Time codes: 00:00 Why Handing Your Cell Number Out Is Dangerous 02:36 VoIP vs Cell Number 05:16 New Phone Strategy Overview 05:47 Porting Existing Number to VoIP 06:17 Number Porting/SIM Swap Attacks 07:23 Google Voice Porting 08:24 VoIP Communications are NOT PRIVATE 10:10 New SIM 10:26 Creating Multiple VoIP Numbers 12:02 MySudo Note: The specific products mentioned are available in a few countries including America, but the overall ideas that you should never hand out your cell number, should lock down existing cell numbers by porting to voip, should get a new sim phone number you don't share with anyone, and should only use voip numbers going forward, are universal concepts. Hopefully this video will help you choose the right strategy for wherever you are based!
“So what’s the moral of the story” *Vice is a subsidiary of the NWO MSM PedoMEDIA EMPIRE* They did the same exact thing with Sean Penn and the “el guapo”.
great content Naomi, i have been saving important content like this for future reference. In all instances, i keep running into the same problem; "the chicken or the egg". Say someone wants/needs a fresh start with ZERO exhaust/footprints.. to get a New Email and New Phone number without any history of either or. Its a serious problem... Now since i worked in I.T. and just want these MegaCorp Aholes to leave me alone and not continue trying to exploit me.. we have to ensure that there is no crosstalk between Corp and Gov. At least some are wise enough to leverage GDPR and make Apple&MS&Google pay for crossing that line. But I will say this. If the WEF and WHO mess around with the Digital Passport, we have to revolt as no one will be safe. Now, just presume.. i want a new number.. just so I can be on twitter or IG with a clean account and no "identification" needed. VoiP services do NOT work. And if your number is banned there is no appeal process. Previously there were companies and sites that had FREE TEMP LIVE NUMBERS and one could easily use it to create a new account. That said 4:11 "but that's outside the scope of this video." And 16:05 "we'll go over that.. in another video.." I'm getting the vibe that we have too much polish and not enough shine. That said are (complexity aside) are Twilio and Telnyx End User friendly or are they business oriented only. As their service pipeline does that damned thing where "here is a API stub and call our sales dept today." Meaning an actual botter could use there service no issue but mere mortals are stuck. Hopeful mySudo will stick to being good, i'll have to review the EULA. In summary the stuff you didn't cover.. as in VoiP to Real Cell number. Is what matters. Ive tried several of these apps for VoiP such as Sideline and Burner. However, none of them worked and WORSE? actually tripled the amount of Spam calls I recieved.
So long story short.. Someone stole my shoes 508 A knife went missing 301 and took out a phone in my name 5330 without my knowledge or consent. This number might be theirs too ok? Compliments of beau of the fifth on TH-cam. Peace
I only give out my phone number when it's necessary (work, health provider, etc.). For social media accounts, I lie about it. I love seeing the expressions on cashier's faces when they ask "Can I have your phone number?" and I say "No, you cannot.". It never gets old.
Many years ago I got into an argument with a young cashier- the only time in my life- when she demanded my postal code. She would not process the sale and there were a few people in line behind me. Eventually she gave in. This was pre cell phone days. Now, I give my home/voip number with built in caller ID and voice mail.
It's more polite to simply say "I'm sorry, I don't give that out." One must remember, they are told to ask in their employment. We don't need be rude to them.
I've been using a Google voice voip number for 10 years now and it's the best in its class. The big problem with this is that more and more companies are starting to refuse VOIP numbers. And that's when I'm left with only one option, to use my real number.
I've been using a different option. If a company says something silly like "you can't use this number," I send the company a bill for the cost of a number that they like. If they're not paying me enough to support a cellular number that they approve of, they are cut off until they pay up or change their stupid policy. I just had a company that I stupidly gave my number to many years ago, and they just started Texting me again after I told them not to use that number. Don't give these companies your number unless they are paying you.
@@alexanderrogge yeah,please elaborate on if you've actually had any company pay and how you would even send the bill to them in the first place w/o getting stuck with the bill yourself.
I been in google voice too since GrandCentral days and I’m glad I have. I don’t get those calls or texts on a regular. To overcome the VOIP issue, I been using Office At Hand. Plus it lets me spin up a new number I want at anytime and then close it when I’m done.
@@mildsoup8978 You can start with the cost of buying an additional cell phone number and whatever phone that the company demanding 2FA is requiring. If they don't want to pay, say no. If they insist that 2FA must be used and must use your cell phone, tell them that they may not use your cell phone and walk away. If they demand a USB stick, tell them to pay for it. It is the responsibility of the companies demanding security schemes to pay for and provide the items required. They assume that everyone owns a smartphone that is never used by anyone else, always has the same phone number, and is always attached to the owner, and so they believe that they can use the phones for their own purposes. I recently turned away a retailer that insisted that I must "get the app" to claim rewards points. No! They want your phone number and they want your identity associated with that number. Stop using your cell phone number as a form of identification!
Any number other then a regular cellphone number issued by a carrier isn't accepted by many companies including banks. They have systems in place that instantly tell them when a virtual number is being used. Google voice used to be the defacto number but even that isn't being accepted in many places.
I had to prove myself to the US government and they refused to accept any VoIP, just a cell number. One bank I told them I only had land line and that worked.
There's a guy in the UK that leveraged this with his electric company whom was known to sell personal phone numbers. He purchased a brand new phone with a new phone number and used it only for his electric company. He then took the electric company to court. Whenever he has a telemarketer it pays big bucks to keep them on the line. XD
@@grandetaco4416 Looks like I posted in error. He's using a premium rate phone number for when he calls the utility companies. Look up Lee Beaumont. When the spammers companies call in he makes about 10 pence per call. Apparently in 2015 he had made about £2000.
It’s a shame Google Voice only works in the US (for this purpose). They’re the cheapest because there is no ongoing monthly cost to keep the number active, and they have excellent security options unlike the smaller VoIP providers (who all seem oriented towards offering commercial solutions to businesses, not privacy-conscious individuals looking to hide their location from cell towers).
Still keep an unopened burner phone in the glove box, just in case. 😉 Maybe 20 people have my real number and the rest get the VOIP. 🤜🤛 Thanks for the tips as always Naomi.
I’m in Australia and have multiple SIMs with different providers that are not necessarily in my own name. Some providers don’t require you to provide identity at sign up too. I use one number for banking, another one for shipping, personal, have several data SIMs sharing from one account. I only make/receive FaceTime Audio Calls and am generally on WiFi Calling, rarely rely on Cell Tower
But isn't it really sad that we the consumers have to tip toe around scammers and marketing to gain privacy? This is the real issue. Alias emails, alias phone numbers etc is getting really complicated just for sidetracking others that invade our privacy and interfere with their constant marketing. Just leave me alone!
I hope kids learn this stuff! Realistically though, many public schools don't even have private server/school ran email accounts for their students, and kids as young as 6 already have gmail accounts collecting data on them... I highly appreciate your videos, they are extremely relevant to modern times and even the future! (side note, Amish life is looking better every day...)
In the UK email clients for schools are managed by the district council, all schools in a district share the same domain. Which I'm guessing is managed regional government. So this isn't a problem I guess.
I agree. Be careful who you give your info to. I was cyberstalked for months on end with spoofed texts and calls raining down on me. I filed a restraining order and that didn't stop them and they never showed up to court. I filed a violation of the injunction so I hope that does the trick.
