Table Tennis "Amateur" Level in China (Wow)

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  • This is the "amateur level" in China. They play very well! Wow! Chinese peoples love this sport so much.
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  • @pingsunday
    @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Many viewers said that "This level is OK, I can beat them easily". I want to clarify that, they are just journalist, amateur players. Yes, you can beat them if you play competition in a table tennis club, but if you take some journalists in other countries and ask them to play like that? And If you film yourself playing, and compare to these players, you can see that these shots are much faster.

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      EmRat, these guys have probably all had formal training and played with good players. I'm pretty sure we can find you thousands more journalists in China who can't even hit the ball.

    • @ejaythegreat7
      @ejaythegreat7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's all because table tennis is popular in chinese journalists society in your country, that's about it. not so much impressive. I am sure Korean journalists would have high level of golf game, and also it is because golf is so popular in my country. SO HYPE!

    • @deide9138
      @deide9138 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Take german journalists and let them play football :D Same thing, different view:)

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hahaha! It's true!

    • @courtesywater6hi992
      @courtesywater6hi992 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know that, to me they don't play fast at all they actually play quite slow and poorly

  • @artemmakohon212
    @artemmakohon212 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I remember when I recorded my game and watched it for the first time. I was really surprised that everything is much slower on video. These guys are very good for an amateur level

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes, totally right. Mee too. I think that my shot are super fast. In my head that, it's about 80% the power of Ma Long. But then I filmed myself playing. I said "Wtf, this guy is so noob, lack of footwork. No coordination. The shot is very slow, not spin". (Lol, so film yourself playing before judging the level of another player) (or the camera is your best coach if you want to improve).

  • @derhenri2002
    @derhenri2002 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    It's not such a HUGE difference if you consider that there's a similar kind of skill level in the lower leagues here in Germany.

    • @maddin9880
      @maddin9880 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      derhenri2002 ja sieht aus wie bei uns oberliga oder regionalliga

    • @KaiserAndFriends
      @KaiserAndFriends 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ne eher kreisliga

    • @teddanville6996
      @teddanville6996 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah yeah, anyone who think Germany can match China in any aspect of table tennis is a mad man.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don't think these players play in a league in China. They are just amateur, play for fun. In a league, they are much better.

    • @ajtatosmano2
      @ajtatosmano2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They play in a league. Many of these are team mates. I think you misunderstood the meaning of the word 'league'.
      There are amateur leagues, local leagues and where the players play for fun (but they still practice, like these guys in the video) and there are leagues supervised by the national associations. These might be low level too, where the players still play for fun, but in higher leagues the players get paid. So playing in league has nothing to do with the playing level.

  • @leremygan
    @leremygan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    People who have never see themselves in a video will always thought that they play like Ma Long. Trust me, record yourself, and you can see how lousy you are in video.

    • @fakermaker4187
      @fakermaker4187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very accurate.

    • @axercfarena3643
      @axercfarena3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I play the same as ma long, and np I'm not recording myself. Lol

  • @michaellee4637
    @michaellee4637 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In fact, there are big gap between amature and professional in Pingpong player in China. In China, the children chosen to be a Pingpong player since they are 4 or 5. If they were chosen, they would go to professional school for Pingpong. They will have 6-8 hours training every day. And, they will have 3-4 hours for normal learning. For Amature, most of them play Pingpong after graduate.

  • @nuridemir5613
    @nuridemir5613 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think they are very good level as a journalist....thank you emrathich We love watching your videos

  • @jorgeluisvillamizarsuarez510
    @jorgeluisvillamizarsuarez510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:56 WTF!!

  • @rainerabt7911
    @rainerabt7911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If they realy dont play in a club, than it realy is impressive.

  • @razzengan
    @razzengan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Wow the point at 3:54

    • @Daud72
      @Daud72 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Julien Ho one of my friend trolled me with that

    • @kanchello
      @kanchello 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snake shot

