variety (although there's also a good representation of the trademark bells, percussion and fx patches) and yes, I know there's a lot of reverb on some of them - I also own a Hydrasynth, and a lot of patches on there are awash with vast amounts of reverb so I think I may have been influenced by those.
Having put together an initial collection of my favourite patches, I went back and listened to a load more Osmose demos online, picking up on some of the patches that sounded good in the hands of other users - and then went back and worked my way through some of these other presets. One of the things that struck me most was just how different the Osmose can sound in different users' hands. It's so expressive that each individual player makes it sound like a different keyboard, just down to their style of playing. I have to mention in particular the TH-cam user Cuckoo, whose video demo (th-cam.com/video/uXb4jeBpqyc/w-d-xo.html) made me go back and work through a number of patches again, with the discipline of using the lightest of touches that he advocates - it's amazing how expressive this thing is.
There are just so many great sounds onboard; I wish there were more user slots to allow you to store them all. My original collection has been modified a few times to include new patches. What all the sounds presented here have in common, however, is that they have all been tweaked in some way and therefore stored as a different base preset to the original. Sometimes the changes are minor, sometimes more drastic.
So, for those thinking of buying an Osmose, this demo presents a different set of sounds to those you're likely to hear elsewhere; for existing users, there may be a few sounds here that take your fancy; a link to a zip file containing all of the presets showcased here is given below.
For the demo, I'm using an expression pedal (to allow me to move the slider and effect changes on the fly, "hands-free") and a sustain pedal (which is usually routed to something other than sustain). At the time of recording, the expression pedal doubles as a controller for the onboard slider; I've seen requests for a firmware update to uncouple the two, giving a second layer of expression, but for now it is as it is. The sustain pedal I'm using is a non-continuous one, so it's either on or off. This doesn't mean, however, that the value it's controlling has to be 0 or 127 - the Osmose allows you to set the upper and lower values to be anything you want, so I have. This means that I'm often using the sustain pedal to switch between two different variations of the same sound.
I made this demo over a period of about a week; this is whittled down from about eight hours' worth of audio. Even in its edited form, it's still a big listen - nearly two hours of noodling (a double album of Osmose sounds)! Probably the best way to tackle it is in the same way that I often listen to longer demos online - I just let it run in the background as I'm doing other stuff, swapping back to the demo to have a look at what sound is playing if there's something that particularly grabs my interest. I played through the sounds alphabetically, which is a shame in some ways as a lot of the best patches are towards the end of the demo (for example, the patch "tender stuck" at 01:41:21 really shows off a few of the board's unique features: polyphonic aftertouch, different sounds depending on initial touch, individual pitch bend and depth of expression). As mentioned above, I've marked particular favourites with an asterisk.
All the sounds you hear were played live, direct to a digital recorder, with no overdubs or additional effects, and using only the keyboard and two attached pedals. At no time did I modify any of the macros using the control panel as I was playing; everything has been set up to play live.
Link to .zip file containing all these presets (though not in the same order):
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/a2f9qk894dfa4hluzdeg1/Osmose-Custom-Presets.zip?rlkey=zx0xvb50mm939vgz46k7ql3ms&dl=0
You don't need to have dropbox installed in order to download it - just go to the link, and wait for the Download button to appear at the top right of the screen (be patient - this can take a few seconds). Once it has appeared, click the button (you may have to press Enter), and select Direct Download to save it to the location of your choice. The .zip file contains a backup made using the "Advanced" option in the Osmose updater; the order is different to the playing order here because I've modified it over time; my guess is that you could go back and edit the eight text files in the backup to change the order if you wanted to do a full restore, but I was advised by a senior member of the Osmose Facebook group against such wilful foolhardiness! Otherwise, I guess you could load patches individually using the Haken editor, though I have not tried this. I have to stress that I can take no responsibility if anything goes wrong with these; the Osmose can, in my experience be temperamental at times, so follow all the usual advice and DO A BACKUP FIRST!!!
Update: Alphabetically-ordered list for use with EE backup here:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/atb7sqfu3rq6kz95bd307/Osmose-Custom-Patches.zip?rlkey=nb2rddtvibpdkaaye1wksclju&dl=0
This contains all the sounds in the order in which they are played here.