Did you know who was cyberstalking you? Couldn’t you you just blocked the number or numbers, I block like 20 number everyday day , and when I looked out them most of them are voip numbers, so criminals can use that tool too , to be untraceable
@Mecambrea77 Yes, I knew the stalker and once confronted, they ran away like a coward. They suffer from drug addiction, and so I believe they were getting high and sending spoofed messages to me, not really knowing what they were doing. I reached his parents and let them know their son needed help. I also reached his job and he quit the job and disappeared. The stalking and harassment stopped. Most stalkers are cowards, and once they are confronted, they usually stop. Blocking doesn't work when they use random spoofed numbers which sucks. That is why I say to never give your real number to anyone unless you know them well.
I am going through the same thing. Someone knew my wife's upcoming flight time and filed a false police report on us using it to gain credibility. Gone are the days of trusting others.
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Great video. Looking forward to how to make a VoIP number work with apps/businesses who insist on a cell number and won't allow VoIP numbers.
I'm honestly waiting to go the VOIP route until I find the most viable solution to companies not accepting VOIP numbers. Paying for multiple phone lines is way to expensive of an option.
Really appreciate the effort that goes into these videos. Even as a cyber security pro, I learn something new with every episode. Thanks Naomi from a happy subscriber.
@@NaomiBrockwellTV I'm sorry to bother you but im hoping ok to ask a few Q's? I have been watching your videos as a recent new sub and they are excellent. Admittedly a lot is going over my head. I'm possibly getting a new cell. Don't want to say much here. Is there a possibility to email you, please ? Again sorry I'm very leary of the constantly evolving scams. I'm taking your advice and not saying too much in comments now. Thx if your respond 🙏
I appreciate the effort in making this video. Your recommendations make sense. But...OMG, procuring multiple VOIP Numbers and sandboxing is quite a heavy lift for most of us Normies.
Thanks Naomi! Another awesome video! Does this privacy rabbit hole even have a bottom!? It impossible to "unsee" all of this. Maybe it's time to be Amish?
Funny. An Amish guy did some work at my house and he had a cell phone in his truck. He said that his order can use them for business but they must not be in the house and black was preferred color.
Problem is Google as a VoIP provider has been mostly discontinued (Certainly the Google Hangouts Dialer and indeed Google Hangouts has been discontinued in favour of video connections) which brings the question of which VoIP service will continue to be provided over the long term. Yes, we need to separate out our security identification use from normal casual use and this is true for voice phone lines, SMS text messages and for email. I don't think we'll ever completely untangle ourself unless we start really early in life, but we do need to start rolling everything over. Now you usually only get one free phone number per VoIP company and you loose it if you don't use it regularly, sometimes you can subscribe to some service which will keep it live at a cost, additional numbers will of course require subscriptions, you can easily loose track of the phone numbers and wind up with quite a subscription list. I still remember when businesses would only deal with land line numbers and refuse cell numbers, now it's cell numbers that they want...
They were trying to switch from Google Voice to Hangouts, but I think no one liked it and it was confusing. Now they're discontinuing Hangouts & supporting Voice again. So they're back to were they started which is Google Voice which always worked well and so far is getting better.
@@yourfriendcaspian Seems that Google Voice just says not supported in your country. It did turned out to be installed on all my devices though for some reason, probably because I used to use it, then the hangouts dialer. However, it appears Google Voice just doesn't have the support it once did. Real shame too, there were times when I didn't have my smart phone with a Sim with me, but did have one of my older phones and hence could still dial out through Google Voice and later Hangouts dialer.
what?? I'm old enough to remember before cell phones (54yr) and I don't recall anyone changing their phone #. I still know my dad's home phone from the 80's till this day!! Now I did have an uncle who's # change a lot... but he had a "job" that paid no taxes
@@kevcoder You would call your phone company and tell them you need/want to change your number. They would charge a fee. They would ask if you want it listed or unlisted. Unlisted would be an extra fee. Yes you could change your number
Your number would change if you moved to a new area code, etc. Landline numbers With so many more numbers now out there, you can't even keep the same number moving within the same city. So irritating if you wanted to keep the same number
The essential followup video is advising how to spoof companies that a VOIP is CELL- this is critical info- Banks are very sophisticated and can scour Cell databases at thier disposal. which are updated daily.
Your content is awesome, would be even more awesome if you made a playlist for seniors, as I can get my parents to watch these videos :) tech them up and keep their neurons firing at the same time as they working something new.
I am overwhelmed as someone started stalking my wife and I and put in false police reports somehow knowing info about her upcoming flight, so now begins the process of having to change everything in our lives to not let this happen again. This is one of the steps involved, and it's exhausting.
Some places require non-VOIP numbers. Like Google voice, they check if the number is tied to a SIM and US carrier or not. Would be nice to get a workaround for these sort of checks. Looking forward to your follow up vid on this!
This is the blocker. I DID port my cell to Twilio years ago, then found out pretty quickly all the services that didn't support a "non-approved carrier" number. Ended up porting my number back to my MAGA supporting carrier :p
Cheapest number I've found in US is $5/month with $3 for getting the sim. Only 500 mins/500 texts, but that's more than enough if you're just using it for signing up to websites.
That's an overwhelming wealth of info. So much so that it freezed into doing nothing at all. Is there a simpler, get-started version for dummies? We are also aware that in this digital age, our personal info is open to the malicious whims of opportunistic deviants. That said, it feels we require an engineering degree to traverse this tech-savvy terrain.
This is a really good process, and I have been using a similar method for several years. BUT, some of these companies are getting wise to this and do allow the use of a VOIP number in their registration process. In which case, you're back to square one. OpenAI is one of those services. It will not accept my VOIP number so....there ya go. One one thing I DON'T want is to give an AI any more of my information than absolutely necessary.
Imagine my shock when the order I placed on Amazon turned out to be from a dropshipper - the parcel arrived directly from China, with my cell number printed right there on the label, for anyone to see. Good times.
@@t83ndnsk3k You may be right. We are still on a landline here with only 5 Mb/s ADSL internet. The latest application to install a mast was refused again, owing to it being a protected conservation area. There is also no terrestrial TV or VHF radio (hills block the signals) and satellite dishes are forbidden.
As much as I'm glad to see the attention to this issue, its out of date by like 3/years. Primary companies already wised up and no longer accept VoIP numbers for verification. This video is vastly out of date. Try to update it and tell is ways to you VoIP that looks and acts like a sim card. 😊
@@recoveringsoul755 dont think there is. just keep your accounts secure and know you did all you could in the way of privacy. there is only so much you can do before you are straight up giving fully fake informaiton
Really appreciate this information! Also EXTREMELY appreciate the video was produced without any annoying background "musical" track which can interfere with vocals and make understanding more difficult.
Great to hear this is an option. I've been doing this for a while with virtual cards and encrypted email (where I only use the aliases). But I didn't know it could be done with phone numbers.
Very cool topic. I've long wanted a phone number solution like what I have implemented for email addresses, but it's a much tougher problem. Your video goes some way toward addressing my concerns. Still seems cumbersome, but it's good to know this is available.