  • @Phorkyas31415
    @Phorkyas31415 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like many of your videos and appreciate the openness with which you share. Kudos for that!
    Well, I have been pondering with this Asian vs. Europe "philosophy" thing and I suspect it's kind of a false dichotomy. I saw a similar thing in Go, that I studied a bit before I switched back to my old passion table tennis. So there were people comparing Asian vs. European warfare and philosophy just from contrasting chess (medieval type tactics; one front, one objective) and Go (Sun Tzu, Guerilla tactics, multiple fights at once) and, you know, it stroke me as deep some time, but then a Chinese friend, who by the way doesn't even really play Go or table tennis, said it's all bollocks. Maybe he's too much Europeanized already, but maybe he has a point there.
    On another note, it suprises me, you take using chinese rubber as a proof of quality. On some German channel a really high level amateur tried them out and observed many things very much in line with what you put out - and ultimately decided it was better to stick to European rubbers, because in amateur game there are too few strokes in the high tempo regime where the rubber would be beneficial.
    (Here some German amateurs for comparison? th-cam.com/video/XzdkhcCHacs/w-d-xo.html )

  • @SK-qu4wo
    @SK-qu4wo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playing table tennis recreationally and competing in a few local tournaments over the last 6 years, I have met table tennis players of many different nationalities. That being said, a lot of Chinese and Asian people in general play table tennis, but in my experience, the best amateur table tennis players I've ever seen are from former Soviet countries and Cuba. No lie.

    • @angler-cs
      @angler-cs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glacius if the amateur level is that good.whet about the international level, it should be higher shouldn't it? So why we just see Chinese player on top?

  • @alexeykan7455
    @alexeykan7455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the 周庄/Zhou Zhuang club located at the compound of the same name nearby Shilihe subway station, I play there at least three times a week. They conduct amateur tournaments every month gathering people from other clubs. I'd say the lever of tournaments' participants is higher than that of club members in average, but the last one is still higher than mine albeit I've been attending classes at 炎上 tt school for 1,5 years, the school belongs to a former 2 times world champion, Beijing's female team head coach Guo Yan. Not all of those players use hurricane-like rubbers btw

  • @marcosmusixpcmusicam
    @marcosmusixpcmusicam 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, very interesting, but does they use hard rubbers for BH too? Or just DHS hurricane 3 for FH and Tenergy 05 for BH?

  • @ArchOfficial
    @ArchOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn't exactly call this the average level in China. You can find players like this in Europe, too. Don't try to fool yourself that the majority of players in China play like this.

  • @Beeray11
    @Beeray11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can find higher level amateurs like this in any country, as all the people who took it too seriously mentioned. The point is that, higher level amateurs are much more commonplace in China than anywhere else.

  • @UnseenSpirit
    @UnseenSpirit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People should definitely film games that they play. It looks so much slower than how we imagine it.
    In fact the people who say they can beat these guys, please upload videos and tell us to watch your games

  • @kdgr
    @kdgr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video!

  • @Fakeslimshady
    @Fakeslimshady 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i cant even find one guy who can serve in my company

  • @hernandezbasiliogustavo9711
    @hernandezbasiliogustavo9711 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG this amateur le el is so high compared with my country, the chinese are so incredible

  • @tantousan327
    @tantousan327 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi coach, how about ping sunday "footwork pattern" , i'm waiting for part 2.....

  • @antonyang7273
    @antonyang7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in my country, this should be a pro-club level. Greetings from indonesia

    • @tenismejatv8944
      @tenismejatv8944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not even close, pro level in Indonesia will match with city level players in China, which I believe these journalists is not in that level

  • @reecetowe6520
    @reecetowe6520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow yesterday I think I am an advanced player but this has just opened my eyes

  • @sambailey9949
    @sambailey9949 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was in Shanghai for 4 years and this level shown is slightly better than average but certainly not strong, the average standard in China is quite poor, most people play for fun or as exercise. But the top level is much much higher. Basically the only good players I could find were coaches or ex professionals, anyone else is in university or the professional clubs.

  • @TRANhanoi
    @TRANhanoi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You may have known that, just like in Vietnam, there is some pro players who have short term contract with companies and compete on their behalf. Jounalist, banker or even police competitions are full of near-pro players. It is part of company promotion too

  • @washnery
    @washnery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brazil is soccer land, China is table tennis land!

  • @tomaspomej1162
    @tomaspomej1162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice vid ..your commentary sounds slightly cocky but I know what you mean ....LOL..... we train in England and this level would be considered very good club level (in our area) . So I guess the point is if we were to have a competition for local journalists we would probably be lucky to have ten players in the tournament and we would probably be finishing the session with around the table game :) chocolate medals for the winners and cup of tea for everyone :)

  • @user-cp3ju2fz4z
    @user-cp3ju2fz4z 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL the woman so cute, she was soo smiling when the high ball comes in, she was thinking for sure waa such nice Chance to smash it to heaven and then shocked for a sec. and goes like wooohoooow running behind the ball. And the man so cool just walking away without showing emotions.
    And the very last men one was for sure the boss, look at the points, 5-5, 10-10 - because you can not beat the boss in a game would be respectless or not ?