Videos such as this take a number of hours to plan, play, edit and prepare.
I never ask for any payment for any of the soundbanks I link to on my TH-cam videos but, if you download these sounds, please consider liking and subscribing.
I don't post often, so you're not going to be bugged by lots of notifications, and the chances are that, if you liked this one, you're going to find the next one interesting too. And, if you don't, you can always cancel, it costs nothing :-)
Enjoy :-)
wonderful playing.
@@AngryPhotoGuy Thank you!
excellent demo and commentary!!
I bought the Osmose recently and I can say with certitude that it's going to be a gold mine of creativity for more than a decade for so many people
Wow, this is the best demo I've seen for the sounds of the Osmose. Your playing is also wonderful, it amazes me even more when I think that it's all coming from a "keyboard".
Thank you very much!
Great playing and demonstration of each sound’s capabilities!
Thanks!
A thousand of thanks for the custom patches ! And congratulations for your keyboard playing which makes us forget all the penguins amateurs who demonstrate to us on TH-cam their musical emptiness !
Thank you so much!
grandios !!!! gypsy kinetar !!! and all other presets perfect demo ! its nearly a shame to say demo :)
Thank you for your kind words!
Thanks for posting - probably the most comprehensive of the patch demos.
Thank you!
At the very least, I would like to say a big thank you, Mr Bill, for your invaluable contribution in creating inspiring sound samples and providing the community with carefully configured sound presets.
Thanks!
Beautiful sounds and thanks for the patches - I will try some of these on my Osmose. Particularly love Beny's Territory (and your playing) - definite echoes of Jean Michel Jarre there :). Thanks
Thanks for your comments! Let me know how you get on with the patches are there were, initially, some problems with a few blank patches - but these should now all have been ironed out.
Thank you so much! My Osmose will be arriving in a few days...!
Thank for this breathtaking demo, Bill! ❤
Thx so much, perfection work.
Thanks! 🙂
Thank you for sharing your amazing work 🙏
Thank you, great pre-sets and a great demo.
Thanks!
Brill as always Bill!! Not really dug in to mine yet tbh (time really ...) but it is fab. Link pinned would be very welcomed 🙏 (P.s still got your old GEM S2Turbo 😂😂.......)
Thanks! I've been trying to get the automatic chapters to work. Link in pinned comment coming in about five mins 🙂
Link et al should be up now. Yes, it takes a LOT of time to get used to, and I haven't even started with the Eagan Matrix! Glas to hear you've still got the S2; I may be getting rid of the Equinox soon - but I'll bung a demo up on here before I do 🙂
@billyruss 😁🙏 Dropbox link DL'd with much thanks Bill!!! ✨️🙌
@@theaudioeng Let me know if you manage to get any of them working!
@billyruss maybe one for tomorrow Bill 🤔
Fantastic sounds is a little to describe your sounds, I have to use the same term for your playing, which is impressive and suitable for every sound you have made. I sincerely hope that I will become the owner of Osmose one of these days.
I'm only worried about how I'll handle loading your sounds. I don't know if your libraries are uploaded automatically (by reading the txt files attached in the folder), or if something else has to be done?
I don't know how to start the upload?
Thank you so much for sharding your library, and for making such an impressive presentation. I wish you all the best in life and music, you are really wonderful!
Thank you for your kind remarks. How you load the sounds depends on which method you use but either one is fairly intuitive to use once you have the interface open.
Best of luck with getting the Osmose! 🙂
Thank you for your wish. Do you mean the interface of the instrument itself or the EganMatrix editor?
Thanks in advance and all the best.
@@predragkalajdzijevic7146 You can use the Haken Editor to load individual sounds, or the Osmose Updater software to load in the whole lot in one go (this would overwrite any saved user presets you have, so you would probably want to take a backup of those first).
@@billyruss Thank you very much for reply. I hope that I can be soon in position to try it.
I wish you all best.
Asante sana ! S he she ni! Danke ! Dankuwel! Merci! Mgoi ! Salamat Po
Sorry, but I cannot find the download-link for these wonderful patches?
Hi Michael. The links are in my pinned comment at the top of the comments section. I understand from another commenter that these don't seem to be compatible with the latest firmware upgrade. I need to use these for an upcoming project but, once that's done, I will upload a new version for that firmware version - it seems that the upgrade keeps your custom pathces and reorganises them into a new list but I don't want to risk that until I've finished what I need to do with them!