I think I'm doing most of this already, but thanks for confirming. I was unsure about airplane mode. Virtual credit car is awesome, since every site traps them...then they get hacked, with simple 'sorry' email. I use my physical card less and less since they track also. Finally, what about burner phones?
best thing that could happen is someone literally destroys the internet. if the interenet does not exist, criminals must go back to older methods to get information, making it easier for us to control that information
Gracias Naomi! Really appreciate the time and effort on the videos, truly help me to understand and take different approach in many aspects! Keep it up!
MySudo requires using their smartphone app. A computer & browser can't be used, not even to signup (or generate keys in this case). The only recovery option after a dead/lost phone is purchasing a similar device from the same vendor. You have the same responsibility to manage keys like cryptocurrency but few options. It's just not ready yet.
Love that you are explaining, with knowledge, solutions I awkwardly & ineptly stumble towards as I attempt to put out spitfires. And thank God that scarily naive " if you haven't done anything wrong .." chant is being seen for the crim friendly idiocy it always was.
Nice. The more important the privacy the more solutions are possible. Can I buy an entirely new phone that would allow me to have a switch on it that would disconnect the antenna(s) on the phone? Can you do a show showcasing phones that could be directly set to privacy, at times called the dumbed down or weekend phones?
Someone stole my cell number last year. One day my phone just stopped working. I used a coworkers phone and called my provider. They told me I called and switch my number to an iPhone in Florida. Within an hour they tried to access my bank accounts, AMAZON accounts...basically anything tied to my number. I had to close the account and get a new number. Anything that used a 2 step authentication with my phone they tried to get into. It was a nightmare.
Best buy does not allow buying a sim without using some form of officially connected ID. You could use your best buy card, which is connected to your real name and official IDs. Great video!
Great video. I've been using Google Voice for years now and works great. As you mentioned some companies like PayPal for example will NOT take VIOP numbers. And would really like to know how to get around this.
Unfortunately several sites are blocking the use of VOIP numbers. I would venture a guess that it is because they can't track me, and build a profile on me.
At 17:00 you mention "all my devices" (implying at least three) doesn't that mean you are also already using multiple SIM cell numbers which (especially if serviced by different providers) should get you some way along to relief of this stated problem.
So glad you did this video because Discord require you to store a mobile number if they detect you are using a VPN. They also detect VOIP numbers. So looking forward to your next video on that one.
@@frostyfrances4700 It is app on your cellphone, an app or website on your computer. It also has 100's or more different chatrooms & topics. For ecample there is a section where there are stock market, cooking,.... chatrooms,... If you sign up to Discord for free you can start a chatroom (I forget the name so I call it a chatroom). You can read & make comnents, like on Twitter, Instagram, here on TH-cam kind of.
I've been using a magic jack for about 16 years. The magic jack number is the only number I give out, when necessary, there are a few exceptions such as family, friends, doctors, etc. Originally the cost was $19.00 per year but now it's gone up to $39.00 per year and well worth it.
i use it as well. IT is VOIP however. You get one phone number and then they charge you $10. to change it if you want to. I will look into the other VOIP options described in this video; I like the quantity of numbers available. Not keen on porting my cell number though.
I have been using a Magic Jsck VoIP phone for well over a decade. Cheap and works well. Recently I was forced to get a Smart phone. A week later, I was hacked and had my IDENTITY STOLEN, which led to my bank accounts robbed through E-Transfer Request Money, which I had never used. Absolute horror. More than $12,000 stolen. It would never have happened if I had not got the darn Smart phone.
How do we do this in Australia and other countries, where getting VOIP numbers onto our phones is not particularly easy or cheap. Google Voice, useful though it is, is only functionally available in the USA. We need alternatives and choices to be able to enact this - a guide would be fab.
Absolutely, either a great idea for a business opportunity in Australia if that market has not yet been served, or a good opportunity for regulatory reform if these businesses are not allowed!
I simply refuse to give most of them a real number, email, or address if I give them anything at all. I also use multiple web browsers on my phone and home computer so that it's harder for them to cross reference. Also I refuse most apps for a banks, stores etc. Lastly, I restrict access for app permissions on my phone. I simply make it much harder for them to gather information.
Hi Naomi, this is great content for someone like me, starting to take some control over the digital profiling of my private life. I'm not sure whether you were planning to make a sequel to this explaining further. But, if you are, please consider the following questions that I would like answers for: a. Once multiple digital identities are created to various aspects, how am I going to call those various service providers? Am I going to use the new VoIP numbers via app(s) on the phone? or use one VOIP to call all various parties? b. When we have multiple VoIP recording messages, directing the transcripts to assigned email addresses and forwarding all those emails funnelling to my one private email address, would those service provide link everything to one profile? c. are there any other services similar to SUDO around the world, as I can not use SUDO in Europe, Asia, Australia and New Zealand...? Thank you...
@@NaomiBrockwellTV Yo! Thanks for your massive research and hardwork! Definitely eagerly awaiting a follow up for Twilo / Telnyx and other concepts you've hinted at but this was a great start!.
I have just binge-watched three excellent videos, about How Your WiFi Is Betraying You, How Security Keys work (2FA explained) and this one, Getting MULTIPLE PRIVATE Phone Numbers . Great stuff, Well done! thank you for these excallent videos and fot the other ones I am going to watch. With regartds to this video, I would have loved so see an idea of costs for receiving calls and making outbound calls via VOIP, as I guess unlimited VOIP calls are not included . Perhaps it is something I can ask the VOIP company about .
I helped an elderly man create an email for a discount he requested. He never used it and I only signed one company to the phone. When he came to the office there were hundreds of emails. The company was car insurance and the email was outlook.
Just looked into it, and Google Voice is not available in Canada yet. Regarding Canadian alternatives, as of October 2024, most VOIP services (1) assumed I was looking for VOIP for my 'business', not personal use, and (2) their fees were listed as $5.99 per month and per number, to $9.95/mo per number. Still works out better, maybe, but a bit of a piss off after being told it would likely be free or a dollar a month.
Thanks for the info! It's certainly something to think about. My current solution is somewhere in between. When asked for a phone number, I'll usually give my home number, which is VoIP-based through a custom Asterisk instance, where I can put all kinds of filtering to fight spam calls. When the time comes that I no longer have a real home phone, I can keep doing that, but the Asterisk instance will be a voicemail server that can provide a fake ringtone if desired. That server is actually already set up... I use it as a backup for my home system, in case my home internet is down. The result is that I get a ton of spam calls to my home number, most of which can be filtered so the phone never rings, and the cell phone is quiet.
16:03 you said we would go over that in another video how to trick companies that refuse to allow voip to use it. have you released that video yet and which one?
If you just ditch your old number and get a mint prepaid card instead just for use with dats, youre still going to be tracked, because the imsi is already associated with you and the gps patterns from the profile thats already been built. Itll be a different number, but youre still already associated with the phone, and google easily puts the profile together...
Naimi, I found you through David Bombal and thank god you came for that podcast. We know how much time and effort is required to make QUALITY videos like this. Thank you so much Naomi. We all love you ❤
MySudo in the UK is £30 per month for nine numbers. Considerably more than claimed in this video (this vid is 2 years old but still). And if you sign up and try to get phone numbers, it asks you for your full name and address, which I think is a UK law thing, but kind of defeats the purpose.
At the bank your cell phone has become your identity card once a bank officer visually sees you answer you answer your cell phone when he/she calls your phone number and has verified in person that you answered that cell phone number. Same with the electronic boarding pass you downloaded and stored in your phone. No more paper as your start the boarding process.The gate agent watches you wave your phone over the scanner at the gate and your logged in to the system and clear to board. .