  • @oxidhdazoth5214
    @oxidhdazoth5214 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In xhich division you think these players would be in France? R3-R1?

    • @themega7533
      @themega7533 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oxidh Dazoth R3 I think

  • @GhOnAu
    @GhOnAu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This game is so popular in China, so they have lots of good not so good players, so simple! when you have so many players to choose from, you would have many good players and many not very good players

  • @zeleony05
    @zeleony05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk bout you but I was just blanked out listening to the music xD

  • @sidwdlc6918
    @sidwdlc6918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    now i use 729 geospin fot both side and love it

  • @tuantrongao8335
    @tuantrongao8335 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like pro level of my country :D

  • @gloriemerashtairetimbreza3787
    @gloriemerashtairetimbreza3787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAPEH TOOK ME HERE🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-nf7eg5iz8e
    @user-nf7eg5iz8e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have a similar amateur setup here in the USA. I concede that China has the best players in the world but this nothing exceptional even for amateur level. We have so many players who play recreationally and are better than what I see in this video. Again, I am not saying that our national or league players are better than China but this isn't impressive tbh.

  • @michelrenaud3431
    @michelrenaud3431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I belong to a ping pong club in Montreal, Canada, and the best 8 to 10 players at our club are at least as good if not better than the best players on this clip. One of the man who is 60 used to be ranked #109 in the world, and his 2 brothers are as talented. Just saying.

  • @igorponger1
    @igorponger1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The present Chinese amateurs look pretty good because they all using illegal rubbers (treated with the oil and organic glues).
    Those illegal equipment will cause the ball travelling at frantic speed, and it makes the casual low-class players looking better on the video.

  • @apostleofd119
    @apostleofd119 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i work at factory and some of my co-workers play table tennis for a hobby. and guess what their hit is as good if not better than this guys. and yes i'm not live in China.

  • @table_tennis_fever
    @table_tennis_fever 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    they're okay. they aren't as strong as i expect. I'm a serious amateur player who started playing shakehand for 4 years - and i think my level is same as the TOP of these guys in the video. so they are good amateur players, but not at a surprising level really.... between them and the REAL chinese pros , there's still at least a couple of levels in between

  • @BarbellBinks
    @BarbellBinks 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    if we're judging by amateur players that attend organized amateur player tournaments... I don't really see a difference at all

  • @michaelfarmhand
    @michaelfarmhand 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    No difference between them and amateurs in my country Nigeria. The professional level of course is a different ball game

  • @Tongtong12123
    @Tongtong12123 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If China has a rank for all the players,those players should be over 10000.So it not a big case to beat them.

  • @kayflock4134
    @kayflock4134 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    err.. the old guys in those videos played at least 20+ years. The middle age guy with some form took some lessons. The girl was ex professional that got dropped out early because she doesn't cut it.
    The "play for fun" players skill level in china is actually really low. Been to those open club with no roof playing ping pong on stone table before? those are the "play for fun" players.

    • @DoggyP00
      @DoggyP00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a really disingenuous comparison. The equivalent to " no roof on stone table" would be on the level of random kids in college dorms or a bar if not worse.

  • @ramonbannister9498
    @ramonbannister9498 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet I could beat half the people in that entire tournament.

  • @Alsacecahya
    @Alsacecahya 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats your point by post this video, you wanted to declare that chinese are better than others?

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Frankly, I see better rallies in my club.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's woth noting that, they don't play competition like in a table tennis club. :) (Now, you pick some journalist in another countries, and ask them to play table tennis) :)

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, sure, they're just naturally talented and don't need to play in a club or get training to get good. Just because they're Chinese.

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean these are purely recreational players without any form of expert training and they never compete in tournaments or interclub events?

    • @ArchOfficial
      @ArchOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm being sarcastic. Unless these people have had great players around them all their life and are a bit talented, there is no way they can play like this just picking up the bat once in a while.

    • @ellazhou1406
      @ellazhou1406 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually this is quite normal in China. We learn to play this when were really young. Every school has their own table tennis room and we just play and learn by ourselves...... Not that hard.