Sorry to bother you, but I have no idea what it could be. Tonight I updated the firmware from v.1.1.3 rev.2 to v.2.0.15. I tried to load your sounds (with new firmware) using update user sounds. However, the new firmware didn't recognize your sounds (they were all in the folder I pointed to). I got an error with the message that there are no presets in the folder.
Do you have any idea what the problem is?
Thanks in advance, and all the best.
I haven't upgraded the firmware yet, mainly because I'm concerned about losing all my patches! I don't know if you're a part of the Facebook Osmose Users group, but I've been asking some questions there. There don't seem to be any definitive answers, though a couple of users have said that they have upgraded and their own custom patches seem to have remained intact (albeit in a different order). I don't know, though, if the patches here can be uploaded directly using the new firmware - it may be that they have to be in place before the upgrade (which isn't a lot of use to you right now, I know). Did you have the patches uploaded before upgrading the firmware, or are you trying to load them into an Osmose that has already been upgraded?
My best guess right now is that I will probably need to upgrade myself and then save a new backup of these patches using the new firmware, but I'm loathe to do that right now because I have a project coming up over the next few weeks where I will need these patches to be there. There are two sets of the patches here, one made using the Osmose Update utility and the other using the Haken Editor software. I'm not at all familiar with the latter, but I have it on the laptop and used it to create that second upload - and you can, apparently, load individual or groups of patches using the Editor. Not sure if you've tried both methods, but the Haken Editor might succeed where the other fails.
I will need to upgrade at some time because I understand that some new patches are due to be released in the not-too-distant future that will require the new firmware in place.
Sorry I can't be of more help here - it's always tricky when new firmware comes out, and I'm waiting just now until I can get a bit more feedback on the best way forward. Best of luck, and let me know how you get on.
@@billyruss First, thank you very much for your quick and very comprehensive reply.
You are really wonderful.
I haven't tried individual loading via Hacken Editor. I haven't installed it yet. I've only owned an Osmos for a few days, and so far have had no experience with mpe instruments. I did not expect problems with user presets. I thought it would be easy.
I make a small digression, since I own a Hidrasinth (like you), I hope that the midi connection of these two instruments will bring interesting experiences. Since Hidrasynth can receive information from the mpe controller.
All the best.
@@billyruss I contacted technical support for Osmose. Here is part of their answer: "With the new preset format we use, the new Haken Editor delivered with firmware 2.0 was stripped of most of the preset management/browsing functionality. Only importing single presets in the current Editor and then saving them via the Osmose GUI is currently possible." It made me very sad, but what can be done.
A little digression.
Sometimes some keys have a clicking sound (perhaps it's better to say a little screeching). It depends on where they are pressed. If I press them again it goes away. Do you have a similar experience? The keyboard seems quite wobbly to me.
How long will it last?
All the best.
@@billyruss Hello,
I got a new suggestion from technical support for Osmose.
Here it is:
" Bank import function indeed only works with the new *.eepst preset format and a specific logic applied.
Unfortunately, you would either need to import the old *.mid presets one by one in the Haken Editor, and renam+save one by one in the Osmose interface, or you make a downgrade to version 1.4.4. of the firmware and use the regular version of the Haken Editor that is still available here to import the presets as a batch to the Haken DSP card (user preset slots) and then migrate to 2.0 once again, which will bring the presets with you to the new version. "
I'm new to Osmos, and somehow I don't like the fact that some unwanted things happen during the downgrade, so I'll leave it for a new version. I would hate to lose my entire OS.
Hoping mid format will be supported again.
Maybe you have a better idea?
I hope that you will reply to me something.
I wish you all best.
@@predragkalajdzijevic7146 Well, that's a bummer. I had hoped that there was a way to get them across somehow. Crazy that there's no backward compatibility, bit disappointing that. I would have to upgrade and see how the *.eepst backup works but, as I said, that's not going to be just yet. As it seems to be possible to import them one at a time, you could maybe select a few favourites and try the process they suggested. A bit slow, yes, but if you're not doing all 128 but just a handful then it might be worth the effort? Let me know if you try it.
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