I try not to give my cell number out to many many venues, but some force you into having to give a number in order to use the service or you cant use it. And they are getting worse as time goes on. We are at the mercy of technology.
All the basic concepts of using VoIP vs cell phones apply regardless of where you are, but you'll have to see which services are available in your specific country
Ladies only! Do not give your base cell number to new guys you are dating get a burner or Google voice you will not regret it. They should never have direct access to you anyway.
The constant want of your number has made EVERYWHERE not accessible to deaf or mute people. I have to pay for a number that I only use to write down. Though google voice allows me to just change phone numbers on phone any time I have to use phone once. Change phone then update in google. Though for me, it was a pain getting google numbers. Google just shuts them down over time if you don't have a phone number associated with the account. So I been using a 3CX PBX.
Thank you Naomi I love your content and I have a clarification question(s) I'm hoping could be answered: Supposing I'm now armed with a prepaid SIM (private number) and nine available VoIP #'s on my app, how do the voip #'s connect and make calls and send texts on the go? With 5G SIM data right? Are the SIM and VoIPs really not associated even though I'm using SIM data to make VoIP calls and texts? I hope these questions are clear and not confusing
Nope they’re not linked. A cell number is associated directly with your sim. A voip number isnt associated with your Sim. And you can use a vpn to mask your internet usage.
I miss your videos which are also covert. As for surveillance and criminals, it’s getting very difficult to tell the “good guys”, from the “bad guys”, because they both commit criminal acts. Question: do they continue surveillance on you after death? Most likely.
@@NaomiBrockwellTV thanks, I wasn’t referring to citizens privacy which they also abuse with their illegal surveillance practices, but you can add that to their list. For example, phony kidnapping plots, inciting riots, protecting their paid child predators, etc. the list is long, and thought I’m referring to a specific fed agency, more fed and state agencies are involved. Look forward to your next video, and I enjoy your short ones with your twin and possible triplet video in the works?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This had me cracking. However, considering how evil the world is, it's not impossible to think of really. Weird creeps that hope to get info on the after life might actually do that.
One question I'd have is if you can keep a data plan active on a sim without a phone number linked to it. Some companies have privacy respecting service providing (the most recent one I've seen is Purism's AWEsim) with unlimited data, so being able to get a sim without a cell phone number attached, linking the number that would be attached to a VOIP, then using that infinite data sim on your phone would be a pretty killer combination. (especially since it means you could leave your phone's wifi turned off, which is always good since it prevents all the baggage that comes with like wifi probing)
Thank you, Naomi. Great job. I needed this info. My mobile cell phone number was stolen and put on Dark Web, according to McAfee. I have a question. Is there any organization, like Google Voice, who do number porting in Australia?
@@cdm297 Thank you, for your message. I just found out that "mySudo" is available in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, USA, Canada, UK for IOS 14, and IOS 15. I'm going to try it.
I got a private number that I only ever used for my ISP. Immediate got spammed. My number I used for years gets nearly 0 spam other than my cell provider.
It gets worse, Naomi. If I have your private number in my Android Google contact list, any time you install software like a spam blocker, that software collects every number in your contact list. Including the ones that WERE supposed to stay private. And in turn, if my phone is set to DO NOT DISTURB unless the contact is on your list. So you'll miss important calls. No way to win without enforcement.
Time codes:
00:00 Why Handing Your Cell Number Out Is Dangerous
02:36 VoIP vs Cell Number
05:16 New Phone Strategy Overview
05:47 Porting Existing Number to VoIP
06:17 Number Porting/SIM Swap Attacks
07:23 Google Voice Porting
08:24 VoIP Communications are NOT PRIVATE
10:10 New SIM
10:26 Creating Multiple VoIP Numbers
12:02 MySudo
Note: The specific products mentioned are available in a few countries including America, but the overall ideas that you should never hand out your cell number, should lock down existing cell numbers by porting to voip, should get a new sim phone number you don't share with anyone, and should only use voip numbers going forward, are universal concepts. Hopefully this video will help you choose the right strategy for wherever you are based!
“So what’s the moral of the story”
*Vice is a subsidiary of the NWO MSM PedoMEDIA EMPIRE*
They did the same exact thing with Sean Penn and the “el guapo”.
great content Naomi, i have been saving important content like this for future reference.
In all instances, i keep running into the same problem; "the chicken or the egg". Say someone wants/needs a fresh start with ZERO exhaust/footprints.. to get a New Email and New Phone number without any history of either or. Its a serious problem...
Now since i worked in I.T. and just want these MegaCorp Aholes to leave me alone and not continue trying to exploit me.. we have to ensure that there is no crosstalk between Corp and Gov. At least some are wise enough to leverage GDPR and make Apple&MS&Google pay for crossing that line. But I will say this. If the WEF and WHO mess around with the Digital Passport, we have to revolt as no one will be safe.
Now, just presume.. i want a new number.. just so I can be on twitter or IG with a clean account and no "identification" needed. VoiP services do NOT work. And if your number is banned there is no appeal process. Previously there were companies and sites that had FREE TEMP LIVE NUMBERS and one could easily use it to create a new account.
That said
4:11 "but that's outside the scope of this video."
And 16:05 "we'll go over that.. in another video.."
I'm getting the vibe that we have too much polish and not enough shine.
That said are (complexity aside) are Twilio and Telnyx End User friendly or are they business oriented only. As their service pipeline does that damned thing where "here is a API stub and call our sales dept today."
Meaning an actual botter could use there service no issue but mere mortals are stuck.
Hopeful mySudo will stick to being good, i'll have to review the EULA.
In summary the stuff you didn't cover.. as in VoiP to Real Cell number. Is what matters.
Ive tried several of these apps for VoiP such as Sideline and Burner. However, none of them worked and WORSE? actually tripled the amount of Spam calls I recieved.
@@tzuedespeaks9092 going into those details is the difference between a 10 minute video and a 5 hour video.
Hackers 508
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So long story short.. Someone stole my shoes 508 A knife went missing 301 and took out a phone in my name 5330 without my knowledge or consent. This number might be theirs too ok? Compliments of beau of the fifth on TH-cam. Peace
Where has this video been my whole life! Im sick of getting calls from bots and spam.
Have you thought of getting RoboKiller on your phone
I only give out my phone number when it's necessary (work, health provider, etc.). For social media accounts, I lie about it.
I love seeing the expressions on cashier's faces when they ask "Can I have your phone number?" and I say "No, you cannot.". It never gets old.
Many years ago I got into an argument with a young cashier- the only time in my life- when she demanded my postal code. She would not process the sale and there were a few people in line behind me. Eventually she gave in. This was pre cell phone days. Now, I give my home/voip number with built in caller ID and voice mail.
@@derekmadge why didn't you just give a random postal code instead of yours?
Hallmark stores are bad about this.
It's more polite to simply say "I'm sorry, I don't give that out." One must remember, they are told to ask in their employment. We don't need be rude to them.
My zip code? 12345. Have a nice day.
I've been using a Google voice voip number for 10 years now and it's the best in its class. The big problem with this is that more and more companies are starting to refuse VOIP numbers. And that's when I'm left with only one option, to use my real number.