  • @Asmobia
    @Asmobia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not big deal, the amateur players in my town play ping pong with beer in their hands, come on, hold mime...

  • @possy92
    @possy92 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they are not completely amateurs bc they have good racket but I can make a highlight video in my club with much better rallies.

  • @catanauan-tabletennis-atbp
    @catanauan-tabletennis-atbp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:57

  • @Maikl2811
    @Maikl2811 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good level.
    But the players play 1-2 time/week..

  • @huifengruxun
    @huifengruxun 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think at least half of the amateur Chinese players I know of, including myself, play better than these guys. And I am sure none of us played in any sort of clubs anywhere. Most of these players look too overweighted to move fast. On the other hand, I think I'm below the average TBH.

  • @johnnikkovillanuevasayson1719
    @johnnikkovillanuevasayson1719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not so different from amateur players in my country

  • @cpt_mrn
    @cpt_mrn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew guys that played like that in college and they were white and black

  • @summerofgeorge1327
    @summerofgeorge1327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Video and 90% of the comments have no point :D

  • @ppm9119
    @ppm9119 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give me a example of a chinese hard rubber.

  • @danielvasquez1917
    @danielvasquez1917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theyre ok

  • @saabaero6211
    @saabaero6211 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In out country that would prob be B or C grade level

  • @orhankaraca5899
    @orhankaraca5899 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are U really a coach or just say it like that

  • @gwclashers5141
    @gwclashers5141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In india many small players play like or better

  • @marina_bio
    @marina_bio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god....... china amateur level is better than Malaysia state player

  • @anshsharma2298
    @anshsharma2298 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in india its the same here at amateur level

  • @InnerSyncMusic
    @InnerSyncMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quote:"But feel the difference!The amateur players in China and in your country...." Lol,have you ever checked how amateur players from other countries play?You say it like the chinese players have this game in their genes...You obviously don't know what you are saying lol.

  • @valentinasriauba1153
    @valentinasriauba1153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They use chinese rubber becasue its cheap lul

    • @user-cx5sx9zz6l
      @user-cx5sx9zz6l 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL western pig salty again,
      DHS is Chinese,DHS is the best brand,
      Chinese use Chinese rubber,fair,just so simple,do u think Chinese can not buy a racket or rubber??LOL,whats ur logic??

    • @GhOnAu
      @GhOnAu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those chines in china use Hurricane but others that live in western countries with higher level of income they use quality rubbers so they do not have to boost it up. Japanese / European rubbers are so expensive considering average wages in China.

    • @user-fk2cc5yp7d
      @user-fk2cc5yp7d 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Kim Il-sung Cheap but good

    • @marvinkwong1480
      @marvinkwong1480 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Valentinas Riauba what’s the point? They’re still the best in the world. Even if you only give them a banana.

  • @user-mw6xl3lo7n
    @user-mw6xl3lo7n 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is hard to admit the gap even the rest of the world knocked the great wall as chip stones. People only want to believe the truth they wish.

  • @vadicodf
    @vadicodf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Obviously this video mean nothing. If I edit my best plays I turn myself Ma Long. In general I like your videos, not in this case.

    • @tt4life74
      @tt4life74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you’re not wrong.

  • @inyourface123
    @inyourface123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach can give ty0ung0s a run for his money in spreading Chinese supremacist propaganda :-D

    • @ajtatosmano2
      @ajtatosmano2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poor EmRat, he is nowhere near to ty0ung0s' racist expressions.

  • @wp9831
    @wp9831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    An amateur level in China is similar to everywhere else. Some of your videos are informative but I am getting tired of this China shit... A lot of European players or Japan players are very, very close to China team A. Even Ma Long or FZD win "only" about 55% points and sometimes they lose and they will be loosing even more often. Let's say four guys who are a little better then rest of the world, not the whole of China:)) And what about the rest? Guys from China team B have pants full of shit when they are to play top European players:)) You said yourself in on of the movies that there is "huge gap" between Team A and Team B. So if there is huge gap and top Europeans are very close to Team A ..then do the math. Take Ma Long/FZD out of the team, out of special training among other top5 and they will loose all the edge. 39 years old Waldner was able to outplay Ma Lin at 2004 Olympics, so stop telling your crap.

    • @potatosalad5355
      @potatosalad5355 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also there are about of 100.000.000 of people who play regulary TT in China....club, province leagues, big company leagues, etc....