I've been using a different option. If a company says something silly like "you can't use this number," I send the company a bill for the cost of a number that they like. If they're not paying me enough to support a cellular number that they approve of, they are cut off until they pay up or change their stupid policy. I just had a company that I stupidly gave my number to many years ago, and they just started Texting me again after I told them not to use that number. Don't give these companies your number unless they are paying you.
@@alexanderrogge LMAO what? You send the company that you are signing up to a bill for your phone number?!
@@alexanderrogge yeah,please elaborate on if you've actually had any company pay and how you would even send the bill to them in the first place w/o getting stuck with the bill yourself.
I been in google voice too since GrandCentral days and I’m glad I have. I don’t get those calls or texts on a regular. To overcome the VOIP issue, I been using Office At Hand. Plus it lets me spin up a new number I want at anytime and then close it when I’m done.
@@mildsoup8978 You can start with the cost of buying an additional cell phone number and whatever phone that the company demanding 2FA is requiring. If they don't want to pay, say no. If they insist that 2FA must be used and must use your cell phone, tell them that they may not use your cell phone and walk away. If they demand a USB stick, tell them to pay for it. It is the responsibility of the companies demanding security schemes to pay for and provide the items required. They assume that everyone owns a smartphone that is never used by anyone else, always has the same phone number, and is always attached to the owner, and so they believe that they can use the phones for their own purposes. I recently turned away a retailer that insisted that I must "get the app" to claim rewards points. No! They want your phone number and they want your identity associated with that number. Stop using your cell phone number as a form of identification!
I probably need this but it sounds insanely complicated. I am totally overwhelmed!
Me too
Same here
Yep
Rob Braxman is a good resource on internet privacy on YT and Rumble
Yeah, this is ridicules! You all want me to use Google for my phone!!!! This makes NO sense!
REEEEEEEEEEEEALLY gonna need that video on how to trick companies into thinking VoIP numbers are carrier numbers.
Yeah. Same here
I looked through her channel and couldn't find the video : (
we simply can't
You get a prepaid number card then port it over to voip and it will appear as a quality number
@@oeovelour7515 Won't the detection of which "carrier" it's with eventually be updated?
Any number other then a regular cellphone number issued by a carrier isn't accepted by many companies including banks. They have systems in place that instantly tell them when a virtual number is being used. Google voice used to be the defacto number but even that isn't being accepted in many places.
I did the opposite. Gave the banks the new real number and gave everyone else the VoIP number.
I had to prove myself to the US government and they refused to accept any VoIP, just a cell number. One bank I told them I only had land line and that worked.
There's a guy in the UK that leveraged this with his electric company whom was known to sell personal phone numbers. He purchased a brand new phone with a new phone number and used it only for his electric company.
He then took the electric company to court. Whenever he has a telemarketer it pays big bucks to keep them on the line. XD
This sounds like a great business model tbh. Just suing the shit out of every company that tries to mess with its user's data.
How is this even plausible? There is just randomly dialing numbers until you get a hit, electric company could just say it must have been random.
@@grandetaco4416 Looks like I posted in error. He's using a premium rate phone number for when he calls the utility companies.
Look up Lee Beaumont. When the spammers companies call in he makes about 10 pence per call. Apparently in 2015 he had made about £2000.
It’s a shame Google Voice only works in the US (for this purpose). They’re the cheapest because there is no ongoing monthly cost to keep the number active, and they have excellent security options unlike the smaller VoIP providers (who all seem oriented towards offering commercial solutions to businesses, not privacy-conscious individuals looking to hide their location from cell towers).
Change your cellphone number often, I often give out OLD DEAD numbers and give a DOB that is off by 2 days....
Protecting yourself is key....
I just noticed the other day that d.o.b. was the first question they asked during an interaction.
@@Rancanfishthat's why I use a incorrect number and it's off by 2 days....
Great working with you, Naomi! Your content is gold. Keep up the incredible effort to educate everyone about data privacy!
Thanks for creating great privacy products that help us all reclaim our digital lives!
Hi, I can only see Canadian or American options on your website. Do you do Untied Kingdom numbers please?
@@Dewsta26 MySudo is currently available in 7 countries with the ability to select a US, CAN, or UK phone number.
@@anonyome Go to your site. Click the hamburger menu. Click plans. Then it gives me two options- Canada or US.
MYSudo App looks great. Unfortunately the subscription cost is about 2.5 times higher than the US here in the UK so will be giving it a miss.
It nice to see companies like this being started by passionate people.
Still keep an unopened burner phone in the glove box, just in case. 😉 Maybe 20 people have my real number and the rest get the VOIP. 🤜🤛 Thanks for the tips as always Naomi.
Thanks for your support 💛💛
Great video! Waiting for the follow up on how to use VoIP with places that refuse VoIP numbers.
I’m in Australia and have multiple SIMs with different providers that are not necessarily in my own name. Some providers don’t require you to provide identity at sign up too. I use one number for banking, another one for shipping, personal, have several data SIMs sharing from one account. I only make/receive FaceTime Audio Calls and am generally on WiFi Calling, rarely rely on Cell Tower
But isn't it really sad that we the consumers have to tip toe around scammers and marketing to gain privacy? This is the real issue. Alias emails, alias phone numbers etc is getting really complicated just for sidetracking others that invade our privacy and interfere with their constant marketing. Just leave me alone!
how do you do that so conveniently
I hope kids learn this stuff! Realistically though, many public schools don't even have private server/school ran email accounts for their students, and kids as young as 6 already have gmail accounts collecting data on them... I highly appreciate your videos, they are extremely relevant to modern times and even the future! (side note, Amish life is looking better every day...)
In the UK email clients for schools are managed by the district council, all schools in a district share the same domain. Which I'm guessing is managed regional government. So this isn't a problem I guess.
That is scary. I only started using email 📧 when I was 14 years old and I’m now 40 going on 41 years old
I agree. Be careful who you give your info to.
I was cyberstalked for months on end with spoofed texts and calls raining down on me. I filed a restraining order and that didn't stop them and they never showed up to court. I filed a violation of the injunction so I hope that does the trick.
Did you know who was cyberstalking you? Couldn’t you you just blocked the number or numbers, I block like 20 number everyday day , and when I looked out them most of them are voip numbers, so criminals can use that tool too , to be untraceable
@Mecambrea77 Yes, I knew the stalker and once confronted, they ran away like a coward.
They suffer from drug addiction, and so I believe they were getting high and sending spoofed messages to me, not really knowing what they were doing.
I reached his parents and let them know their son needed help.
I also reached his job and he quit the job and disappeared.
The stalking and harassment stopped.
Most stalkers are cowards, and once they are confronted, they usually stop.
Blocking doesn't work when they use random spoofed numbers which sucks. That is why I say to never give your real number to anyone unless you know them well.
I am going through the same thing. Someone knew my wife's upcoming flight time and filed a false police report on us using it to gain credibility. Gone are the days of trusting others.
Great video.
Looking forward to how to make a VoIP number work with apps/businesses who insist on a cell number and won't allow VoIP numbers.
I'm honestly waiting to go the VOIP route until I find the most viable solution to companies not accepting VOIP numbers. Paying for multiple phone lines is way to expensive of an option.
Right!
I just give them my old landline number. I'm not expecting a call from them anyway.
Really appreciate the effort that goes into these videos.
Even as a cyber security pro, I learn something new with every episode.
Thanks Naomi from a happy subscriber.
I really appreciate that!
@@NaomiBrockwellTV
I'm sorry to bother you but im hoping ok to ask a few Q's? I have been watching your videos as a recent new sub and they are excellent.
Admittedly a lot is going over my head.
I'm possibly getting a new cell. Don't want to say much here.
Is there a possibility to email you, please ?
Again sorry I'm very leary of the constantly evolving scams. I'm taking your advice and not saying too much in comments now. Thx if your respond 🙏
Would you be open to provide 1:1 guidance on how to make your phone more private. There are few things I would like to discuss
I appreciate the effort in making this video. Your recommendations make sense. But...OMG, procuring multiple VOIP Numbers and sandboxing is quite a heavy lift for most of us Normies.
yeah this video was a lot more complicated for people than anticipated! I might have to take a few steps back and do some videos on the basics first!
Naomi’s uploads = happiness in our ♥️
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Thanks Naomi! Another awesome video! Does this privacy rabbit hole even have a bottom!? It impossible to "unsee" all of this. Maybe it's time to be Amish?
one step at a time! Every little change you manage to implement does wonders to helping you protect your privacy, don't feel overwhelmed :)
Funny. An Amish guy did some work at my house and he had a cell phone in his truck. He said that his order can use them for business but they must not be in the house and black was preferred color.
Problem is Google as a VoIP provider has been mostly discontinued (Certainly the Google Hangouts Dialer and indeed Google Hangouts has been discontinued in favour of video connections) which brings the question of which VoIP service will continue to be provided over the long term. Yes, we need to separate out our security identification use from normal casual use and this is true for voice phone lines, SMS text messages and for email. I don't think we'll ever completely untangle ourself unless we start really early in life, but we do need to start rolling everything over. Now you usually only get one free phone number per VoIP company and you loose it if you don't use it regularly, sometimes you can subscribe to some service which will keep it live at a cost, additional numbers will of course require subscriptions, you can easily loose track of the phone numbers and wind up with quite a subscription list.
I still remember when businesses would only deal with land line numbers and refuse cell numbers, now it's cell numbers that they want...
They were trying to switch from Google Voice to Hangouts, but I think no one liked it and it was confusing. Now they're discontinuing Hangouts & supporting Voice again. So they're back to were they started which is Google Voice which always worked well and so far is getting better.
@@yourfriendcaspian Seems that Google Voice just says not supported in your country. It did turned out to be installed on all my devices though for some reason, probably because I used to use it, then the hangouts dialer. However, it appears Google Voice just doesn't have the support it once did. Real shame too, there were times when I didn't have my smart phone with a Sim with me, but did have one of my older phones and hence could still dial out through Google Voice and later Hangouts dialer.
Before cell phones we used to always change our phone numbers whenever needed. You just notified people and that was that.
what?? I'm old enough to remember before cell phones (54yr) and I don't recall anyone changing their phone #. I still know my dad's home phone from the 80's till this day!! Now I did have an uncle who's # change a lot... but he had a "job" that paid no taxes
@@kevcoder You would call your phone company and tell them you need/want to change your number. They would charge a fee. They would ask if you want it listed or unlisted. Unlisted would be an extra fee. Yes you could change your number
@@kevcoder They would also ask if you wanted your calls forwarded, and if you wanted a message telling callers your new number.
@@kevcoder I don't know what your uncle's job would have had to do with it, the phone company would still be in charge of changing the number.
Your number would change if you moved to a new area code, etc. Landline numbers
With so many more numbers now out there, you can't even keep the same number moving within the same city. So irritating if you wanted to keep the same number
The essential followup video is advising how to spoof companies that a VOIP is CELL- this is critical info- Banks are very sophisticated and can scour Cell databases at thier disposal. which are updated daily.
Easy. Buy a sim card, port the number to VoIP. Those databases are not all that accurate and most carriers don't send updates on number porting.
Ahhh this all sounded so good. Until I realised the best services are not available in Australia. :(
Your content is awesome, would be even more awesome if you made a playlist for seniors, as I can get my parents to watch these videos :) tech them up and keep their neurons firing at the same time as they working something new.
I am overwhelmed as someone started stalking my wife and I and put in false police reports somehow knowing info about her upcoming flight, so now begins the process of having to change everything in our lives to not let this happen again. This is one of the steps involved, and it's exhausting.
Some places require non-VOIP numbers. Like Google voice, they check if the number is tied to a SIM and US carrier or not. Would be nice to get a workaround for these sort of checks. Looking forward to your follow up vid on this!
This is the blocker. I DID port my cell to Twilio years ago, then found out pretty quickly all the services that didn't support a "non-approved carrier" number. Ended up porting my number back to my MAGA supporting carrier :p
@@jimbosander awwwww poor IiberaI so sad 2024 🇺🇸
@@maskettaman1488 keep trolling with your "enriched life"
Cheapest number I've found in US is $5/month with $3 for getting the sim. Only 500 mins/500 texts, but that's more than enough if you're just using it for signing up to websites.
Please share 😊 would like know the company
That's an overwhelming wealth of info. So much so that it freezed into doing nothing at all. Is there a simpler, get-started version for dummies?
We are also aware that in this digital age, our personal info is open to the malicious whims of opportunistic deviants. That said, it feels we require an engineering degree to traverse this tech-savvy terrain.
This is a really good process, and I have been using a similar method for several years. BUT, some of these companies are getting wise to this and do allow the use of a VOIP number in their registration process. In which case, you're back to square one. OpenAI is one of those services. It will not accept my VOIP number so....there ya go. One one thing I DON'T want is to give an AI any more of my information than absolutely necessary.
Imagine my shock when the order I placed on Amazon turned out to be from a dropshipper - the parcel arrived directly from China, with my cell number printed right there on the label, for anyone to see. Good times.
Been applying to new jobs for a career change, and exclusively use the house landline, and a burner phone number forwarding service.
all those services will be tied to your landline, which isn't ideal for privacy.
I must use a landline, because there is no mobile phone signal where I live.
@@cdl0 I think landline is better securiy wise than a mobile phone. security over privacy i say
@@t83ndnsk3k You may be right. We are still on a landline here with only 5 Mb/s ADSL internet. The latest application to install a mast was refused again, owing to it being a protected conservation area. There is also no terrestrial TV or VHF radio (hills block the signals) and satellite dishes are forbidden.
I follow you with interest from Romania! For everything you post,I want to thank you!
I really appreciate that!
REALLY interested in how to use VOIP numbers for services that typically disallow VOIP numbers! Thanks.
A prepaid cellphone.
@@techlake2252 But prepaid cell number is not VOIP.
@@PatrixMedia you buy a prepaid number, activate it (?), then port it to google voice (or other). kind of a headache.
@@1MinuteFlipDoc I'm not sure if you can port prepaid number
@@marekryciak if you had the money, you could just buy a pre-paid phone for every account that does not take a voip
Great break down but VOIP numbers aren't useable for all website and services.
As much as I'm glad to see the attention to this issue, its out of date by like 3/years. Primary companies already wised up and no longer accept VoIP numbers for verification. This video is vastly out of date. Try to update it and tell is ways to you VoIP that looks and acts like a sim card. 😊
Can you point me to another solution?
@@recoveringsoul755 dont think there is. just keep your accounts secure and know you did all you could in the way of privacy. there is only so much you can do before you are straight up giving fully fake informaiton
Really appreciate this information! Also EXTREMELY appreciate the video was produced without any annoying background "musical" track which can interfere with vocals and make understanding more difficult.
I always give a wrong phone number for online purchases.
I've also heard the "multiple VoIP strategy" recommended for women to use in dating apps. If anyone gets weird, you can burn the number.
Great to hear this is an option. I've been doing this for a while with virtual cards and encrypted email (where I only use the aliases). But I didn't know it could be done with phone numbers.
Thanks for the video! I appreciate all the work you put into help others to be more private and safe in the digital world
Very cool topic. I've long wanted a phone number solution like what I have implemented for email addresses, but it's a much tougher problem. Your video goes some way toward addressing my concerns. Still seems cumbersome, but it's good to know this is available.
I think I'm doing most of this already, but thanks for confirming. I was unsure about airplane mode. Virtual credit car is awesome, since every site traps them...then they get hacked, with simple 'sorry' email. I use my physical card less and less since they track also. Finally, what about burner phones?
This is great info. I don't understand it all but I will keep plugging away until it all makes sense.
Now that name, address and SSN are basically public due to the NPD breach, the advice in this video is more important than ever to do.
best thing that could happen is someone literally destroys the internet. if the interenet does not exist, criminals must go back to older methods to get information, making it easier for us to control that information
Gracias Naomi!
Really appreciate the time and effort on the videos, truly help me to understand and take different approach in many aspects!
Keep it up!
MySudo requires using their smartphone app. A computer & browser can't be used, not even to signup (or generate keys in this case). The only recovery option after a dead/lost phone is purchasing a similar device from the same vendor. You have the same responsibility to manage keys like cryptocurrency but few options. It's just not ready yet.
Love that you are explaining, with knowledge, solutions I awkwardly & ineptly stumble towards as I attempt to put out spitfires. And thank God that scarily naive " if you haven't done anything wrong .." chant is being seen for the crim friendly idiocy it always was.
Love this woman.. she’s doing Gods work. Heart of diamond 💎
I love her Classic 90's from hair to Dressing ♥️
Nice. The more important the privacy the more solutions are possible. Can I buy an entirely new phone that would allow me to have a switch on it that would disconnect the antenna(s) on the phone? Can you do a show showcasing phones that could be directly set to privacy, at times called the dumbed down or weekend phones?
Unfortunately scammers also exploit internet based numbers giving them the ability to constantly change or use other people's numbers.
Someone stole my cell number last year. One day my phone just stopped working. I used a coworkers phone and called my provider. They told me I called and switch my number to an iPhone in Florida. Within an hour they tried to access my bank accounts, AMAZON accounts...basically anything tied to my number. I had to close the account and get a new number. Anything that used a 2 step authentication with my phone they tried to get into. It was a nightmare.
Where is the video in how to mask VIOP so it can be used for banking verification?
Best buy does not allow buying a sim without using some form of officially connected ID. You could use your best buy card, which is connected to your real name and official IDs. Great video!
That’s not true in the USA, you don’t need any ID to buy a prepaid sim
then don't go to best buy! there's target, walmart, fred meyer, dollar general, must i go on?
search for an issue , Brockwell has already covered it last week 💪🏽🔥
I agree with the previous comment 👍 This post and channel are GOLD 💛
Great video. I've been using Google Voice for years now and works great. As you mentioned some companies like PayPal for example will NOT take VIOP numbers. And would really like to know how to get around this.
Unfortunately several sites are blocking the use of VOIP numbers. I would venture a guess that it is because they can't track me, and build a profile on me.
Love these videos, this is the way to bring opsec to the masses!
At 17:00 you mention "all my devices" (implying at least three) doesn't that mean you are also already using multiple SIM cell numbers which (especially if serviced by different providers) should get you some way along to relief of this stated problem.
So glad you did this video because Discord require you to store a mobile number if they detect you are using a VPN. They also detect VOIP numbers. So looking forward to your next video on that one.
Discord is literally why I ended up here
eBay is another one that is trying to force users to provide non-voip numbers
@@RecklessFables - Forgive a stupid question, but what is 'Discord'?
@@frostyfrances4700 It’s like Skype but more gamer-oriented
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It is app on your cellphone, an app or website on your computer.
It also has 100's or more different chatrooms & topics. For ecample there is a section where there are stock market, cooking,.... chatrooms,...
If you sign up to Discord for free you can start a chatroom (I forget the name so I call it a chatroom). You can read & make comnents, like on Twitter, Instagram, here on TH-cam kind of.
I've been using a magic jack for about 16 years. The magic jack number is the only number I give out, when necessary, there are a few exceptions such as family, friends, doctors, etc.
Originally the cost was $19.00 per year but now it's gone up to $39.00 per year and well worth it.
i use it as well. IT is VOIP however. You get one phone number and then they charge you $10. to change it if you want to. I will look into the other VOIP options described in this video; I like the quantity of numbers available. Not keen on porting my cell number though.
I have been using a Magic Jsck VoIP phone for well over a decade. Cheap and works well. Recently I was forced to get a Smart phone. A week later, I was hacked and had my IDENTITY STOLEN, which led to my bank accounts robbed through E-Transfer Request Money, which I had never used. Absolute horror. More than $12,000 stolen. It would never have happened if I had not got the darn Smart phone.
How do we do this in Australia and other countries, where getting VOIP numbers onto our phones is not particularly easy or cheap.
Google Voice, useful though it is, is only functionally available in the USA.
We need alternatives and choices to be able to enact this - a guide would be fab.
Absolutely, either a great idea for a business opportunity in Australia if that market has not yet been served, or a good opportunity for regulatory reform if these businesses are not allowed!
I love these videos! Been using VOIP for awhile but never thought of changing my main number. Love it
I simply refuse to give most of them a real number, email, or address if I give them anything at all. I also use multiple web browsers on my phone and home computer so that it's harder for them to cross reference. Also I refuse most apps for a banks, stores etc. Lastly, I restrict access for app permissions on my phone. I simply make it much harder for them to gather information.
how do you get around an address
so how long until we run out of phone numbers? there are only 1 million per area code in North America. We are skating on thin ice for IPv4 addresses.
Hi Naomi, this is great content for someone like me, starting to take some control over the digital profiling of my private life. I'm not sure whether you were planning to make a sequel to this explaining further. But, if you are, please consider the following questions that I would like answers for:
a. Once multiple digital identities are created to various aspects, how am I going to call those various service providers? Am I going to use the new VoIP numbers via app(s) on the phone? or use one VOIP to call all various parties?
b. When we have multiple VoIP recording messages, directing the transcripts to assigned email addresses and forwarding all those emails funnelling to my one private email address, would those service provide link everything to one profile?
c. are there any other services similar to SUDO around the world, as I can not use SUDO in Europe, Asia, Australia and New Zealand...?
Thank you...
Great questions, there will be a follow up!
@@NaomiBrockwellTV Would like to see a follow up
@@NaomiBrockwellTV Yo! Thanks for your massive research and hardwork! Definitely eagerly awaiting a follow up for Twilo / Telnyx and other concepts you've hinted at but this was a great start!.
I have just binge-watched three excellent videos, about How Your WiFi Is Betraying You, How Security Keys work (2FA explained) and this one, Getting MULTIPLE PRIVATE Phone Numbers . Great stuff, Well done! thank you for these excallent videos and fot the other ones I am going to watch.
With regartds to this video, I would have loved so see an idea of costs for receiving calls and making outbound calls via VOIP, as I guess unlimited VOIP calls are not included . Perhaps it is something I can ask the VOIP company about .
With mysudo it's unlimited messages and calls at no extra cost
You're not only a beautiful woman. You're also intelligent resourceful and informative. Keep up the great work. It's truly appreciated and needed.
I helped an elderly man create an email for a discount he requested. He never used it and I only signed one company to the phone. When he came to the office there were hundreds of emails. The company was car insurance and the email was outlook.
I thought only people in the US could request a Google Voice number? I don't think this is available in the UK
Just looked into it, and Google Voice is not available in Canada yet. Regarding Canadian alternatives, as of October 2024, most VOIP services (1) assumed I was looking for VOIP for my 'business', not personal use, and (2) their fees were listed as $5.99 per month and per number, to $9.95/mo per number. Still works out better, maybe, but a bit of a piss off after being told it would likely be free or a dollar a month.
Thanks for the info! It's certainly something to think about. My current solution is somewhere in between.
When asked for a phone number, I'll usually give my home number, which is VoIP-based through a custom Asterisk instance, where I can put all kinds of filtering to fight spam calls. When the time comes that I no longer have a real home phone, I can keep doing that, but the Asterisk instance will be a voicemail server that can provide a fake ringtone if desired. That server is actually already set up... I use it as a backup for my home system, in case my home internet is down.
The result is that I get a ton of spam calls to my home number, most of which can be filtered so the phone never rings, and the cell phone is quiet.
16:03 you said we would go over that in another video how to trick companies that refuse to allow voip to use it. have you released that video yet and which one?
Not released yet, coming next year
Came to the comments for this info. Thanks!! I’m looking forward to it!
If you just ditch your old number and get a mint prepaid card instead just for use with dats, youre still going to be tracked, because the imsi is already associated with you and the gps patterns from the profile thats already been built. Itll be a different number, but youre still already associated with the phone, and google easily puts the profile together...
there's different threat models, that's the criminal one, this vid is the spam & hijacking one
Naimi, I found you through David Bombal and thank god you came for that podcast.
We know how much time and effort is required to make QUALITY videos like this.
Thank you so much Naomi.
We all love you ❤
Thanks so much! 🙏
MySudo in the UK is £30 per month for nine numbers. Considerably more than claimed in this video (this vid is 2 years old but still). And if you sign up and try to get phone numbers, it asks you for your full name and address, which I think is a UK law thing, but kind of defeats the purpose.
If your credit is frozen, it would be pretty hard for someone to open a mortgage in your name.
Very true
At the bank your cell phone has become your identity card once a bank officer visually sees you answer you answer your cell phone when he/she calls your phone number and has verified in person that you answered that cell phone number. Same with the electronic boarding pass you downloaded and stored in your phone. No more paper as your start the boarding process.The gate agent watches you wave your phone over the scanner at the gate and your logged in to the system and clear to board. .
I try not to give my cell number out to many many venues, but some force you into having to give a number in order to use the service or you cant use it. And they are getting worse as time goes on. We are at the mercy of technology.
then you just dont use the service. that simple. you have to learn to live without
Here in Colombia South America even if you buy cash a new sim card all carriers force you to register the new unknown sim card. We are screwed.
NB, thank you for this content. It's useful. We are not worthy.
I'm really glad it's useful!
Why are you so amazing miss Naomi? And yet another very useful video!!!
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Hey Naomi, does that apply to phones in OTHER countries, as well?
All the basic concepts of using VoIP vs cell phones apply regardless of where you are, but you'll have to see which services are available in your specific country
@@NaomiBrockwellTV Hmm, OK
I rarely give mine out. Actually I have a second number I use separate to my regular number.
Ladies only! Do not give your base cell number to new guys you are dating get a burner or Google voice you will not regret it. They should never have direct access to you anyway.
4:20 Not true! You can’t sign up for ChatGPT, Twitch, or Discord with VoIP numbers - you get an error message that recognizes it’s a VoIP.
The constant want of your number has made EVERYWHERE not accessible to deaf or mute people. I have to pay for a number that I only use to write down. Though google voice allows me to just change phone numbers on phone any time I have to use phone once. Change phone then update in google. Though for me, it was a pain getting google numbers. Google just shuts them down over time if you don't have a phone number associated with the account. So I been using a 3CX PBX.
Thank you Naomi I love your content and I have a clarification question(s) I'm hoping could be answered:
Supposing I'm now armed with a prepaid SIM (private number) and nine available VoIP #'s on my app, how do the voip #'s connect and make calls and send texts on the go? With 5G SIM data right? Are the SIM and VoIPs really not associated even though I'm using SIM data to make VoIP calls and texts?
I hope these questions are clear and not confusing
Nope they’re not linked. A cell number is associated directly with your sim. A voip number isnt associated with your Sim. And you can use a vpn to mask your internet usage.
At the end sometimes voip numbers won’t allow you to get certain messages for 2fa
*Thank you!*
you should do a new update to this for 2024/2025, also would be nice if you mention whether the service is available for non-Americans
I miss your videos which are also covert. As for surveillance and criminals, it’s getting very difficult to tell the “good guys”, from the “bad guys”, because they both commit criminal acts. Question: do they continue surveillance on you after death? Most likely.
If privacy for the average person is now a "criminal act", then the bad guys are the ones who made that regulation ;)
@@NaomiBrockwellTV thanks, I wasn’t referring to citizens privacy which they also abuse with their illegal surveillance practices, but you can add that to their list. For example, phony kidnapping plots, inciting riots, protecting their paid child predators, etc. the list is long, and thought I’m referring to a specific fed agency, more fed and state agencies are involved. Look forward to your next video, and I enjoy your short ones with your twin and possible triplet video in the works?
@@jr4062 haha lots of twin and triplet videos to come ;)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This had me cracking. However, considering how evil the world is, it's not impossible to think of really. Weird creeps that hope to get info on the after life might actually do that.
One question I'd have is if you can keep a data plan active on a sim without a phone number linked to it. Some companies have privacy respecting service providing (the most recent one I've seen is Purism's AWEsim) with unlimited data, so being able to get a sim without a cell phone number attached, linking the number that would be attached to a VOIP, then using that infinite data sim on your phone would be a pretty killer combination. (especially since it means you could leave your phone's wifi turned off, which is always good since it prevents all the baggage that comes with like wifi probing)
Thank you, Naomi. Great job. I needed this info. My mobile cell phone number was stolen and put on Dark Web, according to McAfee. I have a question. Is there any organization, like Google Voice, who do number porting in Australia?
I had the same question
@@cdm297 Thank you, for your message. I just found out that "mySudo" is available in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea, USA, Canada, UK for IOS 14, and IOS 15. I'm going to try it.
@@jamespaul3325 thanks mate, I will be trying that too
I got a private number that I only ever used for my ISP. Immediate got spammed. My number I used for years gets nearly 0 spam other than my cell provider.
It gets worse, Naomi. If I have your private number in my Android Google contact list, any time you install software like a spam blocker, that software collects every number in your contact list. Including the ones that WERE supposed to stay private.
And in turn, if my phone is set to DO NOT DISTURB unless the contact is on your list. So you'll miss important calls.
No way to win without enforcement.
MySudo is only available to USA